Response to Keyboard Events Excessively Slow

[Bill Gallik]

A couple of issues here, although I believe they are likely related.

First, while typing messages in an e-mail I find the key entry feedback to be 
very slow, at times not keeping with my typing lagging by a number of lines. 

Second, when I issue the “Send” command (++D) I find that I 
must issue that command a second time for it to take effect.  

Does anybody have any suggestions?


- Bill from Wisconsin
- "With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another."
- German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)

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skype clianytts for mac and iPhone?

[Trahern Culver]

hi all, thanks to thoughs who helped me with my last post. I don't like the 
native Skype client for Mac or iPhone, so please can any one recommend an 
alternative Skype clients for both Mac and iPhone?? 

your help with this question would be most welcome, kind regards trey.

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[M. Taylor]

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Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Daniela Rubio]

Thanks a lot. Ww, I will certainly enjoy this very much, Thanks and a big 
hug from Barcelona. Definitely, I would like to see them all in its original 
language, it is much better! And This is one of this shows that I can watch 
more than one time surely.

Best regards

Daniela Rubio


> El 7 sept 2017, a las 22:14, Des Delgadillo  
> escribió:
> 
> Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader. 
> https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so please 
>> reply on the list. I have been trying to get into the series but find it 
>> very confusing without narration.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all!
>>> 
>>> Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if 
>>> anybody can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in English and 
>>> audio described. Is it possible somehow?
>>> 
>>> In Spain, we have  the six first seasons audio described in Spanish, but 
>>> not the 7 season.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as this is 
>>> an off topic.
>>> 
>>> Have a great day!
>>> 
>>> Best, Daniela.
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Re: Invitation to live stream presentation to make 3d games accessible

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello Youma!

I would really love to see your talk on accessible 3D games, and I would like 
to share it with other developers. Can you share a link where we can recover 
the video?

Thank you!!


> El 4 sept 2017, a las 23:36, Yuma Decaux  escribió:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> I will be speaking in front of mac and IOS developers here in Brisbane to 
> push the case for baked in accessibility to all games on the app store. 
> 
> I will also show some of the tools and techniques everyone can use so that 
> our community can enjoy sophisticated 3d games such as mmorpgs or big titles 
> such as fallout 4 or witcher and release those tools to push for 
> entertainment that everyone deserves to enjoy. Please follow the link below 
> for more info on the live stream. 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/events/864376623739165??ti=ia 
> 
> 
> I hope that as the event takes place at the center of Brisbane’s tech hub, 
> many developers will take notice and really engage with our community to take 
> us out of the dark ages of audio games into many fun and educational 
> experiences which can greatly benefit us in the very near future.
> 
> Have a great day y’all 
>  Sent  from sputnik7 
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Re: Anybody left in Florida?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi David,
> Yes this is so-posed to be a Apple list which I've been on since 2005 or so.

We just survived  a "major" hurricane here but Our Apple products weathered it 
very nicely! :)
If you  ever need any Avid Pro Tools questions answered   ask away.
I run an Avid Pro Tools HDX system with a 256 track count capacity.
I've been running my Mac based recording studio using Pro Tools since 2001, and 
would be glad to answer any Pro tools  questions you might have.
As for the dogs I think Apple should come up with a "d-PHONEe" for canines 
which might help Train my 107 pound black lab a bit easier! :)
talk soon
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’



On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:25 AM, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

> I thought this was a Mac list, not a list to discuss politics.  I have tried 
> to email the owner and mod of this list re: my concerns and the messages got 
> bounced back as undeliverable. My profession is training problem dogs.  Not a 
> childcare worker who listens to childish sniping.  Once again E T and Chuck 
> are at it again.   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: September 11, 2017 8:13 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
> 
> Well, until someone get ahold of Chuck and actually applies some moderation 
> I’m done, unsubbing account #2.
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:39 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Heh, thanks for the correction. Yes, go figure. Next year's midterm 
>> elections will be interesting, we will see how many of the right lose their 
>> seats.
>> 
>>  Michelle O as President. Hmmm! Fascinating!
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world, 
>> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off  
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 9/10/2017 9:22 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> Hey ET,
>>> That's no man, it's an orange!
>>> But yeah and he still sits in the chair of power,  Go figure,  
>>> Michelle O for president, how would that sound?
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 3:13 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
>>> Simon,
>>>The election was rigged, the man said so himself.
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> On 9/10/2017 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
 Was listening to some news casts out of florida earlier today,
 
 Some guy was kite surfing off the Miami beachs in the storm,
 
 Another guy was wandering down the street with no shirt on and when 
 asked what he was doing he said he was going to tie himself to a post for 
 a science experiement and see out the storm that way, It was alright 
 though he said he had safety measures in place.
 
