Re: Strange display bug
What type of terminal does your remote environment think you are in? Try echo $TERM Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Jun 30, 2022, at 15:01, Steve Matzura wrote: > > Definitely do try this at home. > > > 1. Create a new file by pasting the following two lines of text into a blank > TextEdit or Pico buffer: > > > 1 2 3 4 > > 1234 > > > The first line has the four digits separated by two spaces. The second line > has the four digits separated by two TAB's. > > > If you move the cursor around in the TextEdit window, you should here: > > > one space space two space space three space space four > > > on the first line, and > > > one tab tab two tab tab three tab tab four > > > on the second line. > > > In Pico, and also if you ssh into another system from the Terminal window and > edit the same contents with nano or pico on the remote system, the first line > will speak the same as it did in TextEdit, but on the second line you will > hear: > > > one one one two two two three three three four > > > If you replace figures with words on the second line, like this: > > > onetwothreefour > > > and move the cursor along in either direction on that line, you may hear > parts of words, or maybe just the first or last letter of the word as the > cursor passes over the TAB characters next to it. Why is this, what causes > it, and how can it be mitigated, eliminated or prevented? Is it a nano/pico > bug? A VoiceOver bug? > > > You should also know that this does not occur when using nano or pico in > Windows, nor does it occur when using ssh to get into a Mac and edit the same > buffer using local pico. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2f65293d-445c-47a2-7aa8-72e24c9321cc%40noisynotes.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FE1DAA94-B733-48C4-9355-5919F453061C%40gmail.com.
Re: YouTube audio grabber
Pontes Media Downloader and it’s free. > On Jul 3, 2022, at 10:49, Phil Halton wrote: > > I just took out a YouTube premium free trial for purposes of downloading > YouTube video material. Unfortunately, I found that it only makes it > available off-line through the YouTube app and you can’t actually manipulate > the file in anyway. All I’m really looking for is to get the audio of certain > videos. There used to be audio grabbers for YouTube are there still? Is there > a good one I can use and I primarily use iOS, but I can use the Mac as well. > Any help appreciated > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F470BF60-5444-4A9A-9CD6-9F6BCDB91FDD%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/79654088-7DE1-44B7-BF39-81EDF23BBA94%40gmail.com.
Re: YouTube audio grabber
Downie works well on the Mac. It costs $20 but is well worth it. Merv > On Jul 3, 2022, at 11:49 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > I just took out a YouTube premium free trial for purposes of downloading > YouTube video material. Unfortunately, I found that it only makes it > available off-line through the YouTube app and you can’t actually manipulate > the file in anyway. All I’m really looking for is to get the audio of certain > videos. There used to be audio grabbers for YouTube are there still? Is there > a good one I can use and I primarily use iOS, but I can use the Mac as well. > Any help appreciated > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F470BF60-5444-4A9A-9CD6-9F6BCDB91FDD%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F5E56CAC-BF44-49AD-A669-08CA9C3C3ED4%40icloud.com.
YouTube audio grabber
I just took out a YouTube premium free trial for purposes of downloading YouTube video material. Unfortunately, I found that it only makes it available off-line through the YouTube app and you can’t actually manipulate the file in anyway. All I’m really looking for is to get the audio of certain videos. There used to be audio grabbers for YouTube are there still? Is there a good one I can use and I primarily use iOS, but I can use the Mac as well. Any help appreciated Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F470BF60-5444-4A9A-9CD6-9F6BCDB91FDD%40gmail.com.
Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.
I switched from Apple Music to Primephonic, a specialist streaming service for serious music. Most streaming services assume everything is a “song”, and can’t handle multiple movement works well (e.g., operas, symphonies, sonatas, etc.). Primephonic solved that problem, while allowing you to find and compare different recordings of the same work, for instance. The Primephonic application and Web site had some accessibility issues, but the catalogue was excellent, and the application was designed for the kind of music I listen to. Then Apple purchased Primephonic, so I’m back to Apple Music again. It’s rumored that Apple may at some point release a new application based on Primephonic’s design. If they do, I hope the accessibility with VoiceOver is improved. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf of Tibor Niesner Date: Saturday, 2July, 2022 at 04:59 To: via MacVisionaries Subject: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify. Hello, how do you use service for listening to music and why? I am talking about the services in a subject. Thank you. Best regard. Tibor Niesner -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FF54A526-81B3-4F6C-8AD0-B4DC6AF0F485%40seznam.cz. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/PH0P220MB0587CAFA181E6B9F0FE6E7CDFFBF9%40PH0P220MB0587.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.
Hello, I use YouTube music. The reason is that I pay for YouTube premium for me and my son so we do not see adds in YouTube. We watch YouTube a lot so it is worth it for us. YouTube music comes with a YouTube premium subscription. Greg Wocher > On Jul 2, 2022, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I also use Apple Music, because I like the high quality at no extra cost, the > ease of use with Siri, the fact that I have HomePods and iOS devices etc. I > also had it linked to my Amazon, although that went out a little while back > and I haven’t tried it since. I did have Amazon music, but I dropped it, > because it never got linked up with my HomePods so never mind. I have YouTube > premium but not for the music, just for the fact that I don’t have to see ads > ever. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 2, 2022, at 1:59 AM, Tibor Niesner wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> how do you use service for listening to music and why? >> I am talking about the services in a subject. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Best regard. >> >> Tibor Niesner >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FF54A526-81B3-4F6C-8AD0-B4DC6AF0F485%40seznam.cz. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/397622E3-9F4C-4153-8949-3FC5CFD04094%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/04A98993-BF5F-41E8-B04B-23573AADECA7%40gmail.com.
