Re: Making Alex sound a bit more robotic
Intonation can be considered inflection. The higher the number, the more sing-songy the voice gets. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/15/2014 2:59 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: Hi all, sometimes when I'm listening to podcasts where people demonstrate something on the Mac and are using the Alex voice, I don't know if it is me but he seems a little deeper so to speak and maybe a touch of less natural sounding. Basically, I want to kind of have him sound a bit more robotic and less natural sounding as already mentioned. The reason for this is because I where hearing aids and at times I noticed he may raise slightly in pitch depending on what he is reading. So with a combination of adjusting the pitch and intonation, what would you recommend for getting him to such a state. lol Pitch is 45% Intonation is 40% Question: what is Intonation anyway? I understand what pitch is but don't have a clue on the concept of Intonation. If that could be answered, well then I've learned something new today. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: captia for the Mac
I'm wondering if the Webvisum extension would work on Firefox for the Mac. I'll have to try that. www.webvisum.com Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/14/2014 11:20 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Is it Rumola browser extension from www.skipinput.com On 14/07/2014 13:26, Mac wrote: What is the captia program that puts captious in for us? I forgot the name of the program. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: NFB Resolution
If you are one of the readers who are openly critical of the NFB's resolution, I'm wondering if you Have actually read Jonathan Mosen's excellent and balanced response? If you have not, may I kindly suggest that you do so. Some of you may not care if all apps are accessible and are willing to use itunes to locate alternatives which are. While you do that, please bear in mind that the reason for why your beloved iTunes is so accessible is due to advocacy on the part of the NFB. Do you seriously believe that all of these companies who have implemented so much accessibility into their products and services did so out of the goodness of their heart or because it was the right thing to do. I truly wish that had been the case but it often is not. Honestly, this is like criticizing a rule which gives you the right to criticize. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/12/2014 9:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: I cannot imagine it being about anything else but nfb getting money in exchange for building in limitations. Granted I make no secret of choosing my own dictionary. But why on earth in the 21st century is anyone still worshiping at the nfb altar anyway? So they pass a resolution...and? The only reason apple feels they must entertain them, is because other customers do not indicate they have minds imaginations and interests of their own. a bunch of people gave this organization power, those same people, who BTW have within themselves the ability to write their own dictionaries about blindness and anything else, can tell the nfb they have out grown the need for such a body anymore. I simply do not understand why one conformity is exchanged for another, one person's ideas of limitations exchanged for those the nfb create with their mindset. Kare On Sat, 12 Jul 2014, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: Karen: I fully agree. It really does feel like we're slapping Apple in the face, forcing them to conform. I really really hope this doesn't work, because it's going to create a huge mess and totally redefine apps. Not everything is accessible but that really is fine with me; usually I can find an app that is. It's what happens when you use anything, really. My thoughts are mainly money based: how much money will NFB get for consulting for something like this, and secondly how is this trash going to redefine apps on the iPhone? It's not going to be all that hard for NFB to use their power to force things into IOS/apps that don't need to be there, force things out, etc. On 7/12/2014 9:25 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Let me see if I understand this. Apple who has built in innovation on its own must discuss with the nfb how to now limit that innovation to fit the nfb's one size fits all definition of blindness? as in all blind people are interchangeable, and the nfb is the only source to tell you how to find a plug and play blind person by which you measure what works for them...all 400 plus million of them? I wonder how much money they plan on extorting for this dialog? Not only should it be a blanket resolution, BTW android phones are the most popular in use now according to annual surveys, but this dialog should involve many organizations, and a group of apple customers who are not members of a consumer organization whatsoever. The very suggestion that a single body is in a position to speak for every child born of women who happens to have the label blind attached to them is a stereotypes that really needs to end. otherwise the individuality that is the rich experience of redefining blindness is not going to exist for the millions who need not buy the nfb line to live freely and inclusively. Why does the nfb not spend its energy training software developers who fit their one size fits all blindness box? Many companies besides Apple would get the benefits that way. just my take, Karen On Sat, 12 Jul 2014, Pamela Francis wrote: Hello, I personally am not in favor of this resolution; not because I don't want accessibility. Apple took the lead in making its products accessible without government or organizational intervention. Microsoft, on the other hand, allowed third-party vendors to do its work within accessibility. Google, though it has come along way, still does not want to adhere to its own standards unless it is pressed. If there was a resolution to be had, it should've been a blanket resolution for all companies dealing with accessibility. Picking on Apple, is as if we as a blind community are slapping it in the face given that it has
Re: NFB Resolution
Who do you know that doesn't read background material before responding? It's a fair question. I guess I just had to wonder how many people who seem so incredibly hostile about this decision actually looked into the situation and considered the facts in a calm and rational manner. This reaction is unlike anything I would have expected. By the way, I'm not an NFB or ACB member and it is not likely I would consider joining, for reasons which aren't relevant to the purpose of this list. I'm not always in agreement with the NFB on every issue. I'm OK with people expressing anger, if you have something to be angry about. I guess I'm just hearing that people's reasons for opposing this resolution don't seem to fit the facts or make sense to me. Hi, Cheree. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: New to the Mac, where can I find good tutorials?
