Re: dropbox

[Lorie McCloud]

I think the only way to do it is to use the website. that's why I'm having 
trouble. 

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 6:02 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Confused? Thought you were since you mentioned the site. I looked at the file 
> request and it looks straight forward. This was using the website though.
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 17:39, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm following the instructions in Judy Dixon's book about dropbox. I just 
>> can't locate the stuff she says is there. sometimes when she says: "Press 
>> Enter," that has to be replaced by vo-space on a Mac but even with that I 
>> just can't get it to work. I wish there were some way of doing it from my 
>> computer. dropbox is very straightforward in that way.
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have not used that feature. What kind of trouble are you having? That 
>>> site can be tricky in general.
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2021, at 15:11, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 has anybody here ever created a file request on the dropbox website using 
 their Mac? I'm having a lot of trouble trying to do it so any suggestions 
 would be very helpful.
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
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Re: dropbox

[Herbie Allen]

Confused? Thought you were since you mentioned the site. I looked at the file 
request and it looks straight forward. This was using the website though.

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 17:39, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I'm following the instructions in Judy Dixon's book about dropbox. I just 
> can't locate the stuff she says is there. sometimes when she says: "Press 
> Enter," that has to be replaced by vo-space on a Mac but even with that I 
> just can't get it to work. I wish there were some way of doing it from my 
> computer. dropbox is very straightforward in that way.
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not used that feature. What kind of trouble are you having? That site 
>> can be tricky in general.
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 15:11, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> has anybody here ever created a file request on the dropbox website using 
>>> their Mac? I'm having a lot of trouble trying to do it so any suggestions 
>>> would be very helpful.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: dropbox

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm following the instructions in Judy Dixon's book about dropbox. I just can't 
locate the stuff she says is there. sometimes when she says: "Press Enter," 
that has to be replaced by vo-space on a Mac but even with that I just can't 
get it to work. I wish there were some way of doing it from my computer. 
dropbox is very straightforward in that way.

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> I have not used that feature. What kind of trouble are you having? That site 
> can be tricky in general.
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 15:11, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> has anybody here ever created a file request on the dropbox website using 
>> their Mac? I'm having a lot of trouble trying to do it so any suggestions 
>> would be very helpful.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: dropbox

[Herbie Allen]

I have not used that feature. What kind of trouble are you having? That site 
can be tricky in general.

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 15:11, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> has anybody here ever created a file request on the dropbox website using 
> their Mac? I'm having a lot of trouble trying to do it so any suggestions 
> would be very helpful.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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dropbox

[Lorie McCloud]

has anybody here ever created a file request on the dropbox website using their 
Mac? I'm having a lot of trouble trying to do it so any suggestions would be 
very helpful.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Already have. Twice.
Donna


> On Sep 19, 2021, at 12:40 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> 
> On 19/9/21 11:21, skipper8...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Thanks.
>> Kindle is a great source for books, and I really wish they could be read on 
>> the Mac with VoiceOver.
>> That's an Amazon issue. It might be worth contacting them.
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Re: FW: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 19/9/21 11:21, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks.

Kindle is a great source for books, and I really wish they could be 
read on the Mac with VoiceOver.


That's an Amazon issue. It might be worth contacting them.


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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

[skipper8218]

Thanks.

Good to know.

 

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a 
Mac as a Blind Student

 

No, Kendall has a broader selection. So, if I can only find the book on Kindle, 
I buy it there. But if I have a choice, I always buy on Apple Books.

Cheers,

Donna

 

Sent from my iPad





On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:24 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Is Apple iBooks have the same types of reading materials as Amazon Kindle 
Store? In other words, when searching for books, did you find the same titles 
in both stores?

 

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a 
Mac as a Blind Student

 

The thing I hate about Kindle books is that they strip all the formatting out.  
So, there are no paragraphs or headings or anything, everything just displays 
like one big long string of text.  That drives me crazy!  Apple iBooks has made 
lots of money off me, just because the reading experience in braille is so much 
better.

Cheers,

Donna

 






On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:21 AM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks.

Kindle is a great source for books, and I really wish they could be read on the 
Mac with VoiceOver.

 

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: FW: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose 
a Mac as a Blind Student

 

 

On 17/9/21 05:08, skipper8...@gmail.com   wrote:

The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the Kindle 
eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of that.