 I thought we kiwis were friggen crazy,
 
  Not only do you guys elect a crazy orange guy as your leader but 
 you do things like kite surf in a hurricane
 
 Good luck to you all in the south we're all hanging out watching the 
 happenings.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton 
 Miller
 Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 12:27 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
 
 WE in Tallahassee over here.  Store shelves are bare, people are leaving 
 town, and the Red Cross is stocking up and picking up the homeless.  I 
 just grabbed 15 cases of water, 10 cases of gadarade, and some juice boxes 
 for the kids.  It is expected to come threw here later on tonight so we 
 will see what happens.  The place I live is hurricane ready, so we will 
 see what happens.
 Check out my groups
 Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs:
 https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users
 Come learn and teach about apple products!
 https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple
 
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:51 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I lived in West Palm for a long time, talking to my friend this evening 
> who still does on the 18th floor of a condo complex.  Sounds like a place 
> I would not want to be.  We’re pulling for you all up here.  Looks like 
> it’s headed a bit west so may be little bit less damaging than originally 
> thought but that sure seems like a whopper of a storm.  Keep the 

Re: Anybody left in Florida?

[E.T.]

   David, you went to great lengths to push your personal philosophy on 
guide dogs so don't complain now.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/11/2017 8:25 AM, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

I thought this was a Mac list, not a list to discuss politics.  I have tried to 
email the owner and mod of this list re: my concerns and the messages got 
bounced back as undeliverable. My profession is training problem dogs.  Not a 
childcare worker who listens to childish sniping.  Once again E T and Chuck are 
at it again.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: September 11, 2017 8:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?

Well, until someone get ahold of Chuck and actually applies some moderation I’m 
done, unsubbing account #2.


On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:39 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   Heh, thanks for the correction. Yes, go figure. Next year's midterm 
elections will be interesting, we will see how many of the right lose their 
seats.

   Michelle O as President. Hmmm! Fascinating!

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/10/2017 9:22 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hey ET,
  That's no man, it's an orange!
But yeah and he still sits in the chair of power,  Go figure,
Michelle O for president, how would that sound?
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 3:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
Simon,
 The election was rigged, the man said so himself.
  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 9/10/2017 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Was listening to some news casts out of florida earlier today,

Some guy was kite surfing off the Miami beachs in the storm,

Another guy was wandering down the street with no shirt on and when
asked what he was doing he said he was going to tie himself to a post for a 
science experiement and see out the storm that way, It was alright though he 
said he had safety measures in place.

I thought we kiwis were friggen crazy,

   Not only do you guys elect a crazy orange guy as your leader but
you do things like kite surf in a hurricane

Good luck to you all in the south we're all hanging out watching the happenings.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
Miller
Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 12:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?

WE in Tallahassee over here.  Store shelves are bare, people are leaving town, 
and the Red Cross is stocking up and picking up the homeless.  I just grabbed 
15 cases of water, 10 cases of gadarade, and some juice boxes for the kids.  It 
is expected to come threw here later on tonight so we will see what happens.  
The place I live is hurricane ready, so we will see what happens.
Check out my groups
Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs:
https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users
Come learn and teach about apple products!
https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple


On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:51 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

I lived in West Palm for a long time, talking to my friend this evening who 
still does on the 18th floor of a condo complex.  Sounds like a place I would 
not want to be.  We’re pulling for you all up here.  Looks like it’s headed a 
bit west so may be little bit less damaging than originally thought but that 
sure seems like a whopper of a storm.  Keep the powder dry down there.



