Using My iPad, More and More

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

Well, I've had my iPad Pro, 10.5 with the Apple Smart keyboard for a couple
of months now.

At first, I found it somewhat difficult to allocate certain tasks to it that
could not be done, or in some cases, more easily done on my beloved iPhone 8
Plus.

However, as time has passed I have discovered that I prefer performing some
tasks on iPad more than on iPhone.  

For example, I definitely enjoy using Twitter, Facebook and other social
media such as Yelp on iPad, especially in conjunction with the Apple Smart
keyboard.  Also, the TV Guide Mobile app is fabulous on iPad.  

Apps such as Skype work well on iPad and I love the larger display as it
brings video calls up close and personal.  

While I continue to listen to audio book, primarily on iPhone, I enjoy
reading eBooks on iPad with the larger display.  

The battery power is so much better on iPad than on iPhone that I delegate
more battery draining tasks to iPad.  

My point is that while there is some cross-over between iPad and iPhone, I
am definitely finding a groove for both in my digital online world.

Are there some tasks you prefer on iPad rather than iPhone?

I look forward to all replies.

Mark


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Question for Apple TV users regarding sound bar

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
In the past, I have had a lot of trouble with sound bars not playing nicely 
with voiceover, in that, when you were looking around, the first several 
syllables of voiceover audio would go missing. If sound was playing through the 
sound bar already, such as music or TV program, there was not a problem. I did 
finally find a sound bar from LG a few years ago which solved this problem. But 
I am considering an upgrade, and don’t want to go through the hassle again. So 
I’m curious what quality sound bars are folks using these days with Apple TV 
where a voiceover works as it should, that is no audio is cut off, even when no 
other sounds are playing?
Mary


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Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

['Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
First off.
I love these speakers. They really do what I want. I’ll be using them both in 
OS 10 and Windows 10 under bootcamp.
Crazy sounds. For $30, the apeakers do ok.
I did somplaying around with the EQ in Mac iTunes and again, with some of my 
music, darn good for the price.


> On Jun 11, 2019, at 11:44 PM, B G  wrote:
> 
> My apologies if below content strays off-topic. i heard this a short
> while ago and thought it would be a fun way of testing the quality of
> your speakers.  granted it is Youtube and therefore not your CD player
> (golly, giving away my age now in this age of streaming audio) but it
> should be sufficient to get a measure of the depth and range.  Here is
> the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU5rpnBxZnU
> 
> Awaiting your findings with bated breath.
> 
> Regards, ben
> 
> On 6/11/19, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
>> hello,
>> 
>> It was $30 approximately for the set. Actually 29 something plus tax.
>> 
>> if you go to Amazon.com and type in the following number it will get you
>> directly to the speakers
>> 
>> ASIN B075VBXGT2
>> 
>> 
>> hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 7:37 AM, CHUCK REICHEL
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dan,
>>> were they $30.00 for each speaker?
>>> Do you have a direct link to them?
>>> Always looking for small systems to test out mixes on. :)
>>> Thanks
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:17 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 
 hello,
 
 after looking around a while I found the following speaker system and I
 ordered it.
 
 R19U is equipped with Edifier's latest 2.75” full-range speaker unit,
 
 
 
 
 these are bookshelf speakers.
 
 USB powered and USB audio supplied.
 
 it has a jack and a complementary 3.5 mm male to male cord for other
 audio devices to play into the speakers. if anybody's interested I
 ordered this from Amazon.
 
 It should be here tomorrow.
 
 they cost around $30 US. so the reason I got these was because the USB
 connection supplies both power to the speakers and has the sound card for
 X ternal audio.
 
 Thus only using one connection.
 
 Will be interesting to see how these things work, I sure hope they do a
 good job.
 
