Re: Question about mouse click on the Mac

2019-12-26 Thread 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries
I don’t mind that you were wrong because I haven’t tried to use the process 
yet. Laziness during the holidays sometimes pays off. LOL.

Gail

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> On Dec 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 

Hi,
sorry I was wrong. It shows you should not rely on memory. I mostly use my 
Trackpad to do this.
Max.

> On 26 Dec 2019, at 12:57 pm, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> vo-shift-space is a mouse click.
> vo-command-shift-space locks and unlocks the mouse.
> 
> vo-h is your friend.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 25, 2019, at 19:17, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gail,
>> 
>> I’m sorry, but Max’s tip is incorrect.
>> The command he gave you, VO + Spacebar, is the command for VO to perform the 
>> default action on the item in the VO cursor.
>> 
>> The correct way to perform a mouse click on a Mac using VoiceOver is as 
>> follows:
>> 1.  Navigate so that the VO cursor is on the item you wish to perform the 
>> mouse click on, for example an edit field or some other item on the screen.
>> 2.  Route the mouse pointer to the VO cursor, with the keyboard command VO + 
>> CMD + F5.  Please note that on your MacBook Air, you may need to hold the FN 
>> key down with this command in order to make the F5 key perform as a normal 
>> F-key.
>> 3.  Now, do the keyboard command VO + CMD +SHIFT + Spacebar to perform a 
>> single mouse click.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 25, 2019, at 18:18, 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Max. This tip is much appreciated.
>> 
>> Gail
>> 
>> Sent from Gail’s iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 25, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> if I remember correctly it is VO + space key. Vo keys being CTRL + Option.
>> Max.
>> 
>>> On 26 Dec 2019, at 10:26 am, 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have come across a problem for which I can find no solution. I am using a 
>>> Mac book air running Sierra. I am staying with Sierra because I have a job 
>>> right now that will end shortly and I don’t want to mess up that job by 
>>> bringing on a new operating system that may puzzled me. But I have come 
>>> across something in my personal use that puzzles me anyway. I have come 
>>> across a situation which demands a mouse click and of coarse I have no 
>>> mouse. I probably could click it if I had one but I don’t. And I don’t 
>>> really want to mess with a mouse for one little problem. I just got a 
>>> Google home speaker and I am really fascinated with it but I would like to 
>>> sign up for something that will make it so that I can ask for songs 
>>> individually. The problem is that I have to change my password. That 
>>> usually is no big deal but this one has a link which it demands I click. I 
>>> can’t find a way of clicking this link on my Mac. Since I have no Mouse I 
>>> would have to do it using the keyboard but I don’t know how to do that. Is 
>>> there a keyboard command that will act like a mouse click on the Mac? I 
>>> know there is on the windows computer and I have a Windows computer but it 
>>> gave me so many problems I have pretty well trashed it and I wouldn’t like 
>>> to try to get it up just to solve this problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gail Sent from Gail’s iPhone
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Re: Question about mouse click on the Mac

2019-12-25 Thread 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries
Thank you Brad for giving me the full explanation. I’m glad I waited because I 
had decided not to use it until tomorrow. So all is well. Thanks again. And I 
hope you’re having a wonderful holiday season. And that goes to everyone else 
too.

Gail

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> On Dec 25, 2019, at 6:18 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 

Hi Gail,

I’m sorry, but Max’s tip is incorrect.
The command he gave you, VO + Spacebar, is the command for VO to perform the 
default action on the item in the VO cursor.

The correct way to perform a mouse click on a Mac using VoiceOver is as follows:
1.  Navigate so that the VO cursor is on the item you wish to perform the mouse 
click on, for example an edit field or some other item on the screen.
2.  Route the mouse pointer to the VO cursor, with the keyboard command VO + 
CMD + F5.  Please note that on your MacBook Air, you may need to hold the FN 
key down with this command in order to make the F5 key perform as a normal 
F-key.
3.  Now, do the keyboard command VO + CMD +SHIFT + Spacebar to perform a single 
mouse click.

HTH

- Brad -


On Dec 25, 2019, at 18:18, 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Thanks Max. This tip is much appreciated.

Gail

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> On Dec 25, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 

Hi,
if I remember correctly it is VO + space key. Vo keys being CTRL + Option.
Max.

> On 26 Dec 2019, at 10:26 am, 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have come across a problem for which I can find no solution. I am using a 
> Mac book air running Sierra. I am staying with Sierra because I have a job 
> right now that will end shortly and I don’t want to mess up that job by 
> bringing on a new operating system that may puzzled me. But I have come 
> across something in my personal use that puzzles me anyway. I have come 
> across a situation which demands a mouse click and of coarse I have no mouse. 
> I probably could click it if I had one but I don’t. And I don’t really want 
> to mess with a mouse for one little problem. I just got a Google home speaker 
> and I am really fascinated with it but I would like to sign up for something 
> that will make it so that I can ask for songs individually. The problem is 
> that I have to change my password. That usually is no big deal but this one 
> has a link which it demands I click. I can’t find a way of clicking this link 
> on my Mac. Since I have no Mouse I would have to do it using the keyboard but 
> I don’t know how to do that. Is there a keyboard command that will act like a 
> mouse click on the Mac? I know there is on the windows computer and I have a 
> Windows computer but it gave me so many problems I have pretty well trashed 
> it and I wouldn’t like to try to get it up just to solve this problem.
> 
> 
> 
> Gail Sent from Gail’s iPhone
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Re: Question about mouse click on the Mac

2019-12-25 Thread 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries
Thanks Max. This tip is much appreciated.

