Re: Any users of the Mac What's App client?

2024-09-23 Thread 'Andrew' via MacVisionaries
Yes, there is.  Once you interact with the table of all your messages with 
vo+shift+down arrow, you can jump to the end of the table, i.e. the last cell 
with vo+shift+right arrow.

Hope this helps.

Andrew

> On 23 Sep 2024, at 02:43, Frank Ventura  
> wrote:
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> If anyone uses the What’s App client for Mac I have a question. Once I pick a 
> particular chat from the chats table I can navigate to the next table to the 
> right with the contents of that chat. However it is sorted newest at bottom 
> and oldest at the top. Is there an easy means of jumping the VoiceOver focus 
> directly to the bottom of that table so I can read the latest message without 
> having to VO RIGHT ARROW through every message to get to the bottom? thanks
> 
> Frank Ventura
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Re: Can anyone recommend an accessible guitar tuning app?

2024-09-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I just want some thing that plays the note.  I’ve always had perfect pitch, but 
lately I’ve started to wonder if I’m going sharp.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 22, 2024, at 7:14 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> the one I have is called “talking tuner” it tells you in speech how close you 
> are to the note you want. I don’t like it. I’d rather use my ears but I think 
> it’s pretty accurate.
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2024, at 6:56 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all.  If anyone uses a digital tuner that is accessible, I’d 
>> love to know what it is.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Can anyone recommend an accessible guitar tuning app?

2024-09-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Thanks for the recommendations.  Sounds like Talking tuner it is.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 22, 2024, at 8:10 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
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> I use an app called talking tuner.
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2024, at 8:14 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> the one I have is called “talking tuner” it tells you in speech how close 
>> you are to the note you want. I don’t like it. I’d rather use my ears but I 
>> think it’s pretty accurate.
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2024, at 6:56 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Subject says it all.  If anyone uses a digital tuner that is accessible, 
>>> I’d love to know what it is.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Can anyone recommend an accessible guitar tuning app?

2024-09-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Subject says it all.  If anyone uses a digital tuner that is accessible, I’d 
love to know what it is.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: Deleting and blocking conversations in text messages not working

2024-09-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Gabe,

I want a different solution because they send a lot of pictures and I don’t 
want the pictures cluttering up my phone and using space.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 22, 2024, at 4:13 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Whenever I'm part of one of these groups I just silence notifications. Then, 
> all I have to do is occasionally open the conversation and close it to clear 
> all those unread messages, reactions, etc. 
> 
> Gabe
> 
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2024, at 6:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joseph,
>> 
>> They did respond.  They asked if I use one of the Siri voices.  I told them 
>> I do.  I was also able to tel them that it happened on my iPhone 14 Pro, and 
>> my iPad mini, but not on my iPhone 12 mini.  Maybe that’s why they asked 
>> about your device?
>> 
>> And re the Messages issue, I suspect Brad is right, that it’s because of a 
>> couple of the group members not being on iPhones.  Though I did think that 
>> parity between Apple and Android was something that was being addressed in 
>> IOS 18.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 6:17 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh wow, sounds like another Apple accessibility book. By the way, I 
>>> reported the last bug that I was having with Apple accessibility and the 
>>> only thing that they responded with was my device. Who knows what they'll 
>>> say to you about this issue. Things happening with conversations here 
>>> lately.
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 2:57 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>> 
>>>> That’s what I thought.  But the leave conversation doesn’t seem to be 
>>>> there in IOS 18.  The last option I see is Delete and Block Conversation.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 2:52 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, if you wanna leave the call conversation, go to the conversation 
>>>>> tap on where it says how many people that are, then scroll all the way 
>>>>> down to the bottom, and click the button that says leave conversation
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My husband comes from a very large family, and they LOVE iMessaging 
>>>>>> pictures back and forth.  It isn’t unusual to have thirty to forty 
>>>>>> messages in one of these text storms. I’m trying to delete and block 
>>>>>> these conversations, but I’m still getting messages.  Here’s what I’m 
>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>> 1. Open the Conversation.
>>>>>> 2. Tap Edit.
>>>>>> 3. Tap Delete and block.
>>>>>> 4. Tap Delete and Block.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The message thread disappears from the list, but I’m still getting new 
>>>>>> message alerts.  Any suggestions?
>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>> Donna
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Re: Deleting and blocking conversations in text messages not working

2024-09-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Joseph,

They did respond.  They asked if I use one of the Siri voices.  I told them I 
do.  I was also able to tel them that it happened on my iPhone 14 Pro, and my 
iPad mini, but not on my iPhone 12 mini.  Maybe that’s why they asked about 
your device?

And re the Messages issue, I suspect Brad is right, that it’s because of a 
couple of the group members not being on iPhones.  Though I did think that 
parity between Apple and Android was something that was being addressed in IOS 
18.
Cheers,
Donna

Best,
Donna


> On Sep 21, 2024, at 6:17 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Oh wow, sounds like another Apple accessibility book. By the way, I reported 
> the last bug that I was having with Apple accessibility and the only thing 
> that they responded with was my device. Who knows what they'll say to you 
> about this issue. Things happening with conversations here lately.
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 2:57 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> That’s what I thought.  But the leave conversation doesn’t seem to be there 
>> in IOS 18.  The last option I see is Delete and Block Conversation.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 2:52 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, if you wanna leave the call conversation, go to the conversation tap 
>>> on where it says how many people that are, then scroll all the way down to 
>>> the bottom, and click the button that says leave conversation
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> My husband comes from a very large family, and they LOVE iMessaging 
>>>> pictures back and forth.  It isn’t unusual to have thirty to forty 
>>>> messages in one of these text storms. I’m trying to delete and block these 
>>>> conversations, but I’m still getting messages.  Here’s what I’m doing. 
>>>> 1. Open the Conversation.
>>>> 2. Tap Edit.
>>>> 3. Tap Delete and block.
>>>> 4. Tap Delete and Block.
>>>> 
>>>> The message thread disappears from the list, but I’m still getting new 
>>>> message alerts.  Any suggestions?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
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Re: Deleting and blocking conversations in text messages not working

2024-09-21 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
OH!  Thanks, Brad, that must be it.  I’m pretty sure there are a couple of 
people with Android phones.  That’s really too bad.
Thanks,
Donna

> On Sep 21, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> You may not be able to do this if a single member of the group is not an 
> iMessage user.
> Certain features are only available if everyone in a group is using iMessage.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 14:57, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> That’s what I thought.  But the leave conversation doesn’t seem to be there 
>> in IOS 18.  The last option I see is Delete and Block Conversation.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 2:52 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, if you wanna leave the call conversation, go to the conversation tap 
>>> on where it says how many people that are, then scroll all the way down to 
>>> the bottom, and click the button that says leave conversation
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> My husband comes from a very large family, and they LOVE iMessaging 
>>>> pictures back and forth.  It isn’t unusual to have thirty to forty 
>>>> messages in one of these text storms. I’m trying to delete and block these 
>>>> conversations, but I’m still getting messages.  Here’s what I’m doing. 
>>>> 1. Open the Conversation.
>>>> 2. Tap Edit.
>>>> 3. Tap Delete and block.
>>>> 4. Tap Delete and Block.
>>>> 
>>>> The message thread disappears from the list, but I’m still getting new 
>>>> message alerts.  Any suggestions?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
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Re: Deleting and blocking conversations in text messages not working

2024-09-21 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Joe,

That’s what I thought.  But the leave conversation doesn’t seem to be there in 
IOS 18.  The last option I see is Delete and Block Conversation.
Best,
Donna

> On Sep 21, 2024, at 2:52 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Well, if you wanna leave the call conversation, go to the conversation tap on 
> where it says how many people that are, then scroll all the way down to the 
> bottom, and click the button that says leave conversation
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My husband comes from a very large family, and they LOVE iMessaging pictures 
>> back and forth.  It isn’t unusual to have thirty to forty messages in one of 
>> these text storms. I’m trying to delete and block these conversations, but 
>> I’m still getting messages.  Here’s what I’m doing. 
>> 1. Open the Conversation.
>> 2. Tap Edit.
>> 3. Tap Delete and block.
>> 4. Tap Delete and Block.
>> 
>> The message thread disappears from the list, but I’m still getting new 
>> message alerts.  Any suggestions?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Emojes in Messages app after upgrade to Sequoia

2024-09-21 Thread 'Andrew' via MacVisionaries
I did try to interact with them but all I could read is the title of the 
category.  I will try again to make sure I’ve not made a mistake.

Andrew

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> The categories are actually “grids”, if you interact with any of them you 
> will find 200 or so possible symbols.
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>> 
>> How do I use emojes in Sequoia in Messages app?  When I activate the button, 
>> a popup window appears with the categories of emojes but then I can’t do 
>> anything about it. There’s no list of emojes to choose from.  What am I 
>> doing wrong?
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Emojes in Messages app after upgrade to Sequoia

2024-09-21 Thread 'Andrew' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

How do I use emojes in Sequoia in Messages app?  When I activate the button, a 
popup window appears with the categories of emojes but then I can’t do anything 
about it. There’s no list of emojes to choose from.  What am I doing wrong?

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Deleting and blocking conversations in text messages not working

2024-09-21 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

My husband comes from a very large family, and they LOVE iMessaging pictures 
back and forth.  It isn’t unusual to have thirty to forty messages in one of 
these text storms. I’m trying to delete and block these conversations, but I’m 
still getting messages.  Here’s what I’m doing. 
1. Open the Conversation.
2. Tap Edit.
3. Tap Delete and block.
4. Tap Delete and Block.