Also, as a person who works in a job that significantly involves writing 
scholarship for publication, I've never needed Kindle. Others may be in a 
different position; I'm simply noting that, for academic purposes, there are 
usually other sources.

As for OCR, ABBYY FineReader for Mac should be investigated.

Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone?

On iPhone or Mac, yes, as far as I can recall.





What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to a Victor 
Reader Stream?

Yes to the former. I don't have a Victor Reader Stream, so can't comment. If it 
presents as a USB mass storage device, it's simply a matter of copying files.





What about reading PDF files?

Yes - Preview, Adobe Reader for Mac, or the PDF reader in Google Chrome - take 
your choice.





 

 

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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

No, Kendall has a broader selection. So, if I can only find the book on Kindle, 
I buy it there. But if I have a choice, I always buy on Apple Books.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:24 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Is Apple iBooks have the same types of reading materials as Amazon Kindle 
> Store? In other words, when searching for books, did you find the same titles 
> in both stores?
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:16 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a 
> Mac as a Blind Student
>  
> The thing I hate about Kindle books is that they strip all the formatting 
> out.  So, there are no paragraphs or headings or anything, everything just 
> displays like one big long string of text.  That drives me crazy!  Apple 
> iBooks has made lots of money off me, just because the reading experience in 
> braille is so much better.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:21 AM,   
> wrote:
>  
> Thanks.
> Kindle is a great source for books, and I really wish they could be read on 
> the Mac with VoiceOver.
>  
> From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 11:19 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FW: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to 
> Choose a Mac as a Blind Student
>  
>  
> On 17/9/21 05:08, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
> The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the Kindle 
> eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of that.
> Also, as a person who works in a job that significantly involves writing 
> scholarship for publication, I've never needed Kindle. Others may be in a 
> different position; I'm simply noting that, for academic purposes, there are 
> usually other sources.
> As for OCR, ABBYY FineReader for Mac should be investigated.
> Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone?
> On iPhone or Mac, yes, as far as I can recall.
> 
> 
> What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to a 
> Victor Reader Stream?
> Yes to the former. I don't have a Victor Reader Stream, so can't comment. If 
> it presents as a USB mass storage device, it's simply a matter of copying 
> files.
> 
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> Yes - Preview, Adobe Reader for Mac, or the PDF reader in Google Chrome - 
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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

[skipper8218]

Is Apple iBooks have the same types of reading materials as Amazon Kindle 
Store? In other words, when searching for books, did you find the same titles 
in both stores?

 

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
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Mac as a Blind Student

 

The thing I hate about Kindle books is that they strip all the formatting out.  
So, there are no paragraphs or headings or anything, everything just displays 
like one big long string of text.  That drives me crazy!  Apple iBooks has made 
lots of money off me, just because the reading experience in braille is so much 
better.

Cheers,

Donna

 





On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:21 AM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks.

Kindle is a great source for books, and I really wish they could be read on the 
Mac with VoiceOver.

 

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: FW: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose 
a Mac as a Blind Student

 

 

On 17/9/21 05:08, skipper8...@gmail.com   wrote:

The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the Kindle 
eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of that.

Also, as a person who works in a job that significantly involves writing 
scholarship for publication, I've never needed Kindle. Others may be in a 
different position; I'm simply noting that, for academic purposes, there are 
usually other sources.

As for OCR, ABBYY FineReader for Mac should be investigated.

Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone?

On iPhone or Mac, yes, as far as I can recall.




What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to a Victor 
Reader Stream?

Yes to the former. I don't have a Victor Reader Stream, so can't comment. If it 
presents as a USB mass storage device, it's simply a matter of copying files.




What about reading PDF files?

Yes - Preview, Adobe Reader for Mac, or the PDF reader in Google Chrome - take 
your choice.




