RE: Anyone using a Logitech MX keyboard for Mac?

[Michael Babcock]

I am using this keyboard right now and like it.

Sadly, I have not had any success on mac with the Logi Options, it was 
completely inaccessible.

Have a wonderful day.

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-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2024 4:08 PM
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Subject: Anyone using a Logitech MX keyboard for Mac?

Hi all,

I just bought one of these keyboards to take to Europe in lieu of my Mac.  
Anyone else using one?  One thing I’m wondering about is the Logi Options app.  
From what I can find, it’s for Mac only.  Can anyone confirm or deny?  Second, 
if you’ve installed it on a Mac, how accessible is it?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Zoom H1 essential recorder with voice guidance

[Michael Babcock]

If, for some reason, the voice guidance isn't heard on your H1E, please follow 
these troubleshooting steps.

Number one, turn the device on by pulling the slider switch toward you on the 
left side of the device holding it for a second and then releasing. You will 
hear startup sound, even if the volume is turned all the way down.

Number two, slide your finger up the left side of the device until you feel the 
knob to turn up the volume. Push this knob up or away from you. And continue 
until you can no longer push it.

Note, you will hear the start up sound even if the volume is turned all the way 
down. You will not hear the device speak to you.

If pressing the knob all the way up, does not allow the device to speak to you, 
press the button on the right edge of the device. This takes you into the menu.
At this point will use the four buttons directly below the screen to navigate 
the menu:
press the second button in from the left under the display twice. 
Next, Press the right most button once and this will take you into the system 
menu. 
Press the third button from the left, once to highlight accessibility, 
Press the fourth button from the left once to enter this menu
Press the fourth button from the left once again and this will take you into 
the guide sound. 
Press that fourth button from the left again to enable English plus beep.

Please let us know if these directions do not assist.
Best
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> On Mar 9, 2024, at 11:52 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> I saw this new recorder from Zoom in the 80 guys bulletin and so I picked one 
> up and it just arrived. Unfortunately the manuals are crap. Although, I think 
> I can suss out the various buttons and such. The problem is knowing how to 
> operate the menu system. I think you first have to go in and activate The 
> voice guidance, kinda like turning on voiceover for the first time. Is 
> anybody else using this recorder? I’m not gonna send it back right away, I’ll 
> mess around with it but I think I may have made a mistake purchase here. 
> Please let me know if you’re using it. 
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Re: dropbox on a Mac

[Michael Babcock]

You mentioned in your original email, your Ventura, unfortunately, the ability 
to disable link previews is only available in Mac Mail Sonoma. It is not 
available in previous macOS versions.

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> On Feb 8, 2024, at 1:45 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> is that in the mail app or in system settings? I pressed command comma in 
> mail but couldn’t find it. maybe it’s somewhere else.
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>> In the Mail settings, go to Compose, and uncheck the box for link previews.
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 15:39, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> is there still a way to alter a dropbox link so that if the receiver clicks 
>>> on it it will download for them? I used to be able to do this by 
>>> backspacing out the zero at the end of the link and replacing it with a 1. 
>>> now, in Ventura the dropbox links don’t read the same way with voiceover so 
>>> I don’t know what to do or if I can do anything.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: Using Parallels

[Michael Babcock]

Someone shared this on mastodon the other day, and it blew my mind. Hopefully 
it'll help you!

What I suggest is map these to either numb pad or keyboard commanders, and then 
you can toggle the behavior of your caps key on the Mac. I'll copy the read me 
below.


I'll share a link feel free to check out the Apple, scripts on your own, but if 
you set the caps key to an insert key, then using laptop, layout, with jaws on 
windows in parallel, seems to be fairly well for me. The only major pain that I 
have is control, left and right arrows tend to not move me word by word…

https://github.com/TyflosAccessibleSoftware/ChangeKeyForVM

readme.md

# Change keyboard for Virtual machine

AppleScript to change the behaviour of the caps lock key for Virtual machines

## Description

This repository includes some apple scripts to modify the behaviour of the 
physical keyboard.

### KeyboardForVM
 
This AppleScript modifies the behaviour of the **caps lock** key changing it 
for other key.

This function is usefull for blind developers who needs to use a screen reader 
in a Virtual machine.

When a Windows virtual machine is running the screen readers usually use the 
**Insert** key as the *HotKey* for the screen reader but this key is not 
available in a MacOS keyboard.

Using this script the key *Caps lock* can be changed for other key to manage a 
screen reader in the Virtual machine.

 Usage

Run the script to show the behaviour selector for the **Caps lock** key and 
press *Enter*.

You have to use this script when you will start a Virtual machine app.

### KeyboardRemapper

This script allows us to remap a key with other one.

The available keys are: caps lock, left shift, right shift, left command, right 
command, left alt, right alt, left control and right control.

 Usage

Run the script to remap one of the available keys to other one.

If you need to remap more keys you have to run the script again.

### ResetCapsLock
 
This AppleScript resets the behaviour of the **caps lock** key.

This function is usefull for blind developers who needs to use a screen reader 
in MacOS.

 Usage

Run the script to aply the remap to the **Capslock** key.

You have to use this script when you finish to use a Virtual machine app.

### RemapCapsLockToInsert
 
This AppleScript modifies the behaviour of the **caps lock** key changing it to 
the **Insert** key.

This function is usefull for blind developers who needs to use a screen reader 
in a Virtual machine.

When a Windows virtual machine is running the screen readers usually use the 
**Insert** key as the *HotKey* for the screen reader but this key is not 
available in a MacOS keyboard.

 Usage

Run the script to aply the remap to the **Capslock** key.

You have to use this script when you will start a Virtual machine app.

## Information

These scripts use the command **hidutil**.
These changes are not permanent and the changes will be back when you reboot 
your machine or when you close your user session.

### Tips

You can convert these scripts in an application to run it easily.

To do this follow these steps:

* Open this script in the *Script editor*
* In the File menu choose the *Export* option
* In the Field *format* select *Application* and press the button *Save*
* Copy the new Application in your applications folder.

## Localization

The scripts are translated to English and Spanish.

You can translate each script changing the values in the **on setup()** 
function.

Please, contact me to include new translations for these scripts.

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Copyright 2022-2023 Tyflos Accessible Software. All rights reserved.

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> On Dec 29, 2023, at 8:02 AM, 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi folks.
> I still have and intel mac and wanted to get a new one in the new year.
> I’ve been playing with Parallels, and so far I like it.
> I just can’t seem to get the Caps lock key to work with Jaws or NVDA.
> Does Anyone have any idea?
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Re: Converting HDIC to PNG

[Michael Babcock]

Hi!

Firstly, you can convert the current photos with shortcuts or tools on the Mac. 
Let us know how you have your current images and what you’re trying to do with 
them.

If you want you can go to settings, then camera and change the format to most 
compatible and this should give you more of a compatible format.

Hope this helps a little.

Best
Michael - KJ7PAZ
Payown Media, LLC



> On Dec 27, 2023, at 7:35 PM, John Dowling, jr. <1008...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> When I take photos on my iPhone, they show up as .hdic files.
> Does anyone know where I can convert them to PNG’s?
> Thanks,
> 
> John Dowling, Jr.
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Re: Adding Widgets on Mac OS

[Michael Babcock]

Hi Joseph and all!

Find "Using widgets from iOS 17 on macOS 14’s desktop”, this was the episode I 
was thinking of:

https://unmute.show/2023/10/01/using-widgets-from-ios-17-on-macos-14s-desktop/

VO+O to open notification center
Locate edit widgets button
Locate the widget
Interact with the preview, find the size you want
Use actions menu on the size you want, and choose Drag to desktop.
You can also press vo+Space on this widget to add to the desktop.
It looks like it’s easy to add both Mac and IOS widgets to the desktop, however 
I also am not seeing how to move those widgets or add new ones to the 
Notification Center.
It does say "Drag a widget to place it on the desktop or Notification Center…” 
but doesn’t make it clear how to drag or add to the Notification Center.
I did try VO+ < and VO + . As well as vo+command+shift+space
To drag and then toggle the notification center and attempt to drop in the 
widgets there, and that didn't work either.


Best
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> On Dec 26, 2023, at 3:19 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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> Hey Michael, if you wouldn’t mind sharing the recording, I’d like to hear 
> that! Thank you so much
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2023, at 1:40 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hey there,
>> 
>> So first, if you haven’t yet, try checking under the actions menu, VO plus 
>> command plus space and see if there’s an option to add there. I did a 
>> recording for adding widgets to the desktop on Mac, and don’t quite remember 
>> how to do it, but will be glad to share steps tomorrow. Are you trying to 
>> add widget to the desktop or to the notification center? Have a beautiful 
>> day.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 25, 2023, at 7:34 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Can someone point me to the proper method to add/remove widgets on the 
>>> latest Mac OS.
>>> 
>>> I tried this article from Apple but it doesn’t seem to work.
>>> 
>>> I know how to open the Notification Center, indicate I want to edit widgets 
>>> and find those I want. This is where I get stuck. I can activate the widget 
>>> and it shows up in the preview area. At that point I’m stuck.
>>> 
>>> https://support.apple.com/guide/voiceover/notification-center-vo082d92ca69/mac#:~:text=Add%20or%20remove%20widgets%3A%20Navigate,then%20press%20VO%2DSpace%20bar.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
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Re: Adding Widgets on Mac OS

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Hey there,So first, if you haven’t yet, try checking under the actions menu, VO plus command plus space and see if there’s an option to add there. I did a recording for adding widgets to the desktop on Mac, and don’t quite remember how to do it, but will be glad to share steps tomorrow. Are you trying to add widget to the desktop or to the notification center? Have a beautiful day.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 25, 2023, at 7:34 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:Hello,Can someone point me to the proper method to add/remove widgets on the latest Mac OS.I tried this article from Apple but it doesn’t seem to work.I know how to open the Notification Center, indicate I want to edit widgets and find those I want. This is where I get stuck. I can activate the widget and it shows up in the preview area. At that point I’m stuck.https://support.apple.com/guide/voiceover/notification-center-vo082d92ca69/mac#:~:text=Add%20or%20remove%20widgets%3A%20Navigate,then%20press%20VO%2DSpace%20bar.Kelly



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Re: Fantastical

[Michael Babcock]

Hi!

I’ve also had this issue Jürgen.

My friend Damashe suggested that I use the mini calendar, control+option+space 
and then choose from the event list.

Thanks for your email.

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> On Oct 11, 2023, at 12:22 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> is anyone using Fantastical? I wonder whether it’s possible to open an event 
> from the grid in month view. I’m only able to open an event from the events 
> list in the Sidebar.
> 
> ;Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
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Re: Voiceover announces "Annotation Grammatical Error" in MS products

[Michael Babcock]

Hi!

What I would try doing is the following:

Access, the VoiceOver Utility, choose verbosity, choose the text tab, then 
locate:
Choose how to announce misspelled words in spoken text.
Try either setting this to sound or disabling it. Then return to the document 
and see if you still get the same feedback.

If you don't, then you can set this as an activity for when you access 
Microsoft Word. If you do still get the feedback, it's probably worth reaching 
out to the Microsoft disability answer desk to see if they have any feedback 
for you.

Https://aka.ms/dad

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> On Oct 10, 2023, at 2:23 AM, Mohamed Fayed  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Hope my mail finds you well,
> 
> I wonder why I hear Voiceover announcing “Annotation Grammatical Error" in 
> MS-Office products like word and powerpoint. It is quite annoying especially 
> because I can not find a meaning or a good reason for it!
> 
> I’m using Mac OS 13.5.2 and MS-Office business Pro 16.77.*. I downloaded 
> MS-Office  earlier this year from Microsoft website.
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Re: New Kindle App For Mac

[Michael Babcock]

Hey Kelly,

Thanks for sharing this.

I had not checked out Kindle on the Mac and will download this early next week 
to play with it.

Have a beautiful day.

best
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> On Sep 30, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I don’t know what sort of results others had trying to read Kindle books on a 
> Mac but for me it never worked. Earlier this month Amazon replaced the Mac 
> Kindle app with a new one that can be downloaded from  
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/f.html?C=2NDKK4Z370WL0=OENZWTSEAM6Y=urn:rtn:msg:20230928201021b6d8bf2029864addbf5336a46160p0na=3QSXJRRSLV94F=C=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Famazon-kindle%2Fid302584613=644ZGOXXVAQQLVDV9HYCDHXJGOYA.
> 
> This version seems to work with VoiceOver a lot like the iOS version does. So 
> far continuous reading seems to stop at the end of each page and you have to 
> use a next page command in the app to get more content. Maybe there’s an 
> option I’m not finding to change this.
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Re: Mac mini as laptop replacement?

[Michael Babcock]

Hi!

I did move from a MacBook AIR to just a Mac mini with a wireless keyboard.

It obviously won’t let you use it on the GO, so if this is important for you 
then you would need to likely stick with a laptop (MacBook Air or pro).

If you do not move around it will work just fine with a wireless keyboard. I 
use the MX Keys personally.

Hope this helps.

Best
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Re: Saving Audio

[Michael Babcock]

Hi,

It wasn't clear as to where they posted the audio, if they posted it to 
YouTube, use a tool to download the video, such as Downie - The Fastest Video 
Converter

https://www.hitpaw.net/sem/video-converter-youtube-b.html
Alternatively, what I would do is simply use Audio Hijack and capture the audio 
from the tool that actually playing it if it wasn't available on YouTube or 
couldn't be downloaded with the aforementioned tool.

Hope that helps a little..

Best
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>   No responses yet. Surely this can be done. Again thanks.
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> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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> On 7/15/2023 3:13 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>A local TV station posted a video of a band playing a piece. I want to 
>> save the audio, how to do this? Thanks.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Focus/do not disturb individual device

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Hi!

Access System Settings, locate the focus option, and unselect Share across 
devices 

Hope this helps.

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Re: Since upgrade to Ventura, unable to read tables in Safari

[Michael Babcock]

Hi Matthew,

Oh, I used a tool called VOCR to be able to read the set up screens, once I'm 
in windows, I just use windows command.

