Re: keyboards on a Mac mini

[Brad Snyder]

Exactly.

- Brad -


On Feb 18, 2021, at 23:17, 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries 
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Turn on keyboard help, and press the key, voiceover should tell you what it is.


Sent from my iPadPro

> On Feb 18, 2021, at 7:57 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> maybe. I don't know how to test it. I'll see if I can think of a way. I 
> onlyuse fn for a very few things.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>> 
>> Could it possibly be FN-key?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 3:20 PM
>> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: keyboards on a Mac mini
>> 
>> I ordered a keyboard from. Amazon that said it was compatible with Apple 
>> magic. I hooked itup recently because my old one is getting more and more 
>> disfunctional. it seems to be fine except that it has 4 keys on each side of 
>> the spacebar. it's not too bad. command is directly next to the spacebar. 
>> then comes option or it works like option anyway. then comes who knows what 
>> and then control at the end. so my question iks: is there anything that this 
>> other key next to control does if you have it hooked up to a Mac?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: keyboards on a Mac mini

['KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries]

Turn on keyboard help, and press the key, voiceover should tell you what it is.


Sent from my iPadPro

> On Feb 18, 2021, at 7:57 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> maybe. I don't know how to test it. I'll see if I can think of a way. I 
> onlyuse fn for a very few things.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>> 
>> Could it possibly be FN-key?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 3:20 PM
>> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: keyboards on a Mac mini
>> 
>> I ordered a keyboard from. Amazon that said it was compatible with Apple 
>> magic. I hooked itup recently because my old one is getting more and more 
>> disfunctional. it seems to be fine except that it has 4 keys on each side of 
>> the spacebar. it's not too bad. command is directly next to the spacebar. 
>> then comes option or it works like option anyway. then comes who knows what 
>> and then control at the end. so my question iks: is there anything that this 
>> other key next to control does if you have it hooked up to a Mac?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: keyboards on a Mac mini

[Lorie McCloud]

maybe. I don't know how to test it. I'll see if I can think of a way. I onlyuse 
fn for a very few things.

> On Feb 18, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Could it possibly be FN-key?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 3:20 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: keyboards on a Mac mini
> 
> I ordered a keyboard from. Amazon that said it was compatible with Apple 
> magic. I hooked itup recently because my old one is getting more and more 
> disfunctional. it seems to be fine except that it has 4 keys on each side of 
> the spacebar. it's not too bad. command is directly next to the spacebar. 
> then comes option or it works like option anyway. then comes who knows what 
> and then control at the end. so my question iks: is there anything that this 
> other key next to control does if you have it hooked up to a Mac?
> 
> Thanks.
> Lorie
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RE: keyboards on a Mac mini

[Fazil]

Could it possibly be FN-key?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 3:20 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: keyboards on a Mac mini

I ordered a keyboard from. Amazon that said it was compatible with Apple magic. 
I hooked itup recently because my old one is getting more and more 
disfunctional. it seems to be fine except that it has 4 keys on each side of 
the spacebar. it's not too bad. command is directly next to the spacebar. then 
comes option or it works like option anyway. then comes who knows what and then 
control at the end. so my question iks: is there anything that this other key 
next to control does if you have it hooked up to a Mac?

Thanks.
Lorie

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Re: keyboards on a Mac mini

[Lorie McCloud]

it doesn't seem to be completely laid out like a windows keyboard but I guess 
it cuold be. I don't remember. it would be nice if that extra key was fn. on my 
other keyboard I had to do a serious reach for it whenever I needed it.

