Re: Automator in Mojave

[Oriol Gómez]

Hi.
As far as I've seen, only the renaming of services to quick actions has changed.

hth

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> Anyone using this app? Its been changed in Mojave so information as
> it relates to bind users is slim. Everything I have found is for
> previous versions. Would like to get some help understanding how to use
> the app.
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Re: Mojave Mouse Cursor

[Angus MacKinnon]

E.T.

Thank you. This only increases the Mouse Cursor to 100% and appears as a black 
figure with a White Background. I have Mojave in Dark Mode. How do I make the 
cursor a solid White figure that reverses colour. Thank you.

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Re: mohavi and voices question

[jean parker]

Hi All:

I think it is the typing voice and the attributes voice that I want to adjust. 
When I looked in vo utilities, speech, voices then under customization, I only 
found the setting for the voice for content. What am I I missing? By the way, 
thanks for letting me know what they are called, that really helps.

Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
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Geneva, Switzerland

> On 9 Nov 2018, at 8:52 pm, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Correct. I had looked in the wrong place but did find it. Its buried in VO 
> Utility, Speech, then the voice pop up button and at the bottom is Customize 
> Language or something like that. Probably what the OP needs to look at.
> 
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> On 11/9/2018 7:51 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:
>> There are actually five different voice settings in VO.
>> Typing voice, menu voice and attributes voice for 3.
>> Michael Marshall
>> For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice 
>> Realm profile.
>> http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall
>>> On 10 Nov 2018, at 1:26 pm, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   There are just the two. The system voice which is set in System 
>>> preferences and the voice in Voiceover Utility.
>>> 
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>>> On 11/9/2018 5:57 PM, jean parker wrote:
 Hello All:
 I have recently upgraded to Mohavi. So I know there is the voice for the 
 main functions of Voiceover, and I know about the system voice. But now 
 there is a third voice that says things like heading or identifies an edit 
 box for example. I think it was there prior to this update but I am not 
 sure. Anyway, I don’t know what this is called and I want to make some 
 adjustments to it. Any info on this would be most helpful. I have looked 
 in voiceover utility but since I don’t know what the thing is called I 
 can’t figure out how to adjust it.
 Many thanks,

 Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
 Senior Research Fellow
 Trans4m Center For Integral Development
 Geneva, Switzerland
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Re: mohavi and voices question

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Correct. I had looked in the wrong place but did find it. Its buried 
in VO Utility, Speech, then the voice pop up button and at the bottom is 
Customize Language or something like that. Probably what the OP needs to 
look at.


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On 11/9/2018 7:51 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:

There are actually five different voice settings in VO.
Typing voice, menu voice and attributes voice for 3.
Michael Marshall
For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice Realm 
profile.
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On 10 Nov 2018, at 1:26 pm, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   There are just the two. The system voice which is set in System preferences 
and the voice in Voiceover Utility.

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On 11/9/2018 5:57 PM, jean parker wrote:

Hello All:
I have recently upgraded to Mohavi. So I know there is the voice for the main 
functions of Voiceover, and I know about the system voice. But now there is a 
third voice that says things like heading or identifies an edit box for 
example. I think it was there prior to this update but I am not sure. Anyway, I 
don’t know what this is called and I want to make some adjustments to it. Any 
info on this would be most helpful. I have looked in voiceover utility but 
since I don’t know what the thing is called I can’t figure out how to adjust it.
Many thanks,

Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland


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Re: Mojave Mouse Cursor

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Yes. System preferences, Accessibility, Display category.

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In Mojave, can the Mouse Cursor be enlarged to a size like ElCapitan or 
larger? Thank you.


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Mojave Mouse Cursor

[Angus MacKinnon]

In Mojave, can the Mouse Cursor be enlarged to a size like ElCapitan or larger? 
Thank you.