Hope that helps! Here's a link too. VOCR.


https://github.com/chigkim/VOCR
chigkim/VOCR
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> On Jun 25, 2023, at 6:33 PM, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I have not seen any problems with tables in safari at least with basic ones.  
> I have not seen any complecs tables enough to really test how they work.  
> 
> Michiel, how did you get the paroles to work with vo?  Just wondered as I 
> last heard it was not accessible and the developpers had not plans to make it 
> so.  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
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> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Since upgrade to Ventura, unable to read tables in Safari
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> I'll second that I have issues with tables in some instances in Safari.
> 
> It would be interesting if anyone can share some site that they experience 
> issues with to see if other people are, as maybe it's a configuration issue 
> that some of us have not made an order to navigate tables. All of the tables 
> I have problems with our internal tools that I cannot share access to, 
> however, it does pop up occasionally, and this is what pushed me to actually 
> purchase parallels. I wanted to actually work, and could not do that in 
> Safari, or edge with VoiceOver on the Mac, as the table would not allow you 
> to use your VoiceOver plus up and down, left and right keys in order to 
> navigate it at all. And, disabling the ability to group tables had no impact.
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 1:10 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joseph,
>> 
>> Well, I’m glad I’m not the only one, I guess.  For me it’s a little 
>> different. I interact with the table, but can’t read any of the columns.
>> 
>> I agree with you about the Safari busy thing.  That's sooo 
>> annoying!!! For a while now, I’ve kept a Mac and a Pc. I was really hoping 
>> the day was coming when I could ditch the PC, but it doesn’t sound like 
>> that’s going to happen any time soon.  It seems to me that Apple’s putting 
>> all of its energy into new products, when they ought to be working on 
>> tightening up the existing ones.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:16 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m actually having problems too. Usually what tends to happen is I can 
>>> read it sometimes but then if I go right then move left on a particular 
>>> row, it will completely mess up! From what I can see it tends to be a 
>>> Safari thing I’ve used edge and it seems to be a bit better there although 
>>> sometimes it still happens! It’s really annoying and actually has me 
>>> Considering selling my Mac. The Safari busy and now this really has me 
>>> contemplating whether or not this machine is worth the money.  The only 
>>> thing kind of keeping me from doing this is I just don’t like how Windows 
>>> works either. That being said, at least I can read tables and browse the 
>>> web fairly easy!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 06:27, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been using Ventura on two different machines since October, and have 
>>>>> not noticed any issue with tables in safari webpages. The behavior seems  
>>>>> consistent with previous versions of safari and the macOS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 07:49, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject says it all.  Since upgrading to Ventura, I find that very often 
>>>>> I am unable to read the content of tables in Safari.  Is there some trick 
>>>>> to this that I don’t know about?  If not, that is a huge miss by Apple.  
>>>>> There are lots of websites that use tables.  If there is, I’d appreciate 
>>>>> any help.
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
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Re: Since upgrade to Ventura, unable to read tables in Safari

[Michael Babcock]

Hi Donna,

I'll second that I have issues with tables in some instances in Safari.

It would be interesting if anyone can share some site that they experience 
issues with to see if other people are, as maybe it's a configuration issue 
that some of us have not made an order to navigate tables. All of the tables I 
have problems with our internal tools that I cannot share access to, however, 
it does pop up occasionally, and this is what pushed me to actually purchase 
parallels. I wanted to actually work, and could not do that in Safari, or edge 
with VoiceOver on the Mac, as the table would not allow you to use your 
VoiceOver plus up and down, left and right keys in order to navigate it at all. 
And, disabling the ability to group tables had no impact.

> On Jun 24, 2023, at 1:10 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joseph,
> 
> Well, I’m glad I’m not the only one, I guess.  For me it’s a little 
> different. I interact with the table, but can’t read any of the columns.
> 
> I agree with you about the Safari busy thing.  That's sooo 
> annoying!!! For a while now, I’ve kept a Mac and a Pc. I was really hoping 
> the day was coming when I could ditch the PC, but it doesn’t sound like 
> that’s going to happen any time soon.  It seems to me that Apple’s putting 
> all of its energy into new products, when they ought to be working on 
> tightening up the existing ones.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:16 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m actually having problems too. Usually what tends to happen is I can read 
>> it sometimes but then if I go right then move left on a particular row, it 
>> will completely mess up! From what I can see it tends to be a Safari thing 
>> I’ve used edge and it seems to be a bit better there although sometimes it 
>> still happens! It’s really annoying and actually has me Considering selling 
>> my Mac. The Safari busy and now this really has me contemplating whether or 
>> not this machine is worth the money.  The only thing kind of keeping me from 
>> doing this is I just don’t like how Windows works either. That being said, 
>> at least I can read tables and browse the web fairly easy!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree. 
>>> 
 On Jun 24, 2023, at 06:27, Brad Snyder  wrote:
 
 I've been using Ventura on two different machines since October, and have 
 not noticed any issue with tables in safari webpages. The behavior seems  
 consistent with previous versions of safari and the macOS.
 
 - Brad -
 
 On Jun 24, 2023, at 07:49, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Subject says it all.  Since upgrading to Ventura, I find that very often I 
 am unable to read the content of tables in Safari.  Is there some trick to 
 this that I don’t know about?  If not, that is a huge miss by Apple.  
 There are lots of websites that use tables.  If there is, I’d appreciate 
 any help.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: Running Windows on Apple Silicon MBP

[Michael Babcock]

VOCR will take a photo of the screen and let you as the user navigate the 
screenshot and click on items in it.

It is my go to app if a Mac app isn’t accessible.

Best
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> On Apr 27, 2023, at 7:15 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> What exactly is VOCR? The web page didn’t really describe what it was or how 
> it works.
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 7:54 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> 
>> I am currently running windows 11 on an M2 Mac mini. I’m using parallels, 
>> had to use VOCR in order to get through the set up process, but it’s a 
>> pretty seamless process to get going.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just saw a post from someone about an option called UTM. I understand 
>>> they have made some recent changes to improve accessibility.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 19:22, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Last I checked, Parallels was not accessible with Voiceover, in order to 
>>>> run Windows on an Apple Silicon Mac, you need to sign up for the Microsoft 
>>>> insider program and download Windows for ARM processors which has not been 
>>>> officially released. If you need to use Windows you would be better off 
>>>> just getting a PC.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Jessica Moss  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> To my knowledge, parallels is the only way to do this.  However, I’ve 
>>>>> never attempted to do this, so I’m not sure as to how accessible running 
>>>>> parallels is.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Mohamed Fayed  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What is the recommended method for running windows 10 or 11 on Apple 
>>>>>> Silicon with Mac OS 13? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I may run either windows 10 or 11. What would be the best option? Or 
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Re: Running Windows on Apple Silicon MBP

[Michael Babcock]

Hi
It is not!

Hear are 2 resources that may help:

VOCR: https://github.com/chigkim/VOCR
Downloads – Install Parallels 
Desktop,https://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/download/
Using Parallels for Mac (2022) 
https://www.applevis.com/forum/macos-mac-apps/using-parallels-mac-2022

Hope this helps.


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 5:35 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Ok will try Parallels is this on the app store?
> 
> On 4/26/23, Joe Hodge  wrote:
>> UTM worked for me but it was a bit tricky installing. Paralells was much
>> easier using VOCR.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: mattias jonsson 
>> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 11:18 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Running Windows on Apple Silicon MBP
>> 
>> dont use utm
>> utm dont support tpm etc
>>> 27 apr. 2023 kl. 02:30 skrev Herbie Allen :
>>> 
>>> I just saw a post from someone about an option called UTM. I understand
>>> they have made some recent changes to improve accessibility.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 26, 2023, at 19:22, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
 
 Last I checked, Parallels was not accessible with Voiceover, in order to
 run Windows on an Apple Silicon Mac, you need to sign up for the
 Microsoft insider program and download Windows for ARM processors which
 has not been officially released. If you need to use Windows you would be
 better off just getting a PC.
 
> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Jessica Moss 
> wrote:
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> To my knowledge, parallels is the only way to do this.  However, I've
> never attempted to do this, so I'm not sure as to how accessible running
> parallels is.
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Mohamed Fayed  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>> 
>> What is the recommended method for running windows 10 or 11 on Apple
>> Silicon with Mac OS 13?
>> 
>> I may run either windows 10 or 11. What would be the best option? Or
>> actually what are the available options in this regards?
>> 
>> How software looks like ?
>> 
>> Thank you so much,
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Re: Running Windows on Apple Silicon MBP

[Michael Babcock]

I am currently running windows 11 on an M2 Mac mini. I’m using parallels, had 
to use VOCR in order to get through the set up process, but it’s a pretty 
seamless process to get going.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> I just saw a post from someone about an option called UTM. I understand they 
> have made some recent changes to improve accessibility.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 19:22, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> Last I checked, Parallels was not accessible with Voiceover, in order to run 
>> Windows on an Apple Silicon Mac, you need to sign up for the Microsoft 
>> insider program and download Windows for ARM processors which has not been 
>> officially released. If you need to use Windows you would be better off just 
>> getting a PC.
>> 
 On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> To my knowledge, parallels is the only way to do this.  However, I’ve never 
>>> attempted to do this, so I’m not sure as to how accessible running 
>>> parallels is.
>>> 
 On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Mohamed Fayed  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Hope my mail finds you well,
 
 What is the recommended method for running windows 10 or 11 on Apple 
 Silicon with Mac OS 13? 
 
 I may run either windows 10 or 11. What would be the best option? Or 
 actually what are the available options in this regards?
 
 How software looks like ?
 
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Re: Capture audio from YouTube

[Michael Babcock]

Hi

Several ways of doing this.

Firstly if you use a tool like Downie you can drop a YouTube url on the app and 
it will download the audio if you configure it. You also can use a tool like 
audio hijack to do this as well.

NOTE: Downie is in SetApp , you can save money and help me out if you use this 
referral link , but you also can get 
Downie independently if needed . 
Especially if you don’t need any other apps in SetApp.

I hope this helps.



> On Apr 6, 2023, at 7:48 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Using a Mac, are there any apps that will capture the audio portion of 
> Youtube videos while they are playing?
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Re: tabs in Safari on an iPhone

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If you’d like your tabs to automatically be closed on your iPhone, access settings. Then, choose Safari, and under the tabs heading you’ll find a button that will say something similar to.Close Tabs Choose this button to determine how often safari automatically closes tabs.Note, if you triple tap or double tap and hold on the tabs button in the lower right hand corner if your tabs bars at the bottom of the screen, there’s an option to close all tabs. I hope this helps and you have a beautiful day!Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 3, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:I believe there is an option in the options to expire tabs after a time period.
		Best wishes,Jonathan Cohn

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Re: New HomePods?

[Michael Babcock]

I have not heard the HomePod in person, but do own a couple of HomePod minis.

I also have 2 of the Sonos 1 speakers. With Airplay 2 it is quite nice to get 
the minis and Sonos talking with each other.

Start music in the kitchen and then tell SIRI to Play it in the Living Room.

I'm just using the Sonos assistant on the two Sonos ones that I have in the 
living room, and Siri for now is working though I'm hoping come WWDC in June 
there's some improvements To the entire experience with Siri!


best
Michael - KJ7PAZ
> On Mar 30, 2023, at 9:56 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> I bought one and brought it in and tested. I didn’t like it. Too much bass. 
> Even when I turned off the base option in the Home app, it still just sounded 
> tinny then. I much prefer what Sonos is offering. Also, Siri still does her 
> miraculous things like on it still searching. It’s just not for me until 
> Apple fixes this stuff.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 12:35 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't hear them personally, but it's my understanding and my 
>> observations over an Internet connection that the new HomePods have a more 
>> brighter sound, and do sound a little cleaner. Everyone who I've heard that 
>> owns these devices, loves them and feel that the investment into them is 
>> well worth it. Hope this helps a little! Have a beautiful day and safe 
>> travels.
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 9:33 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh great! Looking forward to listening to it. But I’m actually about to be 
>>> in transit to the local Apple store, or I should say nearest Apple store, 
>>> which is about two hours away. Any chance you could summarize your Takeaway?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 10:11 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna!
>>>> 
>>>> We did a podcast recording of the new home pods, vs the previous gen and 
>>>> HomePod MINI on the IA Cast at this link 
>>>> <https://pinecast.com/listen/001cc2aa-294e-477a-85cd-f898616ae5fc.mp3>. I 
>>>> hope it helps!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 7:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just wondering if anyone has had a chance to try out the latest gen 
>>>>> HomePods yet.  If yes, thoughts? Are they worth the upgrade?
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: New HomePods?

[Michael Babcock]

Hi!

I hope you enjoyed the podcast, and sorry but all I could do is chuckle!

Have a wonderful afternoon.

best
Michael

> On Mar 30, 2023, at 1:34 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am listening to the podcast and while doing so it set off my current 
> HomePod and turned off VoiceOver.
> 
> Matthew
> 
>  
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 1:33 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Michael!
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Michael Babcock >> <mailto:michael@payown.media>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I didn't hear them personally, but it's my understanding and my 
>>> observations over an Internet connection that the new HomePods have a more 
>>> brighter sound, and do sound a little cleaner. Everyone who I've heard that 
>>> owns these devices, loves them and feel that the investment into them is 
>>> well worth it. Hope this helps a little! Have a beautiful day and safe 
>>> travels.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 9:33 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Oh great! Looking forward to listening to it. But I’m actually about to be 
>>>> in transit to the local Apple store, or I should say nearest Apple store, 
>>>> which is about two hours away. Any chance you could summarize your 
>>>> Takeaway?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 10:11 AM, Michael Babcock >>>> <mailto:michael@payown.media>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Donna!
>>>>> 
>>>>> We did a podcast recording of the new home pods, vs the previous gen and 
>>>>> HomePod MINI on the IA Cast at this link 
>>>>> <https://pinecast.com/listen/001cc2aa-294e-477a-85cd-f898616ae5fc.mp3>. I 
>>>>> hope it helps!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 7:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just wondering if anyone has had a chance to try out the latest gen 
>>>>>> HomePods yet.  If yes, thoughts? Are they worth the upgrade?
>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>> Donna
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Re: New HomePods?

[Michael Babcock]

I didn't hear them personally, but it's my understanding and my observations 
over an Internet connection that the new HomePods have a more brighter sound, 
and do sound a little cleaner. Everyone who I've heard that owns these devices, 
loves them and feel that the investment into them is well worth it. Hope this 
helps a little! Have a beautiful day and safe travels.

> On Mar 30, 2023, at 9:33 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh great! Looking forward to listening to it. But I’m actually about to be in 
> transit to the local Apple store, or I should say nearest Apple store, which 
> is about two hours away. Any chance you could summarize your Takeaway?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 10:11 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna!
>> 
>> We did a podcast recording of the new home pods, vs the previous gen and 
>> HomePod MINI on the IA Cast at this link 
>> <https://pinecast.com/listen/001cc2aa-294e-477a-85cd-f898616ae5fc.mp3>. I 
>> hope it helps!
>> 
>> 
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Re: New HomePods?

[Michael Babcock]

Hi Donna!

We did a podcast recording of the new home pods, vs the previous gen and 
HomePod MINI on the IA Cast at this link 
. I hope 
it helps!


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Re: Changing .pls file to open in vlc

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Hi Brad!

