Testing the email problem.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
I just changed the email settings and hope this gets to the list correctly.
No need. To reply.


Danny

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Re: Amadeus Pro Question

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hi Janet,

Yes I did and I gave it a try and it didn't work.



Danny

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> 
> hi Dan,
> Did you read Robert Carter’s posts about how to insert the sentence?  I knew 
> there was an easier way, but I just couldn’t think of it.
> 
> Janet
>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Janet,
>> It works, but wow! I guess I'll go back to using Studio Recorder in 
>> Windows. After all you can copy and paste like you do in word processing and 
>> nothing really complex to do. And I don't really need multi track recording 
>> for the kind of recordings I make.
>> Even though Studio Recorder is a rather old application it does all I want 
>> it to do and then some.
>> 
>> I wish it would have been ported to the mac os.
>> Again, thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There might be an easier way but here is what you can do:
>>> 1. Create a new blank track.
>>> 2. Play the original track until you get to where you want to  insert the 
>>> sentence.
>>> 3. Type the letter P to mark that spot.
>>> 4. Type Command-Left Arrow. VoiceOver will say, “Extend to previous marker. 
>>> The previous marker. is the beginning of the track in this case.
>>> 5.  Type Command-C to copy the selected material.
>>> 6. Use Command-V to paste it into the new track.
>>> 7. Paste the sentence into the new track.
>>> 8. Go back into the original track and place a marker after where the new 
>>> sentence would go  and type Command-Right Arrow. Then copy the file and 
>>> paste it after the sentence.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if this makes sence.
>>> 
>>> Janet
>>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 12:51 PM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Janet,
>>>> Actually, all I want to do is to insert in the middle of the file an 
>>>> additional sentence. At this point it is just a single track file.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Danny
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Danny,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you want to insert the voice without the music playing  or have the 
>>>>> voice on top of the music? Let me know and I’ll give you the procedure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>> Janet
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:30 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> I am considering amadeus pro.
>>>>>> I am using it during its trial period.
>>>>>> Here’s my question.
>>>>>> I have recorded a sound file, a voice file. Now, I wish to add a bit 
>>>>>> somewhere in the middle. As a VoiceOver user, how would I do this with 
>>>>>> the keyboard?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
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Re: Amadeus Pro Question

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello Janet,
It works, but wow! I guess I'll go back to using Studio Recorder in 
Windows. After all you can copy and paste like you do in word processing and 
nothing really complex to do. And I don't really need multi track recording for 
the kind of recordings I make.
Even though Studio Recorder is a rather old application it does all I want it 
to do and then some.

I wish it would have been ported to the mac os.
Again, thanks.


Danny

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> 
> There might be an easier way but here is what you can do:
> 1. Create a new blank track.
> 2. Play the original track until you get to where you want to  insert the 
> sentence.
> 3. Type the letter P to mark that spot.
> 4. Type Command-Left Arrow. VoiceOver will say, “Extend to previous marker. 
> The previous marker. is the beginning of the track in this case.
> 5.  Type Command-C to copy the selected material.
> 6. Use Command-V to paste it into the new track.
> 7. Paste the sentence into the new track.
> 8. Go back into the original track and place a marker after where the new 
> sentence would go  and type Command-Right Arrow. Then copy the file and paste 
> it after the sentence.
> 
> Let me know if this makes sence.
> 
> Janet
>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 12:51 PM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Janet,
>> Actually, all I want to do is to insert in the middle of the file an 
>> additional sentence. At this point it is just a single track file.
>> 
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Danny,
>>> 
>>> Do you want to insert the voice without the music playing  or have the 
>>> voice on top of the music? Let me know and I’ll give you the procedure.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Janet
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:30 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> I am considering amadeus pro.
>>>> I am using it during its trial period.
>>>> Here’s my question.
>>>> I have recorded a sound file, a voice file. Now, I wish to add a bit 
>>>> somewhere in the middle. As a VoiceOver user, how would I do this with the 
>>>> keyboard?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
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Re: Amadeus Pro Question

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Janet,
Actually, all I want to do is to insert in the middle of the file an additional 
sentence. At this point it is just a single track file.


Danny

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> 
> Hi Danny,
> 
> Do you want to insert the voice without the music playing  or have the voice 
> on top of the music? Let me know and I’ll give you the procedure.
> 
> Take care,
> Janet
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:30 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I am considering amadeus pro.
>> I am using it during its trial period.
>> Here’s my question.
>> I have recorded a sound file, a voice file. Now, I wish to add a bit 
>> somewhere in the middle. As a VoiceOver user, how would I do this with the 
>> keyboard?
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: Keyboard Commands for Zoom on my Mac

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Hi Kerryann,
Thanks a bunch, I really appreciate it. I am just getting started with zoom, so 
this will really help.


Danny

> On Aug 20, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Kerryann Ifill  wrote:
> 
> Hi I’ve pasted them below
> Computing | Digital Trends - Friday, April 3, 2020 at 5:51 PM
> 
> Best Zoom keyboard shortcuts to make you a video conferencing expert
> Jumping into a Zoom meeting is a great way to attend a meeting or webinar 
> remotely, or even connect with distant friends and family across the globe. 
> The best part of Zoom is that it’s free for basic meetings holding up to 100 
> people. If you want to learn how to become a Zoom master, we have assembled a 
> list of Zoom keyboard shortcuts that you can use to manage your meeting, 
> control your audio-video settings, and communicate with others, all with a 
> simple keystroke.
> 
> View keyboard shortcuts in Zoom
> While we have assembled all of Zoom’s keyboard shortcuts for Mac, PC, Linux, 
> and iOS below, you can also access a full list of shortcuts within the Zoom 
> desktop client itself. If you are running Zoom on your desktop computer, log 
> in to Zoom, then click on your profile photo in the upper-right corner, 
> select Settings from the drop-down list, and click Keyboard Shortcuts.
> 
> Zoom keyboard shortcuts on Mac
> Luke Larsen / Digital Trends
> 
> If you’re using a Mac to run Zoom, the following keyboard shortcuts will work 
> with desktop client versions 3.5.19877.0701 or higher. To obtain the latest 
> version of the Zoom desktop client for your Mac, visit the Zoom website.
> 
> Getting started with your meeting:
> 
> Command + J: Join meeting
> Command + Control + V: Start meeting
> Command + D: Schedule meeting
> Command + Control + S: Screen share via direct share
> Command + W: Prompt to end or leave meeting
> Control your audio and video:
> 
> Command + Shift + A: Mute/unmute audio
> Command + Control + M: Mute audio for everyone except the host
> Command + Control + U: Unmute audio for everyone except host
> Space: Push to talk
> Command + Shift + V: Start/stop video
> Command + Shift + N: Switch camera
> Command + Shift + S: Start/stop screen share
> Command + Shift + T: Pause or resume screen share
> Recording the meeting:
> 
> Command + Shift + R: Start local recording
> Command + Shift + C: Start cloud recording
> Command + Shift + P: Pause or resume recording
> Command + T: Screenshot
> Control your view:
> 
> Command + Shift + W: Switch to active speaker view or gallery view
> Control + P: View previous 25 participants in gallery view
> Control + N: View next 25 participants in gallery view
> Command + U: Display/hide participants panel
> Command + Shift + H: Show/hide in-meeting chat panel
> Command + I: Open invite window
> Command + W: Close the current window
> Command + L: Switch to portrait or landscape view
> Ctrl + T: Switch from one tab to the next
> Command + Shift + F: Enter or exit full-screen
> Command + Shift + M: Switch to minimal window
> Ctrl + Option + Command + H: Show/hide meeting controls
> Communicate with others:
> 
> Option + Y: Raise hand/lower hand
> Ctrl + Shift + R: Gain remote control
> Ctrl + Shift + G: Stop remote control
> Command + K: Jump to chat with someone
> 
>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 6:18 PM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Well, as the subject says. I am looking for a list of all the keyboard 
>> commands for using Zoom with VoiceOver on my mac.
>> Does anyone know of, or have a list of these commands?
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Danny
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Keyboard Commands for Zoom on my Mac

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
Well, as the subject says. I am looking for a list of all the keyboard commands 
for using Zoom with VoiceOver on my mac.
Does anyone know of, or have a list of these commands?
Thanks.


Danny

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Re: Mac Mini Builtin Speaker

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Hi,
I also have a 2018 year mac mini and I love it.
As far as the speaker, at first when I got it, it was kind of crackely. Then 
after a software pdate, the problem went away.
I also have installed windows 10 onn it. In windows, the speaker really 
stuttered. But I read that that was also a problem with windows.
So I got a usb external sound card for about 9 bucks or so. It works really 
great either i n windows or mac. The speaker problem in windows has been 
corrected at some point over the last year or so.
Back to the internal speaker.
It is in the back, the sound comes out just below the connections.
As far as I'm concerned, If for some reason I needed another mac, it would be 
another mac mini.

HTH.


Danny

> On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Matthew Dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I have a 2018 mac mini and the sound is just fine for speech.  I usually just 
> put the sound all the way up but even with that it works fine.  If not, there 
> is a headset jack  whare you could plugin a cheep speaker if need be, but I 
> find the sound quility HTH.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/24/20 4:39 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> Wondering whether anyone here has experience of the newer, 2018
>> generation Mac Mini. I'm particularly interested in the builtin speaker.
>> Is it adequate for Voice Over use? Is the volume and sound quality
>> adequate for TTS? Where is the speaker located on the unit physically?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any guidance. I'm contemplating placing an order
>> for one of these loaded to the gills.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
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Re: Using an android phone with 2 step authentication

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Hi,
That's good to know. I was quite shure that it would work, but just wanted to 
ask.
I'll probably get the pixel 4 a when it comes out in a few months.
BTW, I like your youtube demos of android.



Danny

> On Feb 24, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> 
> Hi, yes you can do this. I have a Google Pixel phone as my primary device 
> and there are no issues.
> 
> 
>> On 2/24/2020 11:15 AM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hello list,
>> I’m planning on getting a Pixel phone. Here’s the question.
>> Will I be able to use it for responding to 2 step authentication on my Mac 
>> Mini. Fo example, If I need to reformat the Mac, can I use the android phone 
>> to get the 2 step code?
>> Thanks.
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Re: i'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro retina 2014 that's mid2014 to Catalina

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hello list and everyone who's help.

 well, here's the outcome of my situation.

I did contact Apple today. We went through several procedures and I wasn't able 
to update to Catalina. however, Mojave is still on the system now.

