Re: mac app store

[Herbie Allen]

Just VO J or Vo Right and interact with the results table.

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 18:59, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I’d like to know how to find “Just Press Record” in the Mac app store. I can 
> search for it but I can’t find the search results. I’m running Ventura if 
> that matters.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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[Lorie McCloud]

I’d like to know how to find “Just Press Record” in the Mac app store. I can 
search for it but I can’t find the search results. I’m running Ventura if that 
matters.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: How to open an App from an unknown developer in Ventura

[Simon Cavendish]

Hi Paul,

the way I’ve always gone round this problem is to invoke contextual menu while 
focused on the name of the app in the application folder and choosing to open 
it from there.  You get a warning with the cancel button as the rightmost 
element but before the cancel button there will be the “open’ button and you 
vo+spacebar on that one.  This should do the trick.

Simon 

> On 15 Jan 2024, at 19:30, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I am running Ventura 13.6.3 on my 1997 iMac.
> I want to run an App from an unidentified developer. IN the past I could go 
> to my gateway settings and choose from App store or from identified developer 
> or App store or open anyway. The option to open anyway is no longer there.
> So how can I open such an App using VoiceOver?I am confident that the App is 
> OK.
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: My review after spending two weeks with the Activator braille display

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hey Scott,

They have updated the manual, and I *think* that it talks about TalkBack now.  
But I no longer have the device, so can’t confirm that.

And wow!  What a cool new feature in iOS 17.  I was unaware of it.  And you’re 
right, that does diminish the coolness factor of the dock a bit, though I still 
like the apps option, where you can have your favorite apps all right there.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 8:56 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna.
> Unless they have very recently upddated the manual, the section on
> Android talks about BrailleBack and how to set this up. The problem is
> that, though the BrailleBack app is still available on some 3rd party
> stores, it's not available on the Google Play Store. TalkBack as of
> 2022 has direct support for braille displays.
> The feature with pressing enter, typing in the app name and so forth
> is available with iOS 17 and any supported display.
> 
> I hope these things help clerify,
> Scott
> 
> On 1/14/24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> I’m a little surprised Mike didn’t get back to you.  He was extremely
>> helpful to me, and very responsive to my questions.  Damian is less
>> responsive it seems, but since Mike is in charge of tech support, it wasn’t
>> too much of a big deal. But for what it’s worth, I sent quite a few messages
>> to Helptech in Germany while I was trying to sort through things.  It was
>> during Christmas, of course, and their offices were closed until the 8.  But
>> it’s been a week now, and I still haven’t received a response to any of my
>> messages.  I didn’t want to include that in the review, but that would seem
>> to be yet another reason not to purchase an Activator.
>> 
>> I did read the section in the Manual on Android briefly.  From what I saw,
>> it just talked about using it with Android via bluetooth.  But since I had
>> no way to confirm that, I also didn’t want to include it.
>> 
>> What do you mean by your comment that Launching apps is as simple as
>> pressing dot 8 and then typing the app name?  Which display are you talking
>> about there?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 9:35 AM, Scott Davert 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice review, Donna!
>>> Part of why I have not published an article on this device is because
>>> Dream Vision never responded to a couple of questions I had. One of them
>>> being the lack of ability to connect to Android. I was hoping to get
>>> official confirmation of this before throwing it into the universe, but
>>> here we are.
>>> I agree, for that much money, it has quite a bit of progress to make
>>> before it's ready for the masses. It feels like a beta device to me. The
>>> file transfer thing with the dock is neat. However, USB-C support is
>>> emerging for other devices, so that's not unique. The news service is, but
>>> launching apps is now as simple as pressing dot 8, typing the first word
>>> of the app, and then activating it. 2 years ago, this would have been a
>>> huge hit, though. The easiest way to check the battery status is when you
>>> turn the Activator on. It's displayed as part of the opening message or
>>> whatever you want to call it. What would have been the harm in creating a
>>> keyboard shortcut to check the battery status like what is found on every
>>> other device out there?
>>> 
>>> Just my perspective,
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:28 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> wrote:
 Hi Sabahattin,
 
 You’re welcome.  The interface with the iPhone is definitely worth being
 excited about.  But I came to the conclusion that it didn’t offset the
 other minuses, as you can tell.  I find it strange and ironic that they
 designed this display that is clearly intended to function in the
 Appleverse, and then tied it to a PC for things like updating.  I get
 that people with iPhones do have PCs, but you’d think that they would
 have made either an iPhone or a Mac updating method available.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
> On Jan 10, 2024, at 2:41 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
>  > wrote:
> 
> Thank you for an excellent review, Donnah.
> 
> I guess unsurprisingly, the part that interests me most is
> thecombination of iPhone and Activator, since that's clearly the
> dominant use case, but the assembly sounds rather brittle and then the
> issue of newer USB-C iphones. I won't be buying any time soon, but I'd
> be interested to see how this develops.
> 
> Some of the other stuff is rather less inspiring though. Windows is at
> fault for the USB issues, though presumably that will get fixed,
> however the requirement to use Windows to update firmware just makes me
> sad. Again, I hope there's a fix, in some not-too-distant future. The
> interface sounds rather primitive though, which strikes me as 