Thanks, I knew it was something simple.

These directions work well.


> On Jan 16, 2023, at 7:40 AM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Open a Finder window to the folder that contains the file.
> With focus on the file, press CMD + I, to open the More Info window.
> Navigate to "Open With”, and select your desired application from the pop-up 
> list.
> Next, navigate to "Use this application to open all documents like this 
> one.”, and select the Change All button.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 16, 2023, at 09:26, Michael Babcock  wrote:
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> Hi all!
> 
> I’m sure it’s a little thing, but could someone please help!
> 
> .pls files open in music on my Mac, and I want them to open in VLC, can 
> someone help me from having to press vo+shift+M, then selecting Open with, 
> then vlc.
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> Thanks for any help.
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Changing .pls file to open in vlc

[Michael Babcock]

Hi all!

I’m sure it’s a little thing, but could someone please help!

.pls files open in music on my Mac, and I want them to open in VLC, can someone 
help me from having to press vo+shift+M, then selecting Open with, then vlc.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: How does one compensate for PageUp and PageDown keys or Home and End keys on a MacBook Pro without an external full keyboard?

[Michael Babcock]

Hi Donna!

OK, I see now!

I can verify that this is the case for me as well.

E.G.

1. Open a email message (this one I’m in now for example)
2. Press fn+left or fn+right
3. Nothing Happens, focus stays in the current position.
4. Press fn+VO+Left or FN+VO+Right will move you to the start or end of an edit 
field.

Thanks for this.


> On Jan 8, 2023, at 9:29 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi Michael,
> 
> So if I go into keyboard help and press those keys—exactly as you describe—VO 
> does say Home, End etc.  But if I press FN plus an arrow key without the VO 
> modifier while in a document, webpage etc,nothing happens.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:23 AM, Michael Babcock > <mailto:michael@payown.media>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna!
>> 
>> To verify, when you press and hold FN, while pressing left or right in 
>> keyboard help mode with VO+K your saying your computer doesn’t say home or 
>> end unless you press the VO keys as well?
>> 
>> That is strange, on this MacBook Air, I can do the following steps:
>> 
>> 1. Press VO+K to enter keyboard help mode
>> 2. Press and hold the FN key, bottom left key
>> 3. While still pressing FN, press left or right and I hear Home or End 
>> respectively.
>> 
>> Have a beautiful day.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 9:07 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brad,. I am really tired of the obnoxious behavior you display on this 
>>> list.  Either learn to be civil, or get off the list.
>>> 
>>> I can reproduce this behavior flawlessly, and without exception.  Just 
>>> pressing the FN key does NOTHING! So, you can be rude all you want, but I’m 
>>> going to post my experience as there is probably someone else out there who 
>>> experiences the same thing, as I don’t that my Mac is an anomaly.  I don’t 
>>> doubt that your Mac behaves as you describe, but mine, and undoubtedly 
>>> others, do not.  So please don’t dismiss what I write out of hand.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Brad Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> You can disagree all you want, but the VO key is not necessary to change 
>>>> the behavior of the arrow keys when using the Fn key.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, Brad, but I have to disagree.  When I just press the FN key 
>>>> nothing happens.  When I press the VO modifier, the keys behave as you 
>>>> describe.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 9:27 AM, Bradford Snyder >>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Changing the behavior of the arrow keys is not a function of VoiceOver, 
>>>>> therefore it is not necessary to use the VO modifier in order to use the 
>>>>> alternate actions of the arrow keys as described in my original response.
>>>>> You can test this by turning on Keyboard Help, then press the different 
>>>>> arrow keys while holding down only the Fn key.
>>>>> Whether or not the VO modifier is used along with the Fn key makes no 
>>>>> matter.  The actions of the arrow keys will be the same.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just one addition to this, for me to use these commands, I also have to 
>>>>> hold down the VO keys.  So, VO-FN-right arrow for home, etc.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Bradford Snyder >>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you hold down the Fn key, the arrow keys become the following:
>>>>>> Left Arrow becomes the Home key.
>>>>>> Right Arrow becomes the End key.
>>>>>> Up Arrow becomes the Page Up key.
>>>>>> Down Arrow becomes the Page Down key.
>

Re: How does one compensate for PageUp and PageDown keys or Home and End keys on a MacBook Pro without an external full keyboard?

[Michael Babcock]

Hi Donna!

To verify, when you press and hold FN, while pressing left or right in keyboard 
help mode with VO+K your saying your computer doesn’t say home or end unless 
you press the VO keys as well?

That is strange, on this MacBook Air, I can do the following steps:

1. Press VO+K to enter keyboard help mode
2. Press and hold the FN key, bottom left key
3. While still pressing FN, press left or right and I hear Home or End 
respectively.

Have a beautiful day.


> On Jan 8, 2023, at 9:07 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brad,. I am really tired of the obnoxious behavior you display on this list.  
> Either learn to be civil, or get off the list.
> 
> I can reproduce this behavior flawlessly, and without exception.  Just 
> pressing the FN key does NOTHING! So, you can be rude all you want, but I’m 
> going to post my experience as there is probably someone else out there who 
> experiences the same thing, as I don’t that my Mac is an anomaly.  I don’t 
> doubt that your Mac behaves as you describe, but mine, and undoubtedly 
> others, do not.  So please don’t dismiss what I write out of hand.
> Donna
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> You can disagree all you want, but the VO key is not necessary to change the 
>> behavior of the arrow keys when using the Fn key.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, Brad, but I have to disagree.  When I just press the FN key nothing 
>> happens.  When I press the VO modifier, the keys behave as you describe.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 9:27 AM, Bradford Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Changing the behavior of the arrow keys is not a function of VoiceOver, 
>>> therefore it is not necessary to use the VO modifier in order to use the 
>>> alternate actions of the arrow keys as described in my original response.
>>> You can test this by turning on Keyboard Help, then press the different 
>>> arrow keys while holding down only the Fn key.
>>> Whether or not the VO modifier is used along with the Fn key makes no 
>>> matter.  The actions of the arrow keys will be the same.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just one addition to this, for me to use these commands, I also have to 
>>> hold down the VO keys.  So, VO-FN-right arrow for home, etc.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Jan 7, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Bradford Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 If you hold down the Fn key, the arrow keys become the following:
 Left Arrow becomes the Home key.
 Right Arrow becomes the End key.
 Up Arrow becomes the Page Up key.
 Down Arrow becomes the Page Down key.
 
 HTH.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2023, at 16:41, Kevin Gibbs >>> > wrote:
 
 Sometimes, I don’t have my full extended keyboard and have to type on just 
 my MacBook Pro keyboard.  But I don’t have Page Up/Down or Home and End 
 keys.  How does one compensate for this?
 
 Thanks,
 Kevin
 
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Re: un-do

[Michael Babcock]

Hi!

Typically it’s command+shift+Z.

Hope this helps!

> On Dec 3, 2022, at 11:54 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> Several times I have pressed command Z when I meant to press option Z the 
> result is that I un-do the last thing I did. what’s the keyboard command for 
> re-do?
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> Thanks.
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Re: Time Tracking

[Michael Babcock]

I have used a tool called timery , which uses toggl  as the back end, and just 
gives it a lot cleaner of an interface. Available on iOS, and if running a M1 
or M2 Mac available on it as well.

Hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2022, at 9:13 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
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> Any time tracking recommendations for the Mac? I need something for my 
> business where I want to track time for clients, just for personal reference 
> so I know how much time I’m spending on each client.
> 
> At my job we use Toggl but the web interface isn’t the most accessible, 
> though the app isn’t bad.
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> Any other suggestions?
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Re: Can not open or view attachment in a mail on Mac.

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Hi!

This doesn't solve your attachment issue, however hears the Orbit
Writer User Guide that you can browse with heading navigation etc!

https://support.atguys.com/hc/en-us/articles/4417543997460-Orbit-Writer-User-Guide

hth


On 3/31/22, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hello!
> I have requested the Orbit writer and they’ve sent me a pdf in a mail.
> But VOiceOver doesn’t seem to recognize it.
> Or lets say it recognize it but it just says picture and nothing can me done
> with that picture.
> Pressing command y to preview the attachment does not help either.
> I only get no objects are selected from VOiceOver.
> I have tried to manipulating the mouse with the vo commands that I know of
> but no go.
> Its very very frustrating.
> I will check to see if it works on my Iphone.
> /A
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Re: Password generation and security app

[Michael Babcock]

Hi Nancy,

1Password would do this for you and does work on both windows, Mac, as
well as CHrome OS, Android and IOS.



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> Something like one password. However, I want the app to work on both Mac and
> windows environments. Does anyone know of such an app? It also needs to be
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Re: iOS 15 Roll-out Today?

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Typically around 10:00AM PST (1:00 PM Eastern)



On 9/20/21, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> It hasn’t on my end yet, and I heard the same thing as well.
>
>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Dave Carlson 
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>> Did I hear that iOS 15 will. Be pushed out on September 20? Has anyone
>> received the download? I’m in Pacific Time Zone.
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Re: starting on a new mac - help with the set up

[Michael Babcock]

And to add, if you hold command and triple tap the power button in top right 
hand, this will toggle VoiceOver so you don’t have to use the accessibility 
dialog.

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> Hello,
> 
> This should be fairly simple. When you triple tap the power button after the 
> computer is on, an accessibility dialog comes up. This dialog is self 
> speaking. prestap once and it should say "voiceover" I believe pressing space 
> then activates voiceover it might be return though. then you can leave that 
> dialog and start configuring the system with VO. 
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Re: Working in Wordpress with VoiceOver on Mac

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Hi
Though it's a little out of date, here's a comprehensive guide you might
find useful.

The videos I recorded and used in this guide are from a voiceover users
point of view using Safari on the Mac. Hope it helps
https://yourownpay.com/build-website/

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019, 08:21 Christian  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If one is about to create a homepage using VoiceOver, how are your
> experiences, has anyone used Wordpress successfully with VoiceOver on the
> Mac?
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Changing command, shift, a destination

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Everyone:

Is it possible to make this keystroke referenced in the subject open the 
applications directory with in my home folder, versus the systems applications 
directory?

Recently I’ve started sharing a computer with my wife, and I have been working 
out of my own home directories applications so that my apps are use don’t 
interfere with her work flow.

However, I still find myself pressing this keystroke, and I’m wondering if I 
can remap it to a different folder?

Thank you

Michael

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Re: vpn services

[michael babcock]

Jonathan:
Thanks for all of this information.
Right now I’m using OpenVPN to give me a dedicated IP from my Linode box.
However that’s the only reason I’m using it, not to secure anything but to 
allow IPTables to be locked to one IP no matter if I’m on my home network or 
mobile.
That way the SIP phones I’m using can connect to my PBX system,
But anyone not within the VPN can’t connect because IPTables just makes the 
server appear to be offline when someone is trying to find the server and not 
on the allowed list of IP addresses.
I’m sure there is an easier way to do this.
But for my use case this is working just fine now that it’s all set up!
Now if only twilio and I can get along, though now I’m looking at Plivo
(Now that’s off topic :)


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> Michael, 
> 
> What is your purpose? VPN gets confusing because one can use the technology 
> for stealth purposes or to access services securely when not local.
> 
> If your desire as the original poster was is to access "home" devices while 
> on the road then your  not going to want to use a cloud service. You really 
> want a router or UNIX server that can provide network tunneling that is 
> located on the edge between your home systems and the ISP's network.  
> 
> If you want to set up a web server on the other hand, I would recommend using 
> a cloud service and then either using secure FTP or a VPN service to upload 
> content to the cloud service. I expect this is already part of the package of 
> the cloud provider though Essentially you have to be able to do maintenance 
> and content updates on your server if you only have a few pages you will 
> probably want the cloud provider to do all the maintenance and all you need 
> to do is drop HTML / JS / CSS files in the appropriate places which can be 
> done with SFTP or Kerberos enabled FTP. 
> 
> Now, if you are touring around coffee shops and need to get work done this 
> would be the third use of VPN technology. In this case look at tunnel bear or 
> Witopia or any of several other small providers. Essentially they are putting 
> UNIX servers in network data centers and then allowing tunnels from that 
> server back to your computers. On the other end the UNIX server just spews 
> out the data to the regular Internet but it then appears like  you are 
> connected inside the data center. This provides two services:
> 1. All traffic leaving your system is encrypted and just looks like garbage 
> all going to the VPN provider. Second, you can make it look like you are in 
> Germany even when connected to the Internet in Hong Kong.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> . 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 11:12 AM, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Would it be worth rolling an OpenVPN install on a cloud service like Linode?
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 6:38 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Few ways you could do this.
>>> 
>>> My router has Open VPN built in, it’s a Netgear Night Hawk 8500 and it has 
>>> all the certs and everything pre built.  Very easy to set up.  I can then 
>>> either just connect to my home network and send everything else in the 
>>> clear or tunnel everything through the home connection encrypted.  
>>> 
>>> You could also build a server with two NICs and put one on the inside 
>>> network, one on the outside, enable IP forwarding and install Open VPN.  
>>> Advantage here is you can use existing hardware in your collection but more 
>>> setup work on the down side.
>>> 
>>> You could also buy some hardware on eBay used.  Something like an old 
>>> Cisco ASA or Juniper SRX that you would wire up similarly and or use as a 
>>> router replacement.  Since you’re a technical guy and heavy on the systems 
>>> side you might like this option so you start learning and working with 
>>> enterprise level gear on the cheap.
>>> 
>>> Just a ew ideas.
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Scott and anyone else with thoughts on this.
>>>>  
>>>> I’m looking for a VPN service either existing that I can use to connect 
>>>> from my mac book air or iPad / iPhone to my home systems which consist of 
>>>> a couple of mac minis and windows servers 2012R2 and others.
>>>>  
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Twilio Console question re: phone number selection

[Michael Babcock]

Hi all:
Working on a few projects that require me to use Twilio…
OK, so the fact that Twilio integrates with Zapier and the new IP PBX system I 
just built may have a little to do with my  needing to go with them.
And I love there number selection two…

Hears the problem I run into though

When I select a phone number from a search page, e.g.

https://www.twilio.com/console/phone-numbers/search/buy/results?Country=US=number=tt=right%5B%5D=any%5B%5D=any%5B%5D=any%5B%5D=true
 


(You may need an account to see the above page).
I select a number that I want in the table, and to the far right of it is 
a"buy" link.

When I select this link, voiceover doesn't appear to do anything, however I 
noticed that there's a confirmation dialog box voiceover seas towards the 
bottom of the page.

Most of the time, when I inquire dialogs like these, I can interact with them 
and then select the desired auction.

However using Safari or chrome, I can't seem to access the option to allow me 
to buy the phone number.