Apple suspects there is something wrong internally in my computer because they 
stated that it should upgrade to Catalina with no problems.

Even when Apple was helping me, they got the same error that I got in that the 
system was not properly configured.

The suggestion is that I should take it to an Apple store and have it looked at 
to see what's wrong with it.

However I decided not to do that, because I don't wanna spend any additional 
money on this computer. For the more because we don't drive we have to get 
somebody to take us to a store.

They however did not mention about sending us a box to send it in so at this 
point I'm gonna leave it at that.

Thanks everybody for helping.



Danny

> On Jan 13, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> Maybe try going to HS or Mojave firt.
> 
> 
>> On 1/13/2020 12:45 PM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>  hello,
>> 
>> As I mentioned this is a mid 2014 year model we purchased it on January 31 
>> of 2015
>> 
>>  
>> Danny
>> 
>>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 12:56 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What age is your machine?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Sent: Monday, 13 January 2020 3:58 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: i'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro retina 2014 that's 
>>> mid2014 to Catalina
>>> 
>>> hello list,
>>> 
>>> So what I have is Yosemite 10.10.5.
>>> 
>>> I log into the App Store downloaded Catalina, but I am unable to install it.
>>> 
>>> Reason it says my system is not configured properly. And by the way I 
>>> couldn't read this with voiceover somebody sided had to tell me this.
>>> 
>>> So it tells me my system is configured properly but it doesn't tell me how 
>>> to configure it or where to go to get the information to configure it.
>>> 
>>> So it looks like I'm probably stuck with Yosemite on this machine.
>>> 
>>> Any more suggestions.
>>> 
>>> And by the way guys I appreciate everyone's help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Danny
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 4:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yosemite
>> 
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Re: i'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro retina 2014 that's mid2014 to Catalina

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 hello,

As I mentioned this is a mid 2014 year model we purchased it on January 31 of 
2015

 

Danny

> On Jan 13, 2020, at 12:56 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> What age is your machine?
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, 13 January 2020 3:58 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: i'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro retina 2014 that's 
> mid2014 to Catalina
> 
> hello list,
> 
> So what I have is Yosemite 10.10.5.
> 
> I log into the App Store downloaded Catalina, but I am unable to install it.
> 
> Reason it says my system is not configured properly. And by the way I 
> couldn't read this with voiceover somebody sided had to tell me this.
> 
> So it tells me my system is configured properly but it doesn't tell me how to 
> configure it or where to go to get the information to configure it.
> 
> So it looks like I'm probably stuck with Yosemite on this machine.
> 
> Any more suggestions.
> 
> And by the way guys I appreciate everyone's help.
> 
> 
> 
> Danny
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 4:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yosemite
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Re: i'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro retina 2014 that's mid2014 to Catalina

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hello list,

So what I have is Yosemite 10.10.5.

I log into the App Store downloaded Catalina, but I am unable to install it.

Reason it says my system is not configured properly. And by the way I couldn't 
read this with voiceover somebody sided had to tell me this.

So it tells me my system is configured properly but it doesn't tell me how to 
configure it or where to go to get the information to configure it.

So it looks like I'm probably stuck with Yosemite on this machine.

Any more suggestions.

And by the way guys I appreciate everyone's help.



Danny

> On Jan 12, 2020, at 4:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Yosemite

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Re: i'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro retina 2014 that's mid2014 to Catalina

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello Mark and list,

Thanks.
Now, I need to reformat the SSD, because I really messed it up.
How do I get a complete download on-line.

If I restart the MBP with one of the other options such as Command Option r, 
will this allow me to get a new OS? I asked, because I read some stuff on Apple 
and when I followed the instructions, I wound up with Os 10.10.
I suppose I need to talk with Apple. The closest store is 100 miles away and 
neither of us drive.
I'd also be willing to discuss this with some one over the phone if any one is 
interested in directing me.
I've never messed up a SSD like I did this time.
The other thing is this. I really don't want to put a lot of money into this, 
because the battery is starting to go. But it would really be nice if I could 
keep it running a while longer.
Later.



Danny

> On Jan 12, 2020, at 11:42 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dan,
> 
> Tim and others will most likely have a more comprehensive answer but as I 
> have a mid-2014 MBP running Catalina, I can tell you that Catalina runs on 
> mid-2014 units, perfectly.
> 
> I don't know how you updated your Mac but, somewhere during the Mojave 
> life-cycle, Apple changed the formatting of the internal SSD drives.  This 
> change in file format was / is crucial to the successful installation of 
> Catalina.  
> 
> Give Apple a call and do some Google searches to make certain that your 
> current drive format is compatible with Catalina.  
> 
> Let us know how it goes.
> 
> Oh, by the way, this change in format did not apply to spinning drives.   So, 
> I'm assuming you are attempting to install Catalina on the Mac's SSD internal 
> drive.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:10 PM
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> Subject: i'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro retina 2014 that's 
> mid2014 to Catalina
> 
> hello list,
> 
> As the subject says, I'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro mid 2014 to 
> Catalina.
> 
> first off, I downloaded the Catalina update and when I tried to run it it 
> wouldn't let me run it and said my machine wasn't configured properly.
> 
> secondly, I did attempted to do a clean install. With the eight PFS volume 
> said I still was unable to upgrade the only thing it would do was install 
> Mojave it would not let me install Catalina.
> 
> does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> 
> 
> 
> Danny
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i'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro retina 2014 that's mid2014 to Catalina

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hello list,

As the subject says, I'm having problems updating my MacBook Pro mid 2014 to 
Catalina.

first off, I downloaded the Catalina update and when I tried to run it it 
wouldn't let me run it and said my machine wasn't configured properly.

secondly, I did attempted to do a clean install. With the eight PFS volume said 
I still was unable to upgrade the only thing it would do was install Mojave it 
would not let me install Catalina.

does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks a bunch.



Danny

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iOS 13 and email question

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Hello,
In the mail app on iPhone iOS 13. While using a apple Magic keyboard, is there 
a keyboard command to get new mail. Other than refreshing the screen 

Danny

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Completely VoiceOver accessible audio recoder / editor

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Hi list,
Are any audio recording / editing applications completely V VoiceOver 
accessible. I mean, are all functions available to the VoiceOver user from the 
keyboard.
If so, what are these applications called.
Thanks in advance.


Danny

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Testing, please ignore

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Music app in Catalina

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Hello,
Will the music App in OS X Catalina have a user adjustable EQ like in the 
current iTunes?
Also will iOS 13 have an EQ that allows for user settings other than presets 
only?



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Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

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hello,

It was $30 approximately for the set. Actually 29 something plus tax.

if you go to Amazon.com and type in the following number it will get you 
directly to the speakers

ASINB075VBXGT2


hope this helps.




Dan


> On Jun 11, 2019, at 7:37 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> were they $30.00 for each speaker?
> Do you have a direct link to them?
> Always looking for small systems to test out mixes on. :)
> Thanks
> Chuck
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:17 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> 
>> hello,
>> 
>> after looking around a while I found the following speaker system and I 
>> ordered it.
>> 
>> R19U is equipped with Edifier's latest 2.75” full-range speaker unit,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> these are bookshelf speakers.
>> 
>> USB powered and USB audio supplied.
>> 
>> it has a jack and a complementary 3.5 mm male to male cord for other audio 
>> devices to play into the speakers. if anybody's interested I ordered this 
>> from Amazon.
>> 
>> It should be here tomorrow.
>> 
>> they cost around $30 US. so the reason I got these was because the USB 
>> connection supplies both power to the speakers and has the sound card for X 
>> ternal audio.
>> 
>> Thus only using one connection.
>> 
>> Will be interesting to see how these things work, I sure hope they do a good 
>> job.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I always use to like the mission argonaughts,
>>> Spelling might be off but they had a great sound to them, right across the 
>>> board,
>>> 
>>> Not sure how they'd work though with a Mac Mini. -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 8:55 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm also looking for good quality speakers for the mac mini.
>>> I am attempting to find USB speakers. Not just USB powered, but also using 
>>> the USB connection for audio as well, not the 3.5 MM jack.
>>> I have found external sound cards. I've also found many USB powered 
>>> speakers but they still use the 3.5 MM jack for the audio. Not what I want.
>>> I'm still looking.
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:12 PM, B G  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I thought I'd consult the list on this considering we screen-reader 
>>>> users on average tend to be more selective about the quality of our 
>>>> audio equipment. In short, I'm looking for either a decent set of 
>>>> speakers or a monitor with a decent pair of built-in speakers. There's 
>>>> a surprising dearth of quality gear in the market - on Amazon at any 
>>>> rate. Can the list offer any recommendations?
>>>> Much obliged, Ben
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Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hello,

Well, they will be here tomorrow. Guess I'll find out how they sound to me. Of 
course I understand it's totally subjective and of course that's where it 
should be.

And thank you so much I really appreciate it.




Dan


> On Jun 11, 2019, at 7:37 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan, I have a pair of those. They are very nice speakers for the
> money. The only thing I didn't like is they seem to have a boosted
> upper bass/lower midrange. On audio books every narrator sounds like
> they have a frog in their throat. Possibly if you can place them
> farther from the wal than I could they would be fine, or maybe your
> taste in reproduction is different from mine.
> Jeff
> 
> 
>> On 6/11/19, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
>> hello,
>> 
>> after looking around a while I found the following speaker system and I
>> ordered it.
>> 
>> R19U is equipped with Edifier's latest 2.75” full-range speaker unit,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> these are bookshelf speakers.
>> 
>> USB powered and USB audio supplied.
>> 
>> it has a jack and a complementary 3.5 mm male to male cord for other audio
>> devices to play into the speakers. if anybody's interested I ordered this
>> from Amazon.
>> 
>> It should be here tomorrow.
>> 
>> they cost around $30 US. so the reason I got these was because the USB
>> connection supplies both power to the speakers and has the sound card for X
>> ternal audio.
>> 
>> Thus only using one connection.
>> 
>> Will be interesting to see how these things work, I sure hope they do a good
>> job.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I always use to like the mission argonaughts,
>>> Spelling might be off but they had a great sound to them, right across the
>>> board,
>>> 
>>> Not sure how they'd work though with a Mac Mini. -Original
>>> Message-
>>> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 8:55 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm also looking for good quality speakers for the mac mini.
>>> I am attempting to find USB speakers. Not just USB powered, but also using
>>> the USB connection for audio as well, not the 3.5 MM jack.
>>> I have found external sound cards. I've also found many USB powered
>>> speakers but they still use the 3.5 MM jack for the audio. Not what I
>>> want.
>>> I'm still looking.
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:12 PM, B G  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I thought I'd consult the list on this considering we screen-reader
>>>> users on average tend to be more selective about the quality of our
>>>> audio equipment. In short, I'm looking for either a decent set of
>>>> speakers or a monitor with a decent pair of built-in speakers. There's
>>>> a surprising dearth of quality gear in the market - on Amazon at any
>>>> rate. Can the list offer any recommendations?
>>>> Much obliged, Ben
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Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hello,

after looking around a while I found the following speaker system and I ordered 
it.