 

 

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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

The thing I hate about Kindle books is that they strip all the formatting out.  
So, there are no paragraphs or headings or anything, everything just displays 
like one big long string of text.  That drives me crazy!  Apple iBooks has made 
lots of money off me, just because the reading experience in braille is so much 
better.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:21 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> Kindle is a great source for books, and I really wish they could be read on 
> the Mac with VoiceOver.
>  
> From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  > 
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 11:19 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> Choose a Mac as a Blind Student
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>  
> On 17/9/21 05:08, skipper8...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the Kindle 
>> eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of that.
> Also, as a person who works in a job that significantly involves writing 
> scholarship for publication, I've never needed Kindle. Others may be in a 
> different position; I'm simply noting that, for academic purposes, there are 
> usually other sources.
> As for OCR, ABBYY FineReader for Mac should be investigated.
>> Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone?
> On iPhone or Mac, yes, as far as I can recall.
> 
>> What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to a 
>> Victor Reader Stream?
> Yes to the former. I don't have a Victor Reader Stream, so can't comment. If 
> it presents as a USB mass storage device, it's simply a matter of copying 
> files.
> 
>> What about reading PDF files?
> Yes - Preview, Adobe Reader for Mac, or the PDF reader in Google Chrome - 
> take your choice.
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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

[skipper8218]

Well,

You could try Acrobat Pro which is cross-platform.

Someone on this list mentioned live OCR in the next OS release, I think.

If you run JAWS or NVDA on Windows you can use the OCR built into JAWS or the 
addon for NVDA.

Check to see if Pages for the Mac works with PDF.

I know you can open PDF’s in word, and I believe you can save Word documents as 
PDF files though do not know if formatting is retained.

 

 

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Mac as a Blind Student

 

I have a Mac and a Windows computer. PDF Pen was recommended by someone here in 
context of apps to do PDF’s.

Devin Prater

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On Sep 19, 2021, at 8:59 AM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’m not sure who recommended PDF 10 since I do not use this app.

Are you using Windows or Mac at work?

JAWS OCR would cost considerably more at work, and the only free OCR I know of 
is the free NVDA addon.

If you need to edit PDF files, maybe Acrobat Pro would be your best option.

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
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Mac as a Blind Student

 

$79 isn’t just not cheap, it’s very expensive for an app. My job deals with 
PDF’s a lot, and as the blind person in the AT Department, I’m the one that 
usually has to make them accessible. Would this be worth buying to help in my 
job? Is this *completely* accessible?

Devin Prater

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PDFPen

 

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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 19/9/21 03:04, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:


I am glad the Mantis is supported on the Mac because I’ve heard that 
it is not supported on all platforms.


Connecting a Braille display to a Mac was one of the easiest things 
for me to do.



Yes, it was easy for me too: automatically detected by VoiceOver if 
connected via a USB cable.


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RE: FW: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

[skipper8218]

Thanks.

Kindle is a great source for books, and I really wish they could be read on the 
Mac with VoiceOver.

 

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 11:19 AM
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a Mac as a Blind Student

 

 

On 17/9/21 05:08, skipper8...@gmail.com   wrote:

The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the Kindle 
eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of that.

Also, as a person who works in a job that significantly involves writing 
scholarship for publication, I've never needed Kindle. Others may be in a 
different position; I'm simply noting that, for academic purposes, there are 
usually other sources.

As for OCR, ABBYY FineReader for Mac should be investigated.

Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone?

On iPhone or Mac, yes, as far as I can recall.



What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to a Victor 
Reader Stream?

Yes to the former. I don't have a Victor Reader Stream, so can't comment. If it 
presents as a USB mass storage device, it's simply a matter of copying files.



What about reading PDF files?

Yes - Preview, Adobe Reader for Mac, or the PDF reader in Google Chrome - take 
your choice.



 

 

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Re: FW: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 17/9/21 05:08, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:


The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the 
Kindle eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of 
that.


Also, as a person who works in a job that significantly involves writing 
scholarship for publication, I've never needed Kindle. Others may be in 
a different position; I'm simply noting that, for academic purposes, 
there are usually other sources.


As for OCR, ABBYY FineReader for Mac should be investigated.


Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone?


On iPhone or Mac, yes, as far as I can recall.


What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to 
a Victor Reader Stream?


Yes to the former. I don't have a Victor Reader Stream, so can't 
comment. If it presents as a USB mass storage device, it's simply a 
matter of copying files.


What about reading PDF files?

Yes - Preview, Adobe Reader for Mac, or the PDF reader in Google Chrome 
- take your choice.