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Re: mohavi and voices question

[Michael Marshall]

There are actually five different voice settings in VO.
Typing voice, menu voice and attributes voice for 3.
Michael Marshall
For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice Realm 
profile.
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> On 10 Nov 2018, at 1:26 pm, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   There are just the two. The system voice which is set in System preferences 
> and the voice in Voiceover Utility.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
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> 
> On 11/9/2018 5:57 PM, jean parker wrote:
>> Hello All:
>> I have recently upgraded to Mohavi. So I know there is the voice for the 
>> main functions of Voiceover, and I know about the system voice. But now 
>> there is a third voice that says things like heading or identifies an edit 
>> box for example. I think it was there prior to this update but I am not 
>> sure. Anyway, I don’t know what this is called and I want to make some 
>> adjustments to it. Any info on this would be most helpful. I have looked in 
>> voiceover utility but since I don’t know what the thing is called I can’t 
>> figure out how to adjust it.
>> Many thanks,
>>  
>> Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
>> Senior Research Fellow
>> Trans4m Center For Integral Development
>> Geneva, Switzerland
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Re: mohavi and voices question

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   There are just the two. The system voice which is set in System 
preferences and the voice in Voiceover Utility.


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On 11/9/2018 5:57 PM, jean parker wrote:

Hello All:

I have recently upgraded to Mohavi. So I know there is the voice for the main 
functions of Voiceover, and I know about the system voice. But now there is a 
third voice that says things like heading or identifies an edit box for 
example. I think it was there prior to this update but I am not sure. Anyway, I 
don’t know what this is called and I want to make some adjustments to it. Any 
info on this would be most helpful. I have looked in voiceover utility but 
since I don’t know what the thing is called I can’t figure out how to adjust it.


Many thanks,


Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland



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mohavi and voices question

[jean parker]

Hello All:

I have recently upgraded to Mohavi. So I know there is the voice for the main 
functions of Voiceover, and I know about the system voice. But now there is a 
third voice that says things like heading or identifies an edit box for 
example. I think it was there prior to this update but I am not sure. Anyway, I 
don’t know what this is called and I want to make some adjustments to it. Any 
info on this would be most helpful. I have looked in voiceover utility but 
since I don’t know what the thing is called I can’t figure out how to adjust it.


Many thanks,


Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland

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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Yes that is what I started doing when want to do a clean install. 
Too bad we don't have the export feature for Accessibility preferences.


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On 11/9/2018 5:14 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:

thanks, will do that.
Doing an export of my preferred settings and then importing them did the trick.
You don't have to do that every time but if you have a backup saved of VO prefs 
before the current operating system, save everything again.
Michael Marshall
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On 10 Nov 2018, at 11:20 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Michael, next time this happens, export the VO settings and send that to 
Apple, it might help them find the source of the problem.

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On 11/9/2018 3:44 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:

I will certainly try this but it really annoys me when Apple says they can't 
reproduce the problem.
Michael Marshall
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On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:16 am, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening.  WE shouldn’t allow the slip in 
accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start trying to 
fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix 
things either as I find with Greek voice.

On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to the 
desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just activate 
that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the export with 
VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.

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On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.

On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

hey all,
am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave.
i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the 
system reverts back to the australian voice.
i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes 
and typing back to alex.
all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
it is extremely irritating.
has anyone else found this?

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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

[Michael Marshall]

thanks, will do that.
Doing an export of my preferred settings and then importing them did the trick.
You don't have to do that every time but if you have a backup saved of VO prefs 
before the current operating system, save everything again.
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> On 10 Nov 2018, at 11:20 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Michael, next time this happens, export the VO settings and send that to 
> Apple, it might help them find the source of the problem.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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> On 11/9/2018 3:44 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:
>> I will certainly try this but it really annoys me when Apple says they can't 
>> reproduce the problem.
>> Michael Marshall
>> For Voice Over inquiries or to listen to my demos, please visit my Voice 
>> Realm profile.
>> http://www.thevoicerealm.com/talent/Michael.Marshall
>>> On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:16 am, Andrew Lamanche  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening.  WE shouldn’t allow the slip 
>>> in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
>>> preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start 
>>> trying to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for 
>>> Apple to fix things either as I find with Greek voice.
 On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
  I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to 
 the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just 
 activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do 
 the export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
> Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hey all,
>> am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on 
>> Mojave.
>> i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost 
>> and the system reverts back to the australian voice.
>> i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as 
>> attributes and typing back to alex.
>> all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
>> it is extremely irritating.
>> has anyone else found this?
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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Michael, next time this happens, export the VO settings and send 
that to Apple, it might help them find the source of the problem.