My next step is to contact  their support team, but I was curious if anyone had 
encountered something like this and if they have any suggestions I might try?

Hoping all are doing well.
best.
michael
PS, or do you know of a Sip based provider that will allow me to both send and 
receive SMS messages?

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Re: Accessibility of constant contact

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Donna:
Thanks for your message, and as I wrote Laura  off list, I’ve not used constant 
contact however have had good experiences with Convertkit.
I used AWebber. For 4 years and loved them, until they released campaigns.
When campaigns was in beta, voiceover users could not independently create 
workflows because an accessible way of dragging and dropping didn’t work at the 
time (March 2016).
Has this changed?
I ask because I currently am working on a Convertkit with your eyes closed 
course:
http://yourownpay.thinkific.com/courses/convertkit-with-voiceover
And understand that Convertkit isn’t right for everyone.
I would love to suggest AWeber, and possibly consider creating a second course 
based around AWeber if this feature has ben improved.
If you don’t use campaigns I would love to know if you have noticed any 
accessibility improvements in the past year as it’s ben about that long since 
last I worked with AWeber.
If you would rather mail me off list:
mich...@yourownpay.com
Is my best email address…
best.
Michael

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> Hi Laura,
> 
> I haven't worked with Constant Contact, but I have had very good experiences 
> with AWebber.  You might want to take a look at them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 26, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Laura Bratton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Has anyone used constant contact to send emails out to a group? Is it 
>> accessible?
>> 
>> I need to create an email distribution list for work so trying to find 
>> something that is accessible.
>> Thank you for any help,
>> Laura
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Re: Free/Cheap Audio Editor that Works with VO?

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I’ll second the Amadeus Pro, option, 
Only because it’s what I’ve used mostly. However hears a site 
http://audio.pizza 
That you can check out that has guides on both programs mentioned.

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> Amadeus Pro,

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Re: Looking for a good SIP client for the iPhone that is accessible

[michael babcock]

I’ll second this, Bria is well worth the investment.
> On Apr 22, 2017, at 8:22 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Bria soft phone is the one I use.  Completely accessible, well maintained and 
> I haven’t found any accessibility problems.
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 8:47 AM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey everybody,
>> 
>> Well, the subject line pretty much says what I am looking for.  I have 
>> several contacts who have been encouraging me to use their Sip address to 
>> reach them.  Since I have never done this, I don’t know which client works 
>> best and if I need to sign up for a Sip service.  I sometimes use VoipBuster 
>> to make international calls, and they do have Sip capabilities, or so it 
>> seems.
>> 
>> Thanks for any advice you can give.
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: wordpress VoiceOver content management solutions

[michael babcock]

Hey Chuck:
I just saw this.
A blind user can manage his own wordpress site, and I have a course that is 
being re done as we email, (some how I ended up creating 3 courses at the same 
time ;) funny how that happened)
Send me a message off list, or connect with me via the information in my 
signature; I don’t want to share the link on list if you want to learn more, 
however next week on my podcast people are going to get information about 
switching web hosts from shared to a VPS (Virtual Private Server) and why one 
may want to do this.
This is in follow-up to my podcast I recorded 
The Your Own Pay Podcast: Self Hosted, Or wordpress.com -
Nov 23, 2015
(Wow how quality has improved ;)
)

http://yourownpay.libsyn.com/self-hosted-or-wordpresscom-your-own-pay-podcast 

Anyways my email is below and some additional resources to help you get started 
 on your own
mich...@yourownpay.com 
It depends on how much time you want to put into your website, and how much you 
want to outsource, just like with any task.
I’ve also heard good things about the book Jeff wrote called Word press for bad 
eyes:

http://wpforbadeyes.com/ 
The website "Make WordPress Accessible – Equal Access For All” may be 
 worth a read:
> https://make.wordpress.org/accessibility/On Apr 21, 2017, at 10:49 AM, CHUCK 
> REICH
And the other site that comes to mind is:
"A Blind Developer's Perspective on WordPress & Accessibility …”
with Amanda Rush on August 06th, 2015 

https://officehours.fm/podcast/71-2/ 
"WordPress Accessibility: Create a website, blog or app | Paths to …”
http://www.perkinselearning.org/technology/posts/wordpress-accessibility-create-website-blog-or-app
 

Hmmm, looks like a wordpress accessibility PDF article is in play ;)

> EL  wrote:
> 
> Chuck

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Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us

[Michael Babcock, Host of the Your Own Pay Podcast]

Cara:
I’ve forwarded this message on to zoom.
supp...@zoom.us 
This is in hopes that they reply and we can find a positive resolution to the 
issues users are facing with it.
Everyone’s use case scenario is different, for example I schedule my meetings 
and webinars on my account page in Safari. 
(Sign into the account you want to schedule a meeting in and go to:
https://zoom.us/meeting/schedule 
)
The way to get around the date issue on this page is to press your voiceover 
keys plus Space Key on the date, use table navigation to jump to the table, 
select the date within the table, , interact with the sell, press vo+Space, and 
then type in the time in the edit box, 
NOTE: after you select the date, (available dates are links, unavailable dates 
are just numbers), voiceover automatically stops interacting with the table. 
Focus for me is then brought back to the top of the page, so I typed find for 
the number of the day I selected, which jumps focus back to the date. I press 
tab and you can then select the time by typing it into the edit box.
E.G. 10:24
When you press tab again your asked to select"a.m., or p.m.", if you press VO 
Left once, you'll hear either option selected, and this is a link. Selecting 
this link will place voiceover in a edit box, press voiceover right arrow to 
select which option you would like the meeting to be scheduled for.
The timezone selection is the same way FYI.
I don't know if you can view your meetings from the zoom application on either 
Mac OS or iOS, I live out of Google calendar so my links I need to attend our 
either in the event or there in my email notification that comes 10 minutes 
before the time I need to be there.
However, I have seen the focus issues with the chat window, most especially in 
a presentation I gave yesterday showing other users how to use zoom.
Additionally I've also seen at focus issues in the members list, for example 
voiceover doesn't seem to keep focused on the list of members and if you're 
trying to quickly switch between members list and chat Focus tends to become 
lost. I don't know how to explain it…

I've also explained how individuals viewing a webinar or attending a meeting 
cannot interact with the pole feature at least on the Mac, and hosts on the Mac 
cannot either interact with the pole or read the results live in a previous 
communication with zoom, so am hopeful that they look into this.

I do not know how accessible the reports are, I'll be testing those over the 
next couple of weeks as I'm hosting some webinars for a few clients.
Additionally, as noted in this message I forwarded, I also have found pressing 
the broadcast button when a webinar is in test only mode, seems to be 
impossible with voiceover on the Mac. How I've gotten around this is to set my 
iPhone as a alternative host, and then press the broadcast button from it.
Now I will say as outlined in this video I recorded it on YouTube:Accessible 
webinar software for the blind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXzEYfG8NM 


That accessibility has changed from one update to another, so be sure that you 
are running the latest update of zoom just to verify that some of the mentioned 
things you brought up are not remedied.
"Good Day:


As I know it’s likely your team doesn’t monitor forms like the one below, I 
thought I should send this to you and give it to your team for feedback.
I’ve seen this type of behavior when trying to use the “broadcast”button on the 
Mac with zoom for webinars, as Voiceover doesn’t ever allow me to press it.
I suggest someone form your team subscribe to this form and to
http://applevis.com/ 
To acquire feedback from the users of your platform who are using it on a daily 
bases.
Hoping this finds you all well.
Best.
Michael
"
Hears a page to bring up when providing feedback, they want to do good however 
lets help them with providing feedback:
"
Commitment
Zoom is committed to ensuring universal access to our products and services, so 
that all meeting hosts and participants can have the best experience possible. 
Zoom's accessibility features enable users with disabilities to schedule, 
attend, and participate in Zoom meetings and webinars, view recordings, and 
access administrative features across our supported devices.
“
http://zoom.us/accessibility 
> 

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Karen and All,
> 
> I have also been using Zoom with a corporate account pretty much every day 
> for about a year now but unlike everyone else posting here so far, I have 
> encountered a number of really bothersome accessibility issues.
> 
> So I am wondering if you or someone else in this thread may be able to tell 
> me what the heck I am doing wrong! lol!
> 
> Firstly, in scheduling a meeting on the Mac, choosing a date causes VO to get 
> 

Re: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"

[michael babcock]

And hears the podcast done on this:
Meet the Weather Gods of Fire, Ice, Water, Air & Moon | AppleVis
Join with Thomas Domville (AnonyMouse) as he explores and meets the Gods: Fire, 
Ice, Water, Air & Moon delivering you the Weather as you have never experienced 
it before.

https://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/meet-weather-gods-fire-ice-water-air-moon
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 2:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Sounds like mythology has gone mainstream. Its about time too. The gods of 
> Fire, Ice, Water, Air & Moon. More like it!  $2.99 in the US of A.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 3/24/2017 1:42 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Weather gods?
>> 
>> What ever happened to just going outside and seeingif you get wet or blown 
>> over in the wind.
>> 
>> I find if I go outside and there is stuff falling from the sky I know I 
>> should take the umbrella
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>> Sent: Saturday, 25 March 2017 9:18 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Experience the weather in a whole new way with "Weather Gods"
>> 
>> Evening everyone.
>> 
>> I would like to share with you an app that lets you experience the weather 
>> in a whole new way. The app is called "Weather Gods" and does a lot more 
>> than display the weather. Since there might be too much to discuss here, you 
>> can find out more at www.weathergodsapp.com and, if you like the idea, pay 
>> £2.99 in the UK app store for it. So it's "Weather Gods", without the quotes 
>> but with spaces. Enjoy!
>> 
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If you see "1Password failed to connect to 1Password mini" when trying to open 1Password - 1Password Support

[Michael Babcock]

I wanted to share this article because of an error I got a few moments ago.


> 
> https://support.1password.com/error-connect-to-mini/ 
> 
> 
> If you see "1Password failed to connect to 1Password mini" when trying to 
> open 1Password
> February 18, 2017 7:55 PM EST:
> Thanks everyone for your patience. We’ve identified and fixed the “1Password 
> failed to connect to 1Password mini” issue in 1Password for Mac version 
> 6.5.5, which was just released. You can download and install the new version 
>  directly from our website.
> 
> If the issue still doesn’t go away, click Quit in the 1Password mini prompt, 
> then open Finder, click Applications, and move 1Password to the Trash. Now 
> download and install the latest version from the website again and all should 
> be well.
> 
> Please reach out  if you’re still having issues. Again, we are 
> very sorry for the trouble this caused.
> 
> February 18, 2017 5:30 PM EST:
> We’re currently investigating an issue preventing some users from opening 
> 1Password for Mac, receiving a “1Password failed to connect to 1Password 
> mini” error. Our team is working on it and we will provide an update as soon 
> as possible. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused.
> 



best.
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Re: 1Password for Mac

[michael babcock]

I use 1 password family, so for me it’s having the ability to quickly share 
login information with my wife and the kids. Also the fact it is cross 
browser/platform, so when I’m in chrome for OS X or chrome on Win 10 I don’t 
have to worry about remember passwords. Also of course it’s nice to have 
passwords on anything I pick up that’s connected to the internet… Also one 
example is when clients need to share information with me with there passwords…
And I don’t think apple needs all my passwords anyways, they already have 
enough of my information. Last feature, generating passwords… 
> On Feb 17, 2017, at 7:23 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So what’s the point of one password if the keychain functionality works so 
> well?  I have both but never found one password as easy to use as keychain.  
> What are your thoughts?
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 1:48 AM, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wonderful thanks! That’s one thing I’ll say about 1password aside from the 
>> very useful tool, they are very responsive on twitter at least :) admittedly 
>> I’ve not emailed there support team, but that being said I haven’t had to do 
>> so…
>> Once again, thanks loads.
>>> On Feb 16, 2017, at 10:07 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You bet. Here is the link.
>>> 
>>> <https://support.1password.com/create-multi-page-login/>
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 2/16/2017 10:03 PM, michael babcock wrote:
>>>> E.T.:
>>>> Could you send that article?
>>>> I’ve had this issue with capital one, and would love to see how 1 password 
>>>> handles these type of logins.
>>>>> On Feb 16, 2017, at 6:45 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>> Was given a lead to an article by the 1Password team and I followed it to 
>>>>> create a new login that handles multiple pages. Works way better now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/16/2017 12:36 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've used 1password for a couple of years, and I'm loving it.  However, 
>>>>>> when it comes to banking, I don't use it, nor can I figure out how I 
>>>>>> might use it since my banks use special electronic keys that generate 
>>>>>> one time codes to sign in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>> On 16 Feb 2017, at 19:33, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Some sites such as banking sites, have you sign in with user ID and 
>>>>>>> password on separate pages. This requires creating entries for each. 
>>>>>>> What I have not worked out on the Mac is how to navigate these entries 
>>>>>>> so I can select the one I need. Has anyone made this work?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: 1Password for Mac

[michael babcock]

Wonderful thanks! That’s one thing I’ll say about 1password aside from the very 
useful tool, they are very responsive on twitter at least :) admittedly I’ve 
not emailed there support team, but that being said I haven’t had to do so…
Once again, thanks loads.
> On Feb 16, 2017, at 10:07 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   You bet. Here is the link.
> 
> <https://support.1password.com/create-multi-page-login/>
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 2/16/2017 10:03 PM, michael babcock wrote:
>> E.T.:
>> Could you send that article?
>> I’ve had this issue with capital one, and would love to see how 1 password 
>> handles these type of logins.
>>> On Feb 16, 2017, at 6:45 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew,
>>>  Was given a lead to an article by the 1Password team and I followed it to 
>>> create a new login that handles multiple pages. Works way better now.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 2/16/2017 12:36 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I've used 1password for a couple of years, and I'm loving it.  However, 
>>>> when it comes to banking, I don't use it, nor can I figure out how I might 
>>>> use it since my banks use special electronic keys that generate one time 
>>>> codes to sign in.
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
>>>>> On 16 Feb 2017, at 19:33, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some sites such as banking sites, have you sign in with user ID and 
>>>>> password on separate pages. This requires creating entries for each. What 
>>>>> I have not worked out on the Mac is how to navigate these entries so I 
>>>>> can select the one I need. Has anyone made this work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
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Re: 1Password for Mac

[michael babcock]

E.T.:
Could you send that article?
I’ve had this issue with capital one, and would love to see how 1 password 
handles these type of logins.
> On Feb 16, 2017, at 6:45 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
>   Was given a lead to an article by the 1Password team and I followed it to 
> create a new login that handles multiple pages. Works way better now.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 2/16/2017 12:36 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've used 1password for a couple of years, and I'm loving it.  However, when 
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>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 16 Feb 2017, at 19:33, E.T.  wrote:
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>>>  Some sites such as banking sites, have you sign in with user ID and 
>>> password on separate pages. This requires creating entries for each. What I 
>>> have not worked out on the Mac is how to navigate these entries so I can 
>>> select the one I need. Has anyone made this work?
>>> 
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Re: Carrier unlimited data war continues

[michael babcock]

 Whatever carrier you are with if it’s one of the major 4.