> On Feb 18, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like you have a keyboard with a Windows layout.
> My guess is that your mystery key is the Fn-key.  Not sure if it will 
> function as an Fn-key when used on a Mac, but I'm sure you will be able to 
> figure it out eventually.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2021, at 17:20, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I ordered a keyboard from. Amazon that said it was compatible with Apple 
> magic. I hooked itup recently because my old one is getting more and more 
> disfunctional. it seems to be fine except that it has 4 keys on each side of 
> the spacebar. it's not too bad. command is directly next to the spacebar. 
> then comes option or it works like option anyway. then comes who knows what 
> and then control at the end. so my question iks: is there anything that this 
> other key next to control does if you have it hooked up to a Mac?
> 
> Thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: keyboards on a Mac mini

[Brad Snyder]

Sounds like you have a keyboard with a Windows layout.
My guess is that your mystery key is the Fn-key.  Not sure if it will function 
as an Fn-key when used on a Mac, but I'm sure you will be able to figure it out 
eventually.

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On Feb 18, 2021, at 17:20, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I ordered a keyboard from. Amazon that said it was compatible with Apple magic. 
I hooked itup recently because my old one is getting more and more 
disfunctional. it seems to be fine except that it has 4 keys on each side of 
the spacebar. it's not too bad. command is directly next to the spacebar. then 
comes option or it works like option anyway. then comes who knows what and then 
control at the end. so my question iks: is there anything that this other key 
next to control does if you have it hooked up to a Mac?

Thanks.
Lorie

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keyboards on a Mac mini

[Lorie McCloud]

I ordered a keyboard from. Amazon that said it was compatible with Apple magic. 
I hooked itup recently because my old one is getting more and more 
disfunctional. it seems to be fine except that it has 4 keys on each side of 
the spacebar. it's not too bad. command is directly next to the spacebar. then 
comes option or it works like option anyway. then comes who knows what and then 
control at the end. so my question iks: is there anything that this other key 
next to control does if you have it hooked up to a Mac?

Thanks.
Lorie

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Re: VoiceOver and Google Docs

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I have found docs to mostly be unusable on the Mac.
A couple of things which seem to make it better.
First I use chrome rather than safari.
Second, you can go to tools/accessibility options when in a Google doc and
uncheck the braille mode checkbox.  Braille mode is pretty good on Windows
but doesn't work well for me on the Mac.
Hopefully that will help a bit, but for me I had to get a windows machine
to really work with Google Docs.
Brett



On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 6:48 AM Barbara Hollick  wrote:

> I am struggling with Google Docs. When I type, VoiceOver will announce the
> letters I am typing but when I hit space, it does not read the word. I do
> not have the same experience when I use my PC. Is there something set
> incorrectly? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
> Warm regards,
> Barb
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Re: Any Audio Hijack users?

[Brad Snyder]

I have Audio Hijack, but haven’t used it much.
Would like to learn more from those experienced in using it.

- Brad -


On Feb 18, 2021, at 10:31, kliph miller Sr  wrote:

If you are a user of Audio Hijack, and want to exchange tips and hints, please 
email me off list, trying  to get to know this app, but confused about a few 
things.
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Re: Interacting with edit boxes in forms on safari

[Herbie Allen]

Are you doing this with Quicknav on or off/ Also, what is the website? Some 
things to try perhaps is with Quicknav on, use F to go from field to field. You 
can then turn it off and fill in said field. Also, autofill can be your friend 
in Safari as it can fill in a lot of the info saving work.

> On Feb 18, 2021, at 13:39, Steve Z.  wrote:
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>> Hi list,
>> I tried to fill a form on Safari, but I am facingI am facing problem 
>> interacting with the edit
>> boxes. I tried to move with tab, but it moves the first, second and then 
>> throws me to the end of the webpage. I tried with veal left arrow and move 
>> to one or two edit boxes and then stops.
>> Any hints?
>> Thank you
>> I tried to move with tab, but it moves to first, second and then throws me 
>> to the end of the webpage. I tried with VO left arrow and moveS to first, to 
>> second   edit box and then stops.
>> Any hints?
>> Thank you
>> Steve
>> Steve
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Re: Interacting with edit boxes in forms on safari

[Lorie McCloud]

you might try form controls with vo-command-j. I use that sometimes.

