podcasts in Catalina

[Lorie McCloud]

I don't know what to do with podcasts in Catalina. when I open the app it lands 
me on search. then I can right arrow along and get things like: Apple podcasts, 
listen now, browse, top charts, library etc. nothing at all happens when I try 
to interact with any of these things. I frequently hear: "Podcasts busy."

what I'm trying to do is download a certain set ofpodcasts. it's an audio drama 
so it has a finite number. it appears to be another season of something I'm 
already subscribed to. I just don't know what to do with the app. it's so 
unresponsive. suggestions?

thanks.
Lorie

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Energy Saver Preferences?

[Fazil]

Hi, group.

Today, I tried to reach energy saver preferences in System Preferences but I
could not find it there. Then I typed Energy Saver in SpotLight and found
the following dialogue box:

System Preference Alert!

You can not open energy saver preferences pane because it is not available
to you at this time. To see this preferences pane, you may need to connect
the device to your computer. Ok, default button.

Let me clarify that I was using Apple Magic (external keyboard).

How can I access Energy Saver, please?

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Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

[John Panarese]

  Yes, I don’t think the, assign commands, button will be available unless you 
have an active Braille display connected.


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> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:49 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Hi Eileen,
> So great to hear from you, I hope you and your husband are well.
> I think the issue here is, because I don’t have a Braille display, the 
> commands button won’t show up. God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
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> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 3:29 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Matthew,
>>  
>> Check in the VoiceOver Utility (VO+F8). Select Braille in the categories 
>> table, then select the tab for Displays. Use the Tab key to move through the 
>> settings and you will find commands there. I’m not sure how to use or set 
>> commands for a display.
>>  
>> HTH.
>>  
>> Eileen
>>  
>> From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries <>
>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 1:59 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <>
>> Subject: Braille Display Commands on Mac
>>  
>> Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I 
>> have used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the 
>> commands for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into 
>> the commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is 
>> this option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
>> applications?
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> Matthew Dierckens,
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>>> Canadian phone: 226-787-7354
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Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

['Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Eileen,
So great to hear from you, I hope you and your husband are well.
I think the issue here is, because I don’t have a Braille display, the commands 
button won’t show up. God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified assistive technology specialist
Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 3:29 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Matthew,
>  
> Check in the VoiceOver Utility (VO+F8). Select Braille in the categories 
> table, then select the tab for Displays. Use the Tab key to move through the 
> settings and you will find commands there. I’m not sure how to use or set 
> commands for a display.
>  
> HTH.
>  
> Eileen
>  
> From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 1:59 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Braille Display Commands on Mac
>  
> Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have 
> used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the 
> commands for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into 
> the commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is 
> this option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
> applications?
> Thanks.
> 
> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens,
>> Certified assistive technology specialist
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>> Canadian phone: 226-787-7354
>> 
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

OK, thanks for confirming. that is exactly the situation. Like Brad, I've 
received newsletters that are unreadable, but that isn't the case with this 
one. It just doesn't work with VO-A.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:51 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
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>   I have also found this with certain formatted emails. It’s not necessarily 
> a situation where it isn’t readable. It’s just something specific to the 
> formatting that seems to cause VoiceOver not to be able to read it from top 
> to bottom.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 3:46 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This is readable, just not by using VO-A.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>  
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps the content is not accessible.
>>> I receive inaccessible newsletters from various senders frequently.
>>> The content of these newsletters is an inaccessible graphic that contains 
>>> information that looks nice to sighted recipients, but is unreadable by a 
>>> screen reader.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 13:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, still no luck.
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 Try interacting with the body of the message, and see if the command VO + 
 A,  will work.
 
 - Brad -
 
 On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 So I just did a bit of testing. It seems to work with regular email 
 messages. The message I'm having trouble with is a newsletter, so it 
 contains headings and images.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Nope. See last message. That was actually what I meant to say, but it 
> doesn't work.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
>> The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver 
>> cursor is,  VO + A.
>> On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command 
>> works as  expected.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
>> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get 
>> stuck in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that 
>> over and over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for 
>> accomplishing this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

[John Panarese]

  I have also found this with certain formatted emails. It’s not necessarily a 
situation where it isn’t readable. It’s just something specific to the 
formatting that seems to cause VoiceOver not to be able to read it from top to 
bottom.