The message thread disappears from the list, but I’m still getting new message 
alerts.  Any suggestions?
TIA,
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iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

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Passwords and Passkeys

2024-09-19 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Hi all,
   Soon I will export from a third party password manager into Apple's 
Passwords. First though, what is a passkey? I need to know if I have any 
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Re: accessible wordle

2024-09-19 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
No, you don’t. They sort of try to make you think so, but you absolutely do not. I think you do have to give them a username or something, I don’t remember how I signed up.Mary WardOn Sep 19, 2024, at 2:05 PM, Marlene Kramer  wrote:Do you need to pay for a subscription to NY times in order to play on their site? Thanks in advance.On Sep 19, 2024, at 1:22 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

  

  
  
I play it every day with the "NYT Games" application. Works
  great! I didn't know there was a specific Wordle application.


On 9/19/2024 12:36 PM, Gabe Griffith
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  Hi all, 

I have a student who wants to play Wordle on his iPhone using VoiceOver. It appears the iOS version of the app is not accessible with VO, or at least all I was able to get was something to the affect of direct touch area, use the VO rotor to direct touch items in this area. 

Does anyone on here play Wordle using VO on an iOs device and if so how is it done? Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated. 

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Re: Article recapping Braille improvements on IOS 18

2024-09-18 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Unfortunately, the transcripts did not start when Judy Dixon gave the basic 
overview of the Mosen At Large podcast.  I know it was in the 140’s, but I am 
not sure now who h one.  I remember its as excellent but I did not take notes 
on it at the time and wish I had.  

> On Sep 16, 2024, at 4:16 PM, Marci Duty  wrote:
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> Such strong feelings about podcasts. Some of the best podcasts describing 
> these features have transcripts. Read these transcripts and wow, you get the 
> information you need.
> 
> https://www.livingblindfully.com/lb0300transcript/
> 
> Smiles from Texas,  
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>> 
>> Does anyone know of a good article—as in the written word—about the new 
>> braille improvements in IOS 18.  I googled it, but all I got were podcasts.  
>> No offense to anyone, but I hate podcasts.  They take way too long, and 
>> there’s way too much chatter.  I just don’t have time for all that.  I would 
>> much rather just read something.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: A bug in Voiceover after upgrading to Sequoia

2024-09-17 Thread 'Andrew&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Yes, I thought so too so I set the attributes to no speech as you suggested but 
the issue didn’t go away until I set “read numbers as” to words.  This is 
highly irregular as it would make it impossible to use read numbers as digits 
if someone should choose it as they want.  

Thanks for your help.

Andrew

> On 17 Sep 2024, at 21:02, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
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> Yes, but in your recording, it sounded like VoiceOver was reading text 
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> On Sep 17, 2024, at 14:49, 'Andrew' via MacVisionaries 
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> That’s what I had it set to - text attributes = do nothing.  I’ve just 
> fiddled with settings and what seems to have fixed it is to set “read numbers 
> as” words rather than digits.  That’s so curious.  Anyway, I’ve reported it 
> to Apple Accessibility.  Why should “read numbers as digits” play havoc with 
> how numbers are read?  This is highly irregular.
> 
> Andrew 
> 
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>> Correction:
>> Go to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Text.
>> Navigate to "When text attributes change”, and change the Pop-Up to "Do 
>> Nothing”.
>> 
>> - Brad -
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>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2024, at 13:10, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
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>> I listened to your recording, and I believe this is not a bug, rather it 
>> sounds like VO is speaking changes in Text Attributes.
>> To change this, go to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Announcements. 
>> Now, navigate to "When status text changes under VoiceOver cursor”, and use 
>> the Pop-Up menu to change this option to "Do Nothing”.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2024, at 11:16, 'Andrew' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’ve just upgraded my macbook air M1 to mac os Sequoia and I notice a 
>> strange behaviour when Voiceover reads numbers and day and time stamps on 
>> messages for example.  I attach a recording of this behaviour to this 
>> message.  Has anyone else noticed this as well?
>> 
>> The time and date stamp should read: Wed, 28 Aug at 07:58.  Listen and 
>> notice how Voiceover reads this.
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Re: Passwords App

2024-09-17 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   I read online though the stand alone Passwords app replaces the 
keychain in Sequoiai Will the Wallet sync across the 3 platforms?


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On 9/17/2024 8:02 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:

Yes, credit card information can be auto-filled, but this is done via Wallet, 
and not through passwords saved in Keychain.

- Brad -



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Hello,
   With the native Passwords app now available on Mac, iPhone and iPad, has 
anyone yet switched from third party password managers? If so, how are things 
working? And can credit card information also be auto filled?

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Passwords App

2024-09-17 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

Hello,
   With the native Passwords app now available on Mac, iPhone and iPad, 
has anyone yet switched from third party password managers? If so, how 
are things working? And can credit card information also be auto filled?


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Re: Question for Mary Otten, or anyone else who knows the answer, re VO detecting languages

2024-09-17 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi Mary,

Well, that’s interesting.  In the voice rotor, it now says primary voice, not 
default.  And having that voice selected doesn’t result in automatic language 
switching on the iPhone.  So I don’t know what that means for your upgrade to 
IOS 18.  I only have one voice for each language, though, so perhaps that’s the 
difference?

Re the Mac, I mis-spoke. I’m sitting at the kitchen table with all my Apple 
devices.  I was thinking iPad, but typed Mac.  So far as I know, there is no 
way to set languages to auto-detect on the Mac.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 17, 2024, at 4:26 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> ,
> Well, I don’t have a Mac so I have no comments about that at all. As far as 
> the phone or the iPad, how it worked in the past before iOS 18:
> 
> Add all the languages you want to your language rotor, having downloaded the 
> appropriate voices of course. I have two US English voices, Alex which is my 
> default setting. That is to say, if I flip through the language rotor, where 
> I have several voices in different languages, Alex says “default“. If that 
> voice has focus as I’m looking on a webpage for instance, and I run across 
> Russian, voice automatically switches to my Russian voice no problem. 
> 
> If I am sent to another English voice, not my default Alex, but another one 
> that’s in the rotor, when I run across Russian, nothing changes. So at least 
> in my experience, you have to have the default as your language that you’re 
> reading in in order to get a voice switch. I hope that helps. It’s also worth 
> remembering that Russian is in a different alphabet. Whether that matters I 
> don’t know.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2024, at 2:01 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Based on her last message, Mary has gotten this to work.  I never have.  
>> I’ve had detect languages turned on forever on my Mac, and my phone, but VO 
>> has never once automatically changed the voice.  How have you gotten this to 
>> work?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Question for Mary Otten, or anyone else who knows the answer, re VO detecting languages

2024-09-17 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Based on her last message, Mary has gotten this to work.  I never have.  I’ve 
had detect languages turned on forever on my Mac, and my phone, but VO has 
never once automatically changed the voice.  How have you gotten this to work?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Disregard, Re: Question re need voice option in rotor

2024-09-17 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi Mary,

Sure!  It was all in the article that Hai posted yesterday from Scott Davert.

You have to go in and re-add the voices to the rotor. Once I did that, 
everything was fine.  One thing, though.  I downloaded a couple of different 
voices.  I figured that once I downloaded them, they would automatically be 
added to the rotor, but they aren’t.  If you download any new voices, you have 
to then tap Activate to have them added to the rotor.

I’ve had a light work day today, so have had some time to play around with the 
update.  I’ve had no problems, other than the issue entering my passcode 
immediately following the update, which I’ve now experienced on two different 
devices, my iPhone 15 Pro, and my iPad mini.  So my advice still stands.  
Update when there’s someone sighted there just in case you need help entering 
the pass code.
Good luck,
Donna


> On Sep 17, 2024, at 3:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Still have not updated my old iPhone to iOS 18. I’m strongly thinking about 
> doing it with my iPad mini first. And I have more than one language in my iOS 
> 17 language rotor, including two English voices, one of which if I have it 
> set, the default one, if I run into Russian on a page, the voice 
> automatically switches which is great. I do not want to lose that 
> functionality. I know it’s changed and now everything‘s in the voice roter 
> which I still don’t understand. Anyway, could you tell what you did to solve 
> your problem in case others like me, might benefit? Thanks.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2024, at 11:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I solved this.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2024, at 1:30 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have three voices on my iPhone, one for English one for Spanish, and one 
>>> for Italian.  But only the English and Italian voices show up in the rotor. 
>>>  Anyone have any thoughts about why this would happen or how to fix?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: A bug in Voiceover after upgrading to Sequoia

2024-09-17 Thread 'Andrew&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Brad, I have "When status text changes under VoiceOver cursor:” set to play 
tone.  I don’t see why it should affect the way Voiceover reads numbers.  This 
is highly irregular.  It has to be fixed as it was no problem in any of the 
previous mac os versions.

Thanks for your response.

Andrew

> On 17 Sep 2024, at 19:10, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
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> I listened to your recording, and I believe this is not a bug, rather it 
> sounds like VO is speaking changes in Text Attributes.
> To change this, go to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Announcements. 
> Now, navigate to "When status text changes under VoiceOver cursor”, and use 
> the Pop-Up menu to change this option to "Do Nothing”.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2024, at 11:16, 'Andrew' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I’ve just upgraded my macbook air M1 to mac os Sequoia and I notice a strange 
> behaviour when Voiceover reads numbers and day and time stamps on messages 
> for example.  I attach a recording of this behaviour to this message.  Has 
> anyone else noticed this as well?
> 
> The time and date stamp should read: Wed, 28 Aug at 07:58.  Listen and notice 
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> 
> Andrew
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Re: A bug in Voiceover after upgrading to Sequoia

2024-09-17 Thread 'Andrew&#x27; via MacVisionaries
That’s what I had it set to - text attributes = do nothing.  I’ve just fiddled 
with settings and what seems to have fixed it is to set “read numbers as” words 
rather than digits.  That’s so curious.  Anyway, I’ve reported it to Apple 
Accessibility.  Why should “read numbers as digits” play havoc with how numbers 
are read?  This is highly irregular.

