Re: Assigning a Keystroke to Open Spoken Content Options?

2022-12-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Herbie,

Sorry for the confusion. this doesn't have to do with Voiceover; it is the 
system text to speech I would like to adjust, such as the voice that announces 
the clock, etc.

Thanks,
Teresa

>   On Dec 2, 2022, at 1:32 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> If it’s just adjusting voices, you can do that with a VO Command Left and 
> Right Arrow to go through the options like Rate, voices, Etc, and VO command 
> up and down to make changes. You can also create activities that would assign 
> different voices to apps.
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 14:45, 'Teresa Cochran' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all. I use several apps that use the system voice for speech. Rather 
>> than wending my way through System Settings to Accessibility, Spoken 
>> Content, etc., I'd like to make a shortcut or use scripting or automation to 
>> jump into the Spoken Content settings to adjust voices. What's the best way 
>> to do this? I'm a little confused about where to start.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
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Assigning a Keystroke to Open Spoken Content Options?

2022-12-02 Thread 'Teresa Cochran' via MacVisionaries
Hi, all. I use several apps that use the system voice for speech. Rather 
than wending my way through System Settings to Accessibility, Spoken 
Content, etc., I'd like to make a shortcut or use scripting or automation 
to jump into the Spoken Content settings to adjust voices. What's the best 
way to do this? I'm a little confused about where to start.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Utorrent and Yahoo Toolbar With the Latest Update?

2014-07-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, guys,

I have not had a computer for a few weeks now, but my husband has a Windows 
laptop. He found Yahoo Toolbar malware, which seems to have installed with the 
latest update of UTorrent. I have no idea if the installer had an option to 
skip this software. I just thought I'd let everyone know, in case you're using 
a virtual machine or Bootcamp.. I'm also ot sure if this  applies to OS X. The 
toolbar gets installed on any browser you have automatically, and the only way 
to get rid of it in Windows is to use a malware removal tool and/or reset your 
cache.

HtH,
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Re: I No Longer Have A Mac

2014-06-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
Christopher, not to worry; your fears were totally unfounded. :) I very much 
prefer Mac to Windows. If it means I have to use iPods for financial reasons, 
so be it. I think I'll be able to get something else soon, though.

Teresa

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How I wonder what you're at
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 On Jun 22, 2014, at 11:50 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh Phew! Thought you were going back to the other platform then! And no 
 that's not iOS! Glad to hear you will either get another mac or an iPad. They 
 are both great. Good luck in whatever you acquire.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 23/06/2014 05:01, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 Hi, all,
 
 I had the Apple Store put my late 2009 Mac in line for recycling today. It's 
 logic board was dying.
 
 It'll be a few months before I replace it. Meanwhile, I've bought a cheap 
 bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPod.
 
 I'm not sure if I'm going to go with another Mac or an iPad. I'm still 
 thinking and considering.
 
 I just want to say thanks to you all for your help. I've had a lot of fun 
 assisting and being assisted. This is really a great list. At some point I 
 may go no mail. I can't quite bring myself to unsubscribe from this list. 
 I may not be posting as often, however. I'd be entirely willing to help out 
 where I can with iOS devices.
 
 Whatever happens, please know that I've reallY appreciated the knowledge and 
 support I've gotten here. I'll be recommending this list whenever possible.
 
 Thanks and take care,
 Teresa
 
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 How I wonder what you're at
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Re: My clean install so far

2014-06-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
I remember being able to work with WIFI networks from recovery mode. Now I'm 
just trying to remember how I did it. I know it's possible to use the window 
and application choosers once you get VO running. Sorry I can't be of more 
help, but I distinctly remember doing an Internet install. My network was 
hidden, so I had to enter the name and password. This was from within the 
install utilities.

HtH,
Teresa 

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 On Jun 22, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Think wifi is supported for internet recovery but I imagine the first screen 
 to choose a wifi network would be completely inaccessible as nothing is 
 loaded at the time.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 22/06/2014 16:20, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 If one does as you've mentioned and somehow wiped the entire drive including 
 the Recovery Partition, then you would need to use cmd-shift-r in order to 
 access the Internet startup and do your install from there.  Things to note:
 
 * an entire wipe is more or less impossible unless you are first in a 
 separate startup system or within the Recovery Partition as you can't format 
 the drive of a running system.
 * I'm fairly sure that you need an ethernet connection to run the Internet 
 startup system, although, I could be corrected on this one.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 22, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Chris, am glad to hear that by performing a clean install you are 
 experiencing lots of improvements. Out of interest, before you did the 
 clean install did you upgrade from any previous version or versions of OSX?
 
 As for myself, for the clean install folks this may sound crazy but I've 
 been doing straight updates from Lion and as of yet, I haven't experienced 
 any problems with any upgrade. If it aint broken, don't fix it. I guess 
 that's my motto. lol
 However, I may consider performing one when the new OSX comes out in the 
 Autumn. Partly, I'm keen to experience it myself without any sighted help 
 and because well to get rid of some of the rubbish that my system may of 
 accumulated since 2011 when I brought my MBP. Like Chris, I could do with a 
 bit of a speed boost myself and so think I'll give it a shot come autumn! .
 
