Re: Word Processors recommendation

[Eric Caron]

Thanks folks,

This has been very helpful.

My documents tend to be pretty simple, though they can get long. 

Text edit seemed to handle reading and saving back as a doc file.  

Also, Pages seems pretty responsive and I seem to be finding my way around 
pretty well.

I was originally planning on getting the 365 to try but now I’m tempted to use 
these two word processors and see how that goes. 

The info has been very helpful.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 10, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Text Edit is a nice option but it is pretty basic.  I have also experienced 
> issues with MS Word documents loosing certain types of formatting, such as 
> numbering and other formatting options that are not supported by Text Edit.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2020, at 13:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use Pages and TextEdit.  I forgot to mention TextEdit before.  It can open 
> and save to Word, although you can't do as fancy of formatting as in Word or 
> Pages.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 10, 2020, at 13:50, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim and others,
>> 
>>  My current computer only version of Microsoft Word application seems to 
>> have some glitches.  The longer my documents are the more issues that seem 
>> to crop up.  Mostly focus issues.
>> 
>> Pages being an Apple product, I’m hoping would be a better experience, but 
>> then I have the export issues.
>> 
>> Microsoft 365 is unknown to me, but I’ve not found getting the exchange 
>> account a easy process and am concerned I get the product to find it is 
>> glitchy.
>>  I’m reassured with the comment that it is accessible. 
>> 
>> I’d love to know what word processors Mac-Visionaries are using?  
>> 
>> I want to keep my documents simple and having a mix of Dox and Pages isn’t 
>> appealing, however, Pages might be the more reliable package and worth the 
>> extra steps when needed. 
>> 
>> Are there any special advantages to Microsoft 365 I might not know about?
>> 
>> So, what is the word processor my fellow Mac users on list rely on?
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Pages, Keynote and Numbers are all totally accessible.  If you plan on 
>>> sharing a document created in Pages with someone who is a Microsoft Office 
>>> user, then you'll still need to export it to a Word document (.DOCX).  
>>> Pages is an Apple product, not a Microsoft product and thus I doubt that 
>>> this will ever change.  Office 365 is quite accessible on the Mac.  Others 
>>> may be able to give you more specifics, but it is totally usable now from a 
>>> VO prospective.  Pages is free, so deciding whether you wish to purchase a 
>>> subscription to Office 365 vs using Apple's suite is your call.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:16, Eric Caron >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.
>>> 
>>> I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 
>>> bit and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my 
>>> copy many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I 
>>> accidentally selected the 34 bit version.
>>> 
>>> I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
>>> work. 
>>> 
>>> So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 
>>> 
>>> What is the word processor of choice these days?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
>>> need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 
>>> 
>>> What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 
>>> 
>>> My concern is was of use and ability to share documents as a doc or similar 
>>> file.  
>>> It was frustrating to have to export in Pages every time I wanted to share 
>>> a file with someone. 
>>> 
>>> Still my day to day work is almost all Mac now.
>>> 
>>> Before purchasing Microsoft 365 I thought I’d check in.  
>>> Thoughts and tips appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: backblaze and voiceover

[Eric Caron]

Hi Jean,

Years ago I started using Carbon Copy Cloner.  At the time it was free. 
 Then it moved to a payed model.  I’ve been using it ever sense.  It is 
accessible.  It makes a bootable copy on a external drive. 

I have only once had to use it to completely restore my hard drive, but 
it worked and was well worth having it. 

It can also be used to retrieve files from past backups. 

I just mention it as I’ve had good luck with it.  But, I have not investigated 
other options in many years. 

Please keep responses on list, as that is how we all learn.


Best,

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 10, 2020, at 5:25 PM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
> Hello All:
> 
> I am considering purchasing Backblaze and have some questions. I am a bit 
> hesitant because they do not publish a customer support phone number and they 
> don't say anything about accessibility on their web site. Thus, I would like 
> to hear from the group about your experiences as follows:
> 
> 1. I did the preliminary backup as part of the 15 day free trial. I found the 
> interface to select drives tricky to use so I am not sure exactly what is 
> selected for backup and what is excluded.
> 
> 2. Naturally, the ultimate objective of having such a service is to be able 
> to restore files in case of a problem. I went to the view and restore files 
> interface but was also not able to find things like documents, desktop, 
> downloads etc. How does this work and is the restore process accessible? If 
> so, how is it done with voiceover?
> 
> 3. What is people's experience with their customer support? Are they 
> responsive? Do they have enough knowledge to be conversant about how to 
> perform functions using voiceover?
> 
> Replying off list is fine in order to reduce clutter on the list. My email is:
> radioforever @gmail.com
> 
> Many thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> Jean
> 
> 
> 
> Jean Parker, Ph.D.
> www.buildingresilience.global
> Check out my book
> “Emergency Preparedness Through Community Cohesion: An Integral Approach To 
> Resilience:
> available in ebook and hard-back
> https://www.routledge.com/Emergency-Preparedness-through-Community-Cohesion-An-Integral-Approach/Parker/p/book/9781138327887?utm_source=outlook_medium=email_campaign=B190507833
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backblaze and voiceover