 Dan
 
 
> On Jun 10, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:
> 
> I always use to like the mission argonaughts,
> Spelling might be off but they had a great sound to them, right across
> the board,
> 
> Not sure how they'd work though with a Mac Mini. -Original
> Message-
> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 8:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini
> 
> Hello,
> I'm also looking for good quality speakers for the mac mini.
> I am attempting to find USB speakers. Not just USB powered, but also
> using the USB connection for audio as well, not the 3.5 MM jack.
> I have found external sound cards. I've also found many USB powered
> speakers but they still use the 3.5 MM jack for the audio. Not what I
> want.
> I'm still looking.
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:12 PM, B G  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought I'd consult the list on this considering we screen-reader
>> users on average tend to be more selective about the quality of our
>> audio equipment. In short, I'm looking for either a decent set of
>> speakers or a monitor with a decent pair of built-in speakers. There's
>> 
>> a surprising dearth of quality gear in the market - on Amazon at any
>> rate. Can the list offer any recommendations?
>> Much obliged, Ben
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Re: Importing multiple vcf files to ios plz?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Yes

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2019, at 7:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Are you sure that they were VCF cards that you were attempting to import?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
> 
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:41, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
>  Aha great, but when i was trying to import it from mac, i hit import,  but 
> did not see the contacts on my mac.
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 4:09 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, that should work.  Although, if you're using his iCloud account, once 
>> you import them into Contacts on your Mac, they will automatically be added 
>> to their contacts on their iPhone without the need to eMail.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 16:05, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
>>> 
>>> SOrry for asking again, if i can get all the VCF cards to 1 file,a and will 
>>> send to him via mail, once he will click on it, it will be on his Contacts?
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 11:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yes, they would mix all in with your contacts and it would be frustrating.  
>>> I suggest you create another user account on your Mac.  Then you can sign 
>>> in with your friends iCloud account.  Once they imported into their iCloud 
>>> contacts, it would be done.  No need to do any eMailing or messaging.  The 
>>> contacts would simply sync up to iCloud and back over to their iPhone.
>>> 
>>> You could then sign out and delete the user account from your Mac and 
>>> nothing will affect your user information at all.  If you are unfamiliar as 
>>> how to create another user account on your Mac, let me know and I'll help.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 15:23, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aha great, but I do not want them to interfeer or be in my contacts, i need 
>>> just to export them as 1 VCF  card and give it to my friend, will they be 
>>> in my contacts or what?
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 11:09 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The only way I know how to do that is on your Mac.  You'd import them all 
 into the contacts app, then select them all to export.  When you export 
 the group of selected items, it will place them in one file with many 
 cards inside.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 
 
 
 Jamf Certified Associate
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 14:52, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
 <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
 
 Ok, but i have all the VCF files they are like 260 file.
 THe issue here is that i need to put them in 1 VCF file that can be read 
 with IOS.
 how?
 
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> No, they can be sent as one file of many vcf cards, or individually.  
> Individually would likely be painful, so I suggest the one file with many 
> vcf cards in it.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
> 
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 14:18, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
> 
> Sorry for my miss understanding, but do you need him to send the VCF card 
> 1 by 1 or what sorry?
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 4:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If the contact cards are exported to a multiple vcf file, then either 
>> eMailed or iMessaged to the individual, they could then be brought into 
>> the iPhone through the attached vcf file.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 05:42, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> As this is a favor for one of my friends the whole Bosy new iPhone, he 
>> needs to import all 

Encrypt.me accessibility update

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I’ve posted before about VPN app called encrypt.me  & its 
accessibility.  I shared my communication with the developer, Terry Myers, 
who’s been very helpful & understanding of our needs.  Following his & his team 
commitment to improve accessibility of encrypt.me  apps on 
all platforms, he’s just updated me by saying the following;
"The next release going into QA has a slightly improved accessibility feature.

You'll be able to enable/disable Encrypt.me  using Siri, on 
iOS & Mac.

Monochrome is coming - we're going to work on that along side the new dark mode 
in iOS13.”

Encrypt.me  applications are available for iOS, Android, 
mac platforms.  In fact, I have iOS versions & mac apps and they are fairly 
accessible anyway but I thought I’d make Terry aware that we exist and that it 
is important to keep us in mind, and his response was tremendously positive.  
Encrypt.me  is a subscription VPN but it’s fairly 
affordable.

Andrew

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Re: New router or not?