> On Feb 13, 2017, at 5:15 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
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> Well, today Verizon offers unlimited data.  Of course there are some caveats 
> read more about it here
> http://www.redmondpie.com/verizon-launches-new-unlimited-data-plan-here-are-the-details/
> This past weekend sprint jumped on the unlimited data band wagon, but theres 
> doubles after a year, and it has to be a new customer.  T-mobile has theres, 
> and taxes are already included.  Plus t-mobile removed the HD limitation on 
> there unlimited data plan. So whatever carrier you are with, you have some 
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Re: Extremely dissatisfied with the developers of tweetbot in regards to accessibility improvement promises on mac

[michael babcock]

Hmmm, going to buy and leave a review accordingly. And thanks for letting me 
know tweetbot on IOS worked :) this is promising and discouraging at the same 
time. Leverage the Applevis community two. 
> On Feb 9, 2017, at 5:52 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
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> hmmm.
> it sounds to me like you need to start a review campaign on the appstore 
> review link. get all your friends and their friends, etc to write a review 
> pointing out these difficulties.  If you start getting enough folks to do 
> this and then hound them once a week with all the reviews, they just might 
> start to listen. Dealing with all those reviews (and having them publicly 
> visible will start to impact their bottom line.
> 
> now, I know this may seem like a lot of work, but it can work. These 
> developers need to know that we, as a community, can exercise a lot of buying 
> power (to the tune of slightly more than $5 billion last year alone). Thats 
> the buying power of the blind, their families, friends and associates. When 
> you add it up, it becomes nontrivial in a very big hurry.
> 
> When education fails to garner their attention (and good will), then brute 
> force attacks on their ability to earn money will certainly get their 
> attention. It's a battle straggly brought to you by Tsung Tsu and it does 
> work. just something to think about.
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Re: new learner

[michael babcock]

Finally, macfortheblind.com  has some wonderful 
getting started guides.
> On Jan 7, 2017, at 1:21 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Apple has its own accessibility website at www.apple.com/accessibility 
> 
> you will see some links there in particular you might be interested in the 
> ones referring to voiceover.
> 
> There is also an excellent website called applevis 
> www.applevis.com 
> where you can browse and search for information on the use of Voiceover and 
> mac computers including iOS devices.  They have loads of files available, 
> discussion forums and wonderfully informative podcasts.
> 
> Also, do not forget that on your mac in Voiceover utility itself - where you 
> adjust various settings for voiceover - each category has a help link at the 
> end which you can activate and read about the various functions and shortcut 
> keys that Voiceover has.  to activate Voiceover utility, press vo+f8 
> combination
> 
> 
> A very useful facility on your mac is keyboard help.  You activate it by 
> pressing vo+k combination.  Once active you can press key combinations and 
> hear what they do.  Pressing escape will take you out of the keyboard 
> learning mode.
> 
> This list has also got a very useful archive page.  If I’m not mistaken, its 
> URL is at the bottom of each message.  You can search for various topics and 
> discussions related to them.  On the archive page, you can use control+p and 
> control+n to move quickly from previous to next message in a thread of 
> messages.
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> 
> Good luck
> 
> Andrew
>> On 7 Jan 2017, at 07:48, masood B > > wrote:
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>> hi. I just bought a MacBook pro and I don't know how to use it. I'm totally 
>> blind and I use voice over. will some one be able to give me some basic 
>> instructions please or give me some resources? thanks
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Re: bookshare

[Michael Babcock]

thanks for that, 
I just wish i had more reliable navigation, and it could be that i’m just not 
use to navigating books in iBooks as i think this is the first or second time 
i’ve used iBooks on the mac; the iPhone on the other hand is very user friendly.
 I am sure i’ll grow to love Bookshare and iBooks once i get use to this 
workflow; just as i said in the OP i was curious if others had different/better 
workflows!
hope all are doing well.

Best
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Host of the Your Own Pay Podcast


> On Dec 3, 2016, at 8:20 PM, Maria Chapman <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi.
> 
> I’m not a book share member but it sounds like a logical way to read an ePub 
> file.  I also think text express will read epub files.   
>> On 4 Dec. 2016, at 3:12 pm, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com 
>> <mailto:mich...@yourownpay.com>> wrote:
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>> good day:
>> This is for Bookshare members.
>> I could be doing it the most efficiently, however figured out that at times 
>> i have been missing a tool or service that can simplify my workflow. It’s 
>> time i bite my pride and acknowledge  that others know more then me in most 
>> situations ;)
>> 
>> right now i’m finding the book i want, selecting the EPub file format and 
>> downloading the book. Then opening the book in iBooks on the mac. 
>> 
>> This works, for the most part, but if others are doing things differently i 
>> would love to learn what and why…
>> NOTE: not looking for voice dream reader on the iPhone; this is just for 
>> reading BS on my mac…
>> (BS is BookShare, not that other meaning)
>> 
>> Best
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>> Host of the Your Own Pay Podcast
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bookshare

[Michael Babcock]

good day:
This is for Bookshare members.
I could be doing it the most efficiently, however figured out that at times i 
have been missing a tool or service that can simplify my workflow. It’s time i 
bite my pride and acknowledge  that others know more then me in most situations 
;)

right now i’m finding the book i want, selecting the EPub file format and 
downloading the book. Then opening the book in iBooks on the mac. 

This works, for the most part, but if others are doing things differently i 
would love to learn what and why…
NOTE: not looking for voice dream reader on the iPhone; this is just for 
reading BS on my mac…
(BS is BookShare, not that other meaning)

Best
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Re: 1Password Accounts

[Michael Babcock]

It's a lower-cost entry-level for someone who's interested in a service like 
this, and I never owned it prior to them offering a subscription-based 
opportunity, so I'm not sure if it worked this way or not in the past, however 
I can add a login item on my phone or the computer and it shows up on both of 
which are as well. My wife and I also have a shared vault, since we have the 
family addition, and anything either one of us add to that vault is instantly 
on all of our devices to
They do offer a trial if I recall right, so it may be worth exploring just to 
see if it's something that you would use the added benefits for as I assume you 
already own the standalone product?

Hope you're doing amazing

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Brandon A. Olivares  
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> I just saw that 1Password now has an option of registering an account with 
> them, which costs. Is there a benefit of doing this?
> 
> Brandon
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Re: No way to jump to a specific location in hours using Amadeus Pro?

[Michael Babcock]

So change the minute count to 390

> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Joshua Tubbs <ori...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Exactly, I know that. The fact I have to jump 50 minutes each time instead of 
> being able to jump directly to an hour is annoying.
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 2:19 PM, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com> wrote:
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>> Command+G
>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:18 AM, Joshua Tubbs <ori...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Is it just me, or can you only jump to just the minutes and seconds of a 
>>> file? I’ve got a seven hour file here and need to cut it down to 6.5 hours, 
>>> and not being able to jump to 6:10:00 for example is really frustrating. Is 
>>> there a way to do something like this?
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Re: No way to jump to a specific location in hours using Amadeus Pro?

[Michael Babcock]

Command+G
> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:18 AM, Joshua Tubbs  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Is it just me, or can you only jump to just the minutes and seconds of a 
> file? I’ve got a seven hour file here and need to cut it down to 6.5 hours, 
> and not being able to jump to 6:10:00 for example is really frustrating. Is 
> there a way to do something like this?
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Re: editing a video

[Michael Babcock]

hears a video that has helped me:
OS X: Basic Editing with iMovie for VoiceOver Users
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gInthWUriLM 

hope it helps you and the blinkychicks would love your comments.

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Actually, I use Screenflow to do that now.  Cost me $99.99 though and I 
> assume you don’t feel like paying that much.  For my part, I’d like the 
> answer to this question myself as I think it would be good to know how to do 
> this with the latest version of iMovie just in case.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 1:43 PM, jean parker > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All:
>> 
>> I have two mp4 videos that I want to edit. I want to extract a clip from the 
>> videos and save them as  separate files. I opened imovie 9 but it is unclear 
>> to me as to how to proceed. Could someone walk me through the process, 
>> off-list is also fine so as not to clutter the list.
>> 
>> As always, many thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
>> Senior Research Fellow
>> Trans4m Center For Integral Development
>> Geneva, Switzerland
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Re: Skype Call Recorder

[Michael Babcock]

Yes go download the demo from the website given in my previous message and make 
sure it works well for your requirements.
best
michael

> On Nov 20, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sadly I think you may be correct here. Certainly what I have has no tags or 
> help messages when hitting VO-shift-h on the unlabeled controls. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:57 PM, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t think “Skype call recorder” from the app store is accessible. . (i 
>> could be wrong)  ow much was it? I remember having to go threw the process 
>> of getting a refund because i thought it was what i wanted
>> You want:
>> Call Recorder for Skype - The Skype Audio/Video HD Call Recording …
>> http://www.ecamm.com/mac/callrecorder/ 
>> <http://www.ecamm.com/mac/callrecorder/>
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't remember the order of those buttons, but you got the right thing. 
>>> Do a VO+Shift+H on the buttons to see what they are. There are help tags 
>>> included. I'd tell them to ya, but I'm not by the mac right this sec where 
>>> I can look. Sorry about that.
>>> ---
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>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
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>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Jenine Stanley" 
>>> <dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 2:07 PM
>>> Subject: Skype Call Recorder
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I bought Call Recorder for Skype from the Mac App store and have a question 
>>> for anyone using it.
>>> 
>>> When I bring it up along with Skype, there are 2 unlabeled buttons and an 
>>> unlabeled checkbox. It says I have no recordings even if I do interact with 
>>> the buttons and press them or check the checkbox. What am I doing 
>>> wrong?Thanks. Also, I’m hoping the app store version is the one I want. 
>>> Looking into the FaceTime version as well.
>>> Jenine Stanley
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>>> 
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Re: Skype Call Recorder

[michael babcock]

I don’t think “Skype call recorder” from the app store is accessible. . (i 
could be wrong)  ow much was it? I remember having to go threw the process of 
getting a refund because i thought it was what i wanted
You want:
Call Recorder for Skype - The Skype Audio/Video HD Call Recording …
http://www.ecamm.com/mac/callrecorder/ 

> On Nov 20, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't remember the order of those buttons, but you got the right thing. Do 
> a VO+Shift+H on the buttons to see what they are. There are help tags 
> included. I'd tell them to ya, but I'm not by the mac right this sec where I 
> can look. Sorry about that.
> ---
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> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> i...@gillandmarketing.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "Jenine Stanley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 2:07 PM
> Subject: Skype Call Recorder
> 
> 
> I bought Call Recorder for Skype from the Mac App store and have a question 
> for anyone using it.
> 
> When I bring it up along with Skype, there are 2 unlabeled buttons and an 
> unlabeled checkbox. It says I have no recordings even if I do interact with 
> the buttons and press them or check the checkbox. What am I doing 
> wrong?Thanks. Also, I’m hoping the app store version is the one I want. 
> Looking into the FaceTime version as well.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[Michael Babcock]

Parden, Amadeus is just for audio editing; i personally use Libsyn to host the 
files and generate any xml files i need for my podcasts.
(i’ll admit i’m in love with Libsyn’s stats)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Does Amadeus create the podcast xml file? I found that creating the audio 
> file was only half the job. Creating a valid podcast xml file was the other 
> half. This was a couple of years ago but I was surprised that there didn't 
> seem to be any software for generating that xml file.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/17/2016 06:31 PM, michael babcock wrote:
>> I use Amadeus Lite and others use Amadeus PRO.
>> http://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/ 
>> <http://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/>
>> hope this helps
>> (note, i can also take care of the technical podcast requirements, e.g. 
>> audio editing and establishing your podcast; email:
>> mich...@yourownpay.com <mailto:mich...@yourownpay.com>
>> for more information)
>> best.
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesin...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:solsticesin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, all.
>>> 
>>> A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. 
>>> I’m using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out 
>>> there for this purpose. Can someone please advise?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Shannon
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Re: Podcasting on the Mac?

[michael babcock]

I use Amadeus Lite and others use Amadeus PRO.
http://mosen.org/become-an-amadeus-pro-maestro/ 

hope this helps
(note, i can also take care of the technical podcast requirements, e.g. audio 
editing and establishing your podcast; email:
mich...@yourownpay.com 
for more information)
best.

