For sale: late 2018 six core I7 MacBook pro with accessories...

[Cameron Strife]

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RE: Touch Bar Was: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’ve heard it doesn’t but that’s only due to driver incompatibility

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Have no idea. If I venture that direction, I plan to go with VMWare Fusion.

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RE: Touch Bar Was: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

[Simon A Fogarty]

I probably don’t like it due to not having used it a lot.

But I’m not changing my mind on the keyboard and and I’m using that everyday.

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agree with dave.
i have come to like the touch bar quite a bit for the reasons listed in dave’s 
message.


On 14 Nov 2019, at 1:59 pm, Dave Carlson 
mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:



Simon,
It’s actually very easy to use. You can either touch an area by guess and 
golly, or just swipe across to reveal the function keys there. What’s nice, is 
that you get a preview of what the keys are before you do a double tap. Having 
physical function keys give you no clue as to what each will do until you press 
it.
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Re: Touch Bar Was: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

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Have no idea. If I venture that direction, I plan to go with VMWare Fusion.

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Re: Touch Bar Was: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

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How does the Touch Bar work with windows and Boot Camp? That seems like 
something we would need physical function keys.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Simon,
> It’s actually very easy to use. You can either touch an area by guess and 
> golly, or just swipe across to reveal the function keys there. What’s nice, 
> is that you get a preview of what the keys are before you do a double tap. 
> Having physical function keys give you no clue as to what each will do until 
> you press it.
> Dave Carlson
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Re: Touch Bar Was: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

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agree with dave.
i have come to like the touch bar quite a bit for the reasons listed in dave’s 
message.

> On 14 Nov 2019, at 1:59 pm, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Simon,
> It’s actually very easy to use. You can either touch an area by guess and 
> golly, or just swipe across to reveal the function keys there. What’s nice, 
> is that you get a preview of what the keys are before you do a double tap. 
> Having physical function keys give you no clue as to what each will do until 
> you press it.
> Dave Carlson
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Re: Touch Bar Was: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

[Dave Carlson]

Simon,
It’s actually very easy to use. You can either touch an area by guess and 
golly, or just swipe across to reveal the function keys there. What’s nice, is 
that you get a preview of what the keys are before you do a double tap. Having 
physical function keys give you no clue as to what each will do until you press 
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RE: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

[Simon A Fogarty]

Well really I still think they need a new keyboard on the device 

I'm not a fan of the butterfly keyboards even though I have a notebook with one 
-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2019 1:45 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks 
With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

Yeah, Only twelve more keys to go.
And, MagSafe of course, but this alone is a very good start back in the right 
direction.

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 17:39, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> You mean with the touch bar they have brought the escape key back?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> A bit of Mac news worth mentioning:
> The physical escape key is back.
> 
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/11/13/16-inch-macbook-pro-features-applecare-more/
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RE: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

[Simon A Fogarty]

Go figure,

I can’t figure the touch bar out,
But I think Petrus has one on his mac book pro and he deals with it pretty well 
I believe.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2019 2:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks 
With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

Yeah, and I don’t think they re -introduced the escape key for us blindies, I’m 
guessing too many sighted people were accidentally touching the virtual escape 
key on the Touch Bar and getting annoyed by it.


On 14/11/2019, at 13:45, Barry Hadder 
mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yeah, Only twelve more keys to go.
And, MagSafe of course, but this alone is a very good start back in the right 
direction.


On Nov 13, 2019, at 17:39, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

You mean with the touch bar they have brought the escape key back?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Barry Hadder
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 
720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

A bit of Mac news worth mentioning:
The physical escape key is back.


https://www.macrumors.com/2019/11/13/16-inch-macbook-pro-features-applecare-more/
 


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Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Yeah, and I don’t think they re -introduced the escape key for us blindies, I’m 
guessing too many sighted people were accidentally touching the virtual escape 
key on the Touch Bar and getting annoyed by it.  