 Chris, and others I have a question about clean installs. Sure, I know why 
 it is a good idea to create the installer on a flash drive but my question 
 is this: If one was in a situation where they didn't have a flash drive for 
 whatever reason and they erased/wiped and reformatted the hard drive that 
 is on there system and restarted the Mac computer and held down command R 
 to bring up the recovery partition, Would it be possible to install OSX 
 from the recovery partition by obviously having an internet connection to 
 download the OS and go from there to setup there new system.
 
 Basically, what I am trying to say is that without any backup media of an 
 installer would it still be possible to clean install OSX with just the 
 recovery partition and an internet connection without nothing else. As a 
 side note: obviously you wouldn't do this but what would happen if a novist 
 completely wiped there Mac OS restarted, heard the chine sound and waited. 
 Would it just simply be well... broken? Hence, why a backup media of the 
 installer would certainly be a life saver.
 
 Thanks for any answers in advance.
 
 Daniel
 On 22 Jun 2014, at 11:21, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everybody
 Well my clean install of Os X 10.9 Mavericks is going very well. My 
 startup time has been dramatically improved thanks to the clean install 
 from over a minute to about half that time maybe less. It certainly can 
 help to do a clean install if you have issues like that. And when I say 
 clean install I mean that. Restructure your disc and reinstall the 
 operating system from scratch. As you have seen from my note the other day 
 I used my USB flash drive with the Mavericks Installer created with 
 Diskmakerx rather than the recovery partition. I like to have my installer 
 on file in case my internet is out of action which would be required if 
 installing from the recovery partition since the installer base image 
 isn't actually stored on the partition.
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Re: My clean install so far

2014-06-22 Thread Teresa Cochran
Having a drive to install from saves a whole lot of time. It takes awhile 
sometimes to download the installer from the Internet.

Teresa

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How I wonder what you're at
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 On Jun 22, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Chris, am glad to hear that by performing a clean install you are 
 experiencing lots of improvements. Out of interest, before you did the clean 
 install did you upgrade from any previous version or versions of OSX?
 
 As for myself, for the clean install folks this may sound crazy but I've been 
 doing straight updates from Lion and as of yet, I haven't experienced any 
 problems with any upgrade. If it aint broken, don't fix it. I guess that's 
 my motto. lol
 However, I may consider performing one when the new OSX comes out in the 
 Autumn. Partly, I'm keen to experience it myself without any sighted help and 
 because well to get rid of some of the rubbish that my system may of 
 accumulated since 2011 when I brought my MBP. Like Chris, I could do with a 
 bit of a speed boost myself and so think I'll give it a shot come autumn! .  
 
 Chris, and others I have a question about clean installs. Sure, I know why it 
 is a good idea to create the installer on a flash drive but my question is 
 this: If one was in a situation where they didn't have a flash drive for 
 whatever reason and they erased/wiped and reformatted the hard drive that is 
 on there system and restarted the Mac computer and held down command R to 
 bring up the recovery partition, Would it be possible to install OSX from the 
 recovery partition by obviously having an internet connection to download the 
 OS and go from there to setup there new system.
 
 Basically, what I am trying to say is that without any backup media of an 
 installer would it still be possible to clean install OSX with just the 
 recovery partition and an internet connection without nothing else. As a side 
 note: obviously you wouldn't do this but what would happen if a novist 
 completely wiped there Mac OS restarted, heard the chine sound and waited. 
 Would it just simply be well... broken? Hence, why a backup media of the 
 installer would certainly be a life saver.
 
 Thanks for any answers in advance.
 
 Daniel  
 On 22 Jun 2014, at 11:21, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello everybody
 Well my clean install of Os X 10.9 Mavericks is going very well. My startup 
 time has been dramatically improved thanks to the clean install from over a 
 minute to about half that time maybe less. It certainly can help to do a 
 clean install if you have issues like that. And when I say clean install I 
 mean that. Restructure your disc and reinstall the operating system from 
 scratch. As you have seen from my note the other day I used my USB flash 
 drive with the Mavericks Installer created with Diskmakerx rather than the 
 recovery partition. I like to have my installer on file in case my internet 
 is out of action which would be required if installing from the recovery 
 partition since the installer base image isn't actually stored on the 
 partition.
 -- 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
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I No Longer Have A Mac

2014-06-22 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I had the Apple Store put my late 2009 Mac in line for recycling today. It's 
logic board was dying.

It'll be a few months before I replace it. Meanwhile, I've bought a cheap 
bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPod.

I'm not sure if I'm going to go with another Mac or an iPad. I'm still thinking 
and considering.

I just want to say thanks to you all for your help. I've had a lot of fun 
assisting and being assisted. This is really a great list. At some point I may 
go no mail. I can't quite bring myself to unsubscribe from this list. I may 
not be posting as often, however. I'd be entirely willing to help out where I 
can with iOS devices.