On Sep 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
wrote:

Hi Terje,

yes were down here in Sunrise fl Broward County AKA Fort
Lauderdale We just had a feeder band go through! and a tornado
watch just went in to effect! :) Shutters locked and loaded!
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:


Hi,

Are there someone from Florida or Georgia on this list? Good luck.

Take care

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RE: Anybody left in Florida?

[David & his pack of dogs]

I thought this was a Mac list, not a list to discuss politics.  I have tried to 
email the owner and mod of this list re: my concerns and the messages got 
bounced back as undeliverable. My profession is training problem dogs.  Not a 
childcare worker who listens to childish sniping.  Once again E T and Chuck are 
at it again.   

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: September 11, 2017 8:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?

Well, until someone get ahold of Chuck and actually applies some moderation I’m 
done, unsubbing account #2.

> On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:39 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Heh, thanks for the correction. Yes, go figure. Next year's midterm 
> elections will be interesting, we will see how many of the right lose their 
> seats.
> 
>   Michelle O as President. Hmmm! Fascinating!
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the world, 
> all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off  
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 9/10/2017 9:22 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Hey ET,
>>  That's no man, it's an orange!
>> But yeah and he still sits in the chair of power,  Go figure,  
>> Michelle O for president, how would that sound?
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 3:13 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
>> Simon,
>> The election was rigged, the man said so himself.
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> On 9/10/2017 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> Was listening to some news casts out of florida earlier today,
>>> 
>>> Some guy was kite surfing off the Miami beachs in the storm,
>>> 
>>> Another guy was wandering down the street with no shirt on and when 
>>> asked what he was doing he said he was going to tie himself to a post for a 
>>> science experiement and see out the storm that way, It was alright though 
>>> he said he had safety measures in place.
>>> 
>>> I thought we kiwis were friggen crazy,
>>> 
>>>   Not only do you guys elect a crazy orange guy as your leader but 
>>> you do things like kite surf in a hurricane
>>> 
>>> Good luck to you all in the south we're all hanging out watching the 
>>> happenings.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton 
>>> Miller
>>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 12:27 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
>>> 
>>> WE in Tallahassee over here.  Store shelves are bare, people are leaving 
>>> town, and the Red Cross is stocking up and picking up the homeless.  I just 
>>> grabbed 15 cases of water, 10 cases of gadarade, and some juice boxes for 
>>> the kids.  It is expected to come threw here later on tonight so we will 
>>> see what happens.  The place I live is hurricane ready, so we will see what 
>>> happens.
>>> Check out my groups
>>> Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs:
>>> https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users
>>> Come learn and teach about apple products!
>>> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:51 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 I lived in West Palm for a long time, talking to my friend this evening 
 who still does on the 18th floor of a condo complex.  Sounds like a place 
 I would not want to be.  We’re pulling for you all up here.  Looks like 
 it’s headed a bit west so may be little bit less damaging than originally 
 thought but that sure seems like a whopper of a storm.  Keep the powder 
 dry down there.
 
 
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terje,
> 
> yes were down here in Sunrise fl Broward County AKA Fort 
> Lauderdale We just had a feeder band go through! and a tornado 
> watch just went in to effect! :) Shutters locked and loaded!
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Are there someone from Florida or Georgia on this list? Good luck.
>> 
>> Take care
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Re: Dropbox on the Mac

[E.T.]

   Actually it confirms the issue. I can install DB from scratch, but 
one must type in the credentials blindly (pun intended). The last time I 
worked with this, I turned QN on do I could find either the user id 
field or the password field. Without using QN, Voiceover cannot decide 
which it is focused on. Then turn QN off and type in what is needed. 
Repeat this for the other field. With the user id you can check that its 
entered correctly by navigating back to it. Not a wonderful process.


   I have only been going round in circles with DB support for several 
weeks. I think I need to learn how to make a video of this process and 
send it to them.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/11/2017 7:48 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

hello E.T.

I have been using DropBox on my MacBooks for three years now but have always 
required sighted assistance to initially get things up and running.  Though 
this doesn’t address your question specifically,it might give you some insight. 
  I am sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.

Take care,

Mike


On 11 Sep 2017, at 15:53, E.T.  wrote:

   I am looking for someone to confirm this behavior in Dropbox on their Mac.