Andrew 

> On 17 Sep 2024, at 19:16, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
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> Correction:
> Go to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Text.
> Navigate to "When text attributes change”, and change the Pop-Up to "Do 
> Nothing”.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2024, at 13:10, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I listened to your recording, and I believe this is not a bug, rather it 
> sounds like VO is speaking changes in Text Attributes.
> To change this, go to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Announcements. 
> Now, navigate to "When status text changes under VoiceOver cursor”, and use 
> the Pop-Up menu to change this option to "Do Nothing”.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2024, at 11:16, 'Andrew' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’ve just upgraded my macbook air M1 to mac os Sequoia and I notice a strange 
> behaviour when Voiceover reads numbers and day and time stamps on messages 
> for example.  I attach a recording of this behaviour to this message.  Has 
> anyone else noticed this as well?
> 
> The time and date stamp should read: Wed, 28 Aug at 07:58.  Listen and notice 
> how Voiceover reads this.
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> Andrew
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Disregard, Re: Question re need voice option in rotor

2024-09-17 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
I solved this.
Best,
Donna


> On Sep 17, 2024, at 1:30 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I have three voices on my iPhone, one for English one for Spanish, and one 
> for Italian.  But only the English and Italian voices show up in the rotor.  
> Anyone have any thoughts about why this would happen or how to fix?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Question re need voice option in rotor

2024-09-17 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I have three voices on my iPhone, one for English one for Spanish, and one for 
Italian.  But only the English and Italian voices show up in the rotor.  Anyone 
have any thoughts about why this would happen or how to fix?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Important heads-up re updating to IOS 18

2024-09-16 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Just by way of follow up, after I’ve gotten my phone booted up, and all was 
well, I restarted it, to see if the problem persisted every time I had to enter 
my password. It does not. The only problem is the initial unlocking of your 
phone after the update.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2024, at 9:45 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi Joseph,
> 
> I did send it off to  Apple accessibility this afternoon. I figure all the 
> accessibility improvements in the world aren’t worth much if you end up 
> blocked out of your phone. Anyway, as we all know the more people report 
> these bugs the more likely they are to be fixed. So if you can, find a little 
> time to send it off to Apple accessibility.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 7:42 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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>> Hi Donna, I ran into the same problem when helping my girlfriend restore 
>> from a back up. The verification code area was not accessible either. I 
>> haven't made it a chance to write to Apple accessibility but maybe it's 
>> something actual point out to them. And this happened on an iPhone 15+.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 3:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just wanted to make everyone aware of a problem I encountered when I 
>>> updated to IOS 18.  The update appeared to go off without a hitch, until I 
>>> had to enter my Pass code.  Voiceover did not speak any of the numbers in 
>>> the number pad.  I tried turning VO on and off, and restarting my phone, 
>>> and nothing helped.  My Brailliant said it was paired, but I could not use 
>>> it to enter my pass code.  I recommend that if possible, you have a sighted 
>>> person available when you update, in case you run into this same problem.  
>>> So much for improved accessibility. *sigh*
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: Important heads-up re updating to IOS 18

2024-09-16 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi Joseph,

I did send it off to  Apple accessibility this afternoon. I figure all the 
accessibility improvements in the world aren’t worth much if you end up blocked 
out of your phone. Anyway, as we all know the more people report these bugs the 
more likely they are to be fixed. So if you can, find a little time to send it 
off to Apple accessibility.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2024, at 7:42 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> Hi Donna, I ran into the same problem when helping my girlfriend restore 
> from a back up. The verification code area was not accessible either. I 
> haven't made it a chance to write to Apple accessibility but maybe it's 
> something actual point out to them. And this happened on an iPhone 15+.
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2024, at 3:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just wanted to make everyone aware of a problem I encountered when I 
>> updated to IOS 18.  The update appeared to go off without a hitch, until I 
>> had to enter my Pass code.  Voiceover did not speak any of the numbers in 
>> the number pad.  I tried turning VO on and off, and restarting my phone, and 
>> nothing helped.  My Brailliant said it was paired, but I could not use it to 
>> enter my pass code.  I recommend that if possible, you have a sighted person 
>> available when you update, in case you run into this same problem.  So much 
>> for improved accessibility. *sigh*
>> Cheers,
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Important heads-up re updating to IOS 18

2024-09-16 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I just wanted to make everyone aware of a problem I encountered when I updated 
to IOS 18.  The update appeared to go off without a hitch, until I had to enter 
my Pass code.  Voiceover did not speak any of the numbers in the number pad.  I 
tried turning VO on and off, and restarting my phone, and nothing helped.  My 
Brailliant said it was paired, but I could not use it to enter my pass code.  I 
recommend that if possible, you have a sighted person available when you 
update, in case you run into this same problem.  So much for improved 
accessibility. *sigh*
Cheers,
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Re: What’s New in iOS 18 Accessibility for Blind and DeafBlind Users – Helen Keller Services

2024-09-16 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
will give the user 2 new background sounds to choose 
>> from. Night and Fire are the 2 new options. Find them under 
>> Settings>Accessibility>Audio & Visual> Background Sounds.
>> 
>> Feeling the music
>> 
>> For those who wish to add an element to their music beyond the auditory, 
>> there is a feature in iOS 18 which will allow the user to take in the music 
>> through haptics. It can be located by going to Settings>Accessibility>Music 
>> Haptics and turning it on. At launch, the only app supported is Apple’s own 
>> Music app. As a Spotify subscriber, I’m hoping they get it together and 
>> support this feature.
>> 
>> Another year, another new set of features for Siri
>> 
>> Only Siri can interrupt
>> 
>> Sometimes, people in loud environments have noises which triggers Siri to 
>> listen, even as it responds to questions. iOS 18 brings the setting which 
>> makes it so that the user must say “hey Siri” or “Siri” to interrupt Siri’s 
>> responses. Find this option under Settings>Accessibility>Siri and then 
>> enabled Require “Siri” For Interruptions.
>> 
>> Siri can understand more speech
>> 
>> While in this Siri menu, there is another option which may be helpful to 
>> some called “Listen For Atypical Speech”. A friend of mine from the 
>> Carolinas who has a rather strong accent reported to me that Siri was able 
>> to recognize his voice much better than in iOS 17. I wouldn’t consider a 
>> southern accent to be “atypical” but he reports “decent improvements” when 
>> dictating.
>> 
>> Vocal shortcuts
>> 
>> Another handy feature in iOS 18 is the ability to add vocal shortcuts to 
>> invoke specific actions on iOS. These could be in the form of Siri, run a 
>> shortcut or to take a specific system action. After deciding on a unique 
>> phrase To train the iPhone for this unique phrase, you will need to repeat 
>> it 3 times. While iOS will listen for these shortcuts most of the time, it 
>> will not do so while the screen is dimmed unless the phone is connected to a 
>> power source.
>> 
>> Conclusion
>> 
>> Whether your access modality is through speech, braille or print, Apple has 
>> made some improvements to the user experience. The new mainstream functions 
>> are welcomed changes, but the new accessibility features are just as 
>> plentiful. Like I’ve written in so many ways since the first edition of this 
>> post with iOS 5. Whether you should upgrade or not depends on your specific 
>> use case. I would recommend checking out AppleVis’ list of new and fixed 
>> bugs prior to doing so.
>> 
>> iOS 18 is a free download available for all supported devices. if needed, 
>> More information on how to update the software on your device is available 
>> on this Apple Support page. <https://support.apple.com/en-us/118575>
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Article recapping Braille improvements on IOS 18

2024-09-16 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Does anyone know of a good article—as in the written word—about the new braille 
improvements in IOS 18.  I googled it, but all I got were podcasts.  No offense 
to anyone, but I hate podcasts.  They take way too long, and there’s way too 
much chatter.  I just don’t have time for all that.  I would much rather just 
read something.
TIA,
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Hello from Mark: Just Some General iOS App Comments

2024-09-15 Thread MacVisionaries
Hello All,

It’s been a while since last I posted so thought I would do so now.

1.
I am looking forward to buying the iPhone 16 Pro Max.

2.
I can’t wait to try out the new hearing-aid feature of the new Air Pods 
Pro, What a marvelous innovation by Apple.

3.
I just recently returned from a short trek to St. Louis and I am delighted 
to report that all of my core navigation apps worked beautifully with 
VoiceOver including Lyft, Uber, Yelp, TripIt (for sight seeing), The 
Southwest Air app, the Jet Blue app, the Delta Air app, and of course the 
Apple Maps app.  I mention the Apple Map app because a while back, when 
visiting San Francisco, the walking directions and the public 
transportation features of the app did not work as well as expected via 
VoiceOver.  This past week, however, all aspects of the app worked just as 
expected.  While in the mid-west, I also made extensive use of the 
Goodmaps, outdoor, app and was extremely pleased with its intersection 
announcement feature.

I hope everyone is doing well and thank you all for continuing to 
contribute to this community.

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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2024-09-13 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   I used to have Drafts but had to remove it for in some 
circumstances, its nag got in the way.


   Easy Edit looks quite promising however. Thanks for that one. :)

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On 9/13/2024 4:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,

I have an app called Easy Edit Text.  I don’t use it often, but it’s pretty 
straight forward and easy to use, from what I have seen.
Cheers,
Donna



On Sep 13, 2024, at 5:00 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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Just yesterday I learned about an app called Drafts and installed it. So
far it's just exactly what I needed.

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:

Hi all,
   Apple does not offer an iOS version of TextEdit. Is there a decent third
party app that is free?I want something for txt and rtf documents.

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Re: how do I find the all channels list in the SiriusXM app?