Gail

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> On Dec 25, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 

Hi,
if I remember correctly it is VO + space key. Vo keys being CTRL + Option.
Max.

> On 26 Dec 2019, at 10:26 am, 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have come across a problem for which I can find no solution. I am using a 
> Mac book air running Sierra. I am staying with Sierra because I have a job 
> right now that will end shortly and I don’t want to mess up that job by 
> bringing on a new operating system that may puzzled me. But I have come 
> across something in my personal use that puzzles me anyway. I have come 
> across a situation which demands a mouse click and of coarse I have no mouse. 
> I probably could click it if I had one but I don’t. And I don’t really want 
> to mess with a mouse for one little problem. I just got a Google home speaker 
> and I am really fascinated with it but I would like to sign up for something 
> that will make it so that I can ask for songs individually. The problem is 
> that I have to change my password. That usually is no big deal but this one 
> has a link which it demands I click. I can’t find a way of clicking this link 
> on my Mac. Since I have no Mouse I would have to do it using the keyboard but 
> I don’t know how to do that. Is there a keyboard command that will act like a 
> mouse click on the Mac? I know there is on the windows computer and I have a 
> Windows computer but it gave me so many problems I have pretty well trashed 
> it and I wouldn’t like to try to get it up just to solve this problem.
> 
> 
> 
> Gail Sent from Gail’s iPhone
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Question about mouse click on the Mac

2019-12-25 Thread 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries
I have come across a problem for which I can find no solution. I am using a Mac 
book air running Sierra. I am staying with Sierra because I have a job right 
now that will end shortly and I don’t want to mess up that job by bringing on a 
new operating system that may puzzled me. But I have come across something in 
my personal use that puzzles me anyway. I have come across a situation which 
demands a mouse click and of coarse I have no mouse. I probably could click it 
if I had one but I don’t. And I don’t really want to mess with a mouse for one 
little problem. I just got a Google home speaker and I am really fascinated 
with it but I would like to sign up for something that will make it so that I 
can ask for songs individually. The problem is that I have to change my 
password. That usually is no big deal but this one has a link which it demands 
I click. I can’t find a way of clicking this link on my Mac. Since I have no 
Mouse I would have to do it using the keyboard but I don’t know how to do that. 
Is there a keyboard command that will act like a mouse click on the Mac? I know 
there is on the windows computer and I have a Windows computer but it gave me 
so many problems I have pretty well trashed it and I wouldn’t like to try to 
get it up just to solve this problem.



Gail Sent from Gail’s iPhone

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Re: New Mac User

2019-08-31 Thread 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries
I am another new member, but I am a little more experienced than Marie. I 
joined this group because I have a job with my church editing documents. We are 
using Pages and I don’t know a whole lot about pages. We are not using the 
templates, thank heaven. We are just using it the way one would use text edit 
so I don’t have a lot to learn but any fine points would be beneficial. This 
looks like a very good group and I know a few of you from other lists 
I already know that the Mac is a much better computer than PCs  using windows.

Gail

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On Aug 31, 2019, at 9:04 AM, Marie  wrote:

Thanks for the welcomes by you and John. The Mac for the Blind website is  one 
I have visited and just downloaded the free tutorial from DEC. I also am 
familiar with Apple Vis since I have been using the IPhone since 2011 and even 
do a bit of teaching in it’s use for newly vision impaired individuals. I 
believe I have the mindset to learn the Mac.
Looking forward to the group interaction.
Marie
 
From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 7:50 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: New Mac User
 
Marie,
You heard from John already. I recommend you visit his web site at 
macfortheblind.com and look at his audio tutorials. Many are cost-based, but 
there are about a half dozen basic tutorials that are free, and are very well 
done. I learned a lot from John’s tutorials, and also from those done by David 
Woodbridge on appleviz.com (did I spell that one right?).
I did a lot of listening and struggling in my first 3 or 4 months using the 
Mac, but am becoming more comfortable with the Sox approach.
I made it a point to become familiar first with the Mail and Textedit apps, and 
then spent a whole lot of time learning how to get around in Finder. Calendar 
and Contacts were a bit more difficult to use, and I’m still not comfortable 
with Contacts.
Other places you should spend time poking around would be in the Voiceover 
Utility and System Preferences.
And of course post your questions to this list. There are some real experts on 
board.

Dave Carlson
Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
 
 
 
 
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