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On 11/9/2018 3:44 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:

I will certainly try this but it really annoys me when Apple says they can't 
reproduce the problem.
Michael Marshall
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On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:16 am, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening.  WE shouldn’t allow the slip in 
accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start trying to 
fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix 
things either as I find with Greek voice.

On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to the 
desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just activate 
that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the export with 
VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.

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Many believe that we have been visited
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On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.

On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

hey all,
am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave.
i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the 
system reverts back to the australian voice.
i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes 
and typing back to alex.
all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
it is extremely irritating.
has anyone else found this?

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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

[Michael Marshall]

i'm getting off the beta because of a very annoying problem.
I have re-exported my VO settings witch i had not done in a wile.
I will try the suggestion and let you all know the results.
these new extra voice settings seem to be a new thing.
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> On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:41 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Understood but I disagree somewhat. Everything is always a work in 
> progress. So we find workarounds while at the same time, we keep after Apple.
> 
>   One issue  never hear anyone complain about is how much Voiceover repeats 
> elements. One example might be Facetime. When you open it you will hear 
> Facetime Facetime window. Sure, easy fix, just hit control. But it should not 
> be standard practice.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> On 11/9/2018 2:16 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>> Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening.  WE shouldn’t allow the slip 
>> in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
>> preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start trying 
>> to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to 
>> fix things either as I find with Greek voice.
>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to 
>>> the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just 
>>> activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the 
>>> export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
 Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> hey all,
> am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on 
> Mojave.
> i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost 
> and the system reverts back to the australian voice.
> i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as 
> attributes and typing back to alex.
> all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
> it is extremely irritating.
> has anyone else found this?
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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

[Michael Marshall]

I agree with you about repetition of certain things.
It can be very annoying.
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> On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:41 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Understood but I disagree somewhat. Everything is always a work in 
> progress. So we find workarounds while at the same time, we keep after Apple.
> 
>   One issue  never hear anyone complain about is how much Voiceover repeats 
> elements. One example might be Facetime. When you open it you will hear 
> Facetime Facetime window. Sure, easy fix, just hit control. But it should not 
> be standard practice.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 11/9/2018 2:16 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>> Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening.  WE shouldn’t allow the slip 
>> in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
>> preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start trying 
>> to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to 
>> fix things either as I find with Greek voice.
>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to 
>>> the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just 
>>> activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the 
>>> export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
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>>> On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
 Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> hey all,
> am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on 
> Mojave.
> i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost 
> and the system reverts back to the australian voice.
> i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as 
> attributes and typing back to alex.
> all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
> it is extremely irritating.
> has anyone else found this?
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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

[Michael Marshall]

I will certainly try this but it really annoys me when Apple says they can't 
reproduce the problem.
Michael Marshall
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> On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:16 am, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening.  WE shouldn’t allow the slip 
> in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
> preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start trying 
> to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix 
> things either as I find with Greek voice.
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to 
>> the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just 
>> activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the 
>> export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
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>> On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>>> Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.
 On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on 
 Mojave.
 i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost 
 and the system reverts back to the australian voice.
 i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as 
 attributes and typing back to alex.
 all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
 it is extremely irritating.
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Re: Issue With Voice Over Resetting Voices on Mojave after System Updates.

[Michael Marshall]

Well according to Apple, "we have no other reports of this problem and we 
cannot reproduce it."
Anyone who is experiencing this problem, please write to Apple accessibility 
and explain.
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> On 10 Nov 2018, at 5:49 am, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> I have experienced the same thing but have no fix for it.  So Sorry.  The 
> Voice part of the Voiceover utility has been awful since Mojave if not High 
> Sierra.  The Greek voice still hasn’t been fixed although I must have 
> reported more than 20 times.  It’s killing me and my work.  And I can’t 
> upgrade my other mac to High Sierra or Mojave because of this.  Bad bad bad!
> 
> Andrew
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
>> mailto:debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All
>>  
>> Recently I upgraded my iMac 2015 to Mojave. At first, it was great but every 
>> time I do a system update, Voice Over keeps reverting all of its voices such 
>> as the Keyboard voice, the menu voice and it’s default voice back to 
>> Australian Karen. I have to go into the VO Utility and set them all back to 
>> Alex which is my preferred voice.
>> Any assistance is really appreciated as this is starting to drive me crazy.
>>  
>> Thanks
>> Debbie
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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Understood but I disagree somewhat. Everything is always a work in 
progress. So we find workarounds while at the same time, we keep after 
Apple.