2024-09-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi Joe,

Yeah, I’ve been really surprised by how lousy VO accessibility is on the Sirius 
app.  Given the iPhone’s popularity, you would think they would have addressed 
that a long time ago.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 13, 2024, at 7:22 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> Now, if only the play button that doesn’t show up without screen, recognition 
> could show up next to the channel it would almost be perfect! It really 
> frustrates me that I have to click on the channel name and then if it doesn’t 
> route you to the play button find that. On android it’s so much cleaner and 
> that I can see the channel name and then right next to it as a play button. 
> Wish they would adopt this on iOS.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2024, at 7:41 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Colby,
>> 
>> Not Jen, but thanks!
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2024, at 6:13 AM, Kolby Garrison  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Jen,
>>> To view all channels:
>>> Activate the "Search" tab. There are three tabs along the bottom of the 
>>> screen. The "Search" tab might not be labeled. It is the second (or middle) 
>>> tab.
>>> You will now find a heading labeled "Search." Flicking to the right using 
>>> VoiceOver, you should encounter a "Search channels, genres, shows" text 
>>> field.
>>> Continue flicking to the right. You will encounter an element labeled as 
>>> "Search screen button, browse heading." If you use VoiceOver to read 
>>> character by character, the element is labeled "Browse."
>>> Continue flicking to the right. The next item you encounter is the item you 
>>> are looking for. It is labeled as "List item 1 of however many items are in 
>>> your specific list. Collection. All channels" button.
>>> Activating the "Collections. All channels" button places you in the "All 
>>> channels" screen, where you can then flick to the right to browse through 
>>> all of the channels.
>>> I hope these steps are helpful.
>>> Kolby Garrison
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Jen .
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 2:12 AM
>>> To: 'Donna MacVisionaries 
>>> Subject: how do I find the all channels list in the SiriusXM app?
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I have the latest version of the SiriusXM app on my iPhone 13 and wondering 
>>> where I find the all channels list now I have been to the screens and I'm 
>>> not seeing it. Please help.
>>> Jen
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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2024-09-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I have an app called Easy Edit Text.  I don’t use it often, but it’s pretty 
straight forward and easy to use, from what I have seen.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: how do I find the all channels list in the SiriusXM app?

2024-09-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hey Colby,

Not Jen, but thanks!
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 13, 2024, at 6:13 AM, Kolby Garrison  wrote:
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> Hi, Jen,
> To view all channels:
> Activate the "Search" tab. There are three tabs along the bottom of the 
> screen. The "Search" tab might not be labeled. It is the second (or middle) 
> tab.
> You will now find a heading labeled "Search." Flicking to the right using 
> VoiceOver, you should encounter a "Search channels, genres, shows" text field.
> Continue flicking to the right. You will encounter an element labeled as 
> "Search screen button, browse heading." If you use VoiceOver to read 
> character by character, the element is labeled "Browse."
> Continue flicking to the right. The next item you encounter is the item you 
> are looking for. It is labeled as "List item 1 of however many items are in 
> your specific list. Collection. All channels" button.
> Activating the "Collections. All channels" button places you in the "All 
> channels" screen, where you can then flick to the right to browse through all 
> of the channels.
> I hope these steps are helpful.
> Kolby Garrison
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> -Original Message-
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> Subject: how do I find the all channels list in the SiriusXM app?
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> Hi,
> I have the latest version of the SiriusXM app on my iPhone 13 and wondering 
> where I find the all channels list now I have been to the screens and I'm not 
> seeing it. Please help.
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Re: how do I find the all channels list in the SiriusXM app?

2024-09-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi Jen,

I think they took the All Channels list away in the latest iteration of the 
app.  In a way this makes sense, given how many channels there are, but 
nonetheless, I feel like I’m being micromanaged.  I have found that the For You 
screen is pretty good, though.  However, you probably already have to have some 
favorites saved for that to be useful.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: Strange mail problem on my iPhone

2024-09-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi Brad and Joe,

Thanks to you both for your help.  I had already restarted my phone, so I 
decided to try Joe’s suggestion.  I turned Push back on, and then restarted the 
Mail app and everything is now back to normal.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 12, 2024, at 10:21 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> Try restarting your mail program/your phone and hopefully that might change 
> some of that behavior.
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>> Hi all,
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>> For the last few days, mail isn’t downloading to my phone.  When I open 
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>> Additionally, after it does show that there are messages, when I go to open 
>> them, it says, Content has not been downloaded from the server.  There 
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>> trying to read.  I  googled the problem and read an article that suggested 
>> turning off Push in my Mail account and setting it to Fetch Automatically.  
>> I tried that, but it didn't change the behavior.  Anyone have any ideas as 
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>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Zoom App

2024-09-13 Thread 'Janina Sajka&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Yes, that's what Zoom calls itself these days. BTW: Zoom seems to want
always to have a second word in its title. Workplace is the current
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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2024-09-13 Thread 'Janina Sajka&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Just yesterday I learned about an app called Drafts and installed it. So
far it's just exactly what I needed.

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Strange mail problem on my iPhone

2024-09-12 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

For the last few days, mail isn’t downloading to my phone.  When I open mail, 
it shows no new mail until I swipe down to refresh content.  Additionally, 
after it does show that there are messages, when I go to open them, it says, 
Content has not been downloaded from the server.  There doesn’t seem to be 
anything I can do to get it to download the message I’m trying to read.  I  
googled the problem and read an article that suggested turning off Push in my 
Mail account and setting it to Fetch Automatically.  I tried that, but it 
didn't change the behavior.  Anyone have any ideas as to how to fix this 
problem?  It’s really annoying.
TIA,
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Re: iCloud drive

2024-09-12 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

   You need to add shift.

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On 9/12/2024 6:24 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

what’s the keyboard command for opening iCloud drive? Ithought it was command-I 
but that’s not working.

thanks.
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Re: Zoom App

2024-09-12 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   Great. I am reviewing settings and all that. I would love some tips 
on using Zoom. I had tried to use it once some time ago and failed. What 
steps are needed to make it work?


   Oh and does it matter which email account that I may receive the 
invite link in? Just curious as I have 3 accounts.


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On 9/12/2024 2:38 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

I believe this is correct. It is trying to compete with Teams, discord. and 
slack. I hope accessibility does not take a back seat.
Jonathan


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Zoom App

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Hello,
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Workplace. Is that the correct one I want?


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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2024-09-12 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

   Will this a[[ handle plain text as well as RTF?

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On 9/12/2024 11:14 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

hi,
RTF Write is definitely worth a try.
Best
Jürgen

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


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   Dropbox? I should add that I keep some documents on iCloud Drive. This 
simplifies the task of doing quick copy and paste.

   I have been using TextEditor which used to be free. Now when I lease need 
it, it pops up an ad and interferes with my tasks.

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On 9/12/2024 9:45 AM, Herbie Allen wrote:
Dropbox is what I use for Text editing on the iPhone. It definitely does text 
and I think it does RTF.

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Hi all,
   Apple does not offer an iOS version of TextEdit. Is there a decent third 
party app that is free?I want something for txt and rtf documents.

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Re: TextEdit for iOS

2024-09-12 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   Dropbox? I should add that I keep some documents on iCloud Drive. 
This simplifies the task of doing quick copy and paste.


   I have been using TextEditor which used to be free. Now when I lease 
need it, it pops up an ad and interferes with my tasks.


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Dropbox is what I use for Text editing on the iPhone. It definitely does text 
and I think it does RTF.


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Re: Apple Home won't connect to new wifi network

2024-09-11 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Well, we’re up, and I didn’t have to do anything.  I couldn’t sleep last night, 
so I reconnected the Orbi, just so our stuff would work this morning.  I just 
unplugged it, and everything is still working.  Go figure.
Cheers,
Donna


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> Ha!  That’s brilliant!  I have no idea where the circuit breaker is, but my 
> husband probably does.  I’ll give that a shot.  
> 
> Thanks also to you, Joe, for suggesting power cycling.  I’m relieved to hear 
> that this should work.  I really wasn’t looking forward to moving our 
> thermostats and all our smart plugs to the new network.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2024, at 8:29 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly  wrote:
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>> Hi Donna,
>> Assuming that the original router has been disconnected and the original 
>> network is no longer active, the issue likely has to do with the DHCP using 
>> a different IP address range for the local network on your new modem/router 
>> combo. Some devices will automatically switch, however it sounds like there 
>> are quite a few on your network that won’t until they are power cycled. The 
>> last time I rearranged my local network to use a different IP range, rather 
>> than going around the house and power cycling everything one at a time, I 
>> managed to save some time by doing this from my circuit breaker panel. 
>> Hopefully this resolves the issue for you. 
>> 
>> Hai
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2024, at 10:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> We switched internet providers today.  I configured the network on our new 
>>> router to have the same name and password as our old network in the hope of 
>>> not having to migrate all our smart devices to the new network.  However, 
>>> they are not connecting.  Anyone have any thoughts as to what the problem 
>>> could be?  The new modem is an Eero 6 Pro, in case that matters, and my 
>>> phone is using the new network.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Apple Home won't connect to new wifi network

2024-09-11 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Ha!  That’s brilliant!  I have no idea where the circuit breaker is, but my 
husband probably does.  I’ll give that a shot.  

Thanks also to you, Joe, for suggesting power cycling.  I’m relieved to hear 
that this should work.  I really wasn’t looking forward to moving our 
thermostats and all our smart plugs to the new network.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 11, 2024, at 8:29 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly  wrote:
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> Hi Donna,
> Assuming that the original router has been disconnected and the original 
> network is no longer active, the issue likely has to do with the DHCP using a 
> different IP address range for the local network on your new modem/router 
> combo. Some devices will automatically switch, however it sounds like there 
> are quite a few on your network that won’t until they are power cycled. The 
> last time I rearranged my local network to use a different IP range, rather 
> than going around the house and power cycling everything one at a time, I 
> managed to save some time by doing this from my circuit breaker panel. 
> Hopefully this resolves the issue for you. 
> 
> Hai
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2024, at 10:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> We switched internet providers today.  I configured the network on our new 
>> router to have the same name and password as our old network in the hope of 
>> not having to migrate all our smart devices to the new network.  However, 
>> they are not connecting.  Anyone have any thoughts as to what the problem 
>> could be?  The new modem is an Eero 6 Pro, in case that matters, and my 
>> phone is using the new network.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Apple Home won't connect to new wifi network

2024-09-10 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

We switched internet providers today.  I configured the network on our new 
router to have the same name and password as our old network in the hope of not 
having to migrate all our smart devices to the new network.  However, they are 
not connecting.  Anyone have any thoughts as to what the problem could be?  The 
new modem is an Eero 6 Pro, in case that matters, and my phone is using the new 
network.
TIA,
Donna


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YouTube videos and how to find the links included in associated notes using Voi9ceover

2024-09-08 Thread 'Andrew&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi,

When watching YouTube videos, I often hear the author saying, “I will put a 
link in the notes for you etc.”.  I can never locate such links using 
Voiceover.  Is there a way of finding and activating such links?