   If you set up Dropbox for the first time or had unlinked it then relinked 
it, when the sign in dialog comes up, do you find that there is no typing 
feedback in the user id and password boxes? Dropbox support say they do see 
this happening.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Anybody left in Florida?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Scott,
We lost power for several hours but its back on as of last night around 11 pm!
FP did a good job so far!
As for the rest of your concerns by all means contact me off list, I'd be glad 
to bring you up to speed on those "false news" topics.
GOD bless you. :)
Thats it for now
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Don’t get me started on Christians, I had to ride in to work this morning 
> hearing on the radio how you nut bags blamed the storm on homosexuals and 
> Moslems.
> 
> And people say Isis has the monopoly on evil.  Christianity is right there 
> with them when you start making nut job claims like this.
>   I think another great example of Christianity at work was that Joel 
> what ever his name is with the mega church in Houston who wouldn’t let in 
> people seeking shelter yet he gets a tax free ride on the backs of the 
> citizens.
>   Another fine example is one of your boys Jim Baker Christian soldier 
> who claims that America is being punished by the storms yet neglects to 
> mention is himself received 4 years in federal prison for fraud.  Sounds 
> pretty Christian to me.
> 
> And here we go again with the Moderators only operating one side of thread 
> yet allowing chuck to spread his special brand of hate unimpeded whether it’s 
> out right list violations like this message or in the continuous stream of BS 
> that fills his tag lines that again clearly violate the no religion 
> requirement.
> 
> Have to say this list is steadily becoming less and less valuable and more 
> and more garbage filled with moderation that’s less and less evenly applied.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2017, at 11:57 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah ET,
>> This is off topic but I see you need some clarification!
>> Your correct it was rigged but not enough to pull it off by the adversary!
>> 83% of the Christians in the Us proved that we are still a formidable voting 
>> block!
>> over 3 million illegal aliens seemed to be able to vote in several states!
>> Cant wait till the Vice President finishes his vote fraud investigation.
>> Still love to chat some time and I will explain the ET's for you! :)
>> Chuck
>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>> "Albert Einstein’
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 10, 2017, at 11:12 PM, E.T. wrote:
>> 
>>> Simon,
>>> The election was rigged, the man said so himself.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 9/10/2017 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
 Was listening to some news casts out of florida earlier today,
 Some guy was kite surfing off the Miami beachs in the storm,
 Another guy was wandering down the street with no shirt on and when asked 
 what he was doing he said he was going to tie himself to a post for a 
 science experiement and see out the storm that way,
 It was alright though he said he had safety measures in place.
 I thought we kiwis were friggen crazy,
 Not only do you guys elect a crazy orange guy as your leader but you do 
 things like kite surf in a hurricane
 Good luck to you all in the south we're all hanging out watching the 
 happenings.
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
 Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 12:27 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
 WE in Tallahassee over here.  Store shelves are bare, people are leaving 
 town, and the Red Cross is stocking up and picking up the homeless.  I 
 just grabbed 15 cases of water, 10 cases of gadarade, and some juice boxes 
 for the kids.  It is expected to come threw here later on tonight so we 
 will see what happens.  The place I live is hurricane ready, so we will 
 see what happens.
 Check out my groups
 Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs: 
 https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users
 Come learn and teach about apple products!
 https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:51 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I lived in West Palm for a long time, talking to my friend this evening 
> who still does on the 18th floor of a condo complex.  Sounds like a place 
> I would not want to be.  We’re pulling for you all up here.  Looks like 
> it’s headed a bit west so may be little bit less damaging than originally 
> thought but that sure seems like a whopper of a storm.  Keep the powder 
> dry down there.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>  wrote:
>> 

Re: Anybody left in Florida?

[Scott Granados]

Well, until someone get ahold of Chuck and actually applies some moderation I’m 
done, unsubbing account #2.