> On Feb 18, 2021, at 1:39 PM, Steve Z.  wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> I tried to fill a form on Safari, but I am facingI am facing problem 
>> interacting with the edit
>> boxes. I tried to move with tab, but it moves the first, second and then 
>> throws me to the end of the webpage. I tried with veal left arrow and move 
>> to one or two edit boxes and then stops.
>> Any hints?
>> Thank you
>> I tried to move with tab, but it moves to first, second and then throws me 
>> to the end of the webpage. I tried with VO left arrow and moveS to first, to 
>> second   edit box and then stops.
>> Any hints?
>> Thank you
>> Steve
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
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Interacting with edit boxes in forms on safari

[Steve Z.]

> Hi list,
> I tried to fill a form on Safari, but I am facingI am facing problem 
> interacting with the edit
> boxes. I tried to move with tab, but it moves the first, second and then 
> throws me to the end of the webpage. I tried with veal left arrow and move to 
> one or two edit boxes and then stops.
> Any hints?
> Thank you
> I tried to move with tab, but it moves to first, second and then throws me to 
> the end of the webpage. I tried with VO left arrow and moveS to first, to 
> second   edit box and then stops.
> Any hints?
> Thank you
> Steve
> Steve
> 
> 

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Re: Any Audio Hijack users?

[Herbie Allen]

I personally think this would be a great discussion for the list. for instance, 
has anyone gotten it to work with Big Sur? I had tried it but ran into some 
major accessibility issues with adding things to the grid.


Herbie

> On Feb 18, 2021, at 10:31, kliph miller Sr  wrote:
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Re: Opening a File Via Finder?

[Brad Snyder]

As with all navigation, hold down the VO modifier and use the right or left 
arrow keys.

- Brad -

On Feb 18, 2021, at 10:19, Fazil  wrote:


Thanks much, how can I navigate to the Folder View area, please?
Thanks again.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opening a File Via Finder?
 
You do not need to use VO + Spacebar, to select a folder or item from the 
Sidebar.  Once you have navigated to the item, it is selected.  Now, just stop 
interacting with the Sidebar, and navigate to the Folder View area, where you 
can interact, and select an item from the folder contents.
 
BTW - Rather than navigating to the Toolbar to change your Folder View to List, 
you can use the keyboard command CMD + NumberRow 2, to select List view.
 
HTH.

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On Feb 17, 2021, at 19:00, Fazil  wrote:
 
Hi, list.
I am trying to open a file/folder from Finder. I interact with toolbar, select 
list view, stop interacting with toolbar, move to sidebar, interact with it, 
brouse to my files/folders and hit VO-Spacebar to open it but it does not open. 
Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks!
 
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App couldn't be downloaded.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Since may English isn’t what I wish it would be this is going to be a bit hard 
to describe but its a very strange issue.
I downloaded an app on my Iphone today and after a while I got a message on my 
Mac telling me I couldn’t install the app and that I should try later.
Note that the download was on the iPhone but the message came on the Mac.
 I am not sure why this is happening but its quite annoying.
Any thoughts.
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Any Audio Hijack users?

[kliph miller Sr]

If you are a user of Audio Hijack, and want to exchange tips and hints, please 
email me off list, trying  to get to know this app, but confused about a few 
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Re: Opening a File Via Finder?

[Patrick Ford]

Excellent, good info, thanks.
patrick 
Come and See
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> On Feb 18, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> You do not need to use VO + Spacebar, to select a folder or item from the 
> Sidebar.  Once you have navigated to the item, it is selected.  Now, just 
> stop interacting with the Sidebar, and navigate to the Folder View area, 
> where you can interact, and select an item from the folder contents.
> 
> BTW - Rather than navigating to the Toolbar to change your Folder View to 
> List, you can use the keyboard command CMD + NumberRow 2, to select List view.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 17, 2021, at 19:00, Fazil  > wrote:
> 
> Hi, list.
> I am trying to open a file/folder from Finder. I interact with toolbar, 
> select list view, stop interacting with toolbar, move to sidebar, interact 
> with it, brouse to my files/folders and hit VO-Spacebar to open it but it 
> does not open. Am I doing something wrong?
> Thanks!
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RE: Opening a File Via Finder?

