Re: App for using Facebook on the mack

[joseph hudson]

Try using go for Facebook. That is the one that is available for the Mac.

> On Apr 13, 2023, at 5:26 PM, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:
> 
> What is the app?  It is ok if it is clunky at times.
> Becky 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 11:34 PM, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> As Herbie said, you have to use the website. There used to be an app called 
>> Trillian that worked very well with Facebook but unfortunately, like 
>> Twitter, Facebook discontinued support for third party apps. With that being 
>> said however, there is a Mac app for Facebook Messenger on the app store. 
>> It's very clunky at times but it is usable. HTH.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 1:47 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You have to use the website in Safari, but it is usable there, especially 
>>> the mobile site.
>>> 
 On Apr 5, 2023, at 13:47, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:
 
 Hi all ,
 I was wondering if their is a accessible app to use with Facebook on the 
 mack?  If not do you just have to go too their website ?  I was just 
 wondering what the easiest way to use it on the mack .
 Thanks again 
 Becky 
 
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Re: Need some help

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

Pretty cool.  I never looked in the menu when I was actually copying and 
moving.  I will have to check this out.

So there are ways to see how to do it once you already know how to do it.  I 
will write to Apple about it.  They are always very professional, whether you 
are asking about a new feature, reporting a bug, or whatever.  

> On Apr 14, 2023, at 4:25 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> When in Finder, Move will appear in the Edit menu if you hold down the Option 
> key while Paste is in focus, and an item has previously been selected using 
> copy (CMD + C).
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
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> On Apr 14, 2023, at 14:07, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that was my concern.  As VoiceOver users, most of us depend on the 
> keyboard commands more than the average sighted person does.  So generally, I 
> assume that they are accurate in the menus, whether they are dimmed or not, 
> whether they are consistent with other parts of the operating system or not.  
> I usually go to the menus to get this kind of information and rely on its 
> accuracy and usability.  So it would be nice if Apple would at least add move 
> to the edit menu in the Finder, but it is up to them.  I will keep copying 
> and moving my folders and files with Command c followed by command option V, 
> whether it ever shows up in the menus or not!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> My reading from your last message is that you want to know why there is a 
>> cut command in the Edit menu of Finder and yet it does not work.
>> This is for consistency sake, when one creates a program in MacOs, the 
>> system provides some default menus.
>> The Apple, Application, File, Edit Window and Help menus are available in in 
>> all applications, and most of the items within those menus are also standard 
>> and have default positions. All the developer can do is disable items that 
>> are not relevant like cut in the Finder, or copy and cut when nothing is 
>> selected.
>> 
>> Every Macintosh since 1991 has had an Edit menu with Cut Copy and Paste in 
>> that order and for probably the last 20 years, the Undo and Re-Do commands 
>> were added above the cut command. If you look at the Edit menu in the finder 
>> it should say, cut dimmed, this means that the cut operation is not 
>> currently available.
>> 
>> Cheeers! 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 8:28 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t know why I am still seeing cut command x in the edit menu of my 
>>> Finder.  I am running Ventura 13.3.1.  Am I somehow doing something wrong?  
>>> Anyway, I do know to copy and move files and do it all the time.  I just 
>>> don’t understand why I see cut in the edit menu in the finder.  It seems 
>>> sort of weird.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2023, at 7:23 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 The commands are correct. Command C to copy. Command + Option + V to move 
 instead of paste.
 
 On 4/13/2023 5:43 PM, Rebecca Sabo wrote:
> Hi ,
> Maybe I was not clear.  I want to cut a document and move it to a folder. 
>  What is the command for it?  I tried doing a command x and it did not do 
> it.  I do not no if I did something wrong.
> Thanks
> Becky
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Herbie Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Command C to copy and Command Option V to move to the folder.
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 17:14, Rebecca Sabo >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was wondering what is the command to cut a document to move it to a 
>>> folder in documents?  Thanks
>>> Becky Sabo
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Re: Need some help

[Brad Snyder]

When in Finder, Move will appear in the Edit menu if you hold down the Option 
key while Paste is in focus, and an item has previously been selected using 
copy (CMD + C).

HTH.

