Re: Adjusting Voiceover Speed on Verbosity Roter?

2022-10-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 

   No you need to use VO command shift left or right arrow keys..

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On 10/24/2022 9:09 PM, Fazil M. wrote:

Hi, group.

Can I adjust voiceover speed on Verbosity roater by invoking it with VO+v?

If not, how can I adjust voiceover speed?

Thanks!

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Adjusting Voiceover Speed on Verbosity Roter?

2022-10-24 Thread Fazil M. 
Hi, group.

Can I adjust voiceover speed on Verbosity roater by invoking it with VO+v?

If not, how can I adjust voiceover speed?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Eloquence on Ventura

2022-10-24 Thread Yolanda Thompson 
Great description of how to change the voice, Thank you so much

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 6:40 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
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> No, but you do have to go into the table, I mean interact with it.  You go 
> into the utility like before.  Select speech in the VoiceOver utility.  Then 
> VO to the right till you see the table that says customize language list.  
> You have to interact with that table.  There is a popup button that you have 
> to VO space on.  The Eloquence voices are in an Eloquence submenu.  Let me 
> know if this is not enough information.  Mine came up speaking South African 
> and doing it very fast, which made it harder than usual for me to fix.  The 
> trick was to calm down and slow down.  Good luck.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> So, when I open VO utility, choose speech then the voices tab, I do
>> not see anything under that tab. Do I have to go through system
>> preferences to use a different voice?
>> 
>> TIA
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Re: Eloquence on Ventura

2022-10-24 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
No, but you do have to go into the table, I mean interact with it.  You go into 
the utility like before.  Select speech in the VoiceOver utility.  Then VO to 
the right till you see the table that says customize language list.  You have 
to interact with that table.  There is a popup button that you have to VO space 
on.  The Eloquence voices are in an Eloquence submenu.  Let me know if this is 
not enough information.  Mine came up speaking South African and doing it very 
fast, which made it harder than usual for me to fix.  The trick was to calm 
down and slow down.  Good luck.




> On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
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> So, when I open VO utility, choose speech then the voices tab, I do
> not see anything under that tab. Do I have to go through system
> preferences to use a different voice?
> 
> TIA
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread Herbie Allen 
My rates were off too. I use Siri voice 4 and I had to adjust my rate down to 
40%.

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 18:38, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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>   Ale is present. But the speaking rate is wacky. I did a restart and this 
> time Samantha was speaking as she shoved Alex out the door while eh tried to 
> resist. Very strange. Using the rotor, Alex was still highlighted and came 
> back. Speaking rate still messed up though. This is the most odd upgrade I've 
> ever encountered.
> 
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> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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> On 10/24/2022 4:17 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>> Did we lose Alex with the Ventura update?  I noticed after updating, that 
>> Voiceover defaulted to the Samantha voice, and Alex seems to no longer be in 
>> the list.
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I haven’t used it much but it seems nice to me.
>>> Vo is much snappier.
>>> I wish they could get us more  tts engines than eloquence.
>>> Eloquence is nothing I care for as it does not have the Swedish language.
>>> /A
>>> 
 24 okt. 2022 kl. 21:40 skrev Greg Wocher :
 
 Hello,
 I just got done updating my 14 inch macbook pro and I am loving it so far. 
 My favorite feature is eloquence. I am also noticing that voiceover seems 
 to be a bit snappier with this update. I am also noticing improvements in 
 safari as well.
 
 Greg Wocher
 
 
> On Oct 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> Strange how are you navigating? For me if I go to the conversation group 
> and interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having 
> that issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space.
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go 
>> to a different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I 
>> do love the responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting 
>> with not having to unlock.
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally 
>>> can get rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi 
>>> option is cool.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that 
 macOS Ventura is out.
 So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
 My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
 But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
 Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
 /A
 
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Re: Eloquence on Ventura

2022-10-24 Thread Herbie Allen 
You can definitely get it with the speech menu. Do a VO Command Left or Right 
Arrow to get to voices and VO Command Up or down to go through the list.

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 19:28, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
> 
> So, when I open VO utility, choose speech then the voices tab, I do
> not see anything under that tab. Do I have to go through system
> preferences to use a different voice?
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> TIA
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Eloquence on Ventura

2022-10-24 Thread Yolanda Thompson 
So, when I open VO utility, choose speech then the voices tab, I do
not see anything under that tab. Do I have to go through system
preferences to use a different voice?

TIA

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ring app issues

2022-10-24 Thread sarai.bucciarelli 
Hi all:

I'm running iOS 15.7 with Ring app version 5.54.0. I'm having no issues with
Ring and Voiceover.

A friend has iOS 16.1, and ever since iOS 16 his Ring app, same version will
not read anything but the hamburger menu with Voiceover. He's Reinstalled
the Ring app. We are trying to figure out if this is on Apple's end or
Ring's.? I'm suspecting Apple.

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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
   Ale is present. But the speaking rate is wacky. I did a restart and 
this time Samantha was speaking as she shoved Alex out the door while eh 
tried to resist. Very strange. Using the rotor, Alex was still 
highlighted and came back. Speaking rate still messed up though. This is 
the most odd upgrade I've ever encountered.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/24/2022 4:17 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

Did we lose Alex with the Ventura update?  I noticed after updating, that 
Voiceover defaulted to the Samantha voice, and Alex seems to no longer be in 
the list.