Re: My review after spending two weeks with the Activator braille display

[Scott Davert]

Hi Donna.
Unless they have very recently upddated the manual, the section on
Android talks about BrailleBack and how to set this up. The problem is
that, though the BrailleBack app is still available on some 3rd party
stores, it's not available on the Google Play Store. TalkBack as of
2022 has direct support for braille displays.
The feature with pressing enter, typing in the app name and so forth
is available with iOS 17 and any supported display.

I hope these things help clerify,
Scott

On 1/14/24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> I’m a little surprised Mike didn’t get back to you.  He was extremely
> helpful to me, and very responsive to my questions.  Damian is less
> responsive it seems, but since Mike is in charge of tech support, it wasn’t
> too much of a big deal. But for what it’s worth, I sent quite a few messages
> to Helptech in Germany while I was trying to sort through things.  It was
> during Christmas, of course, and their offices were closed until the 8.  But
> it’s been a week now, and I still haven’t received a response to any of my
> messages.  I didn’t want to include that in the review, but that would seem
> to be yet another reason not to purchase an Activator.
>
> I did read the section in the Manual on Android briefly.  From what I saw,
> it just talked about using it with Android via bluetooth.  But since I had
> no way to confirm that, I also didn’t want to include it.
>
> What do you mean by your comment that Launching apps is as simple as
> pressing dot 8 and then typing the app name?  Which display are you talking
> about there?
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 9:35 AM, Scott Davert 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Nice review, Donna!
>> Part of why I have not published an article on this device is because
>> Dream Vision never responded to a couple of questions I had. One of them
>> being the lack of ability to connect to Android. I was hoping to get
>> official confirmation of this before throwing it into the universe, but
>> here we are.
>> I agree, for that much money, it has quite a bit of progress to make
>> before it's ready for the masses. It feels like a beta device to me. The
>> file transfer thing with the dock is neat. However, USB-C support is
>> emerging for other devices, so that's not unique. The news service is, but
>> launching apps is now as simple as pressing dot 8, typing the first word
>> of the app, and then activating it. 2 years ago, this would have been a
>> huge hit, though. The easiest way to check the battery status is when you
>> turn the Activator on. It's displayed as part of the opening message or
>> whatever you want to call it. What would have been the harm in creating a
>> keyboard shortcut to check the battery status like what is found on every
>> other device out there?
>>
>> Just my perspective,
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 5:28 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Sabahattin,
>>>
>>> You’re welcome.  The interface with the iPhone is definitely worth being
>>> excited about.  But I came to the conclusion that it didn’t offset the
>>> other minuses, as you can tell.  I find it strange and ironic that they
>>> designed this display that is clearly intended to function in the
>>> Appleverse, and then tied it to a PC for things like updating.  I get
>>> that people with iPhones do have PCs, but you’d think that they would
>>> have made either an iPhone or a Mac updating method available.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> > On Jan 10, 2024, at 2:41 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
>>> > >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for an excellent review, Donnah.
>>> >
>>> > I guess unsurprisingly, the part that interests me most is
>>> > thecombination of iPhone and Activator, since that's clearly the
>>> > dominant use case, but the assembly sounds rather brittle and then the
>>> > issue of newer USB-C iphones. I won't be buying any time soon, but I'd
>>> > be interested to see how this develops.
>>> >
>>> > Some of the other stuff is rather less inspiring though. Windows is at
>>> > fault for the USB issues, though presumably that will get fixed,
>>> > however the requirement to use Windows to update firmware just makes me
>>> > sad. Again, I hope there's a fix, in some not-too-distant future. The
>>> > interface sounds rather primitive though, which strikes me as a bit of
>>> > a red flag seeing as how it's supposed to improve on the iPhone for
>>> > editing tasks. All the technology in the world can't help if it's not
>>> > efficient to use for that, and since the whole point is to marry that
>>> > efficiency with your existing phone's functionality, rather than
>>> > replacing it, they probably need to improve their software considerably
>>> > for me to consider switching away from a Focus or any display with
>>> > stored Braille input capability. Again, I'll be interested to see how
>>> > others find it