[jean parker]

Hello All:

I am considering purchasing Backblaze and have some questions. I am a bit 
hesitant because they do not publish a customer support phone number and they 
don't say anything about accessibility on their web site. Thus, I would like to 
hear from the group about your experiences as follows:

1. I did the preliminary backup as part of the 15 day free trial. I found the 
interface to select drives tricky to use so I am not sure exactly what is 
selected for backup and what is excluded.

2. Naturally, the ultimate objective of having such a service is to be able to 
restore files in case of a problem. I went to the view and restore files 
interface but was also not able to find things like documents, desktop, 
downloads etc. How does this work and is the restore process accessible? If so, 
how is it done with voiceover?

3. What is people's experience with their customer support? Are they 
responsive? Do they have enough knowledge to be conversant about how to perform 
functions using voiceover?

Replying off list is fine in order to reduce clutter on the list. My email is:
radioforever @gmail.com

Many thanks in advance for your help.

Jean



Jean Parker, Ph.D.
www.buildingresilience.global
Check out my book
“Emergency Preparedness Through Community Cohesion: An Integral Approach To 
Resilience:
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Re: Word Processors recommendation

[Bradford Snyder]

Text Edit is a nice option but it is pretty basic.  I have also experienced 
issues with MS Word documents loosing certain types of formatting, such as 
numbering and other formatting options that are not supported by Text Edit.

- Brad -



On Mar 10, 2020, at 13:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

I use Pages and TextEdit.  I forgot to mention TextEdit before.  It can open 
and save to Word, although you can't do as fancy of formatting as in Word or 
Pages.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 10, 2020, at 13:50, Eric Caron mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:



> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and others,
> 
>   My current computer only version of Microsoft Word application seems to 
> have some glitches.  The longer my documents are the more issues that seem to 
> crop up.  Mostly focus issues.
> 
> Pages being an Apple product, I’m hoping would be a better experience, but 
> then I have the export issues.
> 
> Microsoft 365 is unknown to me, but I’ve not found getting the exchange 
> account a easy process and am concerned I get the product to find it is 
> glitchy.
>  I’m reassured with the comment that it is accessible. 
> 
> I’d love to know what word processors Mac-Visionaries are using?  
> 
> I want to keep my documents simple and having a mix of Dox and Pages isn’t 
> appealing, however, Pages might be the more reliable package and worth the 
> extra steps when needed. 
> 
> Are there any special advantages to Microsoft 365 I might not know about?
> 
> So, what is the word processor my fellow Mac users on list rely on?
> 
> Eric Caron 
>   
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Pages, Keynote and Numbers are all totally accessible.  If you plan on 
>> sharing a document created in Pages with someone who is a Microsoft Office 
>> user, then you'll still need to export it to a Word document (.DOCX).  Pages 
>> is an Apple product, not a Microsoft product and thus I doubt that this will 
>> ever change.  Office 365 is quite accessible on the Mac.  Others may be able 
>> to give you more specifics, but it is totally usable now from a VO 
>> prospective.  Pages is free, so deciding whether you wish to purchase a 
>> subscription to Office 365 vs using Apple's suite is your call.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:16, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.
>> 
>> I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 
>> bit and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my 
>> copy many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I 
>> accidentally selected the 34 bit version.
>> 
>> I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
>> work. 
>> 
>> So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the word processor of choice these days?
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
>> need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 
>> 
>> My concern is was of use and ability to share documents as a doc or similar 
>> file.  
>> It was frustrating to have to export in Pages every time I wanted to share a 
>> file with someone. 
>> 
>> Still my day to day work is almost all Mac now.
>> 
>> Before purchasing Microsoft 365 I thought I’d check in.  
>> Thoughts and tips appreciated!
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
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Re: Word Processors recommendation

[Bradford Snyder]

Hi Eric,

Pages, Numbers and Keynote are all very nice apps and are very accessible with 
VoiceOver, but the majority of the world uses MS Office, so unless you want to 
constantly swim upstream, MS Office is the way to go.
I have been using Office 365 on both my Macs for 5 years and have found it to e 
very accessible using VoiceOver.  Granted, I mostly use MS Word and have only 
used Excel infrequently.
The price for one computer is $6.99 per month or $69.99 per year.  I have 
several computers, so I go with the option that lets me use Office on up to 5 
computers for $9.99 per month or $99.99 per year.  You also get regular updates 
at no additional expense.