Whatever happens, please know that I've reallY appreciated the knowledge and 
support I've gotten here. I'll be recommending this list whenever possible.

Thanks and take care,
Teresa

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Re: I No Longer Have A Mac

2014-06-22 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Pam,

Thanks for the kind words. I really have no idea about the recycling program as 
such. It's possible they would pay if the computer still worked to some extent. 
I wouldn't even wish a fried logic board on my worst enemy. I don't think. LOL 
Anyway, I admit I was in a little bit of shock, and he offered to recycle it. 
This is good for me, as it eliminates a lot of hassle.

Teresa

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How I wonder what you're at
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 On Jun 22, 2014, at 9:44 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa,
 Your posts have always been well thought out and much appreciated. Am very 
 curious; how does the recycling program work? Did they pay you anything for 
 your Mac given the fact it was being recycled? Personally, I'm going to hang 
 onto this one as long as I can. The newer ones are not upgradable.
 Thanks again for all of your help and wisdom.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Jun 22, 2014, at 11:01 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 I had the Apple Store put my late 2009 Mac in line for recycling today. It's 
 logic board was dying.
 
 It'll be a few months before I replace it. Meanwhile, I've bought a cheap 
 bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPod.
 
 I'm not sure if I'm going to go with another Mac or an iPad. I'm still 
 thinking and considering.
 
 I just want to say thanks to you all for your help. I've had a lot of fun 
 assisting and being assisted. This is really a great list. At some point I 
 may go no mail. I can't quite bring myself to unsubscribe from this list. I 
 may not be posting as often, however. I'd be entirely willing to help out 
 where I can with iOS devices.
 
 Whatever happens, please know that I've reallY appreciated the knowledge and 
 support I've gotten here. I'll be recommending this list whenever possible.
 
 Thanks and take care,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Text edit problem

2014-06-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
Unfortunately, you won't be able to do this by default, but you can press 
command-n in the dialog to bring up a blank document.

HtH,
Teresa

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 On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:52 PM, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 I'm having a problem with text edit on the Mac. 
 
 When I open it, it seems to want to open the documents folder. 
 
 How do I fix it, so that when I open it, it presemts  me with the option of 
 creating a new document. 
 
 
 
 George 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
I much prefer Braille for reading over audio. And now, hearing loss has made 
Braille even more important for me. I wish displays didn't have so many moving 
parts, but since they do, and Braille is very important to me, the hassle is 
worth it. Using Braille with OS X and iOS is different from Windows, naturally. 
I guess it's simply a matter of personal preference. If you rely heavily on 
Braille, then the current technology is useable, if not ideal.

You might find out from dealers and manufacturers what their repair and 
maintenance policies are. Freedom Scientific has a flat repair program, which 
allows you to have the most common repairs done for a flat fee. I don't 
remember what that fee is at this point, but I paid $250 US several years ago 
for a cleaning and battery replacement. Or you can get a display that has 
easily replaceable batteries. Think about the ways you would use a display. Do 
you want one with a book reader and storage card? Do you want portability?

I'm sorry I can't help you with the specific model you're considering, as I 
don't have any experience with it.

HtH,
Teresa 

Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
How I wonder what you're at
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 On Jun 21, 2014, at 4:00 AM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I like to research thoroughly before any purchase. I have asked about certain 
 displays etc, and think I am decided on a braille edge. 
 
 My question is general for those who have opinions pro or con. braille 
 displays are expensive, and have a lot of moving parts. I worry about 
 reliability. Is it worth it? I am also a fairly medium speed braille reader. 
 I can do significantly more and go faster with voiceover. for those who use a 
 lot of braille  how do you feel about how productive it is? is it slower for 
 you? I love braille, but my big question  is do I want to go to something 
 that is slower than voiceover. I guess I am looking for a pro/con list of 
 getting a display from those who use one. thanks all. 
 
 alia
 
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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
I read lots of books with my Braille display using Kindle, iBooks, and Bard. I 
only read audio books when I can't get them in Braille or I don't want to pay. 
(or can't pay). I'm such a Braille fanatic that I use my Focus 40 Blue with my 
iPod. I was never sure I wanted to scroll a whole bunch with a small Braille 
display. So carrying around a 40-cell one is no big deal for me, as it might be 
with others. Of course, I'm still used to carrying around my Braille Lite 40, 
which is much heavier than a Focus 40 Blue. If there's a way you can try 
reading books with a display, or working with it otherwise, you might get a 
better idea of what you want to do by doing so.

Teresa

Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
How I wonder what you're at
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 On Jun 21, 2014, at 6:12 AM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I do too, although I am liking audio more lately with the bard app. I just 
 don't know about having an expensive specialized piece of equipment. I am so 
 torn, and I know voiceover isn't supporting braille as much as they do the 
 audio part of voiceover. 
 
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Re: Alex on IOS 8

2014-06-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, I would love that. My hearing impairment is such that I understand male 
voices much better than female ones. Currently, I use Daniel, but I'd much 
rather use Alex.