Many thanks

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Re: How do I stop VoiceOver from reading notifications on Lock Screen?

2024-09-07 Thread mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries
Thanks Brad,


> On Sep 7, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> You will find this in VoiceOver settings > Verbosity > System Notifications.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 7, 2024, at 11:09, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries 
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> Dear List, 
> Can someone refresh my memory, I can not find How to stop VoiceOver from 
> automatically reading notifications on Lock Screen on the iPhone.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

2024-09-05 Thread 'Janina Sajka&#x27; via MacVisionaries
You don't need Facebook, either. It's true you have to set up an account
with Meta, though.


If AIRA is coming to these glasses, that changes my thinking about the
glasses. I'm currently on the fence whether to keep them, but I'm also
certain I'd keep them if AIRA worked with them.

Kaare Dehard writes:
> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free through 
> your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14???AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > ???Hi all,
> > 
> > I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
> > Era?
> > Thanks,
> > Donna
> > 
> >> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58???AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
> >> solved my problem:
> >> 
> >> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
> >> 
> >> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
> >> 
> >> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
> >> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
> >> setup process.
> >> 
> >> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
> >> 
> >> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
> >> Vis post with the same problem here:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
> >> 
> >> 
> >> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
> >> 
> >> Janina
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
> >>> Hi Brad:
> >>> 
> >>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
> >>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
> >>> problem as described, unfortunately.
> >>> 
> >>> Argh!
> >>> 
> >>> Bradford Snyder writes:
> >>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
> >>>> if that helps.
> >>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
> >>>> screen is unreadable.
> >>>> 
> >>>> - Brad -
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
> >>>>> them to my iPhone. I also
> >>>>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
> >>>>> for myself.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
> >>>>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
> >>>>> reads:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
> >>>>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
> >>>>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
> >>>>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there 
> >>>>> is on Android).
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
> >>>>> welcome!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
> >>>>> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
> >>>>> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>>> Janina
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
> >>>>> Accessibility Consultant https:/

Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

2024-09-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Oh, that’s kinda cool!  It didn’t occur to me that you could do that, but it 
makes total sense.
Cheers
Donna

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:01 AM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Ryan is correct about that.
> I started the setup, but never finished. Now I have to start all over.
> Have just been using them as bluetooth headset so far.
> Obviously haven’t been using them much, but know a lot of people who have.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:50, Ryan Mann  wrote:
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> I was asked to sign into Meta when I was setting up my Meta Glasses. I had 
> the option to use my Facebook account.
> 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, weird.  That does surprise me, given that everyone in the world wants 
>> you to create an account with them.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No Meta account is required.
>>> There's a free app called Meta View that can be downloaded from the iOS App 
>>> Store.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
>>> account.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
>>>> through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
>>>>> Era?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>>>>>> solved my problem:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>>>>>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>>>>>> setup process.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>>>>>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>>>>> Hi Brad:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>>>>>>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>>>>>>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Argh!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>>>>>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and 
>>>>>>>> see if that helps.
>>>>>>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>>>>>>> screen is unreadable.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Ja

Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

2024-09-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
That’s more like what I would expect.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:50 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> I was asked to sign into Meta when I was setting up my Meta Glasses. I had 
> the option to use my Facebook account.
> 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, weird.  That does surprise me, given that everyone in the world wants 
>> you to create an account with them.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No Meta account is required.
>>> There's a free app called Meta View that can be downloaded from the iOS App 
>>> Store.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
>>> account.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
>>>> through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
>>>>> Era?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>>>>>> solved my problem:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>>>>>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>>>>>> setup process.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>>>>>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>>>>> Hi Brad:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>>>>>>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>>>>>>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Argh!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>>>>>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and 
>>>>>>>> see if that helps.
>>>>>>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>>>>>>> screen is unreadable.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>>>>>>>>> them to my iPhone. I also
>>>>>>>>> have the 

Can I put recorded music from a radio station, onto my Iphone 11

2024-09-05 Thread meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries
Hi all.

 

I enjoy listening to Jazz music on my radio and record individual tracks
that I like.

 

Am I able to copy these tracks of music onto my Iphone and if so how do I do
it?  Like drag and drop.

 

Best wishes.

 

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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

2024-09-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Oh, weird.  That does surprise me, given that everyone in the world wants you 
to create an account with them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> No Meta account is required.
> There's a free app called Meta View that can be downloaded from the iOS App 
> Store.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
> account.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
>> 
>> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
>> through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
>>> Era?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>>>> solved my problem:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>>>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>>>> setup process.
>>>> 
>>>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>>>> 
>>>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>>>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>>>> 
>>>> Janina
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>>> Hi Brad:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>>>>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>>>>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Argh!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>>>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
>>>>>> if that helps.
>>>>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>>>>> screen is unreadable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>>>>>>> them to my iPhone. I also
>>>>>>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
>>>>>>> for myself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
>>>>>>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>>>>>>> reads:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
>>>>>>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
>>>>>>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
>>>>>>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there 
>>>>>>> is on Android).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
>>>>>>> welcome!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm aware there are Fac

Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

2024-09-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Thanks, Brad.  I hadn’t planned to use Aira anyway, but it’s good to know none 
the less.
Best,
Donna


> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:30 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Facebook is not required to set up a free Aira account. While you may be able 
> to use it that way via single sign-on, it is not required.
> Also, at this time the Ray-Ban Meta-frame  glasses cannot be used with Aira. 
> As said by an earlier poster, this program is in early beta, but I wouldn't 
> hold my breath on it. I think there are too many privacy issues to be 
> overcome, and Aira puts privacy first. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:16, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> 
> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
> through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
>> Era?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>>> solved my problem:
>>> 
>>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>>> 
>>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>>> 
>>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>>> setup process.
>>> 
>>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>>> 
>>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>> Hi Brad:
>>>> 
>>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>>>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>>>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>>>> 
>>>> Argh!
>>>> 
>>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
>>>>> if that helps.
>>>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>>>> screen is unreadable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>>>>>> them to my iPhone. I also
>>>>>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
>>>>>> for myself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
>>>>>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>>>>>> reads:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
>>>>>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
>>>>>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
>>>>>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is 
>>>>>> on Android).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
>>>>>> welcome!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
>>>>>> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
>>>>>> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,

Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

2024-09-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi Joseph,

Yes, I did mean Aira.  Don’t seem to be able to type this morning. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Do you mean Aira? If so then I believe they would. Its still in early beta to 
> my knowledge so they have not released to many details on this.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 9:14 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta 
> Glasses on iPhone)
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to Era?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how 
>> I solved my problem:
>> 
>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>> 
>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>> 
>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the 
>> setup process.
>> 
>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>> 
>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an 
>> Apple Vis post with the same problem here:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-me
>> ta-view-app
>> 
>> 
>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi Brad:
>>> 
>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was 
>>> the only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains 
>>> a problem as described, unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> Argh!
>>> 
>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
>>>> if that helps.
>>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>>> screen is unreadable.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>>>> them to my iPhone. I also have the Meta View app installed and I've 
>>>> successfully created a login for myself.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've 
>>>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>>>> reads:
>>>> 
>>>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>>>> 
>>>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen 
>>>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing 
>>>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, 
>>>> there's also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out 
>>>> there is on Android).
>>>> 
>>>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most 
>>>> welcome!
>>>> 
>>>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, 
>>>> but I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd 
>>>> rather not sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Janina
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
>>>> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
>>>> 
>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>>> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
>>>> http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>>>> 
>>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
>>>> 
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

2024-09-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
account.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> 
> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free through 
> your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
>> Era?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>>> solved my problem:
>>> 
>>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>>> 
>>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>>> 
>>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>>> setup process.
>>> 
>>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>>> 
>>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>> Hi Brad:
>>>> 
>>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>>>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>>>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>>>> 
>>>> Argh!
>>>> 
>>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
>>>>> if that helps.
>>>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>>>> screen is unreadable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>>>>>> them to my iPhone. I also
>>>>>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
>>>>>> for myself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
>>>>>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>>>>>> reads:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
>>>>>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
>>>>>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
>>>>>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is 
>>>>>> on Android).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
>>>>>> welcome!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
>>>>>> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
>>>>>> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
>>>>>> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>>>>> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>>>>>> 
>>&

Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

2024-09-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to Era?
Thanks,
Donna

> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
> solved my problem:
> 
> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
> 
> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
> 
> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
> setup process.
> 
> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
> 
> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
> Vis post with the same problem here:
> 
> 
> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
> 
> 
> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi Brad:
>> 
>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>> 
>> Argh!
>> 
>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see if 
>>> that helps.
>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>> screen is unreadable.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired them 
>>> to my iPhone. I also
>>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
>>> for myself.
>>> 
>>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
>>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>>> reads:
>>> 
>>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>>> 
>>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
>>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
>>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
>>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is on 
>>> Android).
>>> 
>>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
>>> welcome!
>>> 
>>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
>>> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
>>> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
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Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone

2024-09-03 Thread 'Janina Sajka&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
solved my problem:

1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.

2. I scrolled down with three fingers.

3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
setup process.

Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.

PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
Vis post with the same problem here:


https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app


That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!