Like everything else, there will be lots of opinions on this, so it is up to 
you to decide what is the best option for your situation.

HTH

- Brad -



On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:50, Eric Caron  wrote:



> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and others,
> 
>   My current computer only version of Microsoft Word application seems to 
> have some glitches.  The longer my documents are the more issues that seem to 
> crop up.  Mostly focus issues.
> 
> Pages being an Apple product, I’m hoping would be a better experience, but 
> then I have the export issues.
> 
> Microsoft 365 is unknown to me, but I’ve not found getting the exchange 
> account a easy process and am concerned I get the product to find it is 
> glitchy.
>  I’m reassured with the comment that it is accessible. 
> 
> I’d love to know what word processors Mac-Visionaries are using?  
> 
> I want to keep my documents simple and having a mix of Dox and Pages isn’t 
> appealing, however, Pages might be the more reliable package and worth the 
> extra steps when needed. 
> 
> Are there any special advantages to Microsoft 365 I might not know about?
> 
> So, what is the word processor my fellow Mac users on list rely on?
> 
> Eric Caron 
>   
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Pages, Keynote and Numbers are all totally accessible.  If you plan on 
>> sharing a document created in Pages with someone who is a Microsoft Office 
>> user, then you'll still need to export it to a Word document (.DOCX).  Pages 
>> is an Apple product, not a Microsoft product and thus I doubt that this will 
>> ever change.  Office 365 is quite accessible on the Mac.  Others may be able 
>> to give you more specifics, but it is totally usable now from a VO 
>> prospective.  Pages is free, so deciding whether you wish to purchase a 
>> subscription to Office 365 vs using Apple's suite is your call.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:16, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.
>> 
>> I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 
>> bit and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my 
>> copy many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I 
>> accidentally selected the 34 bit version.
>> 
>> I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
>> work. 
>> 
>> So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the word processor of choice these days?
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
>> need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 
>> 
>> My concern is was of use and ability to share documents as a doc or similar 
>> file.  
>> It was frustrating to have to export in Pages every time I wanted to share a 
>> file with someone. 
>> 
>> Still my day to day work is almost all Mac now.
>> 
>> Before purchasing Microsoft 365 I thought I’d check in.  
>> Thoughts and tips appreciated!
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
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>> Visionaries list.
>> 
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Re: Word Processors recommendation

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I use Pages and TextEdit.  I forgot to mention TextEdit before.  It can open 
and save to Word, although you can't do as fancy of formatting as in Word or 
Pages.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 10, 2020, at 13:50, Eric Caron  wrote:



> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and others,
> 
>   My current computer only version of Microsoft Word application seems to 
> have some glitches.  The longer my documents are the more issues that seem to 
> crop up.  Mostly focus issues.
> 
> Pages being an Apple product, I’m hoping would be a better experience, but 
> then I have the export issues.
> 
> Microsoft 365 is unknown to me, but I’ve not found getting the exchange 
> account a easy process and am concerned I get the product to find it is 
> glitchy.
>  I’m reassured with the comment that it is accessible. 
> 
> I’d love to know what word processors Mac-Visionaries are using?  
> 
> I want to keep my documents simple and having a mix of Dox and Pages isn’t 
> appealing, however, Pages might be the more reliable package and worth the 
> extra steps when needed. 
> 
> Are there any special advantages to Microsoft 365 I might not know about?
> 
> So, what is the word processor my fellow Mac users on list rely on?
> 
> Eric Caron 
>   
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Pages, Keynote and Numbers are all totally accessible.  If you plan on 
>> sharing a document created in Pages with someone who is a Microsoft Office 
>> user, then you'll still need to export it to a Word document (.DOCX).  Pages 
>> is an Apple product, not a Microsoft product and thus I doubt that this will 
>> ever change.  Office 365 is quite accessible on the Mac.  Others may be able 
>> to give you more specifics, but it is totally usable now from a VO 
>> prospective.  Pages is free, so deciding whether you wish to purchase a 
>> subscription to Office 365 vs using Apple's suite is your call.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:16, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.
>> 
>> I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 
>> bit and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my 
>> copy many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I 
>> accidentally selected the 34 bit version.
>> 
>> I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
>> work. 
>> 
>> So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the word processor of choice these days?
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
>> need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 
>> 
>> My concern is was of use and ability to share documents as a doc or similar 
>> file.  
>> It was frustrating to have to export in Pages every time I wanted to share a 
>> file with someone. 
>> 
>> Still my day to day work is almost all Mac now.
>> 
>> Before purchasing Microsoft 365 I thought I’d check in.  
>> Thoughts and tips appreciated!
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
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Re: Word Processors recommendation

[Eric Caron]