Teresa

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 On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh wow, that will be amazing, I always wondered when/if that would ever 
 happen.
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We're all curious at this moment so let's be patient.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 19/06/2014 19:33, Jessica D wrote:
 I would be curious to know if he would work on my iPhone 5 and iPad 
 fourth-generation.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I'm pretty excited about having Alex speaking under ios 8.
 
 Will he work on the iPad 3rd generation as well as the latest iPad mini?
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
 
 
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Re: My first clean install of Os X

2014-06-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, I don't find myself biting my knuckles with Os X installs. It's quite nice.

There is Braille support for USB only in recovery mode and with the installer.

HtH,
Teresa

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 On Jun 20, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
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 Hi all
 I was frustrated with the stuttering speech at startup on my late 2011 
 Macbook Pro 13 inch. I contemplated doing a clean install and finally got 
 round to doing this today. I thought I would share my experience after years 
 of reinstalling Windows countless times. Fortunately the stuttering has gone 
 away for now. Note I was using a flash drive to boot into the Os X Installer 
 which I made thanks to a free program called Diskmakerx formally Lion Disc 
 Maker.
 Let me stress that the entire process can be done completely independent of 
 sight thanks to VoiceOver or be it a temporary copy if you like shipping with 
 Os X Installer. The Fred voice is used which will remind you of Dectalk. Sure 
 VoiceOver does not start automatically, never does, but pressing command-f5 
 is all you need to do to get the installer to talk. I believe Braille support 
 is even included so even a deafblind person can do this.
 I got a bit lost in translation when it came to rebuilding my disk which I 
 personally wanted to do so could really start fresh. Turned out all I had to 
 do was choose 1 from the partition layout pop-up button, click apply and it 
 does the rest including formatting the entire partition in this case. So 
 intuitive! Because I was so used to Windows ways of reinstalling I thought I 
 had to remove all partitions first. No wonder I wasn't getting anywhere as Os 
 X doesn't work like that.
 The installation process was very straightforward indeed. Although for some 
 reason it got stuck right at the end of preparing to install. I was on the 
 landline at the time when the mac suddenly rebooted into the installer loaded 
 on the newly created partition. Os X Installer took care of the rest. Finally 
 I set up my new install again completely independent of sight as by this time 
 you are in the actual Os X installation. You do not need to do anything at 
 this point as after about a minute a prerecorded voice lets you know about 
 VoiceOver and how to get started. All Macs do this whether just bought or 
 after a clean install. So just follow the verbal propts and set up your mac.
 Hope you find this valuable. Enjoy!
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Re: Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

2014-06-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Kawal,

Many common file types will open in iOS. If it's sent either as a link or an 
attachment, such as pdf, etc., I will be able to open it. The publications I 
write for are pdf.

Teresa

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 Morning Teresa.
 
 I have one question for you. How will you handel downloads if you just use an 
 I Pad? What will you do if someone sent you a download?
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 19 Jun 2014, at 02:43 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, Alex. My thought is that the touch-screen feedback will for the most 
 part make up for the lack of window information. Between the touch-screen, 
 Braille display, and keyboard, it seems like I'd be comfortable with the 
 amount of feedback I would get.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
 
 Winging its way from my iPod
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Many do, and the non-VO keystrokes for navigating and manipulating text are 
 identical. Basic navigation (vo-left/right/space) and reading (vo-a/w/c) 
 are the same, but the iOS platform lacks many advanced keystrokes. For 
 instance, hotspots/webstpots, vi-key lock, focus/cursor/window information, 
 etc.
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
 replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's 
 destined for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a 
 keyboard with it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my 
 iPod 5th gen and iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO 
 functions work the same with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, 
 text selection, etc.?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Next Public Apple Event?

2014-06-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

It seems I should remember this from past events, but what is the usual fall 
event at which new Apple products are announced?

Thanks,
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Re: Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

2014-06-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
I actually have a set of computer speakers with a subwoofer that sound and work 
great with my iPod. I haven't heard the iPad built-in speakers yet. They'll 
probably come in handy as a backup.

Teresa

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 On Jun 19, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
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 Don't forget the sound quality which is superior on the iPad than any other 
 iOS device. Recent iPads come with stereo speakers as well.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 19/06/2014 03:03, Alex Hall wrote:
 One consideration is that, aside from battery life and a few iPad-only apps, 
 the iPad offers no significant advantages (that I can think of) over the 
 iPod. At the least, they are identical in terms of VO keystrokes, so hook a 
 keyboard to the iPod and see what you think. I believe you said you have an 
 iPod - if not, ignore me. smile
 
 No, command-tab won't work, but go-h is your home button; press h twice 
 while holding down the vo keys and you are in the App Switcher. It is kind 
 of similar to the Application Chooser on the Mac. Certainly it is far less 
 convenient, but the option is there.
 
 I like having a full computer for apps the iOS platform can't run (Xcode, 
 some nice Youtube apps, etc) but those aren't a concern for you. However, 
 someone mentioned external drives, and that's a great point. Also, iOS lacks 
 commanders, so no assigning frequently used actions or even ApleScripts to 
 gestures or keystrokes. Overall, because of the shortcut key support in apps 
 Not necessarily in VO) I find the Mac or a Windows machine more efficient to 
 use. That's just me though.
 