> On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:39 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Heh, thanks for the correction. Yes, go figure. Next year's midterm 
> elections will be interesting, we will see how many of the right lose their 
> seats.
> 
>   Michelle O as President. Hmmm! Fascinating!
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 9/10/2017 9:22 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Hey ET,
>>  That's no man, it's an orange!
>> But yeah and he still sits in the chair of power,
>>  Go figure,
>>  Michelle O for president, how would that sound?
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 3:13 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
>> Simon,
>> The election was rigged, the man said so himself.
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> On 9/10/2017 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> Was listening to some news casts out of florida earlier today,
>>> 
>>> Some guy was kite surfing off the Miami beachs in the storm,
>>> 
>>> Another guy was wandering down the street with no shirt on and when
>>> asked what he was doing he said he was going to tie himself to a post for a 
>>> science experiement and see out the storm that way, It was alright though 
>>> he said he had safety measures in place.
>>> 
>>> I thought we kiwis were friggen crazy,
>>> 
>>>   Not only do you guys elect a crazy orange guy as your leader but you
>>> do things like kite surf in a hurricane
>>> 
>>> Good luck to you all in the south we're all hanging out watching the 
>>> happenings.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
>>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 12:27 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
>>> 
>>> WE in Tallahassee over here.  Store shelves are bare, people are leaving 
>>> town, and the Red Cross is stocking up and picking up the homeless.  I just 
>>> grabbed 15 cases of water, 10 cases of gadarade, and some juice boxes for 
>>> the kids.  It is expected to come threw here later on tonight so we will 
>>> see what happens.  The place I live is hurricane ready, so we will see what 
>>> happens.
>>> Check out my groups
>>> Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs:
>>> https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users
>>> Come learn and teach about apple products!
>>> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:51 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 I lived in West Palm for a long time, talking to my friend this evening 
 who still does on the 18th floor of a condo complex.  Sounds like a place 
 I would not want to be.  We’re pulling for you all up here.  Looks like 
 it’s headed a bit west so may be little bit less damaging than originally 
 thought but that sure seems like a whopper of a storm.  Keep the powder 
 dry down there.
 
 
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terje,
> 
> yes were down here in Sunrise fl Broward County AKA Fort Lauderdale
> We just had a feeder band go through! and a tornado watch just went
> in to effect! :) Shutters locked and loaded!
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Are there someone from Florida or Georgia on this list? Good luck.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
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Re: Anybody left in Florida?

[Scott Granados]

Don’t get me started on Christians, I had to ride in to work this morning 
hearing on the radio how you nut bags blamed the storm on homosexuals and 
Moslems.

And people say Isis has the monopoly on evil.  Christianity is right there with 
them when you start making nut job claims like this.
I think another great example of Christianity at work was that Joel 
what ever his name is with the mega church in Houston who wouldn’t let in 
people seeking shelter yet he gets a tax free ride on the backs of the citizens.
Another fine example is one of your boys Jim Baker Christian soldier 
who claims that America is being punished by the storms yet neglects to mention 
is himself received 4 years in federal prison for fraud.  Sounds pretty 
Christian to me.

And here we go again with the Moderators only operating one side of thread yet 
allowing chuck to spread his special brand of hate unimpeded whether it’s out 
right list violations like this message or in the continuous stream of BS that 
fills his tag lines that again clearly violate the no religion requirement.

Have to say this list is steadily becoming less and less valuable and more and 
more garbage filled with moderation that’s less and less evenly applied.