Janina


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> Hi Brad:
> 
> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
> problem as described, unfortunately.
> 
> Argh!
> 
> Bradford Snyder writes:
> > You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see if 
> > that helps.
> > I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
> > screen is unreadable.
> > 
> > - Brad -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired them 
> > to my iPhone. I also
> > have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
> > for myself.
> > 
> > I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
> > shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
> > reads:
> > 
> > Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
> > 
> > Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
> > instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
> > further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
> > also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is on 
> > Android).
> > 
> > So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
> > welcome!
> > 
> > I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
> > I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
> > sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Janina
> > 
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Re: Meta Glasses on iPhone

2024-09-03 Thread 'Janina Sajka&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi Brad:

I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
problem as described, unfortunately.

Argh!

Bradford Snyder writes:
> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see if 
> that helps.
> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps screen 
> is unreadable.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired them to 
> my iPhone. I also
> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
> for myself.
> 
> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
> reads:
> 
> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
> 
> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is on 
> Android).
> 
> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
> welcome!
> 
> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Janina
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> 
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> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures   http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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RE: Dynamic Island

2024-09-02 Thread 'Eileen Scrivani &#x27; via MacVisionaries
No, typically I don't have things in the island unless I launch something 
accidentally and then its really difficult to get back to the main portion of 
the screen where I do have an app I need to access. All I know is apple help 
told me to do the two finger  swipe and I thought it was to if not get rid of 
it to perhaps minimize it. It does help most of the time, but there are other 
times when it seems like the dynamic island has taken up the entire screen.
 
Eileen



-Original Message-
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dynamic Island

The dynamic island cannot be hidden, or gotten out of the way. It is there all 
the time. There's nothing you can do about that.
If there are items in your dynamic island, such as music, podcast, or even 
Uber, you can select and then double tap on them to open them up for more 
information.
When you're finished with that item, you do a two finger swipe to close that 
item which minimizes it back to within the dynamic island.

- Brad -

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The Dynamic Island is the one thing on my 15 Pro phone that drives me crazy. 
There is a gesture using two fingers where you slide either left to right or 
right to left across the top of the screen to try and close it or at least get 
it out of  the way. I'm not even sure I'm doing it correctly but when it seems 
to cloase up or whatever happens to it with this 2 finger gesture it makes a 
ping sound. I wish they would give us blind people some option to put it 
somewhere out of the way completely.

Eileen

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Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 11:25 AM
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Subject: Dynamic Island

Hello,
   Is this feature of use to us? If not, can it be removed from the status bar 
on the iPhone 15?

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Re: Apple TV Plus

2024-09-02 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

   Thanks Michael. I shall give it a shot. Appreciate the feedback.

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On 9/2/2024 5:29 PM, Michael Irons wrote:

Hello everybody when I got my new iPhone, which was the SE two I got the three 
months of Apple TV+ for free and I went ahead and tried it and found it worth 
my while because the programs that came up and also movies and audio 
descriptive tracks available with them and if you pair the phone to a good 
Bluetooth, smart speaker, the sound was also really good as well. Get back to 
me if you have any questions. I know other people may not like Apple TV+ but I 
found it worthwhile especially since all the movies had audio descriptive 
tracks available and also they were a few movies that I was able to catch up 
with that. I hit may be into a theater in scene, but didn’t catch everything. 
It was good to catch up with the old movies and fill in the gaps of what I 
understood about them.

Sent from my iPhone


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Hello,
   One of the "updates" available with the new phone is Apple TV Plus. I can 
try it free for 3 months but wanted to ask if it would be worth my time. Opinions please.

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Apple TV Plus

2024-09-02 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

Hello,
   One of the "updates" available with the new phone is Apple TV Plus. 
I can try it free for 3 months but wanted to ask if it would be worth my 
time. Opinions please.


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RE: Dynamic Island

2024-09-02 Thread 'Eileen Scrivani &#x27; via MacVisionaries
The Dynamic Island is the one thing on my 15 Pro phone that drives me crazy. 
There is a gesture using two fingers where you slide either left to right or 
right to left across the top of the screen to try and close it or at least get 
it out of  the way. I'm not even sure I'm doing it correctly but when it seems 
to cloase up or whatever happens to it with this 2 finger gesture it makes a 
ping sound. I wish they would give us blind people some option to put it 
somewhere out of the way completely.

Eileen

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Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 11:25 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Dynamic Island

Hello,
Is this feature of use to us? If not, can it be removed from the status bar 
on the iPhone 15?

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Re: New iPhone 15

2024-09-02 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   well that is a figure of speech. :) Thanks, will see how it goes 
next trip to the store Friday.


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On 9/2/2024 1:06 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:

First of all, you do not put your phone on a terminal, rather you hold your 
phone a couple of inches above the NFC sensor, which is usually located near 
the top or bottom of the payment terminal’s touchscreen.
Before you do that however, make sure your phone is unlocked, and then you 
press the side-button twice quickly, and then hold your phone near the payment 
terminal.
Once payment is complete, your phone will make a distinctive “Ping” sound, and 
you will feel a vibration.

After a few times, you will get the hang of it.

- Brad -



On Sep 2, 2024, at 14:25, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Thank you for all the help. I am getting to the new gestures now. The screen 
is ever so sensitive. But I am adjusting. And got Face ID done. When I next use 
Apple Pay at the store, what should I hear when I put the phone on the terminal?

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On 8/30/2024 4:17 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Here is what I do:
 How to go to to the passcode screen when unlocking the phone.
Do a single tap on the center of the screen to wake it up, then if you are not 
already in the area to type in your code, swipe up with one finger from the 
center bottom of the screen and slide the finger up to about 1/2 to 3/4 way up. 
You should find a text field nearish the top to type in and keyboard layout 
nearer the bottom.
How to open the app switcher.
Again, Swipe up with one finger from the center, bottome edge of the screen 
again about 1/2 to 3/4 way up and you will hear VO say app switcher.
 How to close an app and return to the home screen.
Close an app on the app switcher screen. Find the app you want to close and 
with one finger give a short flick  up or down and it will toggle between 
cloase or active when you hear the option you want single finger tap it. From 
any app, go to the bottom center edge of phone slide up only about 1/4 way and 
it will bring you to the home screen.
  Can one use both Face ID and passcode?
Yes.
Lastly, any tips on creating and using Face ID?
Call the Apple accessibility help desk and they can do a screen share with you 
to help guide you through face recog setup.
Eileen
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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 6:04 PM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: New iPhone 15
Hi all,
 Just came home with this iPhone. Some gestures I need help with.
 How to go to to the passcode screen when unlocking the phone.
 How to close an app and return to the home screen.
 How to open the app switcher.
 Can one use both Face ID and passcode? Lastly, any tips on creating and 
using Face ID?
 Thanks. It will take a while to get used to not having Touch ID.
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Re: New iPhone 15

2024-09-02 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   Thank you for all the help. I am getting to the new gestures now. 
The screen is ever so sensitive. But I am adjusting. And got Face ID 
done. When I next use Apple Pay at the store, what should I hear when I 
put the phone on the terminal?


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On 8/30/2024 4:17 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Here is what I do:

 How to go to to the passcode screen when unlocking the phone.
Do a single tap on the center of the screen to wake it up, then if you are not 
already in the area to type in your code, swipe up with one finger from the 
center bottom of the screen and slide the finger up to about 1/2 to 3/4 way up. 
You should find a text field nearish the top to type in and keyboard layout 
nearer the bottom.

How to open the app switcher.
Again, Swipe up with one finger from the center, bottome edge of the screen 
again about 1/2 to 3/4 way up and you will hear VO say app switcher.

 How to close an app and return to the home screen.
Close an app on the app switcher screen. Find the app you want to close and with 
one finger give a short flick  up or down and it will toggle between cloase or 
active when you hear the option you want single finger tap it. >From any app, 
go to the bottom center edge of phone slide up only about 1/4 way and it will 
bring you to the home screen.
  
Can one use both Face ID and passcode?

Yes.
Lastly, any tips on creating and using Face ID?
Call the Apple accessibility help desk and they can do a screen share with you 
to help guide you through face recog setup.

Eileen

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 Just came home with this iPhone. Some gestures I need help with.

 How to go to to the passcode screen when unlocking the phone.

 How to close an app and return to the home screen.

 How to open the app switcher.

 Can one use both Face ID and passcode? Lastly, any tips on creating and 
using Face ID?

 Thanks. It will take a while to get used to not having Touch ID.

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Re: Dynamic Island

2024-09-02 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

   Sounds like a project for a quiet day.

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On 9/2/2024 8:54 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Yes, it is accessible, and whether you find it useful or not, is up to you and 
how you use your iPhone.
Either way, it cannot be removed. It is there whether you use it or not.

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Hello,
   Is this feature of use to us? If not, can it be removed from the status bar 
on the iPhone 15?

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Dynamic Island

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Hello,
   Is this feature of use to us? If not, can it be removed from the 
status bar on the iPhone 15?


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Meta Glasses on iPhone

2024-09-02 Thread 'Janina Sajka&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired them to my 
iPhone. I also
have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
for myself.

I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
reads:

Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?

Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is on 
Android).

So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
welcome!

I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.

Thanks in advance,
Janina


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Re: Pairing Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-08-31 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

   Ok I finally got the keyboard paired. :)

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Hi all,
    While I was able to pair most of my Bluetooth devices to the iPhone 
15, I am having a devil of a time pairing the Logitech MX keyboard. If I 
manage to get a code (2 or 3 times), I fail to enter the code quickly 
enough. Not sure why I don't succeed   more often to get a code. Could 
use some ideas here. Thanks much.


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Pairing Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-08-31 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

Hi all,
   While I was able to pair most of my Bluetooth devices to the iPhone 
15, I am having a devil of a time pairing the Logitech MX keyboard. If I 
manage to get a code (2 or 3 times), I fail to enter the code quickly 
enough. Not sure why I don't succeed   more often to get a code. Could 
use some ideas here. Thanks much.