   One issue  never hear anyone complain about is how much Voiceover 
repeats elements. One example might be Facetime. When you open it you 
will hear Facetime Facetime window. Sure, easy fix, just hit control. 
But it should not be standard practice.


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On 11/9/2018 2:16 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening.  WE shouldn’t allow the slip in 
accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start trying to 
fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix 
things either as I find with Greek voice.

On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to the 
desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just activate 
that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the export with 
VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.

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Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.

On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

hey all,
am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave.
i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the 
system reverts back to the australian voice.
i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes 
and typing back to alex.
all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
it is extremely irritating.
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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

[Andrew Lamanche]

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accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start trying to 
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things either as I find with Greek voice.
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to 
> the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just 
> activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the 
> export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.
> 
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> On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>> Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.
>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey all,
>>> am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on 
>>> Mojave.
>>> i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and 
>>> the system reverts back to the australian voice.
>>> i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as 
>>> attributes and typing back to alex.
>>> all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
>>> it is extremely irritating.
>>> has anyone else found this?
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Automator in Mojave

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Anyone using this app? Its been changed in Mojave so information as 
it relates to bind users is slim. Everything I have found is for 
previous versions. Would like to get some help understanding how to use 
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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO 
settings to the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes 
south again, just activate that exported file and it will automatically 
import itself. Do the export with VO Utility open, the command is on the 
file menu.


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On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.

On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

hey all,
am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave.
i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the 
system reverts back to the australian voice.
i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes 
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Re: Mojave not staying on my preferred voice after update

[Andrew Lamanche]

Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
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> hey all,
> am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on 
> Mojave.
> i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and 
> the system reverts back to the australian voice.
> i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as 
> attributes and typing back to alex.
> all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
> it is extremely irritating.
> has anyone else found this?
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Re: Issue With Voice Over Resetting Voices on Mojave after System Updates.

[Andrew Lamanche]

I have experienced the same thing but have no fix for it.  So Sorry.  The Voice 
part of the Voiceover utility has been awful since Mojave if not High Sierra.  
The Greek voice still hasn’t been fixed although I must have reported more than 
20 times.  It’s killing me and my work.  And I can’t upgrade my other mac to 
High Sierra or Mojave because of this.  Bad bad bad!

Andrew
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
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> Recently I upgraded my iMac 2015 to Mojave. At first, it was great but every 
> time I do a system update, Voice Over keeps reverting all of its voices such 
> as the Keyboard voice, the menu voice and it’s default voice back to 
> Australian Karen. I have to go into the VO Utility and set them all back to 
> Alex which is my preferred voice.
> Any assistance is really appreciated as this is starting to drive me crazy.
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> Thanks
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Re: .tgz file?

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

Unpack it like zip.

Sent from my iPad

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Re: internet accounts

[N2KPV]

Mine is doing it again this morning . Hopefully it goes away again .

Ben C.

On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 12:10:20 AM UTC-5, Lorie McCloud wrote:
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> my mac is asking me to enter my password for my Yahoo mail account. I know 
> you're supposed to do that in internet accounts but I can't find where to 
> enter it. would it be easier to do it somewhere in mail? 
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.tgz file?

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Hi folks.

Just wondering how I would install this?

Its a driver for and audio interface.

I no the .dmg is a disc image.

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Issue With Voice Over Resetting Voices on Mojave after System Updates.

[Debbie April Yuille]

Hi All

 

Recently I upgraded my iMac 2015 to Mojave. At first, it was great but every
time I do a system update, Voice Over keeps reverting all of its voices such
as the Keyboard voice, the menu voice and it's default voice back to
Australian Karen. I have to go into the VO Utility and set them all back to
Alex which is my preferred voice.

Any assistance is really appreciated as this is starting to drive me crazy.

 

Thanks

Debbie

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