[John JD Denning]

You definitely should consider a new router. I looked it Manny and went with he 
ubiquityAmplifi HD. It supports very high speeds it’s a quality router and for 
a good price. And you do all of its set up and control via an iPhone app. Or 
web interface but I haven’t tried that. There are many good routers on the 
market right now. For me I just felt this was the best mix of features, price, 
and from a company that has a very good track record and producing commercial 
Wi-Fi equipment.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2019, at 13:04, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I can’t answer the question about open VPN. But I can’t say that the airport 
> extreme is definitely out of date. I had an airport extreme, and last year, I 
> replaced it with a mesh system, and the difference was amazing. I get solid 
> signal throughout my house. Wi-Fi speeds have dramatically increased. We 
> don’t have giga giga bit like what you’re going to have. But at least I am 
> now getting what I am paying for from my cable provider. The system I bought 
> was a Netgear Orby. It has one main router and two satellite. If you have an 
> apartment, you probably don’t need that. But getting something with better 
> throughput will certainly serve you well.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:20 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> We’re getting fibre connection at 1000 Mbit here in my apartment and i want 
>> to make use of that as much as possible.
>> So i will be connecting my airport extreme to the new connection.
>> However i am wondering if the airport extreme is out of date as a good 
>> router and if i should get me a new one instead?
>> If i get a new router then support for OpenVpn is a must.
>> So i ask if someone here can give me some advice?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Note that the interface for a new router of course has to be VoiceOver 
>> friendly.
>> The airport utility is one of the best i’ve seen so far.
>> I know that there  are routers with Unix interfaces, but any tips are 
>> welcome.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> /A
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Re: Mailboxes under macOS

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Yup. I got results with my iTunes library so cannot complain.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/12/2019 10:39 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I've fought those a few times too.  Just hurt my fists.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)


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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:38, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Ok thanks I will stop fighting the brick wall. ")

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ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/12/2019 10:36 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Those are stock mailboxes.  Like your InBox, they cannot be removed.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  I have chosen to use certain names for some boxes such as Junk and 
Trash. Under the Smart Mailboxes however, I have Deleted Messages or 
Spam. I cannot get rid of these, I get an error 1030. Is there a 
reason why this is? I am using 3 email accounts and set Mailbox 
Behavior for each.

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Re: Importing multiple vcf files to ios plz?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Are you sure that they were VCF cards that you were attempting to import?

Later...

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Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:41, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

 Aha great, but when i was trying to import it from mac, i hit import,  but did 
not see the contacts on my mac.

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2019, at 4:09 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yes, that should work.  Although, if you're using his iCloud account, once 
> you import them into Contacts on your Mac, they will automatically be added 
> to their contacts on their iPhone without the need to eMail.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
> 
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 16:05, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
> 
> SOrry for asking again, if i can get all the VCF cards to 1 file,a and will 
> send to him via mail, once he will click on it, it will be on his Contacts?
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 11:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, they would mix all in with your contacts and it would be frustrating.  
>> I suggest you create another user account on your Mac.  Then you can sign in 
>> with your friends iCloud account.  Once they imported into their iCloud 
>> contacts, it would be done.  No need to do any eMailing or messaging.  The 
>> contacts would simply sync up to iCloud and back over to their iPhone.
>> 
>> You could then sign out and delete the user account from your Mac and 
>> nothing will affect your user information at all.  If you are unfamiliar as 
>> how to create another user account on your Mac, let me know and I'll help.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
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>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 15:23, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
>> 
>> Aha great, but I do not want them to interfeer or be in my contacts, i need 
>> just to export them as 1 VCF  card and give it to my friend, will they be in 
>> my contacts or what?
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 11:09 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The only way I know how to do that is on your Mac.  You'd import them all 
>>> into the contacts app, then select them all to export.  When you export the 
>>> group of selected items, it will place them in one file with many cards 
>>> inside.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jamf Certified Associate
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>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 14:52, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, but i have all the VCF files they are like 260 file.
>>> THe issue here is that i need to put them in 1 VCF file that can be read 
>>> with IOS.
>>> how?
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 No, they can be sent as one file of many vcf cards, or individually.  
 Individually would likely be painful, so I suggest the one file with many 
 vcf cards in it.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 
 
 
 Jamf Certified Associate
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 14:18, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
 <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
 
 Sorry for my miss understanding, but do you need him to send the VCF card 
 1 by 1 or what sorry?
 
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 4:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If the contact cards are exported to a multiple vcf file, then either 
> eMailed or iMessaged to the individual, they could then be brought into 
> the iPhone through the attached vcf file.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
> 
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 05:42, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> As this is a favor for one of my friends the whole Bosy new iPhone, he 
> needs to import all his 

Re: Mailboxes under macOS

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I've fought those a few times too.  Just hurt my fists.

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Hi,

Those are stock mailboxes.  Like your InBox, they cannot be removed.

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Re: Mailboxes under macOS

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Re: New router or not?