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and others,
> 
>   My current computer only version of Microsoft Word application seems to 
> have some glitches.  The longer my documents are the more issues that seem to 
> crop up.  Mostly focus issues.
> 
> Pages being an Apple product, I’m hoping would be a better experience, but 
> then I have the export issues.
> 
> Microsoft 365 is unknown to me, but I’ve not found getting the exchange 
> account a easy process and am concerned I get the product to find it is 
> glitchy.
>  I’m reassured with the comment that it is accessible. 
> 
> I’d love to know what word processors Mac-Visionaries are using?  
> 
> I want to keep my documents simple and having a mix of Dox and Pages isn’t 
> appealing, however, Pages might be the more reliable package and worth the 
> extra steps when needed. 
> 
> Are there any special advantages to Microsoft 365 I might not know about?
> 
> So, what is the word processor my fellow Mac users on list rely on?
> 
> Eric Caron 
>   
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Pages, Keynote and Numbers are all totally accessible.  If you plan on 
>> sharing a document created in Pages with someone who is a Microsoft Office 
>> user, then you'll still need to export it to a Word document (.DOCX).  Pages 
>> is an Apple product, not a Microsoft product and thus I doubt that this will 
>> ever change.  Office 365 is quite accessible on the Mac.  Others may be able 
>> to give you more specifics, but it is totally usable now from a VO 
>> prospective.  Pages is free, so deciding whether you wish to purchase a 
>> subscription to Office 365 vs using Apple's suite is your call.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:16, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.
>> 
>> I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 
>> bit and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my 
>> copy many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I 
>> accidentally selected the 34 bit version.
>> 
>> I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
>> work. 
>> 
>> So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the word processor of choice these days?
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
>> need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 
>> 
>> My concern is was of use and ability to share documents as a doc or similar 
>> file.  
>> It was frustrating to have to export in Pages every time I wanted to share a 
>> file with someone. 
>> 
>> Still my day to day work is almost all Mac now.
>> 
>> Before purchasing Microsoft 365 I thought I’d check in.  
>> Thoughts and tips appreciated!
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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Re: Word Processors recommendation

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Pages, Keynote and Numbers are all totally accessible.  If you plan on sharing 
a document created in Pages with someone who is a Microsoft Office user, then 
you'll still need to export it to a Word document (.DOCX).  Pages is an Apple 
product, not a Microsoft product and thus I doubt that this will ever change.  
Office 365 is quite accessible on the Mac.  Others may be able to give you more 
specifics, but it is totally usable now from a VO prospective.  Pages is free, 
so deciding whether you wish to purchase a subscription to Office 365 vs using 
Apple's suite is your call.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:16, Eric Caron  wrote:

Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.

I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 bit 
and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my copy 
many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I accidentally 
selected the 34 bit version.

I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
work. 

So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 

What is the word processor of choice these days?


Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 

What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 

My concern is was of use and ability to share documents as a doc or similar 
file.  
It was frustrating to have to export in Pages every time I wanted to share a 
file with someone. 

Still my day to day work is almost all Mac now.

Before purchasing Microsoft 365 I thought I’d check in.  
Thoughts and tips appreciated!

Eric Caron 

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Word Processors recommendation

[Eric Caron]

Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.

I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 bit 
and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my copy 
many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I accidentally 
selected the 34 bit version.

I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
work. 

So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 

What is the word processor of choice these days?


Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 

What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 

My concern is was of use and ability to share documents as a doc or similar 
file.  
It was frustrating to have to export in Pages every time I wanted to share a 
file with someone. 

Still my day to day work is almost all Mac now.

Before purchasing Microsoft 365 I thought I’d check in.  
Thoughts and tips appreciated!

Eric Caron 

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Re: After upgrading to Catalina there's no sound when pasting an attachment into body of email

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

In Sierra, there’s a sound when I paste an attachment into the body of an email 
message and Voiceover indeed announces the name of the attachment.  In Catalina 
neither occurs.

Andrew
> On 9 Mar 2020, at 22:55, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't recall there being one in the past either.  I wonder if it was a 
> specific setting that you had configured yourself.  In either case, when 
> pasting into the mail message, VO should announce the item that was pasted.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 9, 2020, at 16:37, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This may be trivial but it helps if you can’t see at all.  In latest 
> Catalina, when you want to attach a file to an email by pasting it, there’s 
> no sound or Voiceover spoken feedback when you actually paste the file into 
> the body of an email.  Could you please confirm?  In Sierra, when I compose 
> an email and then wish to attach a file to it by pasting it into the body of 
> the email, I get a very nice familiar sound followed by voiceover speaking 
> the name of the file being attached/pasted.  In Catalina, there’s no 
> feedback.  Could you confirm before I start pestering Apple accessibility?
> 
> Andrew
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