 Finally, the new Macbook Airs, and even the Pros from the brief times I've 
 felt them, have very little in the way of vents or other holes. They use 
 solid state drives, so have no moving internal parts except for some 
 amazingly quiet fans you really can't access (the Airs seem to have no fans, 
 but I could be wrong). Debris, then, is really not as much of a concern, and 
 of course they make a myriad of cases for all these devices.
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:44 PM, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A lot of the IOS key strokes are similar.  For example, you can hit Left 
 and Right Arrow together to turn Quick Nav on and Off.  You can hit Left 
 and Up Arrow together to switch between rotor settings then Up/Down Arrow 
 to move to the next or previous rotor item. One thing you can't do on IOS 
 is hit Command+Tab to switchbetween open applications. If you are in an 
 edit box, you can hit Option+Shift+Arrow key to select text just like on 
 Mac OS.
 
 Ryan
 Follow me on Twitter @progressivecat.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
 replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's 
 destined for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a 
 keyboard with it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my 
 iPod 5th gen and iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO 
 functions work the same with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, 
 text selection, etc.?
 
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Accessing iCloud Web Mail on iOS?

2014-06-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I'd like to create a global sign'ture for my iCloud devices. I know how to 
change it on each device, but is there a way to set one up in iCloud itself 
that I can access with my iPod? I don't have a computer at the moment.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Accessing iCloud Web Mail on iOS?

2014-06-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Alex,

That's odd. When I went to icloud.com on my Mac, I went to the mail section and 
saw a way to change the signature there. In the help for iCloud, it says 
there's a web mail link, but my iPod doesn't show a page when I click it. It 
may not have been implemented yet, I guess.

Thanks,
Teresa

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 On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I don't think so. As far as I can tell, signatures don't sync at all, and are 
 meant to be device-specific. This is annoying, but I have found no way around 
 it yet.
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
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 I'd like to create a global sign'ture for my iCloud devices. I know how to 
 change it on each device, but is there a way to set one up in iCloud itself 
 that I can access with my iPod? I don't have a computer at the moment.
 
 Thanks in advance,
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Re: Accessing iCloud Web Mail on iOS?

2014-06-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Right, it would make sense that Apple is pushing for mobile app use. Ok, 
changing signatures on the device is easy, though.

Thanks,
Teresa

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 On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can change signatures on iCloud.com, but that is only going to affect 
 mail sent from that website, not your other devices. Unfortunately, I don't 
 think iOS devices can fully access iCloud.com; Apple wants them to use the 
 mobile apps instead. This may have changed, but last I checked, that is how 
 it worked.
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, Alex,
 
 That's odd. When I went to icloud.com on my Mac, I went to the mail section 
 and saw a way to change the signature there. In the help for iCloud, it says 
 there's a web mail link, but my iPod doesn't show a page when I click it. It 
 may not have been implemented yet, I guess.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
 Winging its way from my iPod
 
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 I don't think so. As far as I can tell, signatures don't sync at all, and 
 are meant to be device-specific. This is annoying, but I have found no way 
 around it yet.
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 I'd like to create a global sign'ture for my iCloud devices. I know how to 
 change it on each device, but is there a way to set one up in iCloud 
 itself that I can access with my iPod? I don't have a computer at the 
 moment.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

2014-06-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, David,

Welcome to the list. I did a double-take, because I just realized you've posted 
to another list I'm on, and thought you were already a member of this one for a 
while. In any case, my confusion is cleared up.

I switched to the Mac in 2010 and just jumped right in. I wasn't doing 
Assistive Tech work anymore, so I was able to do the full immerssion bit. 
I've used my husband's Windows computer a few times, but basically, it's been 
all Apple for me. If my computer decides it's toast and doesn't just simply 
need a hard-drive replacemen, I may be going to mobile devices for good. I'll 
think about it.

Anyhow, welcome and look forward to hearing from you.

Teresa

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 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've 
 been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows and, a 
 few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit 
 that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was 
 more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials 
 and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I 
 absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one 
 for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I 
 also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my 
 knowledge which I need to fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able 
 to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the 
 Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it.  I 
 think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple 
 and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between 
 iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
 -- 
 David Goldfield,
 
 
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Re: Probably a Basic Question About Browsing folders in the Finder

2014-06-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, David,

The finder has three basic views: list view, column view, and icon browser. 
List view and column view are the most accessible. The list view has a table 
with fairly detailed information about each file. You can expand the folders 
from the table or use option-down-arrow to go into the focused folder and 
remain there while manipulating files. Column view is kind of like a tree view 
in Windows. Icon view is, I think, a grid that shows icons for your folders and 
files. So the table is for your list view, and the browser is either for column 
view or icon view.

To get to these views on the fly, there are keyboard shortcuts: command-1 for 
icon view, command-2 for listview, and command-3 for column view. You can 
adjust a folders default view or the default view for all folders with 
command-J.

I hope this helps.