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You should be able to connect your airport express into a system with a more 
modern router, thus giving you your stereo, but giving you better speed and 
more stable signal for other things.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi Mary!
> Thanks for your answer.
> Well, the speed is ok but i have had a lot of dropouts and i guess this has 
> to do with the airport.
> I do want my airport express though as i have my stereo connected to that one.
> I will dig google for more tests and answers.
> /A
> 
>> 12 juni 2019 kl. 19:04 skrev Mary Otten :
>> 
>> I can’t answer the question about open VPN. But I can’t say that the airport 
>> extreme is definitely out of date. I had an airport extreme, and last year, 
>> I replaced it with a mesh system, and the difference was amazing. I get 
>> solid signal throughout my house. Wi-Fi speeds have dramatically increased. 
>> We don’t have giga giga bit like what you’re going to have. But at least I 
>> am now getting what I am paying for from my cable provider. The system I 
>> bought was a Netgear Orby. It has one main router and two satellite. If you 
>> have an apartment, you probably don’t need that. But getting something with 
>> better throughput will certainly serve you well.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:20 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>>> Hi!
>>> We’re getting fibre connection at 1000 Mbit here in my apartment and i want 
>>> to make use of that as much as possible.
>>> So i will be connecting my airport extreme to the new connection.
>>> However i am wondering if the airport extreme is out of date as a good 
>>> router and if i should get me a new one instead?
>>> If i get a new router then support for OpenVpn is a must.
>>> So i ask if someone here can give me some advice?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Note that the interface for a new router of course has to be VoiceOver 
>>> friendly.
>>> The airport utility is one of the best i’ve seen so far.
>>> I know that there  are routers with Unix interfaces, but any tips are 
>>> welcome.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
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Re: New router or not?

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Hi Mary!
Thanks for your answer.
Well, the speed is ok but i have had a lot of dropouts and i guess this has to 
do with the airport.
I do want my airport express though as i have my stereo connected to that one.
I will dig google for more tests and answers.
/A

> 12 juni 2019 kl. 19:04 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> I can’t answer the question about open VPN. But I can’t say that the airport 
> extreme is definitely out of date. I had an airport extreme, and last year, I 
> replaced it with a mesh system, and the difference was amazing. I get solid 
> signal throughout my house. Wi-Fi speeds have dramatically increased. We 
> don’t have giga giga bit like what you’re going to have. But at least I am 
> now getting what I am paying for from my cable provider. The system I bought 
> was a Netgear Orby. It has one main router and two satellite. If you have an 
> apartment, you probably don’t need that. But getting something with better 
> throughput will certainly serve you well.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:20 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> We’re getting fibre connection at 1000 Mbit here in my apartment and i want 
>> to make use of that as much as possible.
>> So i will be connecting my airport extreme to the new connection.
>> However i am wondering if the airport extreme is out of date as a good 
>> router and if i should get me a new one instead?
>> If i get a new router then support for OpenVpn is a must.
>> So i ask if someone here can give me some advice?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Note that the interface for a new router of course has to be VoiceOver 
>> friendly.
>> The airport utility is one of the best i’ve seen so far.
>> I know that there  are routers with Unix interfaces, but any tips are 
>> welcome.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> /A
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Re: New router or not?

[Mary Otten]

I can’t answer the question about open VPN. But I can’t say that the airport 
extreme is definitely out of date. I had an airport extreme, and last year, I 
replaced it with a mesh system, and the difference was amazing. I get solid 
signal throughout my house. Wi-Fi speeds have dramatically increased. We don’t 
have giga giga bit like what you’re going to have. But at least I am now 
getting what I am paying for from my cable provider. The system I bought was a 
Netgear Orby. It has one main router and two satellite. If you have an 
apartment, you probably don’t need that. But getting something with better 
throughput will certainly serve you well.