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TV purchase not showing up on phone corrected

2024-08-31 Thread ngc5055 via MacVisionaries
Hi, Through apple support  it was noticed that vo is not reading what it should 
when opening deep space nine content. The rep said to click on Sci Fi  1993  
and this is actually where all 7 seasons are. He will make a note of this to 
apple.
Thanks.
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TV purchase problem on iPhone

2024-08-31 Thread ngc5055 via MacVisionaries
Hi,
A TV purchase from the TV app on my iPhone SE 2020 does not appear. The show 
does appear on my iPad. What can I do to correct this? Thanks.
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Re: Removing Bluetooth Devices

2024-08-31 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

   I needed that reminder. Thanks Brad.

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On your old iPhone, you can remove paired bluetooth devices as follows:

1.  Open Settings > Bluetooth.
2.  Navigate to a device you wish to remove, and swipe up (or down) to More 
Info.
3.  Now, swipe left to right in order to navigate all the way to the end of the 
More Info page, and you will eventually find a button labeled Forget This 
Device.

HTH.

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   I need to remove my connected Bluetooth devices from my old iPhone. I can't 
get to the Forget this Device, I only get the dialog about a failed connection. 
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Removing Bluetooth Devices

2024-08-31 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

Hi all,
   I need to remove my connected Bluetooth devices from my old iPhone. 
I can't get to the Forget this Device, I only get the dialog about a 
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Re: New iPhone 15

2024-08-30 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

Eileen,
   Thanks much. Very helpful! I'm getting used to this now. Will spend 
the weekend with this. Cheers.


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On 8/30/2024 4:17 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Here is what I do:

 How to go to to the passcode screen when unlocking the phone.
Do a single tap on the center of the screen to wake it up, then if you are not 
already in the area to type in your code, swipe up with one finger from the 
center bottom of the screen and slide the finger up to about 1/2 to 3/4 way up. 
You should find a text field nearish the top to type in and keyboard layout 
nearer the bottom.

How to open the app switcher.
Again, Swipe up with one finger from the center, bottome edge of the screen 
again about 1/2 to 3/4 way up and you will hear VO say app switcher.

 How to close an app and return to the home screen.
Close an app on the app switcher screen. Find the app you want to close and with 
one finger give a short flick  up or down and it will toggle between cloase or 
active when you hear the option you want single finger tap it. >From any app, 
go to the bottom center edge of phone slide up only about 1/4 way and it will 
bring you to the home screen.
  
Can one use both Face ID and passcode?

Yes.
Lastly, any tips on creating and using Face ID?
Call the Apple accessibility help desk and they can do a screen share with you 
to help guide you through face recog setup.

Eileen

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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 6:04 PM
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Subject: New iPhone 15

Hi all,
 Just came home with this iPhone. Some gestures I need help with.

 How to go to to the passcode screen when unlocking the phone.

 How to close an app and return to the home screen.

 How to open the app switcher.

 Can one use both Face ID and passcode? Lastly, any tips on creating and 
using Face ID?

 Thanks. It will take a while to get used to not having Touch ID.

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RE: New iPhone 15

2024-08-30 Thread 'Eileen Scrivani &#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Here is what I do:

How to go to to the passcode screen when unlocking the phone.
Do a single tap on the center of the screen to wake it up, then if you are not 
already in the area to type in your code, swipe up with one finger from the 
center bottom of the screen and slide the finger up to about 1/2 to 3/4 way up. 
You should find a text field nearish the top to type in and keyboard layout 
nearer the bottom.

How to open the app switcher.
Again, Swipe up with one finger from the center, bottome edge of the screen 
again about 1/2 to 3/4 way up and you will hear VO say app switcher. 

How to close an app and return to the home screen.
Close an app on the app switcher screen. Find the app you want to close and 
with one finger give a short flick  up or down and it will toggle between 
cloase or active when you hear the option you want single finger tap it. From 
any app, go to the bottom center edge of phone slide up only about 1/4 way and 
it will bring you to the home screen.
 
Can one use both Face ID and passcode? 
Yes.
Lastly, any tips on creating and using Face ID?
Call the Apple accessibility help desk and they can do a screen share with you 
to help guide you through face recog setup.

Eileen

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From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 6:04 PM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: New iPhone 15

Hi all,
Just came home with this iPhone. Some gestures I need help with.

How to go to to the passcode screen when unlocking the phone.

How to close an app and return to the home screen.

How to open the app switcher.

Can one use both Face ID and passcode? Lastly, any tips on creating and 
using Face ID?

Thanks. It will take a while to get used to not having Touch ID.

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New iPhone 15

2024-08-30 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

Hi all,
   Just came home with this iPhone. Some gestures I need help with.

   How to go to to the passcode screen when unlocking the phone.

   How to close an app and return to the home screen.

   How to open the app switcher.

   Can one use both Face ID and passcode? Lastly, any tips on creating 
and using Face ID?


   Thanks. It will take a while to get used to not having Touch ID.

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RE: Question Re MS Teams ...

2024-08-29 Thread 'Eileen Scrivani &#x27; via MacVisionaries
Okay, Thanks. I do use Outlook on my Windows computer.

 

Eileen

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2024 7:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Re MS Teams ...

 

There are two modes to MS Teams.

1. Personal 

2. Corporate 

 

In both cases, it uses features from SHarePoint and Exchange to allow file 
sharing. 

and scheduling. When I set up a [personal account, it prompted me for my 
GITHUB/MS account information. Perhaps your email is associated with 
outlook.com <http://outlook.com>  or another MS based mail service? That is the 
only reason, I can think of to provide your e-mail password to Teams. 

I would have expected Microsoft to be more clear on this, since getting access 
to an eMail is an easy way to get access to a change password process for a 
significant number of accounts.

 

 





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wrote:

 

Hi,

 

In a few weeks I will need to do a phone call or session with someone using MS 
Teams. I downloaded the app to my phone and in starting the setup, it wanted 
both my email and its password. Exactly how does MS Teams work and why would it 
require the password to my email account?

 

Thanks for any information on using this.

 

Eileen

 

 

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Re: microsoft word docs in mail

2024-08-28 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

Brad,
   Is there a setting to enable this reader view? This morning I was 
able to enter my credentials into Word. I still get the below dialog. 
Intriguing issue.


Office Open XML word processing document 369 KB

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It should not matter if word is working, or even installed on your iPhone. When 
you open a Microsoft Word document that is attached to an email, the file opens 
in a viewer within the Mail app on your iPhone.
I've been using an iPhone for more than 10 years, and this is how it has always 
worked.
Just to test and make sure nothing has changed, I just now opened a word file 
that was sent to me as an attachment in an email I received earlier this week. 
The word document opened in the viewer within the Mail app on my iPhone as 
expected.
I do not understand why others are having a problem Doing this.

- Brad -

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 wrote:

   In that case I will take a look to see if Word itself is working for me=
.

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That's interesting.
I've been doing this on Microsoft Word DOC  and DOCX files for as long as=

I've have been using an iPhone.

=20
- Brad -
=20
On Aug 27, 2024, at 13:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
legroups.com> wrote:

=20
=EF=BB=BF   This does not work for me on the iPhone for .docx files. It d=

oes for plain text files and am sure other file types will work.

=20
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On 8/27/2024 10:19 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Sounds to me like you're doing a double tap and hold, which brings up a =

context menu of choices.

Try doing just a simple one finger double tap. That should open up the d=

ocument in a reader view.

- Brad -
On Aug 26, 2024, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
=EF=BB=BFI have tried it several times. about the only options presented=

to me are "save to files" an tags. nothing about reading anywhere.

Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 26, 2024, at 3:36 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
=EF=BB=BFI have no idea what that menu could be.
When I do a one finger double tap on the attachment, it opens in a viewe=

r window within the mail app.

I suggest you go back and try it again.
- Brad -
On Aug 26, 2024, at 13:03, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
=EF=BB=BFI tried that first but I could only get a menu.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 25, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
=EF=BB=BFSelect and then do a one finger double tap on the attached docu=

ment. It will open in a reader within the mail app. You should have no prob=
lem reading it from there.

- Brad -
On Aug 25, 2024, at 23:08, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
=EF=BB=BFI got a word doc in an email. I only have oy phone right now be=

cause I'm away from home. How can I read that attachment? do I need to remo=
ve it from the email first? I can't get it to openor to show me the text.

thanks.
Lorie
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Is it possible to create an email group of people who are not in my contacts?

2024-08-28 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I want to create different email groups for my students.  My students are not 
in my contacts.  Is there a way to do this without adding them all to my 
contacts?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: microsoft word docs in mail

2024-08-27 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   Turns out I need to sign in with my current credentials. Strange 
thing is, using my Bluetooth keyboard, it seems to be stuck in caps on. 
Outside of Word, the keyboard behaves as it should.


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That's interesting.
I've been doing this on Microsoft Word DOC  and DOCX files for as long as I've 
have been using an iPhone.

- Brad -

On Aug 27, 2024, at 13:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   This does not work for me on the iPhone for .docx files. It does for plain 
text files and am sure other file types will work.

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On 8/27/2024 10:19 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Sounds to me like you're doing a double tap and hold, which brings up a context 
menu of choices.
Try doing just a simple one finger double tap. That should open up the document 
in a reader view.
- Brad -
On Aug 26, 2024, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
I have tried it several times. about the only options presented to me are "save to 
files" an tags. nothing about reading anywhere.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 26, 2024, at 3:36 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
I have no idea what that menu could be.
When I do a one finger double tap on the attachment, it opens in a viewer 
window within the mail app.
I suggest you go back and try it again.
- Brad -
On Aug 26, 2024, at 13:03, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
I tried that first but I could only get a menu.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 25, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
Select and then do a one finger double tap on the attached document. It will 
open in a reader within the mail app. You should have no problem reading it 
from there.
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On Aug 25, 2024, at 23:08, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
I got a word doc in an email. I only have oy phone right now because I'm away 
from home. How can I read that attachment? do I need to remove it from the 
email first? I can't get it to openor to show me the text.
thanks.
Lorie
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Re: microsoft word docs in mail

2024-08-27 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

   In that case I will take a look to see if Word itself is working for me.