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Shannon Dyer  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> A site I’m affiliated with is tossing around the idea of doing a podcast. I’m 
> using a macbook pro, and have no idea what accessible software is out there 
> for this purpose. Can someone please advise?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Shannon
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Creating A Youtube Live Event With Your Eyes Closed

[Michael Babcock]

> So i wanted to pass this on for those of you who may want to know how to 
> create a live event with your eyes closed using voiceover on OSX.
> I love YT live events, as i can quickly host a webinar and put the webinar 
> any place i want it.
> Hoping this podcast helps someone.
> 
> In this episode of the Your Own Pay podcast, i walk you threw the process of 
> creating a live event on youtube 
> <http://el2.convertkit-mail.com/c/k0uwd3m7nf6hxd4q/3ydpyg/aHR0cDovL3lvdXJvd25wYXkubGlic3luLmNvbS9jcmVhdGluZy15b3V0dWJlLWxpdmUtZXZlbnRzLXdpdGgteW91ci1leWVzLWNsb3NlZA==>.
>  If You have any questions about the process of creating live events with 
> your eyes closed, don’t hesitate to reach out via email or twitter:
> 
> @payown
> 
> and i’ll be happy to answer your questions.
> 
> This is simply but a quick overview of how to create a live event, and then 
> how to get into the hangout window so you can start your broadcast. I do show 
> you how to start the broadcast and how to conclude the broadcast as well, 
> however I don't go in depth with explaining all of the features of the actual 
> hang out window itself. If this is content you like more information about, 
> for example how you can share your screen with viewers and other aspects of 
> the live event, reach out to me and let's chat more.
> 
> Link:
> http://yourownpay.libsyn.com/creating-youtube-live-events-with-your-eyes-closed
> 
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Re: Here's an interesting question for all iOS users

[Michael Babcock]

The other aspect of this is when I was living in Alaska, we used  satellite 
Internet which had limitations on the bandwidth. There  was not sell phone 
service, so the only logistical wait to make a backup of your phone would be to 
use a hardwire and back up it to your computer. That's what has gotten me into 
the routine of making weekly back ups through iTunes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, Tim, no offense taken whatsoever. You actually make some incredibly 
> valid points, and you're right. I admit, I didn't even think about those 
> things.
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> - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" <kilbu...@me.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question for all iOS users
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A couple of things to consider.  We often look at the world from our own 
> prospective, and forget that there are numerous other scenarios.
> 
> 1.  Cell signals and Internet access in the US and many other countries is 
> quite common and fairly robust, especially in larger centres.  consider 
> though rural and more remote locales though.  On the 5 hour drive from Fort 
> McMurray to the nearest city, we encounter numerous dead zones.  The towns, 
> if you can call them that, do have Internet, but nothing like the cities. 
> Many of the farmers still need to use dial up or cell data plans to have 
> Internet access, if they can even get a quality cell signal.  There are many 
> countries or areas around the world that have a much different Internet 
> infrastructure than what many of us are accustomed to.
> 
> 2.  Internet data charges vary considerably from country to country making it 
> important to think economically with respect to data use.  Connecting to your 
> computer therefore saves both data usage and money when transferring between 
> devices.  Yes, there are WiFi solutions of transferring between devices, but 
> they tend to be less reliable than the USB wired solutions at this point.
> 
> 3.  Transferring large files like HD movies is considerably faster through 
> USB than it is over the air, so time considerations are also a factor.
> 
> I'm mostly just saying that we need to consider outside our own bubble, the 
> world is a different beast.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 7, 2016, at 20:46, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Not really, the cloud design at Apple is quite sound.
> 
> The only time I use the backup feature and hard wire is for an encrypted 
> backup if I’m going to erase the phone which I haven’t had to do for years. 
> Also the first time configuration for enabling WiFi sync.  Other than that 
> absolutely 100% cloud based.
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 6:22 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What is a cloud but vapor anyway? Given the right conditions, that can 
>> translate to Poof!
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 11/7/2016 3:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> Again, I know there are those times like you say, an incrypted backup,
>>> etc. when USB would be necessary. I wasn't saying throw the baby totally
>>> out with the bathwater. I more just meant is it something where most
>>> things, you really don't need to plug it in via USB anymore.
>>> ---
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  *From:* michael babcock <mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>
>>>  *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>  *Sent:* Monday, November 07, 2016 6:14 PM
>>>  *Subject:* Re: Here's an interesting question for all iOS users
>>> 
>>>  Secure encrypted backups
>>>  e.g. if you don’t want to have to enter your passwords into apps again.
>>>  correct me if i’m wrong, however iCloud backups aren’t keeping all
>>>  passwords where as a local backup can.
>>>  also, what happens if iCloud was hacked, or unavailable, or is
>>>  something apple wanted to shut down.
>>>  :)
>>>  I personally keep lo

Re: Question about YoruFukurou

[Michael Babcock]

I’ve never had it do this but are you using
Growl notifications?
If so, go to prefs, then Notifications, then at bottom of the window you will 
see "Account Notification…” select this then uncheck the checkbox "Enable Growl 
notification checked”
hth

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Any time that I receive either a mention or a DM, I not only hear the sound, 
> but my default text to speech voice, not to be confused with voiceover 
> speech, is speaking the incoming mention or DM automatically. I love it 
> giving me the audio sound notification, but is there a way I can somehow in 
> the app preferences of YoruFukurou set it so it won't read those messages 
> automatically? I'd like to have it where I only get the sounder, but nothing 
> more until I'm ready to command+Tab over there and manually look.
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Re: Here's an interesting question for all iOS users

[michael babcock]

Secure encrypted backups
e.g. if you don’t want to have to enter your passwords into apps again.
correct me if i’m wrong, however iCloud backups aren’t keeping all passwords 
where as a local backup can.
also, what happens if iCloud was hacked, or unavailable, or is something apple 
wanted to shut down.
:)
I personally keep local copies  of my backups just in case.
once per week.
hth

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Let me start by saying two things:
>  
> 1. I realize entirely that my question is very subjective.
>  
> 2. I further understand that there really is no right or wrong answer to 
> this. I'm asking more just out of curiosity.
>  
> So, here tgos.
>  
> So... now adays with so much stuff regarding Apple happening in the cloud, I 
> often ask myself: is there really much reason now adays to sync your iOS 
> device with ITunes on the mac? How many of you really don't connect your 
> phone to the mac unless it's absolutely necessary?
>  
> I mean, think about it like this. You get a wallblock charger with all new 
> iPhones, (key word, new,) as well as iPads. OK, for iPods, I could see it, as 
> I don't think, unless things have changed which is highly probabal, they came 
> with the apple block transformer. But either way, there really isn't much 
> need anymore with Apple Music to sync music across your device, as music can 
> automatically come down to your device anyway over the ICloud Music library, 
> and even if you don't! have Apple Music, you still have the ICloud music 
> library, so if it's something where you rip a CD we'll just say, it would 
> still upload it to your library, provided you have things set correctly, 
> thereby making it appear on your iOS device.
>  
> You really don't need to use ITunes to sync photos and videos anymore, as you 
> have the iCloud photo library. All purchased and rented movies as well as TV 
> shows are in the cloud, same goes with books from IBooks.
>  
> You can do iOS updates usually over the air, (OTA,) so there really isn't a 
> need to do them from ITunes.
>  
> OK, I get that there are those few instances like putting the device into DFU 
> mode and installing betas, or downgrading from betas. I also get that 
> sometimes, you may want to download the whole iOS OS and restore. I also get 
> you may want to make occasional backups locally to ITunes. But even that! you 
> can do ICloud backups. I mean, pretty much everything is going to the cloud.
>  
> You even now can set it so that if you download an app or song/album from the 
> ITunes store on the mac, it'll automatically download to your device 
> seemlessly.
>  
> I won't go into the details, but a friend of mine is having an issue where 
> things are downloading to his device automatically that he didn't suspect 
> would automatically download. Through talking to him, it's just kind a got me 
> thinking a bit on a totally unrelated note how necessary this really is. I 
> mean, for the most part, do you really have to use USB aside from those very 
> rare occasions, or would I be doing myself a favor to free up that USB port 
> for something more valuable like a flash drive, or even better, maybe my 
> braille display, etc.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Easy iPhone wireless charging hack

[michael babcock]

as it’s not ethical to just send a link to a list without information, let me 
copy and paste the article below for your reference.
Tired of waiting for Apple to add wireless charging to the iPhone? Here's how 
you can do it yourself, no screwdrivers or soldering irons required.
Here's how you can add wireless charging to your iPhone, quickly, cheaply, and 
easily, and without risking your warranty.
Here's what you need:
• A wireless charging receiver card for your iPhone. A quick search of 
somewhere like Amazon will turn up a number of solutions, such as 
BEZALEL I6 Qi wireless charger receiver patch module
http://amzn.to/2fS5XPY 
(price at publication is $16.25). 
• A Qi-compatible charger. Any of the Ones listed here will work fine:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/wireless-chargers-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s6-galaxy-s6-edge/
 

, but there are many more you can choose from out there. 
• A non-metallic flexible case or cover no thicker than 5mm (only required if 
the receiver coil you've chosen doesn't come with a case). Apple's own silicone 
cases work well (although they are expensive), as do the cheapo versions you 
can pick up from eBay or Amazon. 
Fitting the charging coil is easy. Just pop the wireless charging card into 
your iPhone's connector, fold it over the back, and pop it into a case and 
you're done.
You do lose the port on your phone (unless you're willing to disconnect the 
card) but if all you use it for is charging, then this won't matter much.
With a compatible in-car charger (such as this one:
http://amzn.to/2eDFUKC 
) you can continue to charge your iPhone when on the move. 
In my experience, these wireless charging systems work very well, and are far 
more convenient than having to plug a cable into the handset every time. The 
only time it isn't is when you want to use your iPhone while it's charging, 
then a cable is easier.



> On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I'd be careful with this. We really don't know who the source of this msg was 
> from. All it says is, Easy iPhone, so yeah.
> 
> I'd be very very careful.
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> - Original Message - From: "-" 
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> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:30 PM
> Subject: Easy iPhone wireless charging hack
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.zdnet.com/article/easy-iphone-wireless-charging-hack/#ftag=RSSbaffb68
>> 
>> XB
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Re: Microphone Input Volume Changing

[Michael Babcock]

Thanks, i’ve changed   it and set the volume to 71% my preferred recording 
volume :)

> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Brandon A. Olivares <thepianist2...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I came up with a very hackish solution, but it works for me for now.
> 
> This script will set the input volume to 100, every second, and repeat until 
> you exit the script:
> 
> osascript -e repeat -e "set volume input volume 100" -e 'delay 1' -e 'end 
> repeat’
> 
> You can run this in terminal, or do what I did, and wrap it in a shell 
> executable.
> 
> Tested, and it works.
> 
> Brandon
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:58 PM, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kinda glad to know that that checkbox doesn’t make a difference, Kinda in 
>> the fact that now i don’t have to test it, but not glad in the fact that the 
>> issue didn’t get fixed.
>> Your welcome for the link!
>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Brandon A. Olivares <thepianist2...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:thepianist2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I tried unchecking that checkbox, and it is still happening. Thanks for the 
>>> link. :)
>>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com 
>>>> <mailto:mich...@yourownpay.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder if the checkbox directly to the right of the slider "Use ambient 
>>>> noise reduction checked” has anything to do with it.
>>>> I have not experimented with this but just saw it as i was exploring, see 
>>>> i thought i was going crazy and was the only one with this issue. Then i 
>>>> found this article:
>>>> The mystery of OS X's haunted input volume slider - Six Colors
>>>> https://sixcolors.com/post/2016/05/the-mystery-of-os-xs-haunted-input-volume-slider/
>>>>  
>>>> <https://sixcolors.com/post/2016/05/the-mystery-of-os-xs-haunted-input-volume-slider/>
>>>> after i red your posting this morning.
>>>> If you do end up figuring it out, please let us know and i’ll do the same.
>>>> best.
>>>> michael
>>>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>>>>> <thepianist2...@gmail.com <mailto:thepianist2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where would I find this? I know in Skype there’s an option like that, but 
>>>>> I’m not usually using Skype for these calls.
>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That sounds like "automatic gain control", Or AGC.
>>>>>> I don't remember there being an auto gain control switch in the sound 
>>>>>> settings, but somewhere in the chain there's automatic gain control, be 
>>>>>> it in your particular apps settings, or in the system sounds panel. Sent 
>>>>>> from my IPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>>>>>>> <thepianist2...@gmail.com <mailto:thepianist2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When I use my microphone for online meetings, I notice that the volume 
>>>>>>> will often adjust itself. Unfortunately this affects how I sound to 
>>>>>>> others, as I’ll go from a normal volume, to very faint. I have to go 
>>>>>>> into System Preferences / Sound and turn the input volume back up.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This happens both with the built-in microphone, as well as my USB 
>>>>>>> microphone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How can I stop this from happening? It is incredibly annoying.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Brandon
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Re: Microphone Input Volume Changing

[michael babcock]

Kinda glad to know that that checkbox doesn’t make a difference, Kinda in the 
fact that now i don’t have to test it, but not glad in the fact that the issue 
didn’t get fixed.
Your welcome for the link!
> On Nov 6, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Brandon A. Olivares <thepianist2...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I tried unchecking that checkbox, and it is still happening. Thanks for the 
> link. :)
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com 
>> <mailto:mich...@yourownpay.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if the checkbox directly to the right of the slider "Use ambient 
>> noise reduction checked” has anything to do with it.
>> I have not experimented with this but just saw it as i was exploring, see i 
>> thought i was going crazy and was the only one with this issue. Then i found 
>> this article:
>> The mystery of OS X's haunted input volume slider - Six Colors
>> https://sixcolors.com/post/2016/05/the-mystery-of-os-xs-haunted-input-volume-slider/
>>  
>> <https://sixcolors.com/post/2016/05/the-mystery-of-os-xs-haunted-input-volume-slider/>
>> after i red your posting this morning.
>> If you do end up figuring it out, please let us know and i’ll do the same.
>> best.
>> michael
>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Brandon A. Olivares <thepianist2...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:thepianist2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where would I find this? I know in Skype there’s an option like that, but 
>>> I’m not usually using Skype for these calls.
>>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That sounds like "automatic gain control", Or AGC.
>>>> I don't remember there being an auto gain control switch in the sound 
>>>> settings, but somewhere in the chain there's automatic gain control, be it 
>>>> in your particular apps settings, or in the system sounds panel. Sent from 
>>>> my IPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>>>>> <thepianist2...@gmail.com <mailto:thepianist2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I use my microphone for online meetings, I notice that the volume 
>>>>> will often adjust itself. Unfortunately this affects how I sound to 
>>>>> others, as I’ll go from a normal volume, to very faint. I have to go into 
>>>>> System Preferences / Sound and turn the input volume back up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This happens both with the built-in microphone, as well as my USB 
>>>>> microphone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How can I stop this from happening? It is incredibly annoying.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Brandon
>>>>> 
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Re: Microphone Input Volume Changing

[Michael Babcock]

I wonder if the checkbox directly to the right of the slider "Use ambient noise 
reduction checked” has anything to do with it.
I have not experimented with this but just saw it as i was exploring, see i 
thought i was going crazy and was the only one with this issue. Then i found 
this article:
The mystery of OS X's haunted input volume slider - Six Colors
https://sixcolors.com/post/2016/05/the-mystery-of-os-xs-haunted-input-volume-slider/
 

after i red your posting this morning.
If you do end up figuring it out, please let us know and i’ll do the same.
best.
michael
> On Nov 6, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Brandon A. Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> Where would I find this? I know in Skype there’s an option like that, but I’m 
> not usually using Skype for these calls.
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> That sounds like "automatic gain control", Or AGC.
>> I don't remember there being an auto gain control switch in the sound 
>> settings, but somewhere in the chain there's automatic gain control, be it 
>> in your particular apps settings, or in the system sounds panel. Sent from 
>> my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Brandon A. Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> When I use my microphone for online meetings, I notice that the volume will 
>>> often adjust itself. Unfortunately this affects how I sound to others, as 
>>> I’ll go from a normal volume, to very faint. I have to go into System 
>>> Preferences / Sound and turn the input volume back up.
>>> 
>>> This happens both with the built-in microphone, as well as my USB 
>>> microphone.
>>> 
>>> How can I stop this from happening? It is incredibly annoying.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brandon
>>> 
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Re: How To Increase the speed of a youtube video using safari and OS X (Video inside)

[michael babcock]

Kawal:
Donna gave a wonderful idea of something for you to check.
best.