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> On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:20 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> We’re getting fibre connection at 1000 Mbit here in my apartment and i want 
> to make use of that as much as possible.
> So i will be connecting my airport extreme to the new connection.
> However i am wondering if the airport extreme is out of date as a good router 
> and if i should get me a new one instead?
> If i get a new router then support for OpenVpn is a must.
> So i ask if someone here can give me some advice?
> Thanks in advance.
> Note that the interface for a new router of course has to be VoiceOver 
> friendly.
> The airport utility is one of the best i’ve seen so far.
> I know that there  are routers with Unix interfaces, but any tips are welcome.
> 
> Thanks.
> /A
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Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Wow  that seems to be a good test.
My headphones are shaking!
/A

> 12 juni 2019 kl. 08:44 skrev B G :
> 
> My apologies if below content strays off-topic. i heard this a short
> while ago and thought it would be a fun way of testing the quality of
> your speakers.  granted it is Youtube and therefore not your CD player
> (golly, giving away my age now in this age of streaming audio) but it
> should be sufficient to get a measure of the depth and range.  Here is
> the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU5rpnBxZnU
> 
> Awaiting your findings with bated breath.
> 
> Regards, ben
> 
> On 6/11/19, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
>> hello,
>> 
>> It was $30 approximately for the set. Actually 29 something plus tax.
>> 
>> if you go to Amazon.com and type in the following number it will get you
>> directly to the speakers
>> 
>> ASIN B075VBXGT2
>> 
>> 
>> hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 7:37 AM, CHUCK REICHEL
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dan,
>>> were they $30.00 for each speaker?
>>> Do you have a direct link to them?
>>> Always looking for small systems to test out mixes on. :)
>>> Thanks
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:17 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 
 hello,
 
 after looking around a while I found the following speaker system and I
 ordered it.
 
 R19U is equipped with Edifier's latest 2.75” full-range speaker unit,
 
 
 
 
 these are bookshelf speakers.
 
 USB powered and USB audio supplied.
 
 it has a jack and a complementary 3.5 mm male to male cord for other
 audio devices to play into the speakers. if anybody's interested I
 ordered this from Amazon.
 
 It should be here tomorrow.
 
 they cost around $30 US. so the reason I got these was because the USB
 connection supplies both power to the speakers and has the sound card for
 X ternal audio.
 
 Thus only using one connection.
 
 Will be interesting to see how these things work, I sure hope they do a
 good job.
 
 Dan
 
 
> On Jun 10, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:
> 
> I always use to like the mission argonaughts,
> Spelling might be off but they had a great sound to them, right across
> the board,
> 
> Not sure how they'd work though with a Mac Mini. -Original
> Message-
> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 8:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini
> 
> Hello,
> I'm also looking for good quality speakers for the mac mini.
> I am attempting to find USB speakers. Not just USB powered, but also
> using the USB connection for audio as well, not the 3.5 MM jack.
> I have found external sound cards. I've also found many USB powered
> speakers but they still use the 3.5 MM jack for the audio. Not what I
> want.
> I'm still looking.
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:12 PM, B G  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought I'd consult the list on this considering we screen-reader
>> users on average tend to be more selective about the quality of our
>> audio equipment. In short, I'm looking for either a decent set of
>> speakers or a monitor with a decent pair of built-in speakers. There's
>> 
>> a surprising dearth of quality gear in the market - on Amazon at any
>> rate. Can the list offer any recommendations?
>> Much obliged, Ben
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New router or not?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
We’re getting fibre connection at 1000 Mbit here in my apartment and i want to 
make use of that as much as possible.
So i will be connecting my airport extreme to the new connection.
However i am wondering if the airport extreme is out of date as a good router 
and if i should get me a new one instead?
If i get a new router then support for OpenVpn is a must.
So i ask if someone here can give me some advice?
Thanks in advance.
Note that the interface for a new router of course has to be VoiceOver friendly.
The airport utility is one of the best i’ve seen so far.
I know that there  are routers with Unix interfaces, but any tips are welcome.

Thanks.
/A

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Re: Importing multiple vcf files to ios plz?

[Ramy Moustafa]

 Aha great, but when i was trying to import it from mac, i hit import,  but did 
not see the contacts on my mac.