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I have a Mac and a Windows computer. PDF Pen was recommended by someone here in 
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> On Sep 19, 2021, at 8:59 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure who recommended PDF 10 since I do not use this app.
> Are you using Windows or Mac at work?
> JAWS OCR would cost considerably more at work, and the only free OCR I know 
> of is the free NVDA addon.
> If you need to edit PDF files, maybe Acrobat Pro would be your best option.
>  
> From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a 
> Mac as a Blind Student
>  
> $79 isn’t just not cheap, it’s very expensive for an app. My job deals with 
> PDF’s a lot, and as the blind person in the AT Department, I’m the one that 
> usually has to make them accessible. Would this be worth buying to help in my 
> job? Is this *completely* accessible?
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com 
> Https://devinprater.flounder.online 
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>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 3:33 PM, > > > > wrote:
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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

[skipper8218]

I’m not sure who recommended PDF 10 since I do not use this app.

Are you using Windows or Mac at work?

JAWS OCR would cost considerably more at work, and the only free OCR I know of 
is the free NVDA addon.

If you need to edit PDF files, maybe Acrobat Pro would be your best option.

 

From: 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a 
Mac as a Blind Student

 

$79 isn’t just not cheap, it’s very expensive for an app. My job deals with 
PDF’s a lot, and as the blind person in the AT Department, I’m the one that 
usually has to make them accessible. Would this be worth buying to help in my 
job? Is this *completely* accessible?

Devin Prater

d.pra...@me.com  

Https://devinprater.flounder.online





On Sep 18, 2021, at 3:33 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

PDFPen

 

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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

$79 isn’t just not cheap, it’s very expensive for an app. My job deals with 
PDF’s a lot, and as the blind person in the AT Department, I’m the one that 
usually has to make them accessible. Would this be worth buying to help in my 
job? Is this *completely* accessible?
Devin Prater
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> On Sep 18, 2021, at 3:33 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> PDFPen

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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I love the Mantis with my Mac.  I love it even more with my iPad and iPhone.  
Having a qwerty keyboard with a braille display is absolutely awesome
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 2:04 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I am glad the Mantis is supported on the Mac because I’ve heard that it is 
> not supported on all platforms.
> Connecting a Braille display to a Mac was one of the easiest things for me to 
> do.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Kliph
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 10:05 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a 
> Mac as a Blind Student
>  
> I have no issue with braille on the Mac, using the mantis q40 is a breeze.
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>  
> I find that Braille on the Mac still difficult.  Lot’s of interacting, and 
> then the Cursor isn’t reflected on the Braille display as you get with Jaws.  
> If Braille was good on the Mac then I’d use my Braille display with it as 
> well as windows.
> 
> 
> On 17 Sep 2021, at 19:18, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> PDFPen and PDFPen Pro are also great accessible pdf apps on the Mac.  They’re 
> not free, of course, but usually do a great job.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>  
> If you have trouble with Preview, Give Adobe a try for Mac. I’ve also had 
> good luck with Chrome.
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2021, at 12:58, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  
> For me, the reason I don’t use a Mac anymore has to do with PDF files and web 
> usage. I found PDFs really difficult to deal with except the short and super 
> simple ones, and in my view, voiceover just doesn’t cut it as compared to 
> windows screen readers with various browsers. It gets busy and goes in 
> circles etc. Now I haven’t had a Mac in a couple of years. But I always keep 
> asking about PDF, and so far, crickets. So no voiceover and Mac for me 
> anymore.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2021, at 8:50 AM, skipper8218@gmail.comwrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, the Victor Reader still uses SD Cards.
> I was thinking back to my college days.
> I will not be convinced that the Mac can replace Windows until OCR is 
> included in VoiceOver by default much like we may see in IOS15.
> I was trying to ask questions that the article did not address.
> I think I have unreasonable expectations for the Mac though given that 
> Windows doesn’t allow you to answer calls as seamlessly as the Mac can.
> If Apple would only add the same features from IOS to the Mac the OS would be 
> even better i.e. include the OCR recognition and improve the catalyst app 
> experience.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On 
> Behalf Of Herbie Allen
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 11:44 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a 
> Mac as a Blind Student
>  
> I’m confused with some of your questions but I will give it a go. First, I 
> know there are some OcR solutions with the Mac but I have not dealt with them 
> since like you said, the phone can handle that. As for Kindle, is it any 
> better on Windows? You can always get Alexa to read those as well. There is a 
> Learning Ally app for the phone. Unzipping, are you talking about the Mac or 
> phone? It’s a piece of cake on the Mac, do a  command O on the Zip file, and 
> it will create a new folder with all the content. PDF’s, you have Preview, 
> Chrome, or Adobe as options to pursue. Preview comes as part of the Mac and 
> is usable. As for the Victor,, do they still use SD cards?
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2021, at 04:08, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>  
> The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the Kindle 
> eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of that.
> Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone?
> What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to a 
> Victor Reader Stream?
> What about reading PDF files?
>  
> From: tech...@groups.io  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 2:29 AM
> To: tech...@groups.iotv 
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac 
> as a Blind Student
>  
> iPhoneArena - Monday, September 13, 2021 at 5:14 PM
> 5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student
> 
> 5 Reasons why a Mac Is a Great choice for a Blind Student
> 
> If you live with sight loss, going to a new college or university can bring a 
> host of new experiences and challenges. Stressing over your assistive 
> technology should not be one of them. The inevitable question will arise: 
> What computing platform should 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student