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> On Mar 19, 2021, at 3:46 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is readable, just not by using VO-A.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>  
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps the content is not accessible.
>> I receive inaccessible newsletters from various senders frequently.
>> The content of these newsletters is an inaccessible graphic that contains 
>> information that looks nice to sighted recipients, but is unreadable by a 
>> screen reader.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 13:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No, still no luck.
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try interacting with the body of the message, and see if the command VO + 
>>> A,  will work.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I just did a bit of testing. It seems to work with regular email 
>>> messages. The message I'm having trouble with is a newsletter, so it 
>>> contains headings and images.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Nope. See last message. That was actually what I meant to say, but it 
 doesn't work.
 Donna
 
 
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
> The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver 
> cursor is,  VO + A.
> On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command 
> works as  expected.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get 
> stuck in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that 
> over and over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for 
> accomplishing this?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

This is readable, just not by using VO-A.
Cheers,
Donna
 

> On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps the content is not accessible.
> I receive inaccessible newsletters from various senders frequently.
> The content of these newsletters is an inaccessible graphic that contains 
> information that looks nice to sighted recipients, but is unreadable by a 
> screen reader.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 13:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> No, still no luck.
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Try interacting with the body of the message, and see if the command VO + A, 
>>  will work.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So I just did a bit of testing. It seems to work with regular email 
>> messages. The message I'm having trouble with is a newsletter, so it 
>> contains headings and images.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nope. See last message. That was actually what I meant to say, but it 
>>> doesn't work.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
 The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver 
 cursor is,  VO + A.
 On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command 
 works as  expected.
 
 - Brad -
 
 On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
 Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck 
 in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and 
 over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for 
 accomplishing this?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Matthew,

Check in the VoiceOver Utility (VO+F8). Select Braille in the categories table, 
then select the tab for Displays. Use the Tab key to move through the settings 
and you will find commands there. I’m not sure how to use or set commands for a 
display.

HTH.

Eileen

From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 1:59 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Braille Display Commands on Mac

Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have 
used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the commands 
for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into the 
commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is this 
option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
applications? 
Thanks.




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Re: Keyboard Focus?

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1.  Open VoiceOver Utility using VO + F8.
2.  Select Navigation from the Utility Categories Table, or press CMD + 3.
3.  Navigate to the item labeled "Synchronize keyboard focus and VoiceOver 
cursor”, and make sure the checkbox is checked.

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On Mar 19, 2021, at 13:44, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I think my vo and keyboard focus are synced but I often have trouble because vo 
is reading something but keyboarrd is sitting at the top or beginning of it so 
they're not together. is there a way to get keyboard focus to go precisely 
where vo is?

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> No, keyboard focus is where you are typing and VoiceOver focus is the last 
> phrase that VoiceOVer said.
> That being said, usually VoiceOver and Keyboard focus are synced so that when 
> the VoiceOver  cursor moves to a keyboard focusable item, the keyboard focus 
> moves there too, and when keyboard focus moves the VoiceOver cursor will 
> follow this.
> This syncing can be turned off temporarily or more permanently.
> 1. vo-shiftF3 will toggle syncing on / off 
> 2. In VoiceOver Utility Navigation tab there are controls for synchronizing 
> keyboard with VoiceOver and mouse with VoiceOver.
> 
> The Mouse synchronization is only one direction, either mouse can move the Vo 
> Cursor or the VO cursor can move the mouse.
>   
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 20:13, Fazil > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Group.
>> Am I right in my assumption that Voiceover Cursor and Keyboard Focus is the 
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>> Thanks much for your clarification!
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

[Brad Snyder]

Perhaps the content is not accessible.
I receive inaccessible newsletters from various senders frequently.
The content of these newsletters is an inaccessible graphic that contains 
information that looks nice to sighted recipients, but is unreadable by a 
screen reader.

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On Mar 19, 2021, at 13:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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No, still no luck.

> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Try interacting with the body of the message, and see if the command VO + A,  
> will work.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I just did a bit of testing. It seems to work with regular email 
> messages. The message I'm having trouble with is a newsletter, so it contains 
> headings and images.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nope. See last message. That was actually what I meant to say, but it 
>> doesn't work.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
>>> The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver 
>>> cursor is,  VO + A.
>>> On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command works 
>>> as  expected.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
>>> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck 
>>> in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and 
>>> over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing 
>>> this?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

No, still no luck.

> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Try interacting with the body of the message, and see if the command VO + A,  
> will work.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I just did a bit of testing. It seems to work with regular email 
> messages. The message I'm having trouble with is a newsletter, so it contains 
> headings and images.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nope. See last message. That was actually what I meant to say, but it 
>> doesn't work.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
>>> The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver 
>>> cursor is,  VO + A.
>>> On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command works 
>>> as  expected.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
>>> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck 
>>> in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and 
>>> over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing 
>>> this?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Keyboard Focus?

[Lorie McCloud]

I think my vo and keyboard focus are synced but I often have trouble because vo 
is reading something but keyboarrd is sitting at the top or beginning of it so 
they're not together. is there a way to get keyboard focus to go precisely 
where vo is?

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> No, keyboard focus is where you are typing and VoiceOver focus is the last 
> phrase that VoiceOVer said.
> That being said, usually VoiceOver and Keyboard focus are synced so that when 
> the VoiceOver  cursor moves to a keyboard focusable item, the keyboard focus 
> moves there too, and when keyboard focus moves the VoiceOver cursor will 
> follow this.
> This syncing can be turned off temporarily or more permanently.
> 1. vo-shiftF3 will toggle syncing on / off 
> 2. In VoiceOver Utility Navigation tab there are controls for synchronizing 
> keyboard with VoiceOver and mouse with VoiceOver.
> 
> The Mouse synchronization is only one direction, either mouse can move the Vo 
> Cursor or the VO cursor can move the mouse.
>   
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 20:13, Fazil > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Group.
>> Am I right in my assumption that Voiceover Cursor and Keyboard Focus is the 
>> same thing? Or, Keyboard Focus is different from VoiceOver Cursor?
>> Thanks much for your clarification!
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Braille Display Commands on Mac

['Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries]

Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have 
used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the commands 
for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into the 
commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is this 
option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
applications?
Thanks.


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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

[Brad Snyder]

Try interacting with the body of the message, and see if the command VO + A,  
will work.

- Brad -

On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

So I just did a bit of testing. It seems to work with regular email messages. 
The message I'm having trouble with is a newsletter, so it contains headings 
and images.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nope. See last message. That was actually what I meant to say, but it doesn't 
> work.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
>> The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver 
>> cursor is,  VO + A.
>> On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command works 
>> as  expected.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
>> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck 
>> in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and 
>> over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing 
>> this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

[Jürgen Fleger]

OK, Newsletter are always a bit difficult. 


> Am 19.03.2021 um 18:16 schrieb 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> So I just did a bit of testing. It seems to work with regular email messages. 
> The message I'm having trouble with is a newsletter, so it contains headings 
> and images.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nope. See last message. That was actually what I meant to say, but it 
>> doesn't work.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
>>> The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver 
>>> cursor is,  VO + A.
>>> On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command works 
>>> as  expected.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
>>> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck 
>>> in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and 
>>> over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing 
>>> this?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

So I just did a bit of testing. It seems to work with regular email messages. 
The message I'm having trouble with is a newsletter, so it contains headings 
and images.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nope. See last message. That was actually what I meant to say, but it doesn't 
> work.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
>> The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver 
>> cursor is,  VO + A.
>> On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command works 
>> as  expected.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
>> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck 
>> in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and 
>> over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing 
>> this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Nope. See last message. That was actually what I meant to say, but it doesn't 
work.
Donna


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
> The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver 
> cursor is,  VO + A.
> On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command works 
> as  expected.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck in 
> the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and over 
> again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing this?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, and no. pressing Enter to open a message used to result in VO reading the 
whole message, but it doesn't seem to any more.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> I haven’t updated yet but here are some suggestions:
> 1. Did you try VO + a?
> 2. If you open an e-Mail using Enter VO should read its content automatically.
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 19.03.2021 um 16:58 schrieb 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
>> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck 
>> in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and 
>> over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing 
>> this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Sorry, I meant to say VO-A.
Cheeers,
Donna


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> I haven’t updated yet but here are some suggestions:
> 1. Did you try VO + a?
> 2. If you open an e-Mail using Enter VO should read its content automatically.
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 19.03.2021 um 16:58 schrieb 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
>> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck 
>> in the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and 
>> over again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing 
>> this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

[Brad Snyder]

If I'm not mistaken, CMD + A, should select all.
The command to begin reading from the current position of the VoiceOver cursor 
is,  VO + A.
On my MacBook Pro, running the latest update of Big Sur, this command works as  
expected.