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
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> On Jun 12, 2019, at 4:09 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, that should work.  Although, if you're using his iCloud account, once 
> you import them into Contacts on your Mac, they will automatically be added 
> to their contacts on their iPhone without the need to eMail.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
> 
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 16:05, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
>> 
>> SOrry for asking again, if i can get all the VCF cards to 1 file,a and will 
>> send to him via mail, once he will click on it, it will be on his Contacts?
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 11:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, they would mix all in with your contacts and it would be frustrating.  
>> I suggest you create another user account on your Mac.  Then you can sign in 
>> with your friends iCloud account.  Once they imported into their iCloud 
>> contacts, it would be done.  No need to do any eMailing or messaging.  The 
>> contacts would simply sync up to iCloud and back over to their iPhone.
>> 
>> You could then sign out and delete the user account from your Mac and 
>> nothing will affect your user information at all.  If you are unfamiliar as 
>> how to create another user account on your Mac, let me know and I'll help.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 15:23, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
>> 
>> Aha great, but I do not want them to interfeer or be in my contacts, i need 
>> just to export them as 1 VCF  card and give it to my friend, will they be in 
>> my contacts or what?
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 11:09 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The only way I know how to do that is on your Mac.  You'd import them all 
>>> into the contacts app, then select them all to export.  When you export the 
>>> group of selected items, it will place them in one file with many cards 
>>> inside.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 14:52, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, but i have all the VCF files they are like 260 file.
>>> THe issue here is that i need to put them in 1 VCF file that can be read 
>>> with IOS.
>>> how?
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 No, they can be sent as one file of many vcf cards, or individually.  
 Individually would likely be painful, so I suggest the one file with many 
 vcf cards in it.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 
 
 
 Jamf Certified Associate
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 14:18, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
 <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
 
 Sorry for my miss understanding, but do you need him to send the VCF card 
 1 by 1 or what sorry?
 
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 4:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If the contact cards are exported to a multiple vcf file, then either 
> eMailed or iMessaged to the individual, they could then be brought into 
> the iPhone through the attached vcf file.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
> 
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 05:42, Ramy Moustafa  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> As this is a favor for one of my friends the whole Bosy new iPhone, he 
> needs to import all his VCF contacts to his iPhone. He does not have Mac 
> computers, so please I need to know if there is a way to do this via 
> iPhone? Or via windows. Thanks in advance
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Weird Safari Problem

[Ben Constantini]

Okay Mathew , I tried that , but will  try it again .
Ben Constantini
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> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:05 AM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi there, the one thing I can suggest is possibly clearing your cookies and 
> cache, and then try to login again.
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> God bless.
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> 
> 
> On Jun 12, 2019, at 09:55, N2KPV  > wrote:
> 
>> Recently I am having trouble logging into a website with my 2017 iMac  which 
>> is running  Mojave . Just for the heck of it I went to my late 2011 MacBook 
>> Pro and tried it . It logged right in . The MacBook is running El  Capitan . 
>>  Does anyone know of a setting that I should maybe change ? This one has me 
>> baffled . I have no problem logging into any other websites . The site by 
>> the way is the NJ Transit site .
>> 
>> Thanks in advance ,  Ben C.
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Re: Importing multiple vcf files to ios plz?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, that should work.  Although, if you're using his iCloud account, once you 
import them into Contacts on your Mac, they will automatically be added to 
their contacts on their iPhone without the need to eMail.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)



Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 11, 2019, at 16:05, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
<⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:

SOrry for asking again, if i can get all the VCF cards to 1 file,a and will 
send to him via mail, once he will click on it, it will be on his Contacts?
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 11:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, they would mix all in with your contacts and it would be frustrating.  I 
> suggest you create another user account on your Mac.  Then you can sign in 
> with your friends iCloud account.  Once they imported into their iCloud 
> contacts, it would be done.  No need to do any eMailing or messaging.  The 
> contacts would simply sync up to iCloud and back over to their iPhone.
> 
> You could then sign out and delete the user account from your Mac and nothing 
> will affect your user information at all.  If you are unfamiliar as how to 
> create another user account on your Mac, let me know and I'll help.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
> 
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 11, 2019, at 15:23, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
> 
> Aha great, but I do not want them to interfeer or be in my contacts, i need 
> just to export them as 1 VCF  card and give it to my friend, will they be in 
> my contacts or what?
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 11:09 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The only way I know how to do that is on your Mac.  You'd import them all 
>> into the contacts app, then select them all to export.  When you export the 
>> group of selected items, it will place them in one file with many cards 
>> inside.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 14:52, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, but i have all the VCF files they are like 260 file.
>> THe issue here is that i need to put them in 1 VCF file that can be read 
>> with IOS.
>> how?
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> No, they can be sent as one file of many vcf cards, or individually.  
>>> Individually would likely be painful, so I suggest the one file with many 
>>> vcf cards in it.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 14:18, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry for my miss understanding, but do you need him to send the VCF card 1 
>>> by 1 or what sorry?
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 4:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If the contact cards are exported to a multiple vcf file, then either 
 eMailed or iMessaged to the individual, they could then be brought into 
 the iPhone through the attached vcf file.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 
 
