Re: color identifier app

[Brad Snyder]

Try Seeing AI.
It is free, and in the iOS App Store.

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On May 11, 2021, at 23:37, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I'm looking for a recommendation for a good color identifier app for my 
iPhone. I've been using Clothes Color. it says things like: "light gray 
background. plain ccolor." doesn't say what the plain color is. I'd like to 
find something that would tell me if something was blue, white, red pink or 
what and if it was a combination of colors, what they are. is there anything 
like that out there?

thanks.
Lorie

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color identifier app

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm looking for a recommendation for a good color identifier app for my iPhone. 
I've been using Clothes Color. it says things like: "light gray background. 
plain ccolor." doesn't say what the plain color is. I'd like to find something 
that would tell me if something was blue, white, red pink or what and if it was 
a combination of colors, what they are. is there anything like that out there?

thanks.
Lorie

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RE: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[skipper8218]

Thanks.

I’ll give that a try.

 

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Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 9:37 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

 

Hello,

In Safari, these commands should also work, though at least in some cases, I 
find that option-uparrow moves me to the top rather than command-uparrow. I'm 
not sure, but it might be that the option-uparrow is for tables.

In terms of option-arrow left/right to move by word and command left/right to 
move end/start of line these will work on web pages unless the web page has 
overwritten the default arrow keys. Even then one can get these to work by 
clicking a checkbox in VoiceOver Utility and then saying "I agree" in a dialog 
box. Specifically, the Always allow keyboard commands to navigate websites in 
the Web area. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On May 10, 2021, at 10:01, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote:

 

That depends on what you are doing.

These are text editing commands.  If you are in an edit field, then they should 
perform the function described.

 


- Brad -

 

On May 10, 2021, at 08:54, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks.

Will this work in Safari or other Mac web browsers?

Thanks.

 

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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

 

Hi  Rebecca,

 

The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
applications:

 

CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.

CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.

CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.

CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.

 

I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it and 
see if it works as expected.

 

If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated Page Up 
or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down arrows keys 
for these functions.

Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform the 
Home and End function.

 

- Brad -

 

On May 10, 2021, at 06:39, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page up 
and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?

I have a M1 machine.

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

Sorry about the second message. The PageUp and PageDown keys move the display 
without changing focus or VoiceOver position making them pretty useless for VO 
users.
I believe that VO with another modifier key and Page Up will move to the 
beginning of a sentence.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 10, 2021, at 09:51, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Hi  Rebecca,
> 
> The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
> applications:
> 
> CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.
> CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.
> CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.
> CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.
> 
> I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it and 
> see if it works as expected.
> 
> If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated Page 
> Up or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down arrows 
> keys for these functions.
> Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform 
> the Home and End function.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 10, 2021, at 06:39,  >  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page 
> up and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?
> I have a M1 machine.
> Thanks.
>  
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Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
In Safari, these commands should also work, though at least in some cases, I 
find that option-uparrow moves me to the top rather than command-uparrow. I'm 
not sure, but it might be that the option-uparrow is for tables.
In terms of option-arrow left/right to move by word and command left/right to 
move end/start of line these will work on web pages unless the web page has 
overwritten the default arrow keys. Even then one can get these to work by 
clicking a checkbox in VoiceOver Utility and then saying "I agree" in a dialog 
box. Specifically, the Always allow keyboard commands to navigate websites in 
the Web area. 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 10, 2021, at 10:01, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> That depends on what you are doing.
> These are text editing commands.  If you are in an edit field, then they 
> should perform the function described.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 10, 2021, at 08:54,  >  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> Will this work in Safari or other Mac web browsers?
> Thanks.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:52 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac
>  
> Hi  Rebecca,
>  
> The following keyboard commands should work in most native Mac text editing 
> applications:
>  
> CMD + Left Arrow -  Go to beginning of current line.
> CMD + Right Arrow -  Go to end of current line.
> CMD + Up Arrow -  Go to beginning of document.
> CMD + Down Arrow - Go to end of document.
>  
> I never have needed to use Page Up or Page Down, but you can try using it and 
> see if it works as expected.
>  
> If you are using an Apple Magic Keyboard that does not have a dedicated Page 
> Up or Page Down key, try holding down the Fn key, and use the Up/Down arrows 
> keys for these functions.
> Likewise, using the Fn key with the Left and Right arrow keys will perform 
> the Home and End function.
>  
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On May 10, 2021, at 06:39,  >  > wrote:
>  
> Hi,
> How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page 
> up and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?
> I have a M1 machine.
> Thanks.
>  
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Every M1 Mac compared: Which Apple silicon computer is right for you?