- Brad -



On Apr 14, 2023, at 14:07, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Yes, that was my concern.  As VoiceOver users, most of us depend on the 
keyboard commands more than the average sighted person does.  So generally, I 
assume that they are accurate in the menus, whether they are dimmed or not, 
whether they are consistent with other parts of the operating system or not.  I 
usually go to the menus to get this kind of information and rely on its 
accuracy and usability.  So it would be nice if Apple would at least add move 
to the edit menu in the Finder, but it is up to them.  I will keep copying and 
moving my folders and files with Command c followed by command option V, 
whether it ever shows up in the menus or not!





> On Apr 13, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> My reading from your last message is that you want to know why there is a cut 
> command in the Edit menu of Finder and yet it does not work.
> This is for consistency sake, when one creates a program in MacOs, the system 
> provides some default menus.
> The Apple, Application, File, Edit Window and Help menus are available in in 
> all applications, and most of the items within those menus are also standard 
> and have default positions. All the developer can do is disable items that 
> are not relevant like cut in the Finder, or copy and cut when nothing is 
> selected.
> 
> Every Macintosh since 1991 has had an Edit menu with Cut Copy and Paste in 
> that order and for probably the last 20 years, the Undo and Re-Do commands 
> were added above the cut command. If you look at the Edit menu in the finder 
> it should say, cut dimmed, this means that the cut operation is not currently 
> available.
> 
> Cheeers! 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 8:28 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t know why I am still seeing cut command x in the edit menu of my 
>> Finder.  I am running Ventura 13.3.1.  Am I somehow doing something wrong?  
>> Anyway, I do know to copy and move files and do it all the time.  I just 
>> don’t understand why I see cut in the edit menu in the finder.  It seems 
>> sort of weird.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 7:23 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The commands are correct. Command C to copy. Command + Option + V to move 
>>> instead of paste.
>>> 
>>> On 4/13/2023 5:43 PM, Rebecca Sabo wrote:
 Hi ,
 Maybe I was not clear.  I want to cut a document and move it to a folder.  
 What is the command for it?  I tried doing a command x and it did not do 
 it.  I do not no if I did something wrong.
 Thanks
 Becky
 
> On Apr 13, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Herbie Allen  > wrote:
> 
> Command C to copy and Command Option V to move to the folder.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 17:14, Rebecca Sabo > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was wondering what is the command to cut a document to move it to a 
>> folder in documents?  Thanks
>> Becky Sabo
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Re: Need some help

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On 4/14/2023 12:07 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Yes, that was my concern.  As VoiceOver users, most of us depend on the 
keyboard commands more than the average sighted person does.  So 
generally, I assume that they are accurate in the menus, whether they 
are dimmed or not, whether they are consistent with other parts of the 
operating system or not.  I usually go to the menus to get this kind of 
information and rely on its accuracy and usability.  So it would be nice 
if Apple would at least add move to the edit menu in the Finder, but it 
is up to them.  I will keep copying and moving my folders and files with 
Command c followed by command option V, whether it ever shows up in the 
menus or not!







On Apr 13, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Hello Mary,
My reading from your last message is that you want to know why there 
is a cut command in the Edit menu of Finder and yet it does not work.
This is for consistency sake, when one creates a program in MacOs, the 
system provides some default menus.
The Apple, Application, File, Edit Window and Help menus are available 
in in all applications, and most of the items within those menus are 
also standard and have default positions. All the developer can do is 
disable items that are not relevant like cut in the Finder, or copy 
and cut when nothing is selected.


Every Macintosh since 1991 has had an Edit menu with Cut Copy and 
Paste in that order and for probably the last 20 years, the Undo and 
Re-Do commands were added above the cut command. If you look at the 
Edit menu in the finder it should say, cut dimmed, this means that the 
cut operation is not currently available.


Cheeers!
Jonathan Cohn



On Apr 13, 2023, at 8:28 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


I don’t know why I am still seeing cut command x in the edit menu of 
my Finder.  I am running Ventura 13.3.1.  Am I somehow doing 
something wrong?  Anyway, I do know to copy and move files and do it 
all the time.  I just don’t understand why I see cut in the edit menu 
in the finder.  It seems sort of weird.







On Apr 13, 2023, at 7:23 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


The commands are correct. Command C to copy. Command + Option + V to 
move instead of paste.