Teresa

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How I wonder what you're at
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 On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:59 PM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries 
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 I won't waste any time as I have a question.
 I've gotten very comfortable at using the finder.  In the past, when I enter 
 my Mac HD drive I right arrow past the toolbar and I'm told there is a table. 
  When I interact with the table, I can then get to my various files and 
 folders.
 As of yesterday, everything still works but instead of being told that I'm in 
 a table I'm told that I'm in the browser voiceover says browser, 1 item 
 selected.  If I interact with the browser, I am still able to access my 
 folders.  I'm just curious as to how things changed from a table to a browser 
 and what the differences actually are between the two.
 
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Re: Kudos to Apple Accessibility

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, I've felt comfortable enough with Apple Accessibility that I called and 
asked a curious question about editing Braille commands. The guy was interested 
enough that he had us do a screen-sharing session, because he didn't have 
access to a Braille display. We concluded that the only way to edit Braille 
commands was by using command-b first, but he offered to put in my suggestion 
for using the Braille display to edit commands as a feature request. I 
definitely wouldn't have felt comfortable initiating this with most other 
companies. This is the main reason I have Apple products.

Teresa

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 On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For those who don't think anything ever happens with Apple Accessibility, 
 here's a happy story. 
 
 I recently decided to stop complaining about a couple issues and take them to 
 Apple Accessibility. 
 
 One issue in IOS is the speaking of the word selected before some but not 
 all picker items. This is maddening in long lists of items like times. 
 
 They responded immediately asking for an example of an app in which this 
 occurs. It's easy to find in the calendar app. I reported such and got a very 
 nice note back stating that the issue has been documented and passed to the 
 appropriate department. 
 
 Yeah, I know, that sounds like lip service but I don't think so. I think it 
 actually got done. 
 
 I also received detailed instructions for how to report the problem of VO 
 losing focus on some IOS apps. I thought at first it was just the Amazon app 
 but the more I explored the issue, it seems to happen to a lesser degree in 
 other apps as well. I'll have more time this weekend to try the instructions 
 and send a report. 
 
 Have I ever heard from Dell when reporting things? Microsoft? rarely and then 
 it is a cnned response. Yay Apple.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Kudos to Apple Accessibility

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Tyler, maybe some messages found their way to the spam folder? Just a thought.

Teresa

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 On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow, yes, I did use the email address and had a response within 12 hours. 
 Even when I just reported something I’ve always gotten a response, if not a 
 personal one. These last two interactions were more specific and definitely 
 personal. 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
 How did you get in touch with apple accessibility? Was it via 
 theaccessibil...@apple.com email address? All of my bug reports there have 
 gone unanswered.
 On 6/18/2014 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 Yes, I've felt comfortable enough with Apple Accessibility that I called 
 and asked a curious question about editing Braille commands. The guy was 
 interested enough that he had us do a screen-sharing session, because he 
 didn't have access to a Braille display. We concluded that the only way to 
 edit Braille commands was by using command-b first, but he offered to put 
 in my suggestion for using the Braille display to edit commands as a 
 feature request. I definitely wouldn't have felt comfortable initiating 
 this with most other companies. This is the main reason I have Apple 
 products.
 
 Teresa
 
 Winging its way from my iPod
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 For those who don't think anything ever happens with Apple Accessibility, 
 here's a happy story.
 
 I recently decided to stop complaining about a couple issues and take them 
 to Apple Accessibility.
 
 One issue in IOS is the speaking of the word selected before some but 
 not all picker items. This is maddening in long lists of items like times.
 
 They responded immediately asking for an example of an app in which this 
 occurs. It's easy to find in the calendar app. I reported such and got a 
 very nice note back stating that the issue has been documented and passed 
 to the appropriate department.
 
 Yeah, I know, that sounds like lip service but I don't think so. I think 
 it actually got done.
 
 I also received detailed instructions for how to report the problem of VO 
 losing focus on some IOS apps. I thought at first it was just the Amazon 
 app but the more I explored the issue, it seems to happen to a lesser 
 degree in other apps as well. I'll have more time this weekend to try the 
 instructions and send a report.
 
 Have I ever heard from Dell when reporting things? Microsoft? rarely and 
 then it is a cnned response. Yay Apple.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: command+o won't open folders on external drives anymore.

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Which folder view are you using. With list view, you can go into the folder 
with command-down-arrow and back into the enclosing folder with 
command-up-arrow.

HtH,
Teresa

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 I've just noticed recently that for some weird reason, command+o won't open 
 the folders on my external drive as well as my flash drive anymore, and have 
 to expand the folders I want to open if I want to see anything in them, which 
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Re: over drive books

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
I don't know which converter to use, but most Overdrive books are wma Windows 
Media files, so you'll need one that will convert from that format. Also, there 
is some sort of DRM protection on them that makes them time-limited.

HtH,
Teresa



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 On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:04 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:
 
 Hi there everyone.
 
 I have a program called Macsome Audiobook 
 Converter that works great for audible books, but from what I can tell it 
 doesn't work for over drive books. That is unless I'm overlooking something.
 