> On Oct 23, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Just one more question Michael.
> 
> How can one do a video if one is totally blind?  I have tried using a camera 
> on an I phone but it has never said that it has my face in view.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 22 Oct 2016, at 19:27, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for your kind words…
>> 
>> I'll try to explain this in more detail!
>> 
>> When I'm recording videos on my Macintosh computer, I use an application I 
>> purchased for US$99 called screen flow. This will allow me to record the 
>> camera from my computer, the screen from my computer, VoiceOver from my 
>> computer, and my voice. I can also record in any combination of the four 
>> mentioned recording abilities. So for example I could record just my screen 
>> and voiceover, or my screen, my voice, and voiceover, or maybe just my voice 
>> and my camera…
>> 
>> Regarding videos on my iPhone, I use the Camera application that comes 
>> natively installed on iOS. I find the camera mode selector, flick  to video, 
>> make sure the proper camera is selected  rear facing or front facing, then 
>> press either one of the volume keys to start recording. Press either one of 
>> the volume keys to stop recording.
>> Let me know if any more clarification is necessary.
>> 
>> Hope you're doing amazing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael.
>>> 
>>> Please explain to me further what you mean re your message below as I don't 
>>> understand.  If need be,  you can write to me off list as you did yesterday.
>>> 
>>> As I said, you were very kind to send me my answers off list.  Also, I 
>>> really liked your podcast as it was rather like another person I know who 
>>> does to the point podcasts.  Yours was straight to the point which was 
>>> brilliant.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again and I look forward to your replies when ever you wish to 
>>> reply, no rush.
>>> 
>>> I did not expect a message from you so again, thank you very very much.
>>> 
>>> Kawal. 
>>>> On 22 Oct 2016, at 03:41, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I personally record all my videos in screen flow ($99 app) on the mac.
>>>> My videos on my phone are done in the camera app.
>>>> and i emailed you off list regarding the Jaws questions.
>>>> best.
>>>> michael
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I liked the video thanks.  I listen to a lot of Youtube when at work to 
>>>>> help me work as it were so how does one pause or set volume up and down 
>>>>> if you are using jaws as I'm always having to tab.  I know it's a Mac 
>>>>> list but I need to use windows at work.  I know that the Mac handles 
>>>>> Youtube stuff just fine after this video.  Also how does one make a video 
>>>>> on an I phone or Mac?  I don't have any editing tools.  I thought that 
>>>>> Apple would have an app already installed on your phone or your I Mac or 
>>>>> Mac computer to handle all this without you having to buy anything 
>>>>> further.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>> On 21 Oct 2016, at 18:14, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In this video i walk you threw the process of increasing the playback 
>>>>>> speed of a video using Safari and Voiceover on the latest version of 
>>>>>> SOX. I hope some of you enjoy this, and look forward to providing more 
>>>>>> information in the future. Check out the description of this video for 
>>>>>> links to anything i referenced in this video, mainly J.R.’s channel if 
>>>>>> you want to learn more about a low vision vlogger.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> changing the speed of a video using youtube and voiceover
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcT7GMEwUMY
>>>>>> hoping your all well.
>>>>>> 
>>

Re: Scheduling a video to be published on youtube with voiceover (Video inside)

[michael babcock]

I use screen flow to record my videos, 
thanks
:)

> On Oct 22, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Say, did you use Screenflow to record this or Quick Time?  Just curious.  
> Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com 
>> <mailto:mich...@yourownpay.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> In this video i just published 2 hours ago, i walk you threw the process of 
>> Scheduling a video on youtube with voiceover to be published. The only add 
>> on that I want to add to this video is you can only select for the time the 
>> section of the video to be posted at the top of the hour, or the half hour. 
>> So for example you could only schedule a video to be posted at 12 AM,, or 
>> 12:30 AM… but you do have all 24 hours to choose from.
>> 
>> I only mention this because I forgot to explain that better in the video, 
>> however here's the video and hopefully it helps someone…
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPSMukM-_34=youtu.be 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPSMukM-_34=youtu.be>
>> best regards
>> Michael
>> 
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Scheduling a video to be published on youtube with voiceover (Video inside)

[Michael Babcock]

In this video i just published 2 hours ago, i walk you threw the process of 
Scheduling a video on youtube with voiceover to be published. The only add on 
that I want to add to this video is you can only select for the time the 
section of the video to be posted at the top of the hour, or the half hour. So 
for example you could only schedule a video to be posted at 12 AM,, or 12:30 
AM… but you do have all 24 hours to choose from.

I only mention this because I forgot to explain that better in the video, 
however here's the video and hopefully it helps someone…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPSMukM-_34=youtu.be 

best regards
Michael


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Re: How To Increase the speed of a youtube video using safari and OS X (Video inside)

[Michael Babcock]

Thanks for your kind words…

I'll try to explain this in more detail!

When I'm recording videos on my Macintosh computer, I use an application I 
purchased for US$99 called screen flow. This will allow me to record the camera 
from my computer, the screen from my computer, VoiceOver from my computer, and 
my voice. I can also record in any combination of the four mentioned recording 
abilities. So for example I could record just my screen and voiceover, or my 
screen, my voice, and voiceover, or maybe just my voice and my camera…

Regarding videos on my iPhone, I use the Camera application that comes natively 
installed on iOS. I find the camera mode selector, flick  to video, make sure 
the proper camera is selected  rear facing or front facing, then press either 
one of the volume keys to start recording. Press either one of the volume keys 
to stop recording.
Let me know if any more clarification is necessary.

Hope you're doing amazing



Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael.
> 
> Please explain to me further what you mean re your message below as I don't 
> understand.  If need be,  you can write to me off list as you did yesterday.
> 
> As I said, you were very kind to send me my answers off list.  Also, I really 
> liked your podcast as it was rather like another person I know who does to 
> the point podcasts.  Yours was straight to the point which was brilliant.
> 
> Thanks again and I look forward to your replies when ever you wish to reply, 
> no rush.
> 
> I did not expect a message from you so again, thank you very very much.
> 
> Kawal. 
>> On 22 Oct 2016, at 03:41, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I personally record all my videos in screen flow ($99 app) on the mac.
>> My videos on my phone are done in the camera app.
>> and i emailed you off list regarding the Jaws questions.
>> best.
>> michael
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I liked the video thanks.  I listen to a lot of Youtube when at work to 
>>> help me work as it were so how does one pause or set volume up and down if 
>>> you are using jaws as I'm always having to tab.  I know it's a Mac list but 
>>> I need to use windows at work.  I know that the Mac handles Youtube stuff 
>>> just fine after this video.  Also how does one make a video on an I phone 
>>> or Mac?  I don't have any editing tools.  I thought that Apple would have 
>>> an app already installed on your phone or your I Mac or Mac computer to 
>>> handle all this without you having to buy anything further.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>>> On 21 Oct 2016, at 18:14, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In this video i walk you threw the process of increasing the playback 
>>>> speed of a video using Safari and Voiceover on the latest version of SOX. 
>>>> I hope some of you enjoy this, and look forward to providing more 
>>>> information in the future. Check out the description of this video for 
>>>> links to anything i referenced in this video, mainly J.R.’s channel if you 
>>>> want to learn more about a low vision vlogger.
>>>> 
>>>> changing the speed of a video using youtube and voiceover
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcT7GMEwUMY
>>>> hoping your all well.
>>>> 
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Re: How To Increase the speed of a youtube video using safari and OS X (Video inside)

[Michael Babcock]

glad you got some use out of it. I haven’t found a way to speed videos up on 
IOS, though i did find Speedeo (i have not tested for accessibility) and it 
apparently will let you increase the speed of YT videos on IOS to 2X.
http://speedeoapp.com

HTH

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Quite helpful, thanks. Have you found a way to do this on iOS yet? I tend to 
> watch more Youtube on my phone, and would love a way to increase the playback 
> speed a bit there as well.
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 13:14, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> In this video i walk you threw the process of increasing the playback speed 
>> of a video using Safari and Voiceover on the latest version of SOX. I hope 
>> some of you enjoy this, and look forward to providing more information in 
>> the future. Check out the description of this video for links to anything i 
>> referenced in this video, mainly J.R.’s channel if you want to learn more 
>> about a low vision vlogger.
>> 
>> changing the speed of a video using youtube and voiceover
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcT7GMEwUMY 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcT7GMEwUMY>
>> hoping your all well.
>> 
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Re: How To Increase the speed of a youtube video using safari and OS X (Video inside)

[michael babcock]

I personally record all my videos in screen flow ($99 app) on the mac.
My videos on my phone are done in the camera app.
and i emailed you off list regarding the Jaws questions.
best.
michael

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I liked the video thanks.  I listen to a lot of Youtube when at work to help 
> me work as it were so how does one pause or set volume up and down if you are 
> using jaws as I'm always having to tab.  I know it's a Mac list but I need to 
> use windows at work.  I know that the Mac handles Youtube stuff just fine 
> after this video.  Also how does one make a video on an I phone or Mac?  I 
> don't have any editing tools.  I thought that Apple would have an app already 
> installed on your phone or your I Mac or Mac computer to handle all this 
> without you having to buy anything further.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 21 Oct 2016, at 18:14, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> In this video i walk you threw the process of increasing the playback speed 
>> of a video using Safari and Voiceover on the latest version of SOX. I hope 
>> some of you enjoy this, and look forward to providing more information in 
>> the future. Check out the description of this video for links to anything i 
>> referenced in this video, mainly J.R.’s channel if you want to learn more 
>> about a low vision vlogger.
>> 
>> changing the speed of a video using youtube and voiceover
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcT7GMEwUMY
>> hoping your all well.
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How To Increase the speed of a youtube video using safari and OS X (Video inside)

[michael babcock]

In this video i walk you threw the process of increasing the playback speed of 
a video using Safari and Voiceover on the latest version of SOX. I hope some of 
you enjoy this, and look forward to providing more information in the future. 
Check out the description of this video for links to anything i referenced in 
this video, mainly J.R.’s channel if you want to learn more about a low vision 
vlogger.

changing the speed of a video using youtube and voiceover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcT7GMEwUMY 

hoping your all well.

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Re: ogg files in latest itunes on osx siera?

[michael babcock]

and for what it’s worth, VLC on IOS is very nice two. I use VLC for my media 
control as i can speed the audio up!
VideoLAN - Official Download of VLC media player for Mac OS X
http://videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html
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> I'm not aware of a way, but Google, and install VLC Media player. It's 100% 
> free, and is 100% accessible.  What's also nice is there hardly will be a 
> learning curve from ITunes, as the interface in very many ways is extremely 
> extremely similar, and the shortcut key commands are almost identical to 
> ITunes.
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> VLC will definitely play vorbis files.  I do it all the time!
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> Subject: ogg files in latest itunes on osx siera?
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> 
> is there a way to play ogg files in this latest version of osx and  itunes? 
> with looking around i can’t really find any answers and dont really want to 
> convert files to mp3  unless i have to we’ve got a ton of ogg files so this 
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Re: "Mark as Junk Mail" missing in Sierra

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it’s been renamed as “move to junk"
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
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> Am I right that "mark as junk mail" choice in contextual menu in Mail under 
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Re: amazon echo

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http://www.mysticaccess.com/other-audio-tutorials/amazon-echo-mp3-audio-tutorial
> On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:10 AM, wayne  wrote:
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> hello sorry i know this is off topic but has anyone have the link to buy the 
> echo tutorial from mystic-access only i am thinking of buying one and would 
> like to listen to the tutorial before i decide thanks
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Re: Is Sierra Stable Concerning VoiceOver

[michael babcock]

yes it is, i’ve personally not noticed bugs in my every day use of voiceover 
and in fact find it to be more stable then previous versions of OS X

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 5:44 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
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> All,
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> I’d like to upgrade from Yosemite to Sierra but do have concerns regarding 
> “Show Stopper” issues with VoiceOver.  Has there been any such serious 
> VoiceOver issues?
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correction re: google docs:

[Michael Babcock]

the keystroke to bring keystrokes up is command+/
In other web based   apps, that i use daily, e.g. Facebook, Twitter, Trello, 
Slack, etc the keystroke to show keystrokes is a question mark, however google 
products is a command+/ on the mac.
That’s what i get for assuming!
sorry for the confusion all, and next time i’ll consume coffee before i reply 
to list messages :)
best.
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Re: Google Docs question

[michael babcock]

and your right sorry:
To open a list of keyboard shortcuts in Google Docs, press Ctrl + / (Windows, 
Chrome OS) or ⌘ + / (Mac). 

> On Oct 2, 2016, at 8:11 AM, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gmail.com> 
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> i’m sorry, you need to move focus out of the editing of the document with 
> “VO+Left or VO+Right” then use the question mark to open the keystrokes. or, 
> reference this article for the keystrokes:
> https://support.google.com/docs/answer/179738?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop=en
>  
> <https://support.google.com/docs/answer/179738?co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop=en>
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Chris G <jedikent@mysticaccess.email 
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>> Hi,
>> So if I am editing in a doc for example, wouldn't a question mark put in a 
>> question mark?
>> On my Chrome book and Windows machines it is control-slash, but it says it 
>> is different on the mac.
>> My 2009 mac mini is too slow to do anything with.
>> Chris
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>>  Original Message 
>> From: michael babcock
>> Sent: Sunday, Oct 2, 2016 10:53 AM EST
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Google Docs question
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>> type a question mark on any google product.
>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Chris G <jedikent@mysticaccess.email> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> Using the mac I'm looking for the hot key in google docs to bring up a list 
>> of all hot keys.
>> The online stuff I have found shows a picture.
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Re: Google Docs question

[michael babcock]

i’m sorry, you need to move focus out of the editing of the document with 
“VO+Left or VO+Right” then use the question mark to open the keystrokes. or, 
reference this article for the keystrokes:
https://support.google.com/docs/answer/179738?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop=en 
<https://support.google.com/docs/answer/179738?co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop=en>

> On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Chris G <jedikent@mysticaccess.email> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> So if I am editing in a doc for example, wouldn't a question mark put in a 
> question mark?
> On my Chrome book and Windows machines it is control-slash, but it says it is 
> different on the mac.
> My 2009 mac mini is too slow to do anything with.
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>  Original Message 
> From: michael babcock
> Sent: Sunday, Oct 2, 2016 10:53 AM EST
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Google Docs question
> 
> type a question mark on any google product.
> On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Chris G <jedikent@mysticaccess.email> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Using the mac I'm looking for the hot key in google docs to bring up a list 
> of all hot keys.
> The online stuff I have found shows a picture.
> Chris
> 
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Re: Google Docs question

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type a question mark on any google product.
> On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Chris G  wrote:
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Re: Dash vs Minus

[michael babcock]

I don’t think there is a way to type it differently, but maybe :) always stand 
to be corrected.
you can set in the drop down of the third column  of that table an app if you 
want VO to handle that Pronunciation globally or within one app.