 
 Jamf Certified Associate
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 11, 2019, at 05:42, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all
 As this is a favor for one of my friends the whole Bosy new iPhone, he 
 needs to import all his VCF contacts to his iPhone. He does not have Mac 
 computers, so please I need to know if there is a way to do this via 
 iPhone? Or via windows. Thanks in advance
 
 Ramy moustafa saber
 licturer at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Weird Safari Problem

['Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries]

Hi there, the one thing I can suggest is possibly clearing your cookies and 
cache, and then try to login again.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens,
Certified assistive technology specialist
Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
Canadian phone: 519-962-9140
U.S. phone: 573-401-1018


> On Jun 12, 2019, at 09:55, N2KPV  wrote:
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> is running  Mojave . Just for the heck of it I went to my late 2011 MacBook 
> Pro and tried it . It logged right in . The MacBook is running El  Capitan .  
> Does anyone know of a setting that I should maybe change ? This one has me 
> baffled . I have no problem logging into any other websites . The site by the 
> way is the NJ Transit site .
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Weird Safari Problem

[N2KPV]

Recently I am having trouble logging into a website with my 2017 iMac 
 which is running  Mojave . Just for the heck of it I went to my late 2011 
MacBook Pro and tried it . It logged right in . The MacBook is running El 
 Capitan .  Does anyone know of a setting that I should maybe change ? This 
one has me baffled . I have no problem logging into any other websites . 
The site by the way is the NJ Transit site .

Thanks in advance ,  Ben C.

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Re: new mac books

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

You can always use an external keyboard while it's at home or at your workplace 
on a desk (either Bluetooth or USB).

On 6/11/19, 02:22, "Simon Fogarty"  wrote:

Thanks Janina,

 I'll let you know how it goes.

 Simon F


-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 4:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new mac books

So, good luck with it, Simon! May you be pleasantly surprised.

Best,

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
>  To late,
> 
> I've grabbed the 16GB I7 pro and as for the keyboard well that's 
something I can't get around as apple don't make a better option.
> If I get stuck I'll just make changes with a hot stick or something.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Monday, 10 June 2019 1:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new mac books
> 
> Hi, Simon:
> 
> Being limited to 8Gb RAM might be a problem if you're running Win10, and 
especially if running in a vm.
> 
> But, I should think a keyboard you don't like would be even worse.
> 
> Can you hold out to see what comes from Apple later in the year? A lot of 
people are having issues with the newer keyboards. Seems reasonable Apple will 
do something about those complaints.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > Hi Janina,
> > 
> >  That' my thoughts also,
> > 
> >  I can get a 2017 13" air for 2504 NZ dollars,  But it's got the 
> > custom build with 8gb ram, 2.2GHz I7 processor and 512GB ram, Oh and 
> > it's got the older keyboard style, But now I'm thinking I should 
> > just go for a newer pro and get use to the new butterfly keyboard as 
I'm guessing it's not going anywhere quickly.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> > Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:20 AM
> > To: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> > Subject: Re: new mac books
> > 
> > Thanks very much for this info, Shawn.
> > 
> > 
> > These days I'm preferring the smallest and lightest physical unit I can 
get packed to the teeth with RAM, CPU, and SSD. So, a 2017 Air might just be 
the ticket.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries writes:
> > > I should've said the 2017 MacBook Air did the startup chime in Mojave 
which is what I have.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Jun 3, 2019, at 11:03 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Janina. In Mojave, the 2017 models did make the startup chime. 
I'm currently beta testing Catalina which is 10.15 so I can't say if it's still 
there or not.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >> On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:45 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> I'm also interested in this question and wondering whether the
> > > >> 2017 models still have the boot chime?
> > > >> 
> > > >> Janina
> > > >> 
> > > >> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > > >>> Hi Listers,
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> It's looking like I'm going to have to replace  my mid 2013 11" 
> > > >>> MacBookAir,
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Currently the closest replacement would be the still currently 
> > > >>> available 2017 version of the mac book air, Apart from only 
> > > >>> being able to have 16GB ram in them it's an ok machine if 
> > > >>> spec'ed out completely,
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> However what I'm really wondering is if it's really possible for 
apple to put the older non butterfly keyboard in to something in the mac book 
pro range?
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> I've been using a mac book pro 2018 for almost a year and I still 
can't get use to the keys on the keyboard.
> > > >>> Preferring my 11" MBA keyboard.
> > > >>> Does anyone know if there is such a customize option for the mac 
book line?
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Re: Screen reader support for Office 365 on Macs

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

An issue discussed on this list once before was the difficulty of returning to 
one's place in a Microsoft Word file after reading a comment.