R19U is equipped with Edifier's latest 2.75” full-range speaker unit,




these are bookshelf speakers.

USB powered and USB audio supplied.

it has a jack and a complementary 3.5 mm male to male cord for other audio 
devices to play into the speakers. if anybody's interested I ordered this from 
Amazon.

It should be here tomorrow.

they cost around $30 US. so the reason I got these was because the USB 
connection supplies both power to the speakers and has the sound card for X 
ternal audio.

Thus only using one connection.

Will be interesting to see how these things work, I sure hope they do a good 
job.

Dan


> On Jun 10, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I always use to like the mission argonaughts,
> Spelling might be off but they had a great sound to them, right across the 
> board,
> 
> Not sure how they'd work though with a Mac Mini. -Original Message-----
> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 8:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini
> 
> Hello,
> I'm also looking for good quality speakers for the mac mini.
> I am attempting to find USB speakers. Not just USB powered, but also using 
> the USB connection for audio as well, not the 3.5 MM jack.
> I have found external sound cards. I've also found many USB powered speakers 
> but they still use the 3.5 MM jack for the audio. Not what I want.
> I'm still looking.
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:12 PM, B G  wrote:
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>> I thought I'd consult the list on this considering we screen-reader 
>> users on average tend to be more selective about the quality of our 
>> audio equipment. In short, I'm looking for either a decent set of 
>> speakers or a monitor with a decent pair of built-in speakers. There's 
>> a surprising dearth of quality gear in the market - on Amazon at any 
>> rate. Can the list offer any recommendations?
>> Much obliged, Ben
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Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
I'm also looking for good quality speakers for the mac mini.
I am attempting to find USB speakers. Not just USB powered, but also using the 
USB connection for audio as well, not the 3.5 MM jack.
I have found external sound cards. I've also found many USB powered speakers 
but they still use the 3.5 MM jack for the audio. Not what I want.
I'm still looking.
Any suggestions?




Dan


> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:12 PM, B G  wrote:
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> I thought I'd consult the list on this considering we screen-reader
> users on average tend to be more selective about the quality of our
> audio equipment. In short, I'm looking for either a decent set of
> speakers or a monitor with a decent pair of built-in speakers. There's
> a surprising dearth of quality gear in the market - on Amazon at any
> rate. Can the list offer any recommendations?
> Much obliged, Ben
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Re: I just downloaded the Win 10 2019.03 file, now some questions.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hi,

Thanks a lot for that information I certainly appreciate it.

I guess the remaining question is about FileVault. Of course I would turn 
FileVault off before doing the windows install. However at a later point can I 
turn FileVault back on for OS 10?

Thank you


Dan


> On May 22, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Matt  wrote:
> 
> Hi, when windows starts up, you will have no speech thru your mac speakers, 
> or your headphone jack, if your using a mac from 2018.
> 
> To here narrator, you'll need a USB headset,or a USB soundcard that doesn't 
> require a driver to be installed.
> 
> I've had no problem with the chip, when installing windows with bootcamp.  in 
> fact, I just installed 1903 this morning.
> 
> btw you don't need a USB drive, for the iso file, bootcamp will take care of 
> that for you.
> 
>> On 5/22/2019 12:29 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hello list,
>> As the subject says, I just downloaded the latest release of windows 10.
>> Now some questions.
>> 
>> The T2 Chip.
>> By default the T2 chip is set to no boot from external drives. Does this 
>> include additional bootable partitions such as that created using Boot Camp? 
>> Should I set the security boot app in the recovery partition to allow 
>> booting from other drives?
>> 
>> Filevault.
>> While I know that I should disable Filevault while installing Windows, can I 
>> reactivate it after the installation is done? Or will this have adverse 
>> affects?
>> 
>> Audio.
>> Will the T2 chip pose problems with 3.5 MM headphones use while installing 
>> windows using Narrator?
>> 
>> Any ideas or suggestions?
>> Thanks guys.
>> 
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test, please ignore.

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Re: Windows 10 Releaces to install on my mac mini

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hello Matt,

Thanks for the information. I would really appreciated if whenever you have 
time you would post the link I would love to listen to your set of instructions.

Thank you.




Dan


> On May 9, 2019, at 7:18 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> 
> I’ve installed windows 10, 1809 with no problem on my mac mini 2018, using 
> bootcamp.
> I got the iso from the microsoft download center.
> I’ve  also done a little audio walk thru on installing it with bootcamp.
> If I can find it, I’ll  post a link.
> 
>> On May 9, 2019, at 5:31 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi yeah it's is a known issue currently so if your really worried about it 
>> then your best bet is to use  a virtual environment such as vm fusion or 
>> virtual box.
>> 
>> That way you don't need to re image your machine just delete the virtual 
>> machine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries  
>> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2019 1:31 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Windows 10 Releaces to install on my mac mini
>> 
>> Hello,Thanks for that.
>> Here’s one of the problems I had with my MBP 2014 year machine. I had 
>> windows installed and everything was going just fine. Then I decided to 
>> uninstall it after a few weeks. Then a few weeks later, probably in February 
>> this year, I reinstalled windows 10 on that machine again. Then after a 
>> whole bunch of updates,and after I was done with windows at that point, I 
>> attempted to uninstall it. But for some reason, I was unable to uninstall 
>> it. Not only would boot camp not uninstall it, I had to reformat the SSD and 
>> reinstall the Mac os.
>> So, I’m wanting to avoide these kinds of problems. That is why I asked about 
>> the next installable release of windows.
>> Later.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2019, at 6:15 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's not yet out,
>>> 
>>> But yes there is an issue in boot camp installing win 10 1809 as you 
>>> said,
>>> 
>>> However the known solution is to install windows 10 1803 which works 
>>> very well and is fully accessible during installation And then once 
>>> you have that installed you can update to 1809 with out issue and 
>>> still with full accessibility
>>> 
>>> I've been able to set this up 5 times this year on different machines 
>>> without assistance.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2019 7:52 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Windows 10 Releaces to install on my mac mini
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> Here’s another question regarding installing windows 10 on my new mac mini 
>>> OS X 14.4.
>>> I know there were some problems with installing the October 2018 release of 
>>> windows 10. I also know that the April 2018 release of windows worked ok 
>>> for installing on the mac.
>>> Here’s my question.
>>> When will this year’s April release be available for mac users to download 
>>> and install?
>>> TIA.
>>> 
>>> Dan
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Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hello,

Thanks for that information. It's certainly worth knowing. I will be installing 
windows on a 2018 Mac mini and perhaps I will use a VM I'm not sure yet.

Guess there's a lot to consider.
just out of curiosity, and this is a general question to anyone. Is there 
anywhere I can get complete instructions up-to-date instructions on how to 
install VMware and windows 10.

Thanks in advance.




Dan


> On May 7, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been running Windows 10 under VMWare for a few months now, and have not 
> had any trouble with it. The one thing to be sure of when you install is to 
> be sure you go into Settings > Privacy, and make sure VMWare has permission 
> to access resources on your machine. I struggled mightily with this for a 
> time because I initially couldn’t find the setting. I’m using a 2014 Mac mini 
> with 8GB of RAM, and my VM is set to use 4GB of RAM. It’s slow to start up, 
> but once running it does quite nicely, thank you.
> 
> HTH,
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On May 7, 2019, at 9:13 AM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Thanks for the info regarding the sound card.
>> At this point, I’m not sure it’s even worth it. I’ll have to do a little 
>> research and ask some additional questions before even attempting to install 
>> Windows.
>> Do VMs work ok with the built-in sound card on the Mac Mini?
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2019, at 7:37 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, also if your wanting to install windows viea bootcamp.
>>> you will need a class compliant sound card for having speech with narrator 
>>> for the install.
>>> Apple did some changing of the audiocodic, so using the headphone jack for 
>>> the narrator speech at start up won’t work either.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 7, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Tom Moore  wrote:
 
 I use jaws most of the time, and nvda or narrator when I get stuck.
 
 Tom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
 Behalf Of B G
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 8:49 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!
 
 Ah now that is interesting. What screen-reader(s) do you have on your 
 Windows?
 I am incidentally totally new to Mac OS and all my knowledge comes
 from articles and anecdotes from forums like this..
 Ben.
 
> On 5/7/19, Tom Moore  wrote:
> Windows will run just fine on a mac with 16 gb of ram.
> I have an Imac mid 2013 here and I run windows on it every day with out 
> any
> issues.
> The big key here for running any type of Vmware based operating system is
> that you'll want to have an ssd in the mac to give the best experience.
> Give windows say 3 or 4 gigs and you'll do fine under windows unless you 
> are
> a user who uses lots of memory, then I'd bump it up to say 6 or 8 gigs if
> you needed too, but I haven't found that I have needed to do this.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf Of B G
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 1:19 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!
> 
> Worth noting that VMWare Fusion allows you to share the clipboard
> between Mac OS and MS Windows - it's like running another piece of
> software on top of Mac OS; needless to say that it isn't without its
> own set of challenges vis a vis sharing hardware resources and so
> forth. Moreover, I'm not sure that even your 16GB ram will be
> sufficient for running Windows on VM very smoothly. So you're probably
> better off with Bootcamp.
> Good luck
> Ben
> 
> 
> On 5/7/19, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> It has a I7 processor, 16 gb memory and 500 gb SSD.
>> I will be using Boot Camp. I suppose I could use a VM, but I want a
>> native
>> install of windows.
>> Still working out a few details.
>> Later.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2019, at 10:02 PM, B G  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will you be using VMWare Fusion for running Windows? And, what are
>>> your hardware specs?
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>> On 5/7/19, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
 Hello list,
 I just recceived my Mac Mini today and I love it. Got it set up without
 any
 problems what soever.
 In the days to come, I’ll have questions. Mostly concerning installing
 Windows 10. This will probably take place in a few weeks for a project.
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Re: Magic keyboard for mac

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hello, yes Apple is still making magic keyboard with the number pad. You can 
get either with the number pad or without the number pad.