 Does anyone know of a program that can convert these books like Macsome 
 Audiobook 
 Converter can do for audible books?
 
 May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
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Re: command+o won't open folders on external drives anymore.

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
I made a mistake when posting the command for opening folders. It's 
option-down-arrow and option-up-arrow. To open a single file, it's 
command-down-arrow.

HtH,
Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:51 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I've suddnely found that isn't working for me either. In list view, it always 
 did, now I have to open a folder with right arrow.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 18 Jun 2014, at 19:08, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Which folder view are you using. With list view, you can go into the folder 
 with command-down-arrow and back into the enclosing folder with 
 command-up-arrow.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 Winging its way from my iPod
 
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 wrote:
 
 I've just noticed recently that for some weird reason, command+o won't open 
 the folders on my external drive as well as my flash drive anymore, and 
 have to expand the folders I want to open if I want to see anything in 
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Re: over drive books

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
As I recall, you can burn them onto a CD, but that makes it an audio CD, or 
should I say *many CDS, because audio CDS take up much more room than mp3 ones.

HtH,
Teresa 

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 On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:41 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:
 
 Oh, right I forgot about the darn time limit part. I'm assuming if you burn 
 the books to a cd if I can get it in mp3 format or something that it kills 
 that too?
 
 May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I don't know which converter to use, but most Overdrive books are wma 
 Windows Media files, so you'll need one that will convert from that format. 
 Also, there is some sort of DRM protection on them that makes them 
 time-limited.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 
 
 Winging its way from my iPod
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:04 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there everyone.
 
 I have a program called Macsome Audiobook 
 Converter that works great for audible books, but from what I can tell it 
 doesn't work for over drive books. That is unless I'm overlooking something.
 
 Does anyone know of a program that can convert these books like Macsome 
 Audiobook 
 Converter can do for audible books?
 
 May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
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Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's destined 
for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a keyboard with 
it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my iPod 5th gen and 
iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO functions work the same 
with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, text selection, etc.?

Thanks,
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Re: over drive books

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, I know what you mean. Even Audible would be an imfrovement. It would be 
great if they could coordinate with the public library systems.

Teresa

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 On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:03 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:
 
 *grumbles*
 
 Darn overdrive books. They should be as easy to work with as audible, lol. 
 Thanks, I'll definitely see what I can figure out.
 
 May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 As I recall, you can burn them onto a CD, but that makes it an audio CD, or 
 should I say *many CDS, because audio CDS take up much more room than mp3 
 ones.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa 
 
 Winging its way from my iPod
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:41 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca 
 wrote:
 
 Oh, right I forgot about the darn time limit part. I'm assuming if you burn 
 the books to a cd if I can get it in mp3 format or something that it kills 
 that too?
 
 May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I don't know which converter to use, but most Overdrive books are wma 
 Windows Media files, so you'll need one that will convert from that 
 format. Also, there is some sort of DRM protection on them that makes them 
 time-limited.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 
 
 Winging its way from my iPod
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:04 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there everyone.
 
 I have a program called Macsome Audiobook 
 Converter that works great for audible books, but from what I can tell it 
 doesn't work for over drive books. That is unless I'm overlooking 
 something.
 
 Does anyone know of a program that can convert these books like Macsome 
 Audiobook 
 Converter can do for audible books?
 
 May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 
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Re: Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Alex. My thought is that the touch-screen feedback will for the most 
part make up for the lack of window information. Between the touch-screen, 
Braille display, and keyboard, it seems like I'd be comfortable with the amount 
of feedback I would get.

Thanks,
Teresa


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 On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Many do, and the non-VO keystrokes for navigating and manipulating text are 
 identical. Basic navigation (vo-left/right/space) and reading (vo-a/w/c) are 
 the same, but the iOS platform lacks many advanced keystrokes. For instance, 
 hotspots/webstpots, vi-key lock, focus/cursor/window information, etc.
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
 replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's 
 destined for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a 
 keyboard with it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my 
 iPod 5th gen and iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO 
 functions work the same with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, text 
 selection, etc.?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

2014-06-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hmmm, thanks, Alex, that's an excellent suggestion.

Teresa

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 On Jun 18, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 One consideration is that, aside from battery life and a few iPad-only apps, 
 the iPad offers no significant advantages (that I can think of) over the 
 iPod. At the least, they are identical in terms of VO keystrokes, so hook a 
 keyboard to the iPod and see what you think. I believe you said you have an 
 iPod - if not, ignore me. smile
 
 No, command-tab won't work, but go-h is your home button; press h twice while 
 holding down the vo keys and you are in the App Switcher. It is kind of 
 similar to the Application Chooser on the Mac. Certainly it is far less 
 convenient, but the option is there.
 
 I like having a full computer for apps the iOS platform can't run (Xcode, 
 some nice Youtube apps, etc) but those aren't a concern for you. However, 
 someone mentioned external drives, and that's a great point. Also, iOS lacks 
 commanders, so no assigning frequently used actions or even ApleScripts to 
 gestures or keystrokes. Overall, because of the shortcut key support in apps 
 Not necessarily in VO) I find the Mac or a Windows machine more efficient to 
 use. That's just me though.
 