On 6/11/19, 04:03, "Julie Rattray"  wrote:

Hi,

I have been trying to use MS Teams with limited success I know there are 
some VO commands and I haven’t used it much but I don’t find it hugely 
intuitive and find it hard to navigate - this of course could be me as I 
haven’t given it much of a chance but any help would be welcome and raising it 
as a general issue would be good - one issue I have is changing channels and 
then trying to get to different views - colleagues keep telling me they have 
put documents on Teams but I can’t work out how to find them   

> On 11 Jun 2019, at 03:22, Antonio Guimaraes  
wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am back with the same problem I had 7 months ago. Not that anyone will 
remember, but I could not read by column title when navigating in Excel. I am 
compiling a list of things that do not work so I can make the case at one of 
this year's consumer conventions that this be addressed.
> 
> I would appreciate any input about features in any of the Office 365 
products that do not work, can not be performed with VoiceOver on the Mac.
> 
> If you think these products are adequate on the Mac side, let me know, 
too.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Antonio
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converting csv file to vcf, or what?

[Ramy Moustafa]

all:
I was having a big excel cheat for all my business contacts, someone converted 
it to csv file, and it can be imported to google contacts, but doing that is 
not accessible, so, i need to import this file to my contacts on ios, how?

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
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Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

[B G]

My apologies if below content strays off-topic. i heard this a short
while ago and thought it would be a fun way of testing the quality of
your speakers.  granted it is Youtube and therefore not your CD player
(golly, giving away my age now in this age of streaming audio) but it
should be sufficient to get a measure of the depth and range.  Here is
the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU5rpnBxZnU

Awaiting your findings with bated breath.

Regards, ben

On 6/11/19, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
> hello,
>
> It was $30 approximately for the set. Actually 29 something plus tax.
>
> if you go to Amazon.com and type in the following number it will get you
> directly to the speakers
>
> ASIN  B075VBXGT2
>
>
> hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 7:37 AM, CHUCK REICHEL
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>> were they $30.00 for each speaker?
>> Do you have a direct link to them?
>> Always looking for small systems to test out mixes on. :)
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:17 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> after looking around a while I found the following speaker system and I
>>> ordered it.
>>>
>>> R19U is equipped with Edifier's latest 2.75” full-range speaker unit,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> these are bookshelf speakers.
>>>
>>> USB powered and USB audio supplied.
>>>
>>> it has a jack and a complementary 3.5 mm male to male cord for other
>>> audio devices to play into the speakers. if anybody's interested I
>>> ordered this from Amazon.
>>>
>>> It should be here tomorrow.
>>>
>>> they cost around $30 US. so the reason I got these was because the USB
>>> connection supplies both power to the speakers and has the sound card for
>>> X ternal audio.
>>>
>>> Thus only using one connection.
>>>
>>> Will be interesting to see how these things work, I sure hope they do a
>>> good job.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
 On Jun 10, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Simon Fogarty 
 wrote:

 I always use to like the mission argonaughts,
 Spelling might be off but they had a great sound to them, right across
 the board,

 Not sure how they'd work though with a Mac Mini. -Original
 Message-
 From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 8:55 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

 Hello,
 I'm also looking for good quality speakers for the mac mini.
 I am attempting to find USB speakers. Not just USB powered, but also
 using the USB connection for audio as well, not the 3.5 MM jack.
 I have found external sound cards. I've also found many USB powered
 speakers but they still use the 3.5 MM jack for the audio. Not what I
 want.
 I'm still looking.
 Any suggestions?




 Dan


> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:12 PM, B G  wrote:
>
> I thought I'd consult the list on this considering we screen-reader
> users on average tend to be more selective about the quality of our
> audio equipment. In short, I'm looking for either a decent set of
> speakers or a monitor with a decent pair of built-in speakers. There's
>
> a surprising dearth of quality gear in the market - on Amazon at any
> rate. Can the list offer any recommendations?
> Much obliged, Ben
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