I love this keyboard it works very well I've never had any problems with it it 
has extremely long battery life.

 I really see nothing negative as far as I'm concerned about this keyboard, but 
that's just me.




Dan


> On May 6, 2019, at 6:23 AM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Morning all,
> 
> I am considering a new magic keyboarders for my apple devices as it is 
> currently all worn out and some of the keys are no longer working.  Does 
> apple still have the keyboard with the numbed on the side.  I would like to 
> get  this as I have been using a num-pad for other reasons.  If anyone is 
> using this keyboard what are your thoughts.  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
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USBC Audio Interface suggestions for Mac Mini

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello list,
Because the Mac mini doesn't have any audio inputs, here is a question.
I'm looking for a general purpose microphone and line in device for a USBC port 
on my mac mini.
Also, I will probably be installing windows 10 also. So this device should be 
able to work with either mac or windows.
So let me further explain.
I want a device for a USBC port that has a few microphone inputs as well as a 
few line in connections.
Any suggestions or recommendations?
Thanks in advance.



Dan


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Re: Text Editors for Mac

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
Who's this app manufactured by? In this way, I'll be sure to download the 
proper app. There are loads of text editor apps on the app stor.
TIA.



Dan


> On Apr 30, 2019, at 10:36 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Well this sure turned into a project but thanks to all. And I believe I 
> have it nailed down.
> 
>   I did dump VDR. Will keep it on the iPad. While searching for a TextEdit 
> app for the iPhone I found one. ‎TextEditor  Rich Text Editor. Its free. And 
> its accessible. Yup. The app has support for cloud services.
> 
>   I ran a simple test, results are encouraging. Using the app I did a minor 
> edit on the iPhone. Went to the Mac and broughtr it up in TextEdit and mad 
> another edit. The change was made to the file in the TextEditor folder in 
> iCloud Drive, not to the one in the TextEdit folder. Confused yet?
> 
>   Opened the Files app on the iPhone and easily found the correct file in the 
> correct location.
> 
>   The end result is exactly what I was seeking. Open an rtf file, edit it, 
> save it as rtf with minimal effort. (big smile)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 4/30/2019 8:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I've been following this thread, but until this  morning haven't had much 
>> time to work on finding a solution.  But, I have found one.
>> ET, if you access the rtf file through Pages rather than files, it will open 
>> in Pages rather than VDR. So do the following:
>> 1. Open Pages.
>> 2. Scroll through the list of files till you get to the document you want.
>> 3. Double-tap to open.
>> You will be in your document in Pages.
>> I don't know why VDR takes over like it does, but at least there's a 
>> work-around.  I hope this helps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Apr 30, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jonathan and all,
>>> 
>>> I experience this same behavior.  I actually took VDR off my iPhone, 
>>> because I couldn't find any other way to stop RTF files from opening in 
>>> that app.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Apr 30, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
 
 So for iCloud files my understanding is IOS will look at the Macintoshes 
 creator tag which indicates the application that created the file and if 
 that exists on iOS want to use that. Why, your iOS is defaulting to reader 
 for RTF, I do not know. But, if you start a file in pages on the Mac it 
 should open in pages on iOS. If you start a file in word on Mac, should 
 open in word on iOS.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:16 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sure. If RTF meets your needs, it's a good choice. It's stable and
> widely supported.
> RTF isn't appropriate for any kind of programming, including web content
> authoring. So, it does depend on what you're needs are.
> 
> 
> Happy to help, if you find you need basic ASCII text. It's actually not
> that hard once you get a few basics in place.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Janina,
>> I think it was you who told me about the CR/LF thing. I decided to use
>> the .rtf format after some experimenting the last couple days. I want to
>> keep to a minimum the tools I need to use.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 4/28/2019 3:24 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Pardon me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there's a
>>> reason why reading text files across multiple environments can create
>>> problems. The reason is historical. Here's the basic reason:
>>> 
>>> On Linux/Unix the line termination char is a Ctrl+J
>>> 
>>> On Macintosh it's Ctrl+M
>>> 
>>> On Windows it's both Ctrl+J and Ctrl+M together.
>>> 
>>> There are tools for converting among these formats at the command line.
>>> On my Linux I have two apps called dos2unix and unix2dos which handle
>>> these things.
>>> 
>>> There are apps which will spot the problem when you load a text file and
>>> offer to do, or simply do the conversion for you on the fly. Problem
>>> here is that you need such an app on up to three separate environments.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
 Simon,
  I don't know what that is but have been trying different things and 
 have
 determined I should avoid plain text formats. So I went to .rtf which 
 may do
 it. TextEdit will open that on the Mac and edited the document in 
 TextEdit
 then viewed it under Windows in MS Word and it 

Got answer from Apple Accessibility. was, Re: New Mac Mini and additional question.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello list,
It does have a mono speaker in it according to the folks at 
apple Accessibility.
In case someone else wants to know.



Dan


> On Apr 28, 2019, at 9:53 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hello list,
> I've decided to get the new mac mini.
> Does this unit have an internal speaker like the older units?
> I was just curious for first boot and VoiceOver. I know I can use headphones 
> as well. But am just curious about internal speaker.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
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New Mac Mini and additional question.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello list,
I've decided to get the new mac mini.
Does this unit have an internal speaker like the older units?
I was just curious for first boot and VoiceOver. I know I can use headphones as 
well. But am just curious about internal speaker.




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Re: Considering a new mac mini.

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Hi,
The normal stuff, word processing, web browsing, email and the like.
As well as some audio production.
So, I want to get the most I can for as little as possible and still have a 
fairly good system.
I don't want to break the bank either. 
I am increasingly  of the opinion that Apple products are greatly over priced 
and that's after many years of using apple products.

Dan


> On Apr 24, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> What is it that you wish to do with this machine?
> 
> My personal thought is that SSD is without a doubt  needed 
> Processor will depend really on what you are doing,
> As for ram, 16gb isn't a bad thing but if your only using it to surf the net 
> or write emails then it's overkill 
> 
> If your playing with music or video / graphics editing then it's a must.
> The average mac will work great in most situations with 8GB of ram,
> But in saying that,I'd go with 16GB jst to future proof even if it wasn't 
> needed. 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2019 3:09 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Considering a new mac mini.
> 
> Hello list,
> I'm thinking about purchasing a new mac mini.
> So here are a few questions.
> 
> Out of the box with its basic configuration. What do you guys think of this 
> machine?
> 
> If I were to upgrade, I'd probably go with a 256 GB SSD. And perhaps also 
> upgrading to the max processor for this unit. Should I increase memory to at 
> least 16 GB or is that even necessary?
> 
> The idea here is to get the best bang for the lowest price without any major 
> compromises.
> 
> Again, what do you guys think of this approach? In general what comments do 
> you have regarding the mac mini.
> 
> TIA.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: Considering a new mac mini.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
Here's one way to find out.
Connect the keyboard to your mac with the usb/lightning cable. Assuming it's an 
apple keyboard.
I have mine connected with the cha5rging cable. Even when it's not connected, 
it doesn't slown as far as I can tell.



Dan


> On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:32 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> 
> Come to think of it, could the small delay be because I’m using a USB 
> wireless keyboard?
> Its like a second after I hit the key.
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:47 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not sure why that would be happening.  I have set up many devices including 
>> Mac Minis and have not experienced that sort of issue.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 09:42, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> i,
>> I have a MBP mid 2014 year machine. I don't have any VO delay.
>> I've been using MMacs from 2004 up to the present and I've never had any 
>> major VO delay.
>> Is this a problems with the new mac minis?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, not really a vo problem.
>>> If your coming from windows, the 2 second vo delay when you press a key, 
>>> might drive you nuts.
>>> This is my first Mac, and I’ve gotten used to the small delay.
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:27 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> What is the VO problem with this system?
>>>> In all probability, at some point, I probably will run windows under 
>>>> bootcamp.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, I have the new mini.
>>>>> I have the i7 processor, 16 gigs of ram, and the 512 gig ssd.
>>>>> VO, has this delay thing, that drives me nuts sometimes, I got it for 
>>>>> making music things.
>>>>> But, if you ever want to run windows with bootcamp, it runs like a champ.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:09 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>> I'm thinking about purchasing a new mac mini.
>>>>>> So here are a few questions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Out of the box with its basic configuration. What do you guys think of 
>>>>>> this machine?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I were to upgrade, I'd probably go with a 256 GB SSD. And perhaps 
>>>>>> also upgrading to the max processor for this unit. Should I increase 
>>>>>> memory to at least 16 GB or is that even necessary?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The idea here is to get the best bang for the lowest price without any 
>>>>>> major compromises.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Again, what do you guys think of this approach? In general what comments 
>>>>>> do you have regarding the mac mini.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dan
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Re: Considering a new mac mini.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

i,
I have a MBP mid 2014 year machine. I don't have any VO delay.
I've been using MMacs from 2004 up to the present and I've never had any major 
VO delay.
Is this a problems with the new mac minis?



Dan


> On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi, not really a vo problem.
> If your coming from windows, the 2 second vo delay when you press a key, 
> might drive you nuts.
> This is my first Mac, and I’ve gotten used to the small delay.
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:27 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> What is the VO problem with this system?
>> In all probability, at some point, I probably will run windows under 
>> bootcamp.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I have the new mini.
>>> I have the i7 processor, 16 gigs of ram, and the 512 gig ssd.
>>> VO, has this delay thing, that drives me nuts sometimes, I got it for 
>>> making music things.
>>> But, if you ever want to run windows with bootcamp, it runs like a champ.
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:09 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello list,
>>>> I'm thinking about purchasing a new mac mini.
>>>> So here are a few questions.
>>>> 
>>>> Out of the box with its basic configuration. What do you guys think of 
>>>> this machine?
>>>> 
>>>> If I were to upgrade, I'd probably go with a 256 GB SSD. And perhaps also 
>>>> upgrading to the max processor for this unit. Should I increase memory to 
>>>> at least 16 GB or is that even necessary?
>>>> 
>>>> The idea here is to get the best bang for the lowest price without any 
>>>> major compromises.
>>>> 
>>>> Again, what do you guys think of this approach? In general what comments 
>>>> do you have regarding the mac mini.
>>>> 
>>>> TIA.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
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Re: Considering a new mac mini.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
What is the VO problem with this system?
In all probability, at some point, I probably will run windows under bootcamp.