 Finally, the new Macbook Airs, and even the Pros from the brief times I've 
 felt them, have very little in the way of vents or other holes. They use 
 solid state drives, so have no moving internal parts except for some 
 amazingly quiet fans you really can't access (the Airs seem to have no fans, 
 but I could be wrong). Debris, then, is really not as much of a concern, and 
 of course they make a myriad of cases for all these devices.
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:44 PM, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A lot of the IOS key strokes are similar.  For example, you can hit Left and 
 Right Arrow together to turn Quick Nav on and Off.  You can hit Left and Up 
 Arrow together to switch between rotor settings then Up/Down Arrow to move 
 to the next or previous rotor item. One thing you can't do on IOS is hit 
 Command+Tab to switch   between open applications. If you are in an edit 
 box, you can hit Option+Shift+Arrow key to select text just like on Mac OS.
 
 Ryan
 Follow me on Twitter @progressivecat.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
 replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's 
 destined for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a 
 keyboard with it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my 
 iPod 5th gen and iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO 
 functions work the same with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, 
 text selection, etc.?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: iPod question

2014-06-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oddly enough, I think that putting them on your wish list and then downloading 
them using your -puter would be the easiest way to go about this.

HtH,
Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Jun 17, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I have an iPod fourth generation that I really like.
 I have several books on it in the Bard Mobile app.
 I would like to take these books and move them to my white macbook then put 
 them on my vr stream.
 How can I do this?
 
 Blessings,
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Re: Focus 40 Blue and Maverix

2014-06-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
I'll echo what Rich says. My Focus 40 Blue works great with Mavericks.

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Jun 16, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Rich Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can use my Focus 40 blue via bluetooth within Mavericks, without any 
 problems.
 
 You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
 richr...@gmail.com
 
 On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Our state wishes to purchase a Focus 40 Blue with a new Mac computer.  I 
 have paired the Focus with Mountain Lion.  I am wondering if anyone has 
 successfully paired and connected/used the Focus 40 Blue from within 
 Maverix?  Thanksfor the info.
 
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Re: Messages and Mail / One Row Added -was- Re: VO won't shut up when downloading files if Downloads folder is open

2014-06-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
I do something similar to hiding apps: I use full screen on each one. I don't 
have those Mail message verbosity problems. Of course, it's possible to create 
an activity for an app and change the verbosity within that activity. I have it 
ses to high for some applications and low for others.

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Jun 16, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Cara,
 
 I only hear the One row added when I'm actually in Mail. However, I always 
 hide the apps I'm not currently using, so this could explain why I'm never 
 bothered by this.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 On 16 Jun 2014, at 16:52, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 Thanks so much for the suggestion, but I actually have completely disabled 
 Notification Center and removed it from my status menus so it absolutely 
 never comes up or bothers me with anything at all! :)
 
 I'm wondering though, in the method you are mentioning, when Notification 
 Center is active and you have disabled announcements as you have, are the 
 'one row added' shenanigans in Mail and other apps mercifully prevented or 
 do they still go on?
 
 Thank you so much Anne! Do have a lovely day / evening!
 
 Cara :)
 
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Re: Audio Hijack Pro

2014-06-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
Welcome, Anders. Once you get the Audio Hijack application, you can set each 
kind of recording up in it. You can record streams while playing others. You 
would have to take a look at all of your settings for recording, etc. within 
the app. By default, Audio Hijack will exclude Voiceover from being recorded.

HtH,
Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Jun 16, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 My name is Anders Holmberg and i am from Sweden.
 I am ttotaly blind and 39 years.
 I have had my mac Mini since 2011.
 This is my first and only Mac for now but hopfully i will get a macbook also.
 Even though i am not really used to the mac.
 I come from both windows and Linux so maybe thats why i have ndifficulties 
 learning or getting the grip of the mac.
 Of course i can navigate the web and do mail and also navigating the folder 
 structure but i really find some things very strange. But i find mac quite 
 good for using with most apps i work with.
 However lets come to my question which is audio related.
 Lets say i am listening to a live stream on the internet.
 Now i want to record another archived stream with audio hijack pro.
 I suppose i can do that but how?
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: dev preview

2014-06-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
My guess is that it was a typo for OS X Yosemite, the upcoming operating system 
upgrade.

Teresa

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 On Jun 15, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 When you refer to Psx Yosemite, are you talking about the operating system, 
 or is this something else?
 On Jun 15, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 did anyone get the email about the public beta for the download of PS X 
 Yosemite 
 
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Differences Between Sort By and Arrange By in Finder View Options?

2014-06-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I've arranged my downloads folder so it shows the most recently added items at 
the top. In the view options, accessed with command-j, I have both arrange by 
date added and sort by date added specified. What is the difference between 
these two options, if any. I'm reluctant to change these to find out, but I 
could try. I don't imagine it would hurt anything; I just have to remember what 
I need to do to reverse the setting.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: Bluetooth Braille Displays

2014-06-