On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I haven’t used it much but it seems nice to me.
Vo is much snappier.
I wish they could get us more  tts engines than eloquence.
Eloquence is nothing I care for as it does not have the Swedish language.
/A


24 okt. 2022 kl. 21:40 skrev Greg Wocher :

Hello,
I just got done updating my 14 inch macbook pro and I am loving it so far. My 
favorite feature is eloquence. I am also noticing that voiceover seems to be a 
bit snappier with this update. I am also noticing improvements in safari as 
well.

Greg Wocher



On Oct 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:

Strange how are you navigating? For me if I go to the conversation group and 
interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having that 
issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space.


On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to a 
different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love the 
responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not having to 
unlock.


On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:

I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can get 
rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option is cool.

Joe


On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that macOS 
Ventura is out.
So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
/A

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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread Herbie Allen 
Yes. They are working fine for me!

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 15:37, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
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> Rogue Amoeba’s web site now says that their apps have updates for Ventura.
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to a 
>> different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love 
>> the responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not 
>> having to unlock.
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can 
>>> get rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option 
>>> is cool.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that 
 macOS Ventura is out.
 So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
 My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
 But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
 Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
 /A
 
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread Jessica Moss 
Did we lose Alex with the Ventura update?  I noticed after updating, that 
Voiceover defaulted to the Samantha voice, and Alex seems to no longer be in 
the list.

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I haven’t used it much but it seems nice to me.
> Vo is much snappier.
> I wish they could get us more  tts engines than eloquence.
> Eloquence is nothing I care for as it does not have the Swedish language.
> /A
> 
>> 24 okt. 2022 kl. 21:40 skrev Greg Wocher :
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I just got done updating my 14 inch macbook pro and I am loving it so far. 
>> My favorite feature is eloquence. I am also noticing that voiceover seems to 
>> be a bit snappier with this update. I am also noticing improvements in 
>> safari as well. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Strange how are you navigating? For me if I go to the conversation group 
>>> and interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having 
>>> that issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space.
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
 
 Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to 
 a different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do 
 love the responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with 
 not having to unlock.
 
> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can 
> get rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi 
> option is cool.
> 
> Joe
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that 
>> macOS Ventura is out.
>> So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
>> My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
>> But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
>> Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
>> /A
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
I haven’t used it much but it seems nice to me.
Vo is much snappier.
I wish they could get us more  tts engines than eloquence.
Eloquence is nothing I care for as it does not have the Swedish language.
/A

> 24 okt. 2022 kl. 21:40 skrev Greg Wocher :
> 
> Hello,
> I just got done updating my 14 inch macbook pro and I am loving it so far. My 
> favorite feature is eloquence. I am also noticing that voiceover seems to be 
> a bit snappier with this update. I am also noticing improvements in safari as 
> well. 
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> 
>> Strange how are you navigating? For me if I go to the conversation group and 
>> interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having that 
>> issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space.
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to a 
>>> different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love 
>>> the responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not 
>>> having to unlock.
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
 
 I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can 
 get rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option 
 is cool.
 
 Joe
 
> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
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> Hi!
> For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that 
> macOS Ventura is out.
> So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
> My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
> But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
> Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
> /A
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
Rogue Amoeba’s web site now says that their apps have updates for Ventura.

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love the 
> responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not having 
> to unlock.
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> 
>> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can get 
>> rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option is 
>> cool.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that macOS 
>>> Ventura is out.
>>> So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
>>> My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
>>> But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
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>>> /A
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread Herbie Allen 
I’ve always been able to VO space on a message without Quick nav. I interact 
with the conversations table, and VO space on the conversation that I want.

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 14:13, joseph hodge  wrote:
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> interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having that 
> issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space.
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to a 
>> different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love 
>> the responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not 
>> having to unlock.
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can 
>>> get rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option 
>>> is cool.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that 
 macOS Ventura is out.
 So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
 My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread Greg Wocher 
Hello,
I just got done updating my 14 inch macbook pro and I am loving it so far. My 
favorite feature is eloquence. I am also noticing that voiceover seems to be a 
bit snappier with this update. I am also noticing improvements in safari as 
well. 

Greg Wocher


> On Oct 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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> Strange how are you navigating? For me if I go to the conversation group and 
> interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having that 
> issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space.
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to a 
>> different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love 
>> the responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not 
>> having to unlock.
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can 
>>> get rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option 
>>> is cool.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that 
 macOS Ventura is out.
 So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
 My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
 But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread joseph hodge 
Strange how are you navigating? For me if I go to the conversation group and 
interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having that 
issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space.

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to a 
> different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love the 
> responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not having 
> to unlock.
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> 
>> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can get 
>> rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option is 
>> cool.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>>> Hi!
>>> For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that macOS 
>>> Ventura is out.
>>> So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
>>> My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
>>> But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
>>> Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
>>> /A
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread Herbie Allen 
Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to a 
different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love the 
responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not having to 
unlock.

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can get 
> rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option is 
> cool.
> 
> Joe
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that macOS 
>> Ventura is out.
>> So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
>> My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
>> But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
>> Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
>> /A
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread joseph hodge 
I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can get 
rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option is cool.

Joe

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that macOS 
> Ventura is out.
> So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
> My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
> But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
> Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
> /A
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MacOs Ventura is Out.

2022-10-24 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that macOS 
Ventura is out.
So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
/A

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