Dan


> On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have the new mini.
> I have the i7 processor, 16 gigs of ram, and the 512 gig ssd.
> VO, has this delay thing, that drives me nuts sometimes, I got it for making 
> music things.
> But, if you ever want to run windows with bootcamp, it runs like a champ.
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:09 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> I'm thinking about purchasing a new mac mini.
>> So here are a few questions.
>> 
>> Out of the box with its basic configuration. What do you guys think of this 
>> machine?
>> 
>> If I were to upgrade, I'd probably go with a 256 GB SSD. And perhaps also 
>> upgrading to the max processor for this unit. Should I increase memory to at 
>> least 16 GB or is that even necessary?
>> 
>> The idea here is to get the best bang for the lowest price without any major 
>> compromises.
>> 
>> Again, what do you guys think of this approach? In general what comments do 
>> you have regarding the mac mini.
>> 
>> TIA.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
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Considering a new mac mini.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello list,
I'm thinking about purchasing a new mac mini.
So here are a few questions.

Out of the box with its basic configuration. What do you guys think of this 
machine?

If I were to upgrade, I'd probably go with a 256 GB SSD. And perhaps also 
upgrading to the max processor for this unit. Should I increase memory to at 
least 16 GB or is that even necessary?

The idea here is to get the best bang for the lowest price without any major 
compromises.

Again, what do you guys think of this approach? In general what comments do you 
have regarding the mac mini.

TIA.




Dan


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Other VPN Questions.

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Hello List,
Between ExpressVpn and NordVpn, which offers the most complete VO accessibility 
for both OS X and iOS
TIA.


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Another question regarding VPNs

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Hello,
We will be traveling here in the us. I need a VPN for iOS devices as well as my 
MBP.
I am considering both Express VPN and NordVpn.
Whitch of these are completely accessible for VO users on both platforms 
mentioned above?
Whitch do you prefer and why.
Of course these are subjective questions, but never the less, I'm really 
interested.



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Re: Boot Camp MBA 2013

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hello,

You're welcome. Actually, it was someone in Apple Accessibility who found that 
information for me several months ago.

Glad it works.




Dan


> On Mar 20, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Thanks dan,
> 
> Why didn't I read this message from you 3 days ago.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2019 2:54 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Boot Camp MBA 2013
> 
> hello,
> 
> I had this problem and the solution was as follows.
> 
> UC April 2018 iteration of windows. It will work.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 6:46 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Simon:
>> 
>> I ran into that same error when I was installing Windows 10 via 
>> Bootcamp on my own late 2013 era Airbook. I don't recall all the 
>> details because this was some time ago, but I do recall enough that I 
>> can confidently tell you the error is misleading.
>> 
>> The problem is not the available capacity of your USB media device. 
>> The error is what OS X believes the state of your Bootcamp installation is.
>> If memory serves, I cleared the issue for myself by going to Bootcamp 
>> and asking it to delete a supposedly existing installation.
>> 
>> I know Apple is usually more button-down than that, but perhaps this 
>> is an exception that proves that rule.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Simon Fogarty writes:
>>> Hi List,
>>> I've just reimaged my Mac book air  mid 2013 I've installed the 
>>> latest Mojave 10.14.3 production not a PB.
>>> 
>>> Prior to this reimage I had windows 10 on the machine through Boot 
>>> Camp
>>> 
>>> Now with this new installation I'm getting an error when trying to install 
>>> windows 10 64Bit version 1809 and earlier versions.
>>> 
>>> The error is that the USB Flash drive I'm using to download the boot camp 
>>> drivers / windows stallation media being download does not have enough 
>>> space to carry out the Bootcamp setup.
>>> 
>>> I've used 3 different USB Flash drives, 16GB 32GB & a 256 GB USB SSD
>>> 
>>> All give the same error message and all are formatted as DOS Fat32.
>>> 
>>> The installation worked fine on a Mac Book Pro 2018 and an earlier MBP 2015.
>>> 
>>> The only difference is tha this MBA is mid 2013 and needs to use a 
>>> Flash drive to obtain the BootCamp installation media
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon F
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Re: Boot Camp MBA 2013

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hello,

I had this problem and the solution was as follows.

UC April 2018 iteration of windows. It will work.

  


Dan


> On Mar 18, 2019, at 6:46 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Simon:
> 
> I ran into that same error when I was installing Windows 10 via Bootcamp
> on my own late 2013 era Airbook. I don't recall all the details because
> this was some time ago, but I do recall enough that I can confidently
> tell you the error is misleading.
> 
> The problem is not the available capacity of your USB media device. The
> error is what OS X believes the state of your Bootcamp installation is.
> If memory serves, I cleared the issue for myself by going to Bootcamp
> and asking it to delete a supposedly existing installation.
> 
> I know Apple is usually more button-down than that, but perhaps this is
> an exception that proves that rule.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
>> Hi List,
>> I've just reimaged my Mac book air  mid 2013
>> I've installed the latest Mojave 10.14.3 production not a PB.
>> 
>> Prior to this reimage I had windows 10 on the machine through Boot Camp
>> 
>> Now with this new installation I'm getting an error when trying to install 
>> windows 10 64Bit version 1809 and earlier versions.
>> 
>> The error is that the USB Flash drive I'm using to download the boot camp 
>> drivers / windows stallation media being download does not have enough space 
>> to carry out the Bootcamp setup.
>> 
>> I've used 3 different USB Flash drives,
>> 16GB
>> 32GB
>> & a 256 GB USB SSD
>> 
>> All give the same error message and all are formatted as DOS Fat32.
>> 
>> The installation worked fine on a Mac Book Pro 2018 and an earlier MBP 2015.
>> 
>> The only difference is tha this MBA is mid 2013 and needs to use a Flash 
>> drive to obtain the BootCamp installation media
>> 
>> Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Simon F
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Re: Windows 10 install on MacBookAir 2013

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hello,

That's good, I'm glad it worked.




Dan


> On Mar 5, 2019, at 12:57 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Cheers 
> I've got  a set of bose that use both USB and 3.5 mm jack.
> 
> -Original Message-----
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 install on MacBookAir 2013
> 
> hello,
> 
> I have a Mac 2014 notebook it was a mid 2014.
> 
> Plugging a Bose headset with a 3.5 mm plug into the jack on the side of the 
> computer worked perfectly fine for me that's all I can say.
> 
> I hope you can find someway to get it to work but it worked for me.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 6:38 AM, matthew dyer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> I have an iMac 2013 and had a usb headset with no problems. Using standard 
>> headphones did not give me sound. HTH.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:23 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Simon,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Headphones connected directly to the Mac should work just fine. I did this 
>>> on a MBP mid 2014 and it worked just fine. You will also need a usb drive 
>>> as well for these older machines.
>>> After the boot camp part of the install switches over to the windows 
>>> installer, and after about half a minute or so, you can activate narrator 
>>> and away you go.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> I've got a mid 2013 mac book air that I'm going to have to completely 
>>>> reimage including a bootcamp windows 10 1809 partition.
>>>> 
>>>> I know that on the 2015 mac books etc you don't need to use a flash 
>>>> drive for the windows installation drivers etc, But on a 2013 device will 
>>>> windows / bootcamp let you run Narrator via USB audio or headphones if you 
>>>> start it up once windows starts it's installation process?
>>>> 
>>>> I've just done this on a 2015 MBP without any sighted assistance at 
>>>> all, I wondered if anyone has had the same luck on an earlier Mac Book 
>>>> device?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Windows 10 install on MacBookAir 2013

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hello,

I have a Mac 2014 notebook it was a mid 2014.

Plugging a Bose headset with a 3.5 mm plug into the jack on the side of the 
computer worked perfectly fine for me that's all I can say.

I hope you can find someway to get it to work but it worked for me.

  


Dan


> On Mar 4, 2019, at 6:38 AM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> 
> I have an iMac 2013 and had a usb headset with no problems. Using standard 
> headphones did not give me sound. HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:23 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> 
>> Headphones connected directly to the Mac should work just fine. I did this 
>> on a MBP mid 2014 and it worked just fine. You will also need a usb drive as 
>> well for these older machines.
>> After the boot camp part of the install switches over to the windows 
>> installer, and after about half a minute or so, you can activate narrator 
>> and away you go.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> I've got a mid 2013 mac book air that I'm going to have to completely 
>>> reimage including a bootcamp windows 10 1809 partition.
>>> 
>>> I know that on the 2015 mac books etc you don't need to use a flash drive 
>>> for the windows installation drivers etc,
>>> But on a 2013 device will windows / bootcamp let you run Narrator via USB 
>>> audio or headphones if you start it up once windows starts it's 
>>> installation process?
>>> 
>>> I've just done this on a 2015 MBP without any sighted assistance at all, 
>>> I wondered if anyone has had the same luck on an earlier Mac Book device?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon F
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Re: Windows 10 install on MacBookAir 2013

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Hi Simon,


Headphones connected directly to the Mac should work just fine. I did this on a 
MBP mid 2014 and it worked just fine. You will also need a usb drive as well 
for these older machines.
After the boot camp part of the install switches over to the windows installer, 
and after about half a minute or so, you can activate narrator and away you go.

Dan


> On Mar 3, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I've got a mid 2013 mac book air that I'm going to have to completely reimage 
> including a bootcamp windows 10 1809 partition.
> 
> I know that on the 2015 mac books etc you don't need to use a flash drive for 
> the windows installation drivers etc,
> But on a 2013 device will windows / bootcamp let you run Narrator via USB 
> audio or headphones if you start it up once windows starts it's installation 
> process?
> 
> I've just done this on a 2015 MBP without any sighted assistance at all, 
> I wondered if anyone has had the same luck on an earlier Mac Book device?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon F
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Re: What format of hard drive when clean installing Mojave?

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Hi,
Use APFS.



Dan


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> Hi,
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> What format of the hard drive do I choose when wiping the disk in preparation 
> for clean install of Mojave?
> 
> Many thanks
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Re: Removing Bootcamp Windows From My MacBook Air

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Hello,
I wanted to remove my bootcamp partition and I had the same thing.
So, this is what I did.

Before I get started with this procedure, please make certain you know what you 
are doing. Also, I'm just relaying my experience and cannot guarantee that this 
will work for you. But it should.
Shutdown the computer.
Reboot using command r.
After a while, I started VO with command f5.
After vo started, I selected disk utilities and hit continue.
Open disk utilities and selected erase.
Selected ssd and formatted it as APFS.
After the system erased, I exited disk utilities.
Back in the apps table, I selected reinstall.
Followed the prompts and set the machine up with a clean install.
Here's a point to keep in mind.
I noticed this problem after several windows updates. It's as if Windows took 
over the ssd.
Even though I could still boot in either bootcamp/windows or Mac OS. Still at 
some point I was no longer able to remove the bootcamp partition using the 
bootcamp utility in OS 10.14.2.
Just my experiences so far with this situation.

Sincerely,



Dan


> On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I’m trying to remove my windows Bootcamp partition from my 11-inch MacBook 
> Air running the latest version of Mojave. I’m using the Bootcamp Assistant, 
> but I can’t seem to get it to work. The checkboxes to get the Windows image 
> and download support software are usable, but the uninstall one, which I 
> need, is dimmed according to VoiceOver. Doing some research has uncovered 
> another method using Disk Utility, but according to the Apple Support pages 
> you’re only supposed to use Bootcamp Assistant. So, has anyone else run into 
> this situation where the uninstall checkbox isn’t available, and if so what 
> have you done to fix it?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Finally got Windows 10 running on my mac with Bootcamp. Now a few questions

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hello,

You're absolutely correct. All updates went perfectly fine and I am currently 
at the latest windows 10.




Dan


> On Jan 7, 2019, at 5:20 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Dan. This is a rather useful and important finding. Ordinarily,
> one would expect using the latest release is the way to go. But, it
> seems that isn't always the case, as it seems it wasn't this time.
> 
> I presume that once you installed, you were able to upgrade the the
> later Windows 10 release? I'm sure Windows would be prompting for that.
> 
> You and I have relatively similar hardware. Mine is a Mac Airbook from
> 2014.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi Janina and list,
>> First off. Thanks about answering the question regarding the product key. 
>> That's what I thought but wanted to be sure.
>> Ok, here goes.
>> It's all about the correct iso. I was using the latest iso, the october 
>> release. Even though I thought about running the April iso, I didn't My 
>> reasoning was that narrator was improved after the April iso.
>> Any way, I spoke with someone at apple accessibility and they looked through 
>> many different articles and finally found some info regarding using the 
>> April iso instead of the latest image from October. It had something to do 
>> with the latest iOS 10.14.2 on the Mac.
>> At any rate, after using the April iso file, I had no problems at all. In 
>> fact, I did use narrator with headphones after I got to that point in the 
>> installation process. I was able to complete the installation without any 
>> sighted assistance.
>> Wow, does windows 10 ever fly on my mid 2014 MBP.
>> 
>> Thanks to everyone for helping me.
>> Now, I need to decide where I go from here. Do I want Home addition or Pro? 
>> Do I still want to consider a refirbished computer. or, perhaps both. If I 
>> decide to use the Mac only, I'll probably get a few items, like a usb hub 
>> and some additional audio input/output devices.
>> 
>> Again, thanks to everyone.
>> BTW. I was on the phone with Apple accessibility for about 45 minutes. 
>> Thanks to them as well.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2019, at 10:11 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your product key will register you and your machine with Microsoft. So,
>>> should you need to reinstall on the same machine, this will just be
>>> handled for you in the background.
>>> 
>>> By the way what was the resolution to your earlier failures? Tell us a
>>> little of how that got resolved, please.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> I got bootcamp install and windows running just fine on my mac.
>>>> Now a few questions.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm running windows in restricted mode, that's without a product key.
>>>> 
>>>> The quesyion is this.
>>>> 
>>>> If I purchase a product key and for some reason I need to completely 
>>>> reinstall windows on my mac with boot camp, will my product key work every 
>>>> time I need to do this? Or, will I need to contact Microsoft for a key 
>>>> reset/reactivation?
>>>> 
>>>> As I said, this is only if it becomes necessary to reinstall a whole new 
>>>> install of windows using bootcamp.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Finally got Windows 10 running on my mac with Bootcamp. Now a few questions

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
Yep, just use 3.5 mm headphone and connect it to the output jack.
It works on my MBP mid 2014 model year machine.



Dan


> On Jan 6, 2019, at 7:22 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> 
> hi
> windows drivers for the bootcamp system are not included
> the mac speakers do not work with the generic Realtec drivers that
> microsoft provides
> Thus, the installation is not accessible.
> In the case of a macbook pro with only USB C ports, I have found no
> way to solve this, as the windows install does not support USB C or
> maybe it does not support Apple's USB C to USB A adapters.
> 
> Has anyone found solutions to this?
> 
>> On 1/6/19, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> Concerning the use of headphones during the windows installation, is there
>> any special adaptation for these headphones? That is, is it just a matter of
>> plugging in headphones into your MacBook airs speaker jack, or are they USB
>> headphones of some sort? And, why do we need to use headphones at all? Is it
>> that the speakers do not work during the installation? Please elaborate.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2019, at 1:59 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Janina and list,
>>> First off. Thanks about answering the question regarding the product key.
>>> That's what I thought but wanted to be sure.
>>> Ok, here goes.
>>> It's all about the correct iso. I was using the latest iso, the october
>>> release. Even though I thought about running the April iso, I didn't My
>>> reasoning was that narrator was improved after the April iso.
>>> Any way, I spoke with someone at apple accessibility and they looked
>>> through many different articles and finally found some info regarding
>>> using the April iso instead of the latest image from October. It had
>>> something to do with the latest iOS 10.14.2 on the Mac.
>>> At any rate, after using the April iso file, I had no problems at all. In
>>> fact, I did use narrator with headphones after I got to that point in the
>>> installation process. I was able to complete the installation without any
>>> sighted assistance.
>>> Wow, does windows 10 ever fly on my mid 2014 MBP.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to everyone for helping me.
>>> Now, I need to decide where I go from here. Do I want Home addition or
>>> Pro? Do I still want to consider a refirbished computer. or, perhaps both.
>>> If I decide to use the Mac only, I'll probably get a few items, like a usb
>>> hub and some additional audio input/output devices.
>>> 
>>> Again, thanks to everyone.
>>> BTW. I was on the phone with Apple accessibility for about 45 minutes.
>>> Thanks to them as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 5, 2019, at 10:11 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Your product key will register you and your machine with Microsoft. So,
>>>> should you need to reinstall on the same machine, this will just be
>>>> handled for you in the background.
>>>> 
>>>> By the way what was the resolution to your earlier failures? Tell us a
>>>> little of how that got resolved, please.
>>>> 
>>>> Janina
>>>> 
>>>> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>> I got bootcamp install and windows running just fine on my mac.
>>>>> Now a few questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm running windows in restricted mode, that's without a product key.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The quesyion is this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I purchase a product key and for some reason I need to completely
>>>>> reinstall windows on my mac with boot camp, will my product key work
>>>>> every time I need to do this? Or, will I need to contact Microsoft for a
>>>>> key reset/reactivation?
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I said, this is only if it becomes necessary to reinstall a whole new
>>>>> install of windows using bootcamp.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
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Re: Finally got Windows 10 running on my mac with Bootcamp. Now a few questions

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
The speakers will not work till Windows is in the final setup faze, where you 
enter your account name and the like.
Yes, you can connect headphones directly to the 3.5 jack.
After windows takes over from boot camp, after several minutes, just activate 
narrator with control command on a mac keyboard or control and windows key on a 
windows keyboard.



Dan


> On Jan 6, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Concerning the use of headphones during the windows installation, is there 
> any special adaptation for these headphones? That is, is it just a matter of 
> plugging in headphones into your MacBook airs speaker jack, or are they USB 
> headphones of some sort? And, why do we need to use headphones at all? Is it 
> that the speakers do not work during the installation? Please elaborate.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2019, at 1:59 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Janina and list,
>> First off. Thanks about answering the question regarding the product key. 
>> That's what I thought but wanted to be sure.
>> Ok, here goes.
>> It's all about the correct iso. I was using the latest iso, the october 
>> release. Even though I thought about running the April iso, I didn't My 
>> reasoning was that narrator was improved after the April iso.
>> Any way, I spoke with someone at apple accessibility and they looked through 
>> many different articles and finally found some info regarding using the 
>> April iso instead of the latest image from October. It had something to do 
>> with the latest iOS 10.14.2 on the Mac.
>> At any rate, after using the April iso file, I had no problems at all. In 
>> fact, I did use narrator with headphones after I got to that point in the 
>> installation process. I was able to complete the installation without any 
>> sighted assistance.
>> Wow, does windows 10 ever fly on my mid 2014 MBP.
>> 
>> Thanks to everyone for helping me.
>> Now, I need to decide where I go from here. Do I want Home addition or Pro? 
>> Do I still want to consider a refirbished computer. or, perhaps both. If I 
>> decide to use the Mac only, I'll probably get a few items, like a usb hub 
>> and some additional audio input/output devices.
>> 
>> Again, thanks to everyone.
>> BTW. I was on the phone with Apple accessibility for about 45 minutes. 
>> Thanks to them as well.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2019, at 10:11 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your product key will register you and your machine with Microsoft. So,
>>> should you need to reinstall on the same machine, this will just be
>>> handled for you in the background.
>>> 
>>> By the way what was the resolution to your earlier failures? Tell us a
>>> little of how that got resolved, please.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> I got bootcamp install and windows running just fine on my mac.
>>>> Now a few questions.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm running windows in restricted mode, that's without a product key.
>>>> 
>>>> The quesyion is this.
>>>> 
>>>> If I purchase a product key and for some reason I need to completely 
>>>> reinstall windows on my mac with boot camp, will my product key work every 
>>>> time I need to do this? Or, will I need to contact Microsoft for a key 
>>>> reset/reactivation?
>>>> 
>>>> As I said, this is only if it becomes necessary to reinstall a whole new 
>>>> install of windows using bootcamp.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Finally got Windows 10 running on my mac with Bootcamp. Now a few questions

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Janina and list,
First off. Thanks about answering the question regarding the product key. 
That's what I thought but wanted to be sure.
Ok, here goes.
It's all about the correct iso. I was using the latest iso, the october 
release. Even though I thought about running the April iso, I didn't My 
reasoning was that narrator was improved after the April iso.
Any way, I spoke with someone at apple accessibility and they looked through 
many different articles and finally found some info regarding using the April 
iso instead of the latest image from October. It had something to do with the 
latest iOS 10.14.2 on the Mac.
At any rate, after using the April iso file, I had no problems at all. In fact, 
I did use narrator with headphones after I got to that point in the 
installation process. I was able to complete the installation without any 
sighted assistance.
Wow, does windows 10 ever fly on my mid 2014 MBP.

Thanks to everyone for helping me.
Now, I need to decide where I go from here. Do I want Home addition or Pro? Do 
I still want to consider a refirbished computer. or, perhaps both. If I decide 
to use the Mac only, I'll probably get a few items, like a usb hub and some 
additional audio input/output devices.

Again, thanks to everyone.
BTW. I was on the phone with Apple accessibility for about 45 minutes. Thanks 
to them as well.



Dan


> On Jan 5, 2019, at 10:11 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Your product key will register you and your machine with Microsoft. So,
> should you need to reinstall on the same machine, this will just be
> handled for you in the background.
> 
> By the way what was the resolution to your earlier failures? Tell us a
> little of how that got resolved, please.
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi folks,
>> I got bootcamp install and windows running just fine on my mac.
>> Now a few questions.
>> 
>> I'm running windows in restricted mode, that's without a product key.
>> 
>> The quesyion is this.
>> 
>> If I purchase a product key and for some reason I need to completely 
>> reinstall windows on my mac with boot camp, will my product key work every 
>> time I need to do this? Or, will I need to contact Microsoft for a key 
>> reset/reactivation?
>> 
>> As I said, this is only if it becomes necessary to reinstall a whole new 
>> install of windows using bootcamp.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
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Finally got Windows 10 running on my mac with Bootcamp. Now a few questions

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hi folks,
I got bootcamp install and windows running just fine on my mac.
Now a few questions.

I'm running windows in restricted mode, that's without a product key.

The quesyion is this.

If I purchase a product key and for some reason I need to completely reinstall 
windows on my mac with boot camp, will my product key work every time I need to 
do this? Or, will I need to contact Microsoft for a key reset/reactivation?

As I said, this is only if it becomes necessary to reinstall a whole new 
install of windows using bootcamp.

Thanks.



Dan


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Re: Having problems with attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP 2014

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

first I format the USB drive as fat 32. No files on the desk.

Then I go through the Boot Camp process, at which point Boot Camp format the 
USB drive. After the system fails and I look at the USB drive, it has a number 
of windows files on the desk and it is also labeled with the windows 
installation labor.

g
please excuse the dictation errors, it's how lousy Siri has gotten lately.

 

Dan


> On Dec 20, 2018, at 9:17 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good.
> 
> You may also need to clear all files off your USB stick. Worth a try.
> 
> PS: Are you sure you're correctly creating the file system on the USB
> device? what files do you see on there?
> 
> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi,
>> Already did that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2018, at 8:04 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If your attempt to install using Bootcamp fails, you need to use
>>> Bootcamp again to delete your previous attempt before trying again. You
>>> will always get this kind of error if you simply try to install again
>>> without first clearing out whatever Bootcamp did on the attempt that
>>> failed.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I'm using bootcamp.
>>>> I've done all the necessary steps. I even attempted to use a 500 GB usb 
>>>> external drive as well and still, the disk isn't big enough if the error 
>>>> message can be believed.
>>>> My son and I even ran the system diagnostic tool. the one with D held down 
>>>> while restarting. No errors were reported.
>>>> So, honestly, I don't know what to do next.
>>>> I called Apple and was told to contact Microsoft. I called Microsoft and 
>>>> was told to call Apple.
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 20, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you installing windows 10 to bootcamp or just on to your mac's ssd 
>>>>> without any other setup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No the mac can't by default mount an NTFS partition so the best thing to 
>>>>> do is to format it as a FAT32  file structure 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To install windows you need to run on the mac side 
>>>>> Boot Camp assistant,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then follow the prompts to install your windows.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Easiest option is to put the windows installer package if in an ISO file 
>>>>> on to your desktop,
>>>>> Then format your USB flash drive to a fat32 format and then once done 
>>>>> Have that the installation in to bootcamp should work fine for you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  
>>>>> Sent: Friday, 21 December 2018 8:38 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Having problems with attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP 
>>>>> 2014
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Folks,
>>>>> I've been attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP mid 2014 model year 
>>>>> machine.
>>>>> Here are the problems I'm having.
>>>>> The first time I attempted to do this, I got a message that the install 
>>>>> couldn't be mounted because of not being able to format NTFS.
>>>>> Then after restarting the machine making sure that boot camp partial 
>>>>> install was removed, I attempted it again. This time I got the error that 
>>>>> the usb drive didn't have enough space. So I used a larger usb drive with 
>>>>> 64 GB instead of 32 GB and still got the same result.
>>>>> This is really dumb. I might as well purchase a refurb windows machine 
>>>>> rather than fooling around with this.
>>>>> Even though this was what I really wanted to do.
>>>>> Now I do have another  comment to make.
>>>>> In the install, the first time, My son picked the no license option and 
>>>>> it was after that that the unit said that NTFS couldn't be mounted or 
>>>>> something like that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>> Thanks

Re: Having problems with attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP 2014

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
Already did that.



Dan


> On Dec 20, 2018, at 8:04 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> If your attempt to install using Bootcamp fails, you need to use
> Bootcamp again to delete your previous attempt before trying again. You
> will always get this kind of error if you simply try to install again
> without first clearing out whatever Bootcamp did on the attempt that
> failed.
> 
> hth
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hello,
>> I'm using bootcamp.
>> I've done all the necessary steps. I even attempted to use a 500 GB usb 
>> external drive as well and still, the disk isn't big enough if the error 
>> message can be believed.
>> My son and I even ran the system diagnostic tool. the one with D held down 
>> while restarting. No errors were reported.
>> So, honestly, I don't know what to do next.
>> I called Apple and was told to contact Microsoft. I called Microsoft and was 
>> told to call Apple.
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dan,
>>> 
>>> Are you installing windows 10 to bootcamp or just on to your mac's ssd 
>>> without any other setup.
>>> 
>>> No the mac can't by default mount an NTFS partition so the best thing to do 
>>> is to format it as a FAT32  file structure 
>>> 
>>> To install windows you need to run on the mac side 
>>> Boot Camp assistant,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then follow the prompts to install your windows.
>>> 
>>> Easiest option is to put the windows installer package if in an ISO file on 
>>> to your desktop,
>>> Then format your USB flash drive to a fat32 format and then once done 
>>> Have that the installation in to bootcamp should work fine for you.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  
>>> Sent: Friday, 21 December 2018 8:38 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Having problems with attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP 
>>> 2014
>>> 
>>> Hello Folks,
>>> I've been attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP mid 2014 model year 
>>> machine.
>>> Here are the problems I'm having.
>>> The first time I attempted to do this, I got a message that the install 
>>> couldn't be mounted because of not being able to format NTFS.
>>> Then after restarting the machine making sure that boot camp partial 
>>> install was removed, I attempted it again. This time I got the error that 
>>> the usb drive didn't have enough space. So I used a larger usb drive with 
>>> 64 GB instead of 32 GB and still got the same result.
>>> This is really dumb. I might as well purchase a refurb windows machine 
>>> rather than fooling around with this.
>>> Even though this was what I really wanted to do.
>>> Now I do have another  comment to make.
>>> In the install, the first time, My son picked the no license option and it 
>>> was after that that the unit said that NTFS couldn't be mounted or 
>>> something like that.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> Thanks. 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
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Re: Having problems with attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP 2014

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
I'm using bootcamp.
I've done all the necessary steps. I even attempted to use a 500 GB usb 
external drive as well and still, the disk isn't big enough if the error 
message can be believed.
My son and I even ran the system diagnostic tool. the one with D held down 
while restarting. No errors were reported.
So, honestly, I don't know what to do next.
I called Apple and was told to contact Microsoft. I called Microsoft and was 
told to call Apple.
Sincerely,



Dan


> On Dec 20, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> Are you installing windows 10 to bootcamp or just on to your mac's ssd 
> without any other setup.
> 
> No the mac can't by default mount an NTFS partition so the best thing to do 
> is to format it as a FAT32  file structure 
> 
> To install windows you need to run on the mac side 
> Boot Camp assistant,
> 
> 
> Then follow the prompts to install your windows.
> 
> Easiest option is to put the windows installer package if in an ISO file on 
> to your desktop,
> Then format your USB flash drive to a fat32 format and then once done 
> Have that the installation in to bootcamp should work fine for you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, 21 December 2018 8:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Having problems with attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP 2014
> 
> Hello Folks,
> I've been attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP mid 2014 model year 
> machine.
> Here are the problems I'm having.
> The first time I attempted to do this, I got a message that the install 
> couldn't be mounted because of not being able to format NTFS.
> Then after restarting the machine making sure that boot camp partial install 
> was removed, I attempted it again. This time I got the error that the usb 
> drive didn't have enough space. So I used a larger usb drive with 64 GB 
> instead of 32 GB and still got the same result.
> This is really dumb. I might as well purchase a refurb windows machine rather 
> than fooling around with this.
> Even though this was what I really wanted to do.
> Now I do have another  comment to make.
> In the install, the first time, My son picked the no license option and it 
> was after that that the unit said that NTFS couldn't be mounted or something 
> like that.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks. 
> Sincerely,
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
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Having problems with attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP 2014

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello Folks,
I've been attempting to install windows 10 on my MBP mid 2014 model year 
machine.
Here are the problems I'm having.
The first time I attempted to do this, I got a message that the install 
couldn't be mounted because of not being able to format NTFS.
Then after restarting the machine making sure that boot camp partial install 
was removed, I attempted it again. This time I got the error that the usb drive 
didn't have enough space. So I used a larger usb drive with 64 GB instead of 32 
GB and still got the same result.
This is really dumb. I might as well purchase a refurb windows machine rather 
than fooling around with this.
Even though this was what I really wanted to do.
Now I do have another  comment to make.
In the install, the first time, My son picked the no license option and it was 
after that that the unit said that NTFS couldn't be mounted or something like 
that.

Any suggestions?
Thanks. 
Sincerely,



Dan


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Re: Thinking about running windows 10 on my MBP but first a few questions

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hello,

Thanks a bunch. Sure do appreciate the input.

 


Dan


> On Nov 26, 2018, at 9:44 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry I took your questions in a direction you'd not intended.
> 
> Can you install from USB? Certainly. USB won't care whether you attach a
> stick or a mechanical drive.
> 
> 
> How long can you use it without paying up? I've no idea. Microsoft.com
> will have the answer somewhere, though. And, maybe someone else just
> knows.
> 
> Can you use Narrator for the install? Absolutely. Check out this podcast
> which has been pointed to in the past on this list. It's a very helpful
> guide:
> 
> https://iaccessibility.net/iacast-democast-14-installing-windows-on-a-mac-accessibly-with-bootcamp/
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hello,
>> Ok, let me start over. I guess I really confused the situation.
>> I wish to install windows 10 on my mid 2014 MBP. In the instructions it says 
>> to use a usb 2.0 32 gb drive. This is for all the installation stuff. Yes, I 
>> know that bootcamp puts the actuall windows installation on a partition on 
>> my SSD.
>> So my questions are these.
>> 1. instead of a 2.0 usb stick can I use an external usb hard drive to do the 
>> same as the usb stick.
>> Also, how long can I run windows 10 without a product key before deciding to 
>> purchase windows.
>> Hope I untangled my questions regarding installing windows 10 on a MBP mid 
>> 2014 model year.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2018, at 8:18 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, I don't believe Bootcamp requires you put your Windows partition in
>>> any particular location. It's quite easy to find this topic discussed in
>>> various postings on the net. Try searching with the Google machine.
>>> Here's just one such:
>>> 
>>> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/31/how-windows-10-mac-boot-camp-external-drive-video/
>>> 
>>> And, here's another:
>>> 
>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2952697/bootcamp-external-hard-drive.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bottom line is you can, but you have some additional work on the Windows
>>> side of things with the booting process.
>>> 
>>> So, given that, may I ask why you don't want to use the internal disk on
>>> your Mac?
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>> hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Oh my goodness, I forgot to mention, I'm going to use Boot Camp. I guess 
>>>> that changed the scenario completely.
>>>> 
>>>> So again my question about whether not I can bypass using at to point no 
>>>> Flash Dr. and instead using a next ternal hard drive.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 26, 2018, at 7:01 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You've got a USB 3 port on that machine, no? I should think you'd prefer
>>>>> to use that with at least a 128 Gb USB 3 stick.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can tell you I'm running Linux using a 256 GB Sandisk USB 3 stick on my 
>>>>> early
>>>>> 2014 Airbook. It's working quite well--though I'm not using the Linux
>>>>> graphical desktop mainly because I don't have a good reference of
>>>>> keymappings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best of all the stick doesn't stick out of the case very far. In fact it
>>>>> sticks out less far than the Apple power connector, by about a quarter
>>>>> inch less.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you looking to avoid Bootcamp altogether for some reason?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you go the route of Windows on external USB media, I suspect your
>>>>> main problem may be figuring out how to configure it's EFI so the Mac
>>>>> will see it on boot. Thankfully, you should still have the boot
>>>>> chime--something that's gone away in newer Apples, afaik. However, you
>>>>> may still need device drivers for your Apple hardware. These are
>>>>> generally provided by Apple via Bootcamp. From time to time I've had
>>>>> notifications on my Windows desktop that driver updates are available
>>>>> for these. You'll be doing this part by hand, somehow.
>>>>> 
>>>

Re: Thinking about running windows 10 on my MBP but first a few questions

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
Ok, let me start over. I guess I really confused the situation.
I wish to install windows 10 on my mid 2014 MBP. In the instructions it says to 
use a usb 2.0 32 gb drive. This is for all the installation stuff. Yes, I know 
that bootcamp puts the actuall windows installation on a partition on my SSD.
So my questions are these.
1. instead of a 2.0 usb stick can I use an external usb hard drive to do the 
same as the usb stick.
Also, how long can I run windows 10 without a product key before deciding to 
purchase windows.
Hope I untangled my questions regarding installing windows 10 on a MBP mid 2014 
model year.



Dan


> On Nov 26, 2018, at 8:18 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, I don't believe Bootcamp requires you put your Windows partition in
> any particular location. It's quite easy to find this topic discussed in
> various postings on the net. Try searching with the Google machine.
> Here's just one such:
> 
> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/31/how-windows-10-mac-boot-camp-external-drive-video/
> 
> And, here's another:
> 
> http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2952697/bootcamp-external-hard-drive.html
> 
> 
> Bottom line is you can, but you have some additional work on the Windows
> side of things with the booting process.
> 
> So, given that, may I ask why you don't want to use the internal disk on
> your Mac?
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> hello,
>> 
>> Oh my goodness, I forgot to mention, I'm going to use Boot Camp. I guess 
>> that changed the scenario completely.
>> 
>> So again my question about whether not I can bypass using at to point no 
>> Flash Dr. and instead using a next ternal hard drive.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2018, at 7:01 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You've got a USB 3 port on that machine, no? I should think you'd prefer
>>> to use that with at least a 128 Gb USB 3 stick.
>>> 
>>> I can tell you I'm running Linux using a 256 GB Sandisk USB 3 stick on my 
>>> early
>>> 2014 Airbook. It's working quite well--though I'm not using the Linux
>>> graphical desktop mainly because I don't have a good reference of
>>> keymappings.
>>> 
>>> Best of all the stick doesn't stick out of the case very far. In fact it
>>> sticks out less far than the Apple power connector, by about a quarter
>>> inch less.
>>> 
>>> Are you looking to avoid Bootcamp altogether for some reason?
>>> 
>>> If you go the route of Windows on external USB media, I suspect your
>>> main problem may be figuring out how to configure it's EFI so the Mac
>>> will see it on boot. Thankfully, you should still have the boot
>>> chime--something that's gone away in newer Apples, afaik. However, you
>>> may still need device drivers for your Apple hardware. These are
>>> generally provided by Apple via Bootcamp. From time to time I've had
>>> notifications on my Windows desktop that driver updates are available
>>> for these. You'll be doing this part by hand, somehow.
>>> 
>>> I also have Windows 10 on my machine, but under Bootcamp, so that I have
>>> three operating environments to choose among when I hear the boot chime.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My next step is to give myself the option of running one of these under
>>> OS X via Virtualbox.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I’m considering running windows on my MBP mid 2014 machine running the 
>>>> latest OS Mojave.
>>>> I have a few questions.
>>>> Can I use an external hard drive in place of a usb 2.0 flash drive?
>>>> How long can I run windows 10 for free before I have to purchase it?
>>>> At what point can I begin using Narrator to complete the setup? Or should 
>>>> I have eyes present.
>>>> Thanks for any assistance.
>>>> 
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Re: Thinking about running windows 10 on my MBP but first a few questions

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

hello,

Oh my goodness, I forgot to mention, I'm going to use Boot Camp. I guess that 
changed the scenario completely.

So again my question about whether not I can bypass using at to point no Flash 
Dr. and instead using a next ternal hard drive.




Dan


> On Nov 26, 2018, at 7:01 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> You've got a USB 3 port on that machine, no? I should think you'd prefer
> to use that with at least a 128 Gb USB 3 stick.
> 
> I can tell you I'm running Linux using a 256 GB Sandisk USB 3 stick on my 
> early
> 2014 Airbook. It's working quite well--though I'm not using the Linux
> graphical desktop mainly because I don't have a good reference of
> keymappings.
> 
> Best of all the stick doesn't stick out of the case very far. In fact it
> sticks out less far than the Apple power connector, by about a quarter
> inch less.
> 
> Are you looking to avoid Bootcamp altogether for some reason?
> 
> If you go the route of Windows on external USB media, I suspect your
> main problem may be figuring out how to configure it's EFI so the Mac
> will see it on boot. Thankfully, you should still have the boot
> chime--something that's gone away in newer Apples, afaik. However, you
> may still need device drivers for your Apple hardware. These are
> generally provided by Apple via Bootcamp. From time to time I've had
> notifications on my Windows desktop that driver updates are available
> for these. You'll be doing this part by hand, somehow.
> 
> I also have Windows 10 on my machine, but under Bootcamp, so that I have
> three operating environments to choose among when I hear the boot chime.
> 
> 
> My next step is to give myself the option of running one of these under
> OS X via Virtualbox.
> 
> hth
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hello,
>> I’m considering running windows on my MBP mid 2014 machine running the 
>> latest OS Mojave.
>> I have a few questions.
>> Can I use an external hard drive in place of a usb 2.0 flash drive?
>> How long can I run windows 10 for free before I have to purchase it?
>> At what point can I begin using Narrator to complete the setup? Or should I 
>> have eyes present.
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>> 
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Re: Digital Voice Recorders and OS X 14.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
I'm going to purchase it through LS for $169.95. I'll call them first thingj 
Monday morning before they process my order tosee if they know. The manual says 
Windows, Mac isn't  listed, but ... .



Dan


> On Nov 3, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan, if you don't get an answer to your questions, please email me off 
> list at e...@erik-burggraaf.com.  in that case, I will see if I can get the 
> demo unit from Special Needs computers and find out for sure one way or the 
> other.
> 
> I don't see why it wouldn't work, but without trying it I would hate to say 
> for sure.  In other ways, the Eltronex is a terrific unit! I want one very 
> much!
> 
> 
> On November 3, 2018 4:48:59 PM "'Dan' via MacVisionaries" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> I'm thinking about purchasing the eltrinex digital voice recorder. The one 
> that has built-in voice guidance for blind people.
> Does anyone know if this unit can be connected to the mac to transfer files. 
> Also can I move any firmware to the root of the recorder for updating, 
> directly from the mac.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
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Digital Voice Recorders and OS X 14.

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello list,
I'm thinking about purchasing the eltrinex digital voice recorder. The one that 
has built-in voice guidance for blind people.
Does anyone know if this unit can be connected to the mac to transfer files. 
Also can I move any firmware to the root of the recorder for updating, directly 
from the mac.
Thanks.



Dan

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Re: iPhone XS and Max and audio stereo recording

['Dan' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
Would someone with either of the new iPhones please test VoiceMemos to see if 
it will record in stereo?

Thanks.



Dan


> On Sep 21, 2018, at 5:23 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> He did not test it with the Voice Memos app. Just like Siri shortcuts, I 
> think developers have to get access to this API first.
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens,
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>> On Sep 21, 2018, at 19:37, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I suppose there are some of you all out there who got shiny new iPhones 
>> today. We had some discussion a while back about the stereo recording 
>> feature, with some folks being so very sure that it would work with audio. 
>> Jonathan Mosen did a podcast of the set up of his new iPhone XS Max. He was 
>> not able to have stereo recording working for audio in the app that he 
>> apparently can use to make a Podcasts on his phone. It did work doing a 
>> video with the Camera app. But nothing doing for audio only. So I am curious 
>> if anybody else has had luck with a different app.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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