[kliph miller Sr]

The rollout of Apple silicon continues with the introduction of the 24-inch iMac. Now there are four different Macs with Apple’s M1 system-on-a-chip (SoC) at the heart of each model: two laptops and two desktop computers. That means you have more choices, and that’s good—but that also means there are now more designs, features, specifications, and prices to consider, which can make picking the right one tricky.To help you decide with M1 Mac to buy, let’s break down each model and look at each of their similarities and differences. If you know for sure that you want an M1 Mac laptop and not a desktop computer, take a look at our M1 Mac laptop guide that compares the MacBook Air and 13-inch MacBook Pro. Plus Apple still sells Macs with Intel processors, so there’s a lot to consider before you plunk down a thousand-plus dollars on a new Mac.



M1: Laptop versus desktopThe four M1 Macs that Apple sells can be easily divided into laptops and desktop computers. The differences are obvious—skip to the next section if you don’t need it spelled out for you. Read on if you want more information to help you decide.Laptops. Apple sells two M1 Mac laptops, the MacBook Air and 13-inch MacBook Pro. Laptops are all-in-one computers, with a built-in display, keyboard, and trackpad. Mac laptops have a built-in battery that you charge by plugging in a power adapter to one of the Thunderbolt/USB 4 ports. You can charge the battery, unplug it when you travel, and then use the laptop on battery power at a remote location.Mac laptops tend to be a slower than Mac desktop computers because the laptops need to do more to maintain a comfortable temperature. But with the M1, the performance gap isn’t as big as it used to be with Intel processors, which we’ll outline below. Even before the switch to Apple silicon, Mac laptops provide enough performance to be used as a primary computer both on an office desk and on the go.Desktop. Apple offers two desktop M1 Macs, the Mac mini and the 24-inch iMac. These computers are designed to stay on a desk and are not generally considered to be mobile devices. The Mac mini requires you to provide a display and input devices, which you can also buy at the point of purchase from Apple or use your own. The iMac is an all-in-one computer with a built-in display and it comes with input devices.The desktop M1 Macs are faster than the M1 laptops, but not by a lot in general use. A desktop has a speed advantage with work that is very processor intensive, such as with pro apps like Final Cut, Logic Pro, and Xcode. Laptops need to be more attentive to the running temperature and will slow down if it starts to get too hot. Desktops, meanwhile, can run at a higher temperature for a longer period.Our take: Laptops are popular and with good reason. They have enough processing power for most users, are easy to travel with, and have the features most people need. A laptop might seem like the obvious choice, but if you’re not going to be traveling much, Apple’s M1 desktop computers are ideal for users who need the most processing power and an extensive setup with external hardware. If you need a monitor, look at the iMac, if not the Mac mini is a fantastic option.



M1: Processor and graphicsAll four Macs use the M1 SoC, which has an 8-core CPU with four perform­ance cores and four efficiency cores. Based on our testing of three of the four Macs released so far, it provides impressively fast performance, with similar results across all four models.As of this writing, the 24-inch iMac had not yet started shipping. Apple said the iMac would start making its way to customers in the second half of May. We won’t be surprised if the 24-inch iMac posts Geekbench 5 scores similar to what has been posted by the M1 Mac mini, but we’ll update this post once we get our hands on one.Here’s a look at the Geekbench 5 CPU results. The M1 laptops have scores that are lower than the Mac mini, probably because the laptops run a tad slower for temperature control. But the difference is really small—we’re talking about 1.5 percent—and in everyday use, you won’t notice a difference between the three.



Geekbench 5 CPU benchmark



Mac modelSingle-core testMulti-core testMacBook Air1730745413-inch MacBook Pro17247569Mac mini17537735Results are scores. Higher scores are better.



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Re: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac

[Kerryann Ifill]

Hi,

Is there   anyway to continue reading in pages? Each time I get to the end of a 
page, I have to manoeuvre past the footer and header to get to the  next page.

Any ideas?

Kerry

> On 10 May 2021, at 7:26 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> They’re listed under “Document Shortcuts” on this page:
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236 
> 
> You’ll find a variety of other useful keyboard commands there also.
>  
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> Date: Monday, May 10, 2021 at 07:39
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> Subject: Question About Navigation Commands for Mac
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> Hi,
> How do I go to end of line, top of line, end of file, top of file, and page 
> up and page down using the Mac’s keyboard?
> I have a M1 machine.
> Thanks.
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