> On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   That should work but that would be global wouldn't it? Normally pne would 
> not notice a difference in print but using Voiceover, when numbers are 
> involved, dash would not do. And when not using numbers, minus would not be 
> good.
> 
>   So I am curious if there is an actual difference in typing the two 
> characters? Thanks much.
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> On 9/29/2016 9:44 PM, michael babcock wrote:
>> go to the VO utility Select “Speech”, then “Pronunciation”.
>> Click add, and put a “-“ in place for the “text” and “minus” in place for 
>> the Substitution
>> note, i had to press “vo+Space” on the “Substitution” color in the table 
>> then type the word “minus” using voiceover 7 in OS X 10.12.
>> hope that helps
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>>>  Can one type a minus character so that Voiceover speaks 'minus' and not 
>>> 'dash'?
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Re: Dash vs Minus

[michael babcock]

go to the VO utility Select “Speech”, then “Pronunciation”.
Click add, and put a “-“ in place for the “text” and “minus” in place for the 
Substitution
note, i had to press “vo+Space” on the “Substitution” color in the table then 
type the word “minus” using voiceover 7 in OS X 10.12.
hope that helps
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Re: Downgrading to El Capitan

[michael babcock]

How to downgrade from macOS Sierra back to OS X El Capitan | iMore
http://www.imore.com/how-downgrade-macos-sierra-back-os-x-el-capitan 


> On Sep 28, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
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> downgrade from OS Sierra to El Capitan

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Re: Streaming the Presidential Debate?

[Michael Babcock]

Yep no problem, you can run a full fledged TV channel from youtube if you 
wanted to; i’ve just done hangouts on air.

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Wow this is good to know Michael I never know they did that. I learn 
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>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com 
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>> 
>> Youtube does do live streams, and this looks like it is a live stream
>> September 26, 2016 6:00 PM
>> and hears an introduction to youtube live streaming :
>> https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2474026?hl=en 
>> <https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2474026?hl=en>
>> 
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>>> They might be streaming the thing on their website and then uploading it to 
>>> YouTube. So you will be able to watch their YouTube channel if you 
>>> subscribe to it you will get a notification that a new video has been 
>>> uploaded to their channel and so you will be able to watch it afterwords. 
>>> YouTube, I don't believe does live streams
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>>>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
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>>>> 
>>>> I did find this stream on Youtube that says it’ll play the presidential 
&g

Re: Streaming the Presidential Debate?

[Michael Babcock]

Youtube does do live streams, and this looks like it is a live stream
September 26, 2016 6:00 PM
and hears an introduction to youtube live streaming :
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2474026?hl=en 


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> YouTube. So you will be able to watch their YouTube channel if you subscribe 
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> channel and so you will be able to watch it afterwords. YouTube, I don't 
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>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Brandon A. Olivares > > wrote:
>> 
>> I did find this stream on Youtube that says it’ll play the presidential 
>> debate tomorrow night.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=855Am6ovK7s 
>> 
>> 
>> Wonder if that will work?
>>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 11:09 PM, Joseph Hudson >> > wrote:
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>>> Fox doesn't need to have a amplified TV antenna. If wish, I can provide a 
>>> direct link to their strain.
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 On Sep 25, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Pete Nalda > wrote:
 
 CBS, Fox TV, and ABC are all carying them. Can you buy an amplied tv 
 antenna somewhere?  I'm sure you could get at least one or two of those 
 channels with an amplified antenna.
 
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> On Sep 25, 2016, at 9:45 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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>  Can you pull in over the air channels? This one will be on NBC. The last 
> two debates won't be over the air so I may need to figure how to get 
> those on the AppleTV.
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Re: lightening to 3.5 mm adaptors.

[michael babcock]

that would be the Airpods , but not the new EarPods that come with the 7 and 7+
> On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> You don’t need suc a jack connecter.  You just connect it wirelessly to your 
> Mac:  as they indicated in the demo.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 3:06 AM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> Crazy question here but good reason for bringing up this situation again.
>>  
>> So now with the iPhone 7 you have no 3.5mm headphone jack  built in to the 
>> device,
>>  
>> Apple however have given us the adaptor with the iPhone 7 & 7+ going from 
>> the female 3.5mm jack to male lightening connector.
>>  
>> But my question is, 
>> Is anyone aware if apple or anyone else have a lightening to 3.5mm jack 
>> going the other way?
>>  
>> That is female lightening to male 3.5mm headphone jack?
>>  
>> I’ve got a pair of the new apple wired apple ear pods with lightening 
>> connector but if I want to plug that into my mac book air
>>  How does one do that?
>>  
>> Anyone aware of anything that would work here?
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>>  
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Re: found IOS 10 bugs

[Michael Babcock]

I’ve had to do this when joining conference calls before.
hope it helps.
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> So with the second one, the return to call button,
>  
> You mean tap it even though I’m still in the call  and it will give me back 
> the key pad functionality?
>  
> Might give that a try now with the thing I was doing earlier.
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Babcock
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> Subject: Re: found IOS 10 bugs
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> I seen the second one; don’t have phone with me so can’t check the first one.
> When the second one happens, double tap “return to call” on the status bar 
> and then use that keypad.
>  
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 9:22 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
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> Hi list,
>  
> Not sure if this is just me on my iPhone 6s+ but I’ve just found a couple of 
> oddities.
>  
> Firstly the delete button on the phone keypad says button not delete like it 
> used to,
>  
> I’m sure in the public beta it said delete but can’t be sure of that one.
>  
> It is still there just not labelled and it works fine.
>  
> Is anyone else seeing the same thing?
>  
> The second thing I’ve noticed is that during a phone call where I had to 
> setup a pin number for something  during the call I hadn’t noticed my phone 
> had locked the screan while I was talking
>  
> When I had to insert my pin code details I unlocked the phone and the keypad 
> was no longer being picked up as as having the keys pressed  yet the pad was 
> giving the tones each time the keys were touched.
> Another oddity,
> Just wondering if this is happening with anyone else on other devices
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Re: found IOS 10 bugs

[Michael Babcock]

I seen the second one; don’t have phone with me so can’t check the first one.
When the second one happens, double tap “return to call” on the status bar and 
then use that keypad.

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> Hi list,
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> Not sure if this is just me on my iPhone 6s+ but I’ve just found a couple of 
> oddities.
>  
> Firstly the delete button on the phone keypad says button not delete like it 
> used to,
>  
> I’m sure in the public beta it said delete but can’t be sure of that one.
>  
> It is still there just not labelled and it works fine.
>  
> Is anyone else seeing the same thing?
>  
> The second thing I’ve noticed is that during a phone call where I had to 
> setup a pin number for something  during the call I hadn’t noticed my phone 
> had locked the screan while I was talking
>  
> When I had to insert my pin code details I unlocked the phone and the keypad 
> was no longer being picked up as as having the keys pressed  yet the pad was 
> giving the tones each time the keys were touched.
> Another oddity,
> Just wondering if this is happening with anyone else on other devices
>  
> Cheers,
>  
>  
> Simon F
>  
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Re: AppleVis

[Michael Babcock]

macOS 10.12 Sierra: What's New and Changed for Blind ... - AppleVis
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-macos-news/macos-1012-sierra-what-s-new-and-changed-blind-and-low-vision-users
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>   Did AppleVis do an overview of Sierra yet? They usually are pretty quick to 
> do so after a release.
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Re: do i want firewire to ethernet or USB to ethernet?

[michael babcock]

thanks for this, and of course i’ll go to amazon vs apple :) found a usb3 to 
ethernet for only $13 vs the $29 apple wants for it. Prime ships it to my door 
for free.
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Overall, you probably won't notice a huge difference between them.  I much 
> prefer the Thunderbolt to Ethernet though as I find the Thunderbolt to be a 
> quicker transfer when dealing with HD's.  But, in the translation to 
> ethernet, you really won't notice much of a difference.  Your call.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 20:08, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the macbook pro mid 2015 and now that i think about it that should 
> have been thunderbolt or usb to ethernet
> not firewire…
> but will i see a noticeable difference between thunderbolt and USB3?
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Which Mac laptop do you have?  MacBook, MacBook Air or MacBook Pro.  Only 
>> older MacBook Pros, and quite old MacBooks have Firewire.  USB to ethernet 
>> would work for most of those, but the newer models would do better with a 
>> Thunderbolt to Ethernet adaptor instead.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 19:26, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com> wrote:
>> 
>> good day:
>> I was just offered a job threw amazon work from home.
>> My macbook doesn’t have an ethernet port, and so i need to buy one of these 
>> adaptors.
>> does anyone have a suggestion for what one would be better to order?
>> they are both the same price.
>> best.
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Re: do i want firewire to ethernet or USB to ethernet?

[Michael Babcock]

I have the macbook pro mid 2015 and now that i think about it that should have 
been thunderbolt or usb to ethernet
not firewire…
but will i see a noticeable difference between thunderbolt and USB3?

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Which Mac laptop do you have?  MacBook, MacBook Air or MacBook Pro.  Only 
> older MacBook Pros, and quite old MacBooks have Firewire.  USB to ethernet 
> would work for most of those, but the newer models would do better with a 
> Thunderbolt to Ethernet adaptor instead.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 19:26, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com> wrote:
> 
> good day:
> I was just offered a job threw amazon work from home.
> My macbook doesn’t have an ethernet port, and so i need to buy one of these 
> adaptors.
> does anyone have a suggestion for what one would be better to order?
> they are both the same price.
> best.
> michael
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do i want firewire to ethernet or USB to ethernet?

[Michael Babcock]

good day:
I was just offered a job threw amazon work from home.
My macbook doesn’t have an ethernet port, and so i need to buy one of these 
adaptors.
does anyone have a suggestion for what one would be better to order?
they are both the same price.
best.
michael

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screenflow 5 in OS X 10.12?

[Michael Babcock]

can anyone confirm if this works in OS X 10.12?
That’s the reason why i downgraded from the beta, is because SF 5 didn’t work 
in 10.12.
thanks.
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Re: Here's another weird one for ya.

[michael babcock]

I’ve been on public beta and noticed this with the version just before this one 
that is out.
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
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> Sure, I noticed that.  Thought it was weird as it did not do that during the 
> beta cycle.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> Have any of you noticed on iOS10, when making an outbound call, as soon as 
>> the call is sent, sometimes, in fact fairly often, Voiceover will say: 
>> incoming call?
>>  
>> It's the weirdest thing!
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

[michael babcock]

Apple doesn’t make there products and services to work for everyone.
All this talking about leaving because you don’t like there updates, means 
nothing honestly.
Apple is doing there marketing the right way; they aren’t in the everyone 
business and the people who do like there products and services obviously pay 
more.
What is a Mac in most cases?
A PC…
A Personal Computer … 
But apple markets a Mac as a Mac and the people who want there changes will 
continue paying for them.
I’ve seen a few people say that they don’t like the way apple is doing there 
updates, and just had to say, so what…
Switch to android, back to a Nokia N82, (Side note do they still make that 
phone?), windows 10 touch phone, etc.
#choices.
And regarding the new mail problem, yes i complained to a friend that i 
couldn’t use preview in my mail and listen to part of the messages. He didn’t 
know how to get this working, however the podcast AppleVis released helped me a 
lot.
Thanks for reading my rant.
Best.

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:30 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Change is counterproductive? Perhaps to some who have a hard time adapting 
> to change. But, at the end of each day, change is inevitable. If that is what 
> you deem as force, well, the solution is, of course, jump ship. But, 
> inevitable there as well. the cycle repeats itself.
> 
>   Release notes of sorts can be found at the wonderful resource called 
> Applevis.
> 
>   How long have you been using OS X? I am still learning this system but it 
> sure outruns Windows.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> On 9/15/2016 6:03 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
>> It seems counterproductive to force an up-to-date, streamlined
>> functionality, such as iOS to emulate an older, difficult, clumsy
>> system, namely OS.
>> If I'm not mistaken, there are more users of the iOS than the OS.  The
>> iOS represents a gateway experience that the public has readily adopted.
>> Among the public are large numbers of blind and disabled users.
>> If this new mail modality represents Apple's future for iOS, I am going
>> to be forced into seeking another phone and notebook alternative.  This
>> mail issue mushroomed, full-blown, from an update promised to improve,
>> to make simpler, to add features.
>> My experience has unfortunately invited an opposite opinion.  No release
>> notes guided usage; it was just changed, just done and just not helpful
>> or easily usable.
>> It feels as though there is a tug-of-war between some who learned on
>> that clumsy, multi-step, multi-keyboard usage system and those using the
>> iOs.  It is my opinion that the older, less easy OS needs to give place
>> to the more modern, more intuitive, more usable iOs and not the other
>> way round.
>> Each update adds extra complications to iOS in the name of improvements.
>> There are a cadre of blind and sighted who, like the old friends at
>> rehab, insist on speaking for us, the user/consumer blind, for our own good.
>> I recommend that all of us speak up in our own best interest or risk
>> losing something that could and did change the world for us.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:27, David Chittenden > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Correct, the way messages are handled has changed. Visually, it now
>>> looks much more like mail on the mac. It also works more like macmail.
>>> 
>>> When in the main message list, individual messages are still handled
>>> the same as in iOS 9. Threads are different. If one double-taps on a
>>> thread to activate it, one goes into a browse thread view. In this
>>> view, single-finger vertical flick moves up and down through the
>>> messages. Single-finger horrizontal flicks read through the specific
>>> message. Double-tap on the delete button at the bottom of the screen
>>> deletes all messages in the thread. Three-finger horrizontal flick
>>> moves between threads, threads and individual messages which do not
>>> belong to threads, and individual messages. In other words, the same
>>> as single-finger horrizontal flick in the message list screen.
>>> 
>>> If one wishes to delete only some messages from a thread, the thread
>>> must be expanded. Whilst in the main message screen, single-finger
>>> vertical flick to expand thread and double-tap. Now, the thread is
>>> unpacked and all the messages in the thread are treated like
>>> non-thread messages. Now that I have become used to this new system, I
>>> really like it. It took me a few hours of frustration to become used
>>> to this new system.
>>> 
>>> I am hoping that, as Apple continues merging the behaviours of apps
>>> for iOS and Mac, that we will see a full Mac-based iPad. I love
>>> touch-screen and want my touch-screen Mac, or the equivalent.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent 

Re: text file editor for iOS?

[Michael Babcock]

Have you used textedit?
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 1:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> What's a good text editor for iOS these days? I mean that literally--an 
> editor for .txt files, with no need to support rtf or any other formats. It 
> needs to be able to save to Dropbox. I have Voice Dream Writer, but it can't 
> open and save an existing file, making editing files a pain. I have Pages, 
> but have hardly used it. Any suggestions?
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