[Fazil]

Thanks much, how can I navigate to the Folder View area, please?

Thanks again.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opening a File Via Finder?

 

You do not need to use VO + Spacebar, to select a folder or item from the 
Sidebar.  Once you have navigated to the item, it is selected.  Now, just stop 
interacting with the Sidebar, and navigate to the Folder View area, where you 
can interact, and select an item from the folder contents.

 

BTW - Rather than navigating to the Toolbar to change your Folder View to List, 
you can use the keyboard command CMD + NumberRow 2, to select List view.

 

HTH.


- Brad -

 

On Feb 17, 2021, at 19:00, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, list.

I am trying to open a file/folder from Finder. I interact with toolbar, select 
list view, stop interacting with toolbar, move to sidebar, interact with it, 
brouse to my files/folders and hit VO-Spacebar to open it but it does not open. 
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Opening a File Via Finder?

[Brad Snyder]

You do not need to use VO + Spacebar, to select a folder or item from the 
Sidebar.  Once you have navigated to the item, it is selected.  Now, just stop 
interacting with the Sidebar, and navigate to the Folder View area, where you 
can interact, and select an item from the folder contents.

BTW - Rather than navigating to the Toolbar to change your Folder View to List, 
you can use the keyboard command CMD + NumberRow 2, to select List view.

HTH.

- Brad -


On Feb 17, 2021, at 19:00, Fazil  wrote:

Hi, list.
I am trying to open a file/folder from Finder. I interact with toolbar, select 
list view, stop interacting with toolbar, move to sidebar, interact with it, 
brouse to my files/folders and hit VO-Spacebar to open it but it does not open. 
Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks!

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VoiceOver and Google Docs

[Barbara Hollick]

I am struggling with Google Docs. When I type, VoiceOver will announce the
letters I am typing but when I hit space, it does not read the word. I do
not have the same experience when I use my PC. Is there something set
incorrectly? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
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Re: TextExpander Problems

[Kerryann F. Ifill]

I use it and found very similar results within the past couple days.

Can't create snippets with fill in fields. I also use it on PC and have
been meaning to try it there, but recently, my snippets aren't expanding
when I need them to.

Its quite annoying!

Regards
Kerry

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 8:33 AM Brandon Olivares 
wrote:

> Does anyone here use TextExpander?
>
> It’s worked fine for years, and now just yesterday I upgrade it, and now
> it barely works.
>
> In the app, it keeps popping up a menu that I can’t seem to get out of,
> the menu contains things like “disable expansion”, “new snippet”,
> “preferences”, “sign out”, “quit”, etc. If I hit escape, sometimes it
> works, but sometimes it doesn’t. But the moment I navigate with the
> trackpad, or hit VO-right or left, the menu pops back up.
>
> Also actually typing a snippet is all but impossible, if it contains a
> fill-in field. That same menu pops up, and I often can’t get out of it.
>
> I contacted support but they don’t immediately know what the problem is.
> Has anyone else used this app on the Mac?
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven” – Satan, from Milton’s
> Paradise Lost
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TextExpander Problems

[Brandon Olivares]

Does anyone here use TextExpander?

It’s worked fine for years, and now just yesterday I upgrade it, and now it 
barely works.

In the app, it keeps popping up a menu that I can’t seem to get out of, the 
menu contains things like “disable expansion”, “new snippet”, “preferences”, 
“sign out”, “quit”, etc. If I hit escape, sometimes it works, but sometimes it 
doesn’t. But the moment I navigate with the trackpad, or hit VO-right or left, 
the menu pops back up.

Also actually typing a snippet is all but impossible, if it contains a fill-in 
field. That same menu pops up, and I often can’t get out of it.

I contacted support but they don’t immediately know what the problem is. Has 
anyone else used this app on the Mac?

Thanks,
Brandon

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