> On Sep 10, 2017, at 11:57 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah ET,
> This is off topic but I see you need some clarification!
> Your correct it was rigged but not enough to pull it off by the adversary!
> 83% of the Christians in the Us proved that we are still a formidable voting 
> block!
> over 3 million illegal aliens seemed to be able to vote in several states!
> Cant wait till the Vice President finishes his vote fraud investigation.
> Still love to chat some time and I will explain the ET's for you! :)
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 11:12 PM, E.T. wrote:
> 
>> Simon,
>>  The election was rigged, the man said so himself.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 9/10/2017 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> Was listening to some news casts out of florida earlier today,
>>> Some guy was kite surfing off the Miami beachs in the storm,
>>> Another guy was wandering down the street with no shirt on and when asked 
>>> what he was doing he said he was going to tie himself to a post for a 
>>> science experiement and see out the storm that way,
>>> It was alright though he said he had safety measures in place.
>>> I thought we kiwis were friggen crazy,
>>> Not only do you guys elect a crazy orange guy as your leader but you do 
>>> things like kite surf in a hurricane
>>> Good luck to you all in the south we're all hanging out watching the 
>>> happenings.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
>>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 12:27 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Anybody left in Florida?
>>> WE in Tallahassee over here.  Store shelves are bare, people are leaving 
>>> town, and the Red Cross is stocking up and picking up the homeless.  I just 
>>> grabbed 15 cases of water, 10 cases of gadarade, and some juice boxes for 
>>> the kids.  It is expected to come threw here later on tonight so we will 
>>> see what happens.  The place I live is hurricane ready, so we will see what 
>>> happens.
>>> Check out my groups
>>> Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs: 
>>> https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users
>>> Come learn and teach about apple products!
>>> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple
 On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:51 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 I lived in West Palm for a long time, talking to my friend this evening 
 who still does on the 18th floor of a condo complex.  Sounds like a place 
 I would not want to be.  We’re pulling for you all up here.  Looks like 
 it’s headed a bit west so may be little bit less damaging than originally 
 thought but that sure seems like a whopper of a storm.  Keep the powder 
 dry down there.
 
 
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terje,
> 
> yes were down here in Sunrise fl Broward County AKA Fort Lauderdale
> We just had a feeder band go through! and a tornado watch just went
> in to effect! :) Shutters locked and loaded!
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
> On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Are there someone from Florida or Georgia on this list? Good luck.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> --

Re: Filezilla

[Oriol Gómez]

Hi.
Use transmit on the mac.
Much better software.

Cheers.

On 9/11/17, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I just downloaded and installed Filezilla and have established a connection
> to my server.
>
> I can’t figure out how to see my files.  Can anybody offer any tips on using
> Filezilla?
>
> Maybe it is only accessible on Windows?
>
> Thx,
> Jeff
>
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Filezilla

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi there,

I just downloaded and installed Filezilla and have established a connection to 
my server.  

I can’t figure out how to see my files.  Can anybody offer any tips on using 
Filezilla?

Maybe it is only accessible on Windows?

Thx,
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Re: Dropbox on the Mac

[Michael Busboom]

hello E.T.

I have been using DropBox on my MacBooks for three years now but have always 
required sighted assistance to initially get things up and running.  Though 
this doesn’t address your question specifically,it might give you some insight. 
  I am sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.

Take care,

Mike

> On 11 Sep 2017, at 15:53, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I am looking for someone to confirm this behavior in Dropbox on their Mac.
> 
>   If you set up Dropbox for the first time or had unlinked it then relinked 
> it, when the sign in dialog comes up, do you find that there is no typing 
> feedback in the user id and password boxes? Dropbox support say they do see 
> this happening.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Dropbox on the Mac

[E.T.]

   I am looking for someone to confirm this behavior in Dropbox on 
their Mac.


   If you set up Dropbox for the first time or had unlinked it then 
relinked it, when the sign in dialog comes up, do you find that there is 
no typing feedback in the user id and password boxes? Dropbox support 
say they do see this happening.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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RE: Really OT but a pleasure

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Andy,

Sorry don’t know the name,
We’ve got 4.7 million people here and I’m in the deepish south,

But good one talking to m=him,

Interesting though that he had to go to scottland to see scottland,
I live in the edinbourogh of the south a city in the south of NZ call Dunedin,
He could have come down here to us and seen a castle and pubs,

Nothing at all like the real scottland, except for the weather.

Great chat.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Monday, 11 September 2017 7:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Really OT but a pleasure

Hi all.

Off-topic message I'm afraid, but I met a guy from New Zealand here today, in 
Kilcreggan, Scotland.

He is over here with his family from the North Island and is spending time 
going around our country.

I told him that I knew several visually impaired people from his buitiful 
country, on this list and I'd pass on a message.

So here it is.

His name was dificult to gather as we were in a busy pup, but he said something 
like:

Ky1.dave


And asked me to pass on his regards to anyone who knew him.


Nice guy and a pleasure to meet.

Small world.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
>From Scotland with Love.
Not sure if this will mean anything to you guys, but I introduced him to a pint 
of Guiness and he bought one for me before I left.


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