> On 14/11/2019, at 13:45, Barry Hadder  wrote:
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> Yeah, Only twelve more keys to go.
> And, MagSafe of course, but this alone is a very good start back in the right 
> direction.
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>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 17:39, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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>> You mean with the touch bar they have brought the escape key back?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:15 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks 
>> With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors
>> 
>> A bit of Mac news worth mentioning:
>> The physical escape key is back.
>> 
>>> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/11/13/16-inch-macbook-pro-features-applecare-more/
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Re: Delete text with VoiceOver in Catalina.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Ignore my last message, I quit the messages app and restarted my Mac, and the 
phantom new message has gone.

> On 14/11/2019, at 06:15, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
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> Sorry, I’ve not come across this. Maybe email accessibil...@apple.com 
>  about it.
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:09 AM, 'Gary Price' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone!
>> 
>> I've recently upgraded to Mac OS Catalina.
>> I've noticed a possible serious bug with VoiceOver.
>> When typing text into messages for example, VoiceOver says absolutely 
>> nothing when pressing the Backspace key.
>> But it worked absolutely fine in Mojave.
>> 
>> I've just noticed something interesting it works fine in Mail.
>> 
>> Has anyone on here noticed this?
>> I have submitted a comment to Applevis, but had no response yet.
>> 
>> Thanks very much, I look forward to any responses.
>> Gary Price
>> Sent from my 13 inch Mac book pro.
>> 
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Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

[Barry Hadder]

Yeah, Only twelve more keys to go.
And, MagSafe of course, but this alone is a very good start back in the right 
direction.

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 17:39, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> You mean with the touch bar they have brought the escape key back?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors
> 
> A bit of Mac news worth mentioning:
> The physical escape key is back.
> 
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/11/13/16-inch-macbook-pro-features-applecare-more/
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Re: Delete text with VoiceOver in Catalina.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I just thought about one thing, VoiceOver can have different quirks depending 
on the voice used and the language. Speaking of the messages App on the Mac, My 
messages app on the Mac keeps telling me it has one unread message even though 
I’ve checked and there are none to be found. This has only been telling me this 
since I upgraded to Catalina. 

> On 14/11/2019, at 06:15, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
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> Sorry, I’ve not come across this. Maybe email accessibil...@apple.com 
>  about it.
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:09 AM, 'Gary Price' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone!
>> 
>> I've recently upgraded to Mac OS Catalina.
>> I've noticed a possible serious bug with VoiceOver.
>> When typing text into messages for example, VoiceOver says absolutely 
>> nothing when pressing the Backspace key.
>> But it worked absolutely fine in Mojave.
>> 
>> I've just noticed something interesting it works fine in Mail.
>> 
>> Has anyone on here noticed this?
>> I have submitted a comment to Applevis, but had no response yet.
>> 
>> Thanks very much, I look forward to any responses.
>> Gary Price
>> Sent from my 13 inch Mac book pro.
>> 
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>> garypric...@icloud.com 
>> 
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RE: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

[Simon A Fogarty]

You mean with the touch bar they have brought the escape key back?

-Original Message-
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 
720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

A bit of Mac news worth mentioning:
The physical escape key is back.

> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/11/13/16-inch-macbook-pro-features-applecare-more/
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RE: Moving away from direct TV! Whats the best alternative thats VoiceOver friendly? Apple TV?

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Directv Now, Youtube TV, Hulu, and Filo are good.
Also indoor anennah.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Moving away from direct TV! Whats the best alternative thats VoiceOver 
friendly? Apple TV?

Hi List,
Subject says it all.
Looking for an alternative to direct TV and the other cable alternatives.
Is an Appel Smart TV the best option for VoiceOver?
Thanks
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Re: Delete text with VoiceOver in Catalina.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Interesting, I’ve not managed to recreate this bug, it all seems to be working 
normally at my end,
Petrus 

> On 14/11/2019, at 06:09, 'Gary Price' via MacVisionaries 
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> But it worked absolutely fine in Mojave.
> 
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> 
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> I have submitted a comment to Applevis, but had no response yet.
> 
> Thanks very much, I look forward to any responses.
> Gary Price
> Sent from my 13 inch Mac book pro.
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16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi - MacRumors

[Barry Hadder]

A bit of Mac news worth mentioning:
The physical escape key is back.

> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/11/13/16-inch-macbook-pro-features-applecare-more/
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Re: Searching in mail.