On 4/13/2023 5:43 PM, Rebecca Sabo wrote:

Hi ,
Maybe I was not clear.  I want to cut a document and move it to a 
folder.  What is the command for it?  I tried doing a command x and 
it did not do it.  I do not no if I did something wrong.

Thanks
Becky

On Apr 13, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Herbie Allen > wrote:


Command C to copy and Command Option V to move to the folder.

On Apr 13, 2023, at 17:14, Rebecca Sabo > wrote:


Hi all,
I was wondering what is the command to cut a document to move it 
to a folder in documents?  Thanks

Becky Sabo

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Re: Need some help

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, that was my concern.  As VoiceOver users, most of us depend on the 
keyboard commands more than the average sighted person does.  So generally, I 
assume that they are accurate in the menus, whether they are dimmed or not, 
whether they are consistent with other parts of the operating system or not.  I 
usually go to the menus to get this kind of information and rely on its 
accuracy and usability.  So it would be nice if Apple would at least add move 
to the edit menu in the Finder, but it is up to them.  I will keep copying and 
moving my folders and files with Command c followed by command option V, 
whether it ever shows up in the menus or not!





> On Apr 13, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> My reading from your last message is that you want to know why there is a cut 
> command in the Edit menu of Finder and yet it does not work.
> This is for consistency sake, when one creates a program in MacOs, the system 
> provides some default menus.
> The Apple, Application, File, Edit Window and Help menus are available in in 
> all applications, and most of the items within those menus are also standard 
> and have default positions. All the developer can do is disable items that 
> are not relevant like cut in the Finder, or copy and cut when nothing is 
> selected.
> 
> Every Macintosh since 1991 has had an Edit menu with Cut Copy and Paste in 
> that order and for probably the last 20 years, the Undo and Re-Do commands 
> were added above the cut command. If you look at the Edit menu in the finder 
> it should say, cut dimmed, this means that the cut operation is not currently 
> available.
> 
> Cheeers! 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 8:28 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t know why I am still seeing cut command x in the edit menu of my 
>> Finder.  I am running Ventura 13.3.1.  Am I somehow doing something wrong?  
>> Anyway, I do know to copy and move files and do it all the time.  I just 
>> don’t understand why I see cut in the edit menu in the finder.  It seems 
>> sort of weird.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 7:23 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The commands are correct. Command C to copy. Command + Option + V to move 
>>> instead of paste.
>>> 
>>> On 4/13/2023 5:43 PM, Rebecca Sabo wrote:
 Hi ,
 Maybe I was not clear.  I want to cut a document and move it to a folder.  
 What is the command for it?  I tried doing a command x and it did not do 
 it.  I do not no if I did something wrong.
 Thanks
 Becky
 
> On Apr 13, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Herbie Allen  > wrote:
> 
> Command C to copy and Command Option V to move to the folder.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2023, at 17:14, Rebecca Sabo > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was wondering what is the command to cut a document to move it to a 
>> folder in documents?  Thanks
>> Becky Sabo
>> 
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How to create a mail box for sharing between IOS and Mac/OS

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello,
I am running the latest versions of IOS and Mac/OS. I have an archive mail box 
which is shared between IOS and Mac/OS. This now contains mail some of which is 
archived relating to me and some of which is archived relating to my wife. This 
single mail box is becoming difficult to manage. I would like to have separate 
mail boxes for my archive and my wife’s archive.
Is there any way to do this?
Many thanks for any tips.
Paul Hopewell

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Re: How Do I Get Into Input Mode for Excel

[Dave Carlson]

Bill,
Are you on a a Mac or iPhone?
On the Mac, I think you just interact with the cell with VO-downarrow, or you 
can use the F2 key just like in a Windows environment. I find that many of the 
keyboard shortcuts from Windows work in Excel on a Mac.

Dave Carlson
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On Apr 14, 2023, at 8:05 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:

This is quite embarrassing to ask, but how do you get into the input mode in 
MS-Excel?  Every once in a while I find myself in input mode, but I just cannot 
figure out the method for doing this.


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How Do I Get Into Input Mode for Excel

[Bill Gallik]

This is quite embarrassing to ask, but how do you get into the input mode in 
MS-Excel?  Every once in a while I find myself in input mode, but I just cannot 
figure out the method for doing this.


- Bill from Bayfield County, Wisconsin
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