- Brad -

On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck in 
the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and over 
again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing this?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hello Donna,

I haven’t updated yet but here are some suggestions:
1. Did you try VO + a?
2. If you open an e-Mail using Enter VO should read its content automatically.

All the best
Jürgen



> Am 19.03.2021 um 16:58 schrieb 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
> Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck in 
> the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and over 
> again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing this?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: programming too the lidar in the 12 pro?

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Hi. What I know so far is that if I hold the iPhone steady as I walk,
I never mind how fast I walk, and I walk relatively fast at 6 KPH.
According to Apple Watch, the iPhone is not complaining. That being
said, the lidar is not turned on before the camera detects a person,
or something that the AI thinks is a person. So far it is spot on.
Right now I am considering , if I shall, program this myself, otr pay
someone else to do it. Making it work should be quite easy, but being
enrolled in apples developing community, was last i heard quite
expensive. The range of the LIDAR is as Thomas says, 5 meters, or 15
Feet, it would be more than enough at least for me, there is a couple
of things i will need to think about  regarding riding a horse, and
controlling an iphone, but i tried one of them today, ride the horse
1-handed, and control the scanner with the other one.
So to my next question, does anyone know if the Haptic engine, and the
phone vibrator, are the same motor? If i am lucky it is the same, if
it is advanced, it is 2 different motors.



/Sandie






On 3/18/21, Thomas Frank  wrote:
> From what I know, and that is not much, LIDAR on the 12Pro has a range of 5
> meters. What I would like it to do, and seeing AI and SuperLidar do not do,
> is identify telephone poles, trees , and other landmarks when I am walking
> along a sidewalk. SoundScape, Nearby Explorer and other GPS get you close to
> a store entrance, but LIDAR should be a better tool to identify the entrance
>  As for riding a horse, the Apple Magnify app with People detection turned
> on, kept complaining that I was moving too fast. And that, compared to a
> horse, I am not. Good luck on your programing.
> Thomas Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
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>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 1:46 AM, Sandie Jazmin Kruse 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am considering  starting programming too the LIDAR  on my iphone 12 pro.
>> But how much do we know about it ,  ideally i would want it too detect
>> things when i am near too themand maybe trek haptic output a little bit
>> when i ma say close too a wall or some such, i want too use it when i ride
>> my horse. Any thoughts?
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In latest Big Sur update, Command-A no longer working in mail

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

Since updating to the latest iteration of Big Sur, I can no longer use 
Command-A to read a whole email message. When I try, VO seems to get stuck in 
the header at the top of the message, and keep repeating that over and over 
again. Anyone know what's up. Is there a new command for accomplishing this?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: braille on Mac

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

thanks, Jonathan. I had forgotten where the braille verbosity settings were - I 
was looking under braille, not verbosity. (Duh) That helped a lot.

Cheers,
Donna


> On Mar 16, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> For the first thing, can you adjust Braille verbosity? Perhaps in a activity 
> aimed at the mail app if you want table information in other applications.
> In terms of the diacritics I don't know a lot about this, but there are 
> actually two US English braille translation libraries available in ton my 
> Mac. One is libelous and the other is labeled system You should be able to 
> find these by adding a new braille code and select English. The System UEB/US 
> English codes are at the bottom of the list of variants.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
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>> On Mar 16, 2021, at 17:37, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm pairing my VU with my Mac for the first time in a while, and the very 
>> first time under Big Sur. I'm having some trouble, and hoping someone can 
>> help.
>> 
>> First, in the mail table, is there any way to get rid of all that crap? You 
>> know, Column, ro, empty cell, etc?
>> 
>> Second, when I try typing on the display, it translates things like dots 
>> 3-4-6, dots 1-4-5-6 as diacritics, even though I don't have a foreign 
>> language braille table added on my Mac right now. Anyone have any idea how 
>> to get my Mac to use the English US table?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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