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi,

Don't know if its working if the search field isn’t at the Toolbar, but to 
search mailboxes you need to push cmd+option+F.
That's the way I do it for as long as I know.

Ronald



> Op 11 nov. 2019, om 12:51 heeft Anders Holmberg  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Folks!
> In Mojave i had no problems searching in a mailbox from the toolbar.
> I want to find a specific mail i have saved.
> Now the search seems gone from the toolbar but i guess you can find that mail 
> by pressing cmd f.
> I have tried that but have no luck.
> Should i stand in the list of mails or doesn’t that matter?
> I am not really friend with Catalina yet to be honnest.
> /A
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Hiding Mac Apps

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Revisiting this one. In the Mac app srore, under Store, View my 
account, in the Purchased area, one can redownload, open, or hide an app.


   Under Mojave and Catalina, the only choice is redownload or open. 
The menu that has the hide item is not accessible with Voiceover. Has 
anyone been able to access this menu?


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Re: Delete text with VoiceOver in Catalina.

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

Sorry, I’ve not come across this. Maybe email accessibil...@apple.com 
 about it.

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:09 AM, 'Gary Price' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi everyone!
> 
> I've recently upgraded to Mac OS Catalina.
> I've noticed a possible serious bug with VoiceOver.
> When typing text into messages for example, VoiceOver says absolutely nothing 
> when pressing the Backspace key.
> But it worked absolutely fine in Mojave.
> 
> I've just noticed something interesting it works fine in Mail.
> 
> Has anyone on here noticed this?
> I have submitted a comment to Applevis, but had no response yet.
> 
> Thanks very much, I look forward to any responses.
> Gary Price
> Sent from my 13 inch Mac book pro.
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Delete text with VoiceOver in Catalina.

['Gary Price' via MacVisionaries]

Hi everyone!

I've recently upgraded to Mac OS Catalina.
I've noticed a possible serious bug with VoiceOver.
When typing text into messages for example, VoiceOver says absolutely nothing 
when pressing the Backspace key.
But it worked absolutely fine in Mojave.

I've just noticed something interesting it works fine in Mail.

Has anyone on here noticed this?
I have submitted a comment to Applevis, but had no response yet.

Thanks very much, I look forward to any responses.
Gary Price
Sent from my 13 inch Mac book pro.

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Moving away from direct TV! Whats the best alternative thats VoiceOver friendly? Apple TV?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi List,
Subject says it all.
Looking for an alternative to direct TV and the other cable alternatives.
Is an Appel Smart TV the best option for VoiceOver?
Thanks
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Re: Fan runs on hi speed when Installed catalina.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, then i will check that.
I think dictation is turned on here.
Thanks for your help.
/A

> 13 nov. 2019 kl. 00:24 skrev 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Anders,  I found the  same thing with my MacBook air too initially.  I’d 
> turned on voice control, just to check it out, and see if i had much use for 
> it, or could use it with VO, and I found that  the dictation process, was 
> like eating up have my CPU.  switching off voice control did the  trick.   
> the fan slowed right down.  Not sure  if you’ve got that, or some aspect of 
> dictation enabled, but if you do, you might try turning that  off, and see if 
> that  calms things down.  
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> After i upgraded to Catalina my fan on my Macbook air has become very active 
>> even when its not needed.
>> SO i checked with the activity control and VoiceoVer  takes 56% of processor 
>> usage.
>> There’s also a service called something like accessibilityview that takes up 
>> 55% of processor usage.
>> So i decided to reset the pram in order to stop this.
>> BUt it seems that it doesn’t help.
>> Are there some things i can do before i decide to reinstall the OS?
>> I don’t know why this behaviour occures but it does.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> /A
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Printing to a hp laserjet does not work.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
My friend wanted to print a very large pdf file from preview.
So we connected my Hp laserjet to the macbook air i have and the printer shws 
up in the printers pain but i can’t send files to it.
The printer is turned on and the light on the printer shows a green collour.
When i check in settings the printer is idle.
The printing queue is empty.
I am thinking that it needs some drivers but i thought apple had included 
drivers for most popular printers.
So any thoughts are welcome.
Thanks in advance.
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