Re: VO not reading that is displayed

2022-12-20 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries


> On Dec 21, 2022, at 14:37, Agent086b  wrote:
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> this is interesting. Firstly how would I do this and secondly what would I 
> loose by doing this?
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Re: VO not reading that is displayed

2022-12-20 Thread Agent086b
Hi,
this is interesting. Firstly how would I do this and secondly what would I 
loose by doing this?
Thanks very much for your help.
Max.

> On 21 Dec 2022, at 13:00, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> On 21/12/22 10:48, Agent086b wrote:
>> I needed to add FN key to your command and indeed it gives me exactly what I 
>> wanted.
> If you configure the system to treat the function keys as F1-F12 rather than 
> as special operations, you won't need to press Fn.
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Re: VO not reading that is displayed

2022-12-20 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries



On 21/12/22 10:48, Agent086b wrote:

I needed to add FN key to your command and indeed it gives me exactly what I 
wanted.
If you configure the system to treat the function keys as F1-F12 rather 
than as special operations, you won't need to press Fn.


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Re: VO not reading that is displayed

2022-12-20 Thread Agent086b
Thanks for the help.
I needed to add FN key to your command and indeed it gives me exactly what I 
wanted.
Max.

> On 21 Dec 2022, at 10:41, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> 
>> On Dec 21, 2022, at 09:32, Agent086b  wrote:
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>> I have my Mac set to display 24hr time on the menu bar.
>> When I press option + T to get the time VO reads AM or Pm time. Why is this 
>> and can I have VO read time the way I want it? I have only noticed this with 
>> my new computer.
> 
> Try using Ctrl-Option-F7 to obtain the time and date. This is new in Mac OS 
> Ventura. I suspect it will give you the desired time format.
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Re: VO not reading that is displayed

2022-12-20 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries



> On Dec 21, 2022, at 09:32, Agent086b  wrote:
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> I have my Mac set to display 24hr time on the menu bar.
> When I press option + T to get the time VO reads AM or Pm time. Why is this 
> and can I have VO read time the way I want it? I have only noticed this with 
> my new computer.

Try using Ctrl-Option-F7 to obtain the time and date. This is new in Mac OS 
Ventura. I suspect it will give you the desired time format.

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Re: VO not reading that is displayed

2022-12-20 Thread Maurice A. mines
Hi  you need  to  pick  Greenwich mean time for  the  time  soon.
Also tern  auto tie  set  off. Pic  25 hour time. This  shud  work it  is  
working  on  my  Mac book  Pro.

Maurice  Mines.

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 22:32, Agent086b  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I have my Mac set to display 24hr time on the menu bar.
> When I press option + T to get the time VO reads AM or Pm time. Why is this 
> and can I have VO read time the way I want it? I have only noticed this with 
> my new computer.
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
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VO not reading that is displayed

2022-12-20 Thread Agent086b
Hi all,
I have my Mac set to display 24hr time on the menu bar.
When I press option + T to get the time VO reads AM or Pm time. Why is this and 
can I have VO read time the way I want it? I have only noticed this with my new 
computer.
Thanks for any advice.
Max.

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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Yes that’s what’s happen for me too.
The only thing I can come up with is to just report things to the accessibility 
team.
/A

> 20 dec. 2022 kl. 17:27 skrev Jessica Moss :
> 
> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging up 
>> a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, it 
>> is quite annoying.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
>>> Very annoying.
>>> /A
>>> 
 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
 :
 
 
 On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it 
> was a bug.
 What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end dictation, 
 instead of the button?
 
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
That reasoning makes sense, but it always worked for me up until iOS 16, so 
something has changed that has made VO less able to distinguish between the 
uses for that gesture.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Luckily, it only does that on my end on occasion, so I’m guessing it’s a bug 
> or a software glitch that can’t be easily fixed, since 1 gesture performs 2 
> different commands, so it would be like being in a room with 2 people with 
> the same name, and having both people answer you unless you call one of them 
> by their last name, or a nickname.
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 11:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That I haven’t seen, at least so far. (Fingers crossed)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Jessica Moss  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
>>> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
>>> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
>>> 
 On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging 
 up a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I 
 agree, it is quite annoying.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
> Very annoying.
> /A
> 
>> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
>>> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
>>> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if 
>>> it was a bug.
>> What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end 
>> dictation, instead of the button?
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Dave Carlson
Yes, this happens to me on occasion, where after dictating I do the magic tap 
and my audio book starts playing. And yes, I need to go to the home page to 
turn off the audio book there, in order to go back to the original app and stop 
the dictation, or re-start as the case may be. Seems to have been an issue for 
at least the last couple minor updates of iOS 16.

Dave Carlson
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On Dec 20, 2022, at 8:58 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Luckily, it only does that on my end on occasion, so I’m guessing it’s a bug or 
a software glitch that can’t be easily fixed, since 1 gesture performs 2 
different commands, so it would be like being in a room with 2 people with the 
same name, and having both people answer you unless you call one of them by 
their last name, or a nickname.

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 11:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That I haven’t seen, at least so far. (Fingers crossed)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
>> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
>> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging 
>>> up a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, 
>>> it is quite annoying.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
 Very annoying.
 /A
 
> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> 
> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
>> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
>> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it 
>> was a bug.
> What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end dictation, 
> instead of the button?
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Jessica Moss
Luckily, it only does that on my end on occasion, so I’m guessing it’s a bug or 
a software glitch that can’t be easily fixed, since 1 gesture performs 2 
different commands, so it would be like being in a room with 2 people with the 
same name, and having both people answer you unless you call one of them by 
their last name, or a nickname.

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 11:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> That I haven’t seen, at least so far. (Fingers crossed)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
>> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
>> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging 
>>> up a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, 
>>> it is quite annoying.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
 Very annoying.
 /A
 
> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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>> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
>> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it 
>> was a bug.
> What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end dictation, 
> instead of the button?
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
That I haven’t seen, at least so far. (Fingers crossed)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging up 
>> a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, it 
>> is quite annoying.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
>>> Very annoying.
>>> /A
>>> 
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> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it 
> was a bug.
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Jessica Moss
You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but the 
catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging up 
> a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, it 
> is quite annoying.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
>> Very annoying.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging up a 
phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, it is 
quite annoying.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
> Very annoying.
> /A
> 
>> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
Very annoying.
/A

> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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