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That's interesting.
I've been doing this on Microsoft Word DOC  and DOCX files for as long as I've 
have been using an iPhone.

- Brad -

On Aug 27, 2024, at 13:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   This does not work for me on the iPhone for .docx files. It does for plain 
text files and am sure other file types will work.

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On 8/27/2024 10:19 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Sounds to me like you're doing a double tap and hold, which brings up a context 
menu of choices.
Try doing just a simple one finger double tap. That should open up the document 
in a reader view.
- Brad -
On Aug 26, 2024, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
I have tried it several times. about the only options presented to me are "save to 
files" an tags. nothing about reading anywhere.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 26, 2024, at 3:36 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
I have no idea what that menu could be.
When I do a one finger double tap on the attachment, it opens in a viewer 
window within the mail app.
I suggest you go back and try it again.
- Brad -
On Aug 26, 2024, at 13:03, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
I tried that first but I could only get a menu.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 25, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
Select and then do a one finger double tap on the attached document. It will 
open in a reader within the mail app. You should have no problem reading it 
from there.
- Brad -
On Aug 25, 2024, at 23:08, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
I got a word doc in an email. I only have oy phone right now because I'm away 
from home. How can I read that attachment? do I need to remove it from the 
email first? I can't get it to openor to show me the text.
thanks.
Lorie
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TTJTech Services, Register For Our Upcoming Voiceover Class

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Re: microsoft word docs in mail

2024-08-27 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   This does not work for me on the iPhone for .docx files. It does for 
plain text files and am sure other file types will work.


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On 8/27/2024 10:19 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Sounds to me like you're doing a double tap and hold, which brings up a context 
menu of choices.
Try doing just a simple one finger double tap. That should open up the document 
in a reader view.

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On Aug 26, 2024, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I have tried it several times. about the only options presented to me are "save to 
files" an tags. nothing about reading anywhere.

Sent from my iPhone

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I have no idea what that menu could be.
When I do a one finger double tap on the attachment, it opens in a viewer 
window within the mail app.
I suggest you go back and try it again.

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On Aug 26, 2024, at 13:03, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I tried that first but I could only get a menu.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Select and then do a one finger double tap on the attached document. It will 
open in a reader within the mail app. You should have no problem reading it 
from there.

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I got a word doc in an email. I only have oy phone right now because I'm away 
from home. How can I read that attachment? do I need to remove it from the 
email first? I can't get it to openor to show me the text.

thanks.
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Re: microsoft word docs in mail

2024-08-26 Thread 'Jason J.G. White&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Try a double tap and hold on the button that opens the attachment. This may open a context menu. I haven’t checked what options are in there, but a Web search suggests there should be an option to choose the application with which to open the file. From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries Date: Monday, August 26, 2024 at 07:23To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: microsoft word docs in mailIt would be nice to have an "Open With" option. Janina Brad Snyder writes: > Select and then do a one finger double tap on the attached document. It will open in a reader within the mail app. You should have no problem reading it from there. > > - Brad - > > On Aug 25, 2024, at 23:08, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > ???I got a word doc in an email. I only have oy phone right now because I'm away from home. How can I read that attachment? do I need to remove it from the email first? I can't get it to openor to show me the text. > > thanks. > Lorie > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4C8D9FCB-AAC1-440E-8C04-1BA489AB2B42%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F1B0D225-686B-445E-AC5A-D1A97879BEFC%40swbell.net. -- Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa Linux Foundation Fellow https://wwwlinuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/Zsxlsa2Nz-0eRxrA%40rednote.net. 



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Re: microsoft word docs in mail

2024-08-26 Thread 'Janina Sajka&#x27; via MacVisionaries
It would be nice to have an "Open With" option. 


Janina

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> Select and then do a one finger double tap on the attached document. It will 
> open in a reader within the mail app. You should have no problem reading it 
> from there.
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> On Aug 25, 2024, at 23:08, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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Question Re MS Teams ...

2024-08-25 Thread 'Eileen Scrivani &#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi,

 

In a few weeks I will need to do a phone call or session with someone using
MS Teams. I downloaded the app to my phone and in starting the setup, it
wanted both my email and its password. Exactly how does MS Teams work and
why would it require the password to my email account?

 

Thanks for any information on using this.

 

Eileen

 

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SE and iPhone 15

2024-08-25 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

Hello,
   What is the main differences between these models?

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Re: View iPhone in Finder

2024-08-24 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   Bingo. Finder settings, sidebar. Apple is sneaky for I never had the 
cd/dvd option checked so did not let Voiceover announce the full label. 
There it is, iOS devices tacked on the end of that option. Thanks for 
the nudge.


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On 8/24/2024 12:32 AM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote:

USB or Wi-Fi connection?

You are, of course, looking in the Finder sidebar? You have configured Finder 
Sidebar preferences to include iOS devices?

Try rebooting both Mac and iPhone. Sometimes that shakes out some gremlin or 
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Re: View iPhone in Finder

2024-08-24 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu&#x27; via MacVisionaries
USB or Wi-Fi connection?

You are, of course, looking in the Finder sidebar? You have configured Finder 
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Try rebooting both Mac and iPhone. Sometimes that shakes out some gremlin or 
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Re: View iPhone in Finder

2024-08-23 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   Today I tried with latest iPadOS 17, was told I needed to apply an 
update, so updated Ventura. And still no joy.


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On 8/23/2024 5:34 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:

I also do not see the iPhone in my Finder. iPhone 14 Pro with latest iOS 17 and 
MacBookPro with Sonoma 14.5. Never have seen the iPHone show up in Finder. All 
types of media are checked in the Finder settings.


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   The latest iOS 16. and macOS Ventura.

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What version of iOS are you running on the iPhone?
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First, connect the iPhone and make sure it is unlocked.
Open Finder using CMD plus shift plus H.
You should now find your iPhone in the sidebar.
HTH.
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Re: View iPhone in Finder

2024-08-23 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

   The latest iOS 16. and macOS Ventura.

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What version of iOS are you running on the iPhone?


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First, connect the iPhone and make sure it is unlocked.
Open Finder using CMD plus shift plus H.
You should now find your iPhone in the sidebar.
HTH.
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Re: View iPhone in Finder

2024-08-23 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries
   That is what I am doing, but the iPhone is not showing in the 
sidebar. Perplexing.


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On 8/23/2024 10:44 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

First, connect the iPhone and make sure it is unlocked.
Open Finder using CMD plus shift plus H.
You should now find your iPhone in the sidebar.

HTH.


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On Aug 23, 2024, at 12:30, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,
   Have done this before but drawing a blank. When the iPhone is connected to 
the Mac, it is not showing in the Finder.

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View iPhone in Finder

2024-08-23 Thread 'E.T.&#x27; via MacVisionaries

Hi all,
   Have done this before but drawing a blank. When the iPhone is 
connected to the Mac, it is not showing in the Finder.


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Re: Adjusting value for pitch change in VO on the Mac?

2024-08-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
That’s a great suggestion, but it’s probably easier to just learn to live with 
it. :). Sometimes I do use a braille display, but when doing something short, 
such as writing an email like this, I just rely on speech.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Aug 22, 2024, at 12:44 PM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
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> You could also turn off the pitch changes and re-enable them selectively in 
> situations in which you need them. VoiceOver Activities may help with it.
> I use the Braille display when editing text, so the problem doesn’t arise, 
> but everyone has different use cases, of course.
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> No, I don't believe you can change this. You may want to try using a 
> different voice and see if that makes a difference. - Brad - On Aug 22, 2024, 
> at 08:16, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi all, I have VO set to 
> change pitch to announce capital letters. Ever since upgrading to Sonoma, the 
> pitch change is way to large - every time VO reads a capital letter, my 
> speech sounds like a person who’s inhaled helium being strangled. It’s really 
> kind of awful. Is there any way to reduce the extent to which the pitch 
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Re: Adjusting value for pitch change in VO on the Mac?

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You could also turn off the pitch changes and re-enable them selectively in situations in which you need them. VoiceOver Activities may help with it.I use the Braille display when editing text, so the problem doesn’t arise, but everyone has different use cases, of course. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Brad Snyder Date: Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 09:23To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Adjusting value for pitch change in VO on the Mac?No, I don't believe you can change this. You may want to try using a different voice and see if that makes a difference. - Brad - On Aug 22, 2024, at 08:16, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi all, I have VO set to change pitch to announce capital letters. Ever since upgrading to Sonoma, the pitch change is way to large - every time VO reads a capital letter, my speech sounds like a person who’s inhaled helium being strangled. It’s really kind of awful. Is there any way to reduce the extent to which the pitch changes? TIA, Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E642DACB-AC56-4D81-8676-B7B03DCFD7F7%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4E5C3A97-AABD-4122-BD19-6693177F5964%40swbell.net. 



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Re: Adjusting value for pitch change in VO on the Mac?

2024-08-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Ah, too bad.  Thanks, though.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 22, 2024, at 8:22 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> No, I don't believe you can change this.
> You may want to try using a different voice and see if that makes a 
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> On Aug 22, 2024, at 08:16, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
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> I have VO set to change pitch to announce capital letters.  Ever since 
> upgrading to Sonoma, the pitch change is way to large - every time VO reads a 
> capital letter, my speech sounds like a person who’s inhaled helium being 
> strangled.  It’s really kind of awful.  Is there any way to reduce the extent 
> to which the pitch changes?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Adjusting value for pitch change in VO on the Mac?

2024-08-22 Thread 'Donna Goodin&#x27; via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

I have VO set to change pitch to announce capital letters.  Ever since 
upgrading to Sonoma, the pitch change is way to large - every time VO reads a 
capital letter, my speech sounds like a person who’s inhaled helium being 
strangled.  It’s really kind of awful.  Is there any way to reduce the extent 
to which the pitch changes?
TIA,
Donna

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