[skipper8218]

I am glad the Mantis is supported on the Mac because I’ve heard that it is not 
supported on all platforms.

Connecting a Braille display to a Mac was one of the easiest things for me to 
do.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kliph
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 10:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a 
Mac as a Blind Student

 

I have no issue with braille on the Mac, using the mantis q40 is a breeze.

 





On Sep 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

I find that Braille on the Mac still difficult.  Lot’s of interacting, and then 
the Cursor isn’t reflected on the Braille display as you get with Jaws.  If 
Braille was good on the Mac then I’d use my Braille display with it as well as 
windows.





On 17 Sep 2021, at 19:18, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hi,

 

PDFPen and PDFPen Pro are also great accessible pdf apps on the Mac.  They’re 
not free, of course, but usually do a great job.

 

Later…

 


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist

Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada





On Sep 17, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Herbie Allen mailto:herbie.al...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

If you have trouble with Preview, Give Adobe a try for Mac. I’ve also had good 
luck with Chrome.





On Sep 17, 2021, at 12:58, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

For me, the reason I don’t use a Mac anymore has to do with PDF files and web 
usage. I found PDFs really difficult to deal with except the short and super 
simple ones, and in my view, voiceover just doesn’t cut it as compared to 
windows screen readers with various browsers. It gets busy and goes in circles 
etc. Now I haven’t had a Mac in a couple of years. But I always keep asking 
about PDF, and so far, crickets. So no voiceover and Mac for me anymore.



Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 17, 2021, at 8:50 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com 
 wrote:



Yes, the Victor Reader still uses SD Cards.

I was thinking back to my college days.

I will not be convinced that the Mac can replace Windows until OCR is included 
in VoiceOver by default much like we may see in IOS15.

I was trying to ask questions that the article did not address.

I think I have unreasonable expectations for the Mac though given that Windows 
doesn’t allow you to answer calls as seamlessly as the Mac can.

If Apple would only add the same features from IOS to the Mac the OS would be 
even better i.e. include the OCR recognition and improve the catalyst app 
experience.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 11:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a 
Mac as a Blind Student

 

I’m confused with some of your questions but I will give it a go. First, I know 
there are some OcR solutions with the Mac but I have not dealt with them since 
like you said, the phone can handle that. As for Kindle, is it any better on 
Windows? You can always get Alexa to read those as well. There is a Learning 
Ally app for the phone. Unzipping, are you talking about the Mac or phone? It’s 
a piece of cake on the Mac, do a  command O on the Zip file, and it will create 
a new folder with all the content. PDF’s, you have Preview, Chrome, or Adobe as 
options to pursue. Preview comes as part of the Mac and is usable. As for the 
Victor,, do they still use SD cards?






On Sep 17, 2021, at 04:08, skipper8...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

 

The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the Kindle 
eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of that.

Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone?

What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to a Victor 
Reader Stream?

What about reading PDF files?

 

From: tech...@groups.io   mailto:tech...@groups.io> > On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 2:29 AM
To: tech...@groups.iotv   mailto:tech...@groups.io> >
Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac 
as a Blind Student

 

iPhoneArena - Monday, September 13, 2021 at 5:14 PM


5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student


5 Reasons why a Mac Is a Great choice for a Blind Student


If you live with sight loss, going to a new college or university can bring a 
host of new experiences and challenges. Stressing over your assistive 
technology should not be one of them. The inevitable question will arise: What 
computing