Well, www.MacFortheBlind.com has some good tutorials. Also National Braille Press at www.nbp.org offers a book on using the Mac with Voiceover for around twenty dollars or so. David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ Feliciano G wrote: Like the title states, New to the Mac, where can I find good tutorials? I know of AppleVis, but would like to know of good tutorials. Thanks Regards, Feliciano Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features – MacStories
My only complain about Alex on the Mac is that the voice tends to slur a bit when the rate of speech is up to a high value and if the inflection or intonation is past 85%. Other than that, it's a pleasant voice with a realistic breathing algorithm. I notice that it doesn't breathe when you perform a continuous read but it does if you're using arrow keys to move line by line. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/2/2014 7:06 AM, Daniel McGee wrote: Which voice do you use, then if you don’t like Alex. On 2 Jul 2014, at 12:01, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: In what way don't you like him? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 10:31, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Actually i must be the only guy on this list not liking alex at all. For some reason i don't like him. /A 1 jul 2014 kl. 09:31 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com: gorgeous! so now alex can guide me around when i am out visiting patients ! yeehah!! apple way to go! Will it also mean one can hear the map when i drive on the highway one wonders? lets hope so… On 6/30/14, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the operating system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new features for the mass market. As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and innovative as the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at Moscone. Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year commitment to improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that trend with iOS 8. Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain briefly how each feature works. Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the
Re: Most commonly used keystrokes
Hi. Well, I'm sure that everyone will have different responses to your question. First and foremost, I'd encourage you to use Voiceover's keyboard help mode, similar to the mode found in Windows Screen readers. Control-option-K or VO and K turns it on; escape turns it off. In this mode, you can press keys to find out what they do, including keys for Voiceover. When I was first learning how to use the Mac, I used this mode to try out any combination I could think of. As an example, try pressing vo A, vo B, Vo d, etc. to hear voiceover describe the function of that particular hotkey. Also, try using other modifier keys along with the VO key, such as vo shift D, vo command left arrow, etc. I also use quicknav a lot while reading, which lets you move around with arrow keys without the need to hold the ctrl and option keys. Press left arrow and right arrow simultaneously to turn it onn; remember to turn it off while you're writing text on the Web, such as when entering your name and password on a Web site. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 6/28/2014 12:47 PM, Feliciano G wrote: Hi, I recently acquired a MacBook Pro about two months ago. This is my first time using a Mac, what are the most common Lee used keystrokes? I know there is a list of them on the Internet, but I would like to know what are your personal most commonly used keystrokes. If you can list what they are and what the keystroke is I would really appreciate it. This would help me learn how to use the Mac. I just updated the laptop to Mavericks yesterday. Regards, Feliciano Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blind Square - help getting started please
I also would like to add a bit of perspective regarding this issue with the cost of GPS apps for iOS. For many of us, money is tight and we need to be prudent and responsible about our purchases. However, when I consider that, in the past, specialized, speech-friendly GPS products were in the thousand dollars plus range, paying less than $25.00 for the same capabilities seems like quite a bargain to me. Of course, this is true for many of the apps that we use today compared to the specialized, blindness-specific counterpart. When I think of capabilities like listening to DAISY talking books, money identification, etc. iOS blows my mind. I recently read an article (I'm sorry, I can't remember the source) with the headline apple Is a Leader in the Assistive technology Industry. Of course, when I heard that I nodded my head in total agreement. Afterward, I thought about it and realized how incredible that really is, that we can all agree that Apple, a mainstream company that I once thought would never make it back in the 1990's, is now leading the way in assistive tech. When I really think about that it positively blows my mind. David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ Les Kriegler wrote: I think it's an excellent product. And I will bet you that in time, they will have turn by turn directions. That's really the only major thing that is lacking. And it's not as if it off or an alternative to accommodate that. The developer is been committed to making this product is good as it can be for us. That alone makes it worth the money in my opinion. Hey buddy can come up with one version, but you continually upgrading make the product outstanding is a whole Nother matter. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com mailto:jldai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi although it is very limited, i have tried the free verrsion. what really bugs me is the fact that its TTS talks overtop of voiceover constantly, so you are never hearing what voiceover is telling you and if it's important, that could bee bad or dangerous. My friends have it and as I said beffore, they loove it. How do you like it? Another thing I do not like, is that it does not have its own navigation system, you must use third party gps apps, and my favorite one so far, Scout maps is not even supported. Sent from my iPad On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Jessica, as the old saying goes, you get what you pay for. I cannot imagine that you will ever find GPS product for lesson $15 it is any good. It's just not going to happen. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com mailto:jldai...@gmail.com wrote: When was it ever that low? The lowest I ever saw was $14.99, you would never convince me to pay that either. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is, then again, I did buy it when was $10. Still worth it though. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June. Spots are limited, sign up here http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/ On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com mailto:jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I want to know what everyone thinks, is it worth the price? Thanks, Jessica Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: If either of you need assistance with blind square, I can be reached off list. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/ 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June. Spots are limited, sign up here http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/ On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eleanor, This is the first chance I have had to open the app. I hope you have read the help info that is documented in the app. There are so many settings that you can select to make the experience of using Blind Square to your liking. To answer yourquestion about using Google Maps, this needs to be install on the phone first. When you open Blind Square, you
Keyboard Commander and entering Text on a Web Page
I think I know the answer to this question but I'd like to ask in case I'm wrong. smile First, I love the flexibility of Keyboard commander. However, I noticed that, when I use my iPhone, the commander seems to automatically turn off when you're in a text box or edit field, which I think is very smart and a nice touch. Is there a method for having this done in the Mac? I mean, it's not going to kill me to press left arrow/right arrow to turn it off while in text fields but I'd like the capability to have it turn off when text needs to be written and to have it turn back on when you leave an edit field on a Web page. Does this make sense? Alternatively, is there an option, script or third party program which forces the commander to disable single letter navigation keys while in edit fields? -- David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Are there third-Party Scripts or Apps to Modify voiceover
I guess my subject states my question. As you know, many users have written their own scripts, apps or add-ons for all of the major windows screen readers. Has anyone done this for VO on the Mac and are there Web sites I can visit to see what's out there? -- David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Keyboard Commander and entering Text on a Web Page
Sure, no problem. On my Mac, I have single letter navigation keys enabled, allowing me to do things like pressing the letter H to move to the next heading on a Web page, B to move to the next button, etc. this works well, except when I'm in edit boxes where I would have to enter a user ID, password, etc. In those edit fields, I need to turn Keyboard Commander off in order to enter the text; otherwise, my text will be interpreted as a navigation command. I'd like to know if there is a way to have the single letter navigation keys interpreted as text when I'm in an edit field without the need to turn the commander off when I'm typing and on while I'm browsing. This feature does seem to work on the iPhone and I'm wondering if a similar option is available for the Mac. David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ isaac wrote: I don't understand the question could you be more clear on what are you trying to do? What do you mean that the commander turns off when in text fields? isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 20, 2014, at 9:28 AM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: I think I know the answer to this question but I'd like to ask in case I'm wrong. smile First, I love the flexibility of Keyboard commander. However, I noticed that, when I use my iPhone, the commander seems to automatically turn off when you're in a text box or edit field, which I think is very smart and a nice touch. Is there a method for having this done in the Mac? I mean, it's not going to kill me to press left arrow/right arrow to turn it off while in text fields but I'd like the capability to have it turn off when text needs to be written and to have it turn back on when you leave an edit field on a Web page. Does this make sense? Alternatively, is there an option, script or third party program which forces the commander to disable single letter navigation keys while in edit fields? -- David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Keyboard Commander and entering Text on a Web Page
Ah yes. You're correct. ... Yes, I was referring to quick nav needing to be disabled when entering text on a Web page. David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ Matt Dierckens wrote: Hi david. I think you're confusing quick nag with keyboard commander. No worries though. I always turn off quick nag when I have to enter text on a web page. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June. Spots are limited, sign up here http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/ On Jun 20, 2014, at 11:12 AM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Sure, no problem. On my Mac, I have single letter navigation keys enabled, allowing me to do things like pressing the letter H to move to the next heading on a Web page, B to move to the next button, etc. this works well, except when I'm in edit boxes where I would have to enter a user ID, password, etc. In those edit fields, I need to turn Keyboard Commander off in order to enter the text; otherwise, my text will be interpreted as a navigation command. I'd like to know if there is a way to have the single letter navigation keys interpreted as text when I'm in an edit field without the need to turn the commander off when I'm typing and on while I'm browsing. This feature does seem to work on the iPhone and I'm wondering if a similar option is available for the Mac. David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ isaac wrote: I don't understand the question could you be more clear on what are you trying to do? What do you mean that the commander turns off when in text fields? isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 20, 2014, at 9:28 AM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: I think I know the answer to this question but I'd like to ask in case I'm wrong. smile First, I love the flexibility of Keyboard commander. However, I noticed that, when I use my iPhone, the commander seems to automatically turn off when you're in a text box or edit field, which I think is very smart and a nice touch. Is there a method for having this done in the Mac? I mean, it's not going to kill me to press left arrow/right arrow to turn it off while in text fields but I'd like the capability to have it turn off when text needs to be written and to have it turn back on when you leave an edit field on a Web page. Does this make sense? Alternatively, is there an option, script or third party program which forces the commander to disable single letter navigation keys while in edit fields? -- David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries
Introduction From New List Member
Hello. I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to write a quick intro message. I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've been in the field for over 20 years. I am a long-time user of windows and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom. I'll admit that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was more due to my 20-year windows bias. After listening to a lot of tutorials and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one for my next computer. I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my knowledge which I need to fill. I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it. I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between iOS and Yosemite this fall. thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available. -- David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Probably a Basic Question About Browsing folders in the Finder
Teresa and Mike, Thank you for your explanations. I think the likely answer to my question is that I deliberately switched the finder into column view, as I liked the navigation interface a bit better than the list view. OK, I understand now ... Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 6/19/2014 4:17 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, David, The finder has three basic views: list view, column view, and icon browser. List view and column view are the most accessible. The list view has a table with fairly detailed information about each file. You can expand the folders from the table or use option-down-arrow to go into the focused folder and remain there while manipulating files. Column view is kind of like a tree view in Windows. Icon view is, I think, a grid that shows icons for your folders and files. So the table is for your list view, and the browser is either for column view or icon view. To get to these views on the fly, there are keyboard shortcuts: command-1 for icon view, command-2 for listview, and command-3 for column view. You can adjust a folders default view or the default view for all folders with command-J. I hope this helps. Teresa Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at --Lewis Carroll On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:59 PM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: I won't waste any time as I have a question. I've gotten very comfortable at using the finder. In the past, when I enter my Mac HD drive I right arrow past the toolbar and I'm told there is a table. When I interact with the table, I can then get to my various files and folders. As of yesterday, everything still works but instead of being told that I'm in a table I'm told that I'm in the browser voiceover says browser, 1 item selected. If I interact with the browser, I am still able to access my folders. I'm just curious as to how things changed from a table to a browser and what the differences actually are between the two. -- David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Introduction From New List Member
Mike, I'm honored that you remember that tutorial, which I recorded in 1993, by the way. I agree with your comments re: Mac advantages over Windows. On the PC, when my Web browser hangs, it often hangs up my screen reader which is NVDA, a screen reader which rarely crashes. The one time Safari actually got hung up, the Mac had no negative effects, whatsoever. Voiceover and my other running apps just worked as though nothing was happening. Quite impressive. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 6/19/2014 5:30 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Welcome to the list! I remember the tutorial you did for the type 'n' speak, really enjoyed that when I first got it back in 1993. I have 3 macs at home and no longer have any pcs. I have no regrets about switching, I think the mac does not suffer from many of the problems that windows does, and being able to install and upgrade operating systems without sighted help is a huge advantage as well. Original message: Hello. I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to write a quick intro message. I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've been in the field for over 20 years. I am a long-time user of windows and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom. I'll admit that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was more due to my 20-year windows bias. After listening to a lot of tutorials and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one for my next computer. I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my knowledge which I need to fill. I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it. I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between iOS and Yosemite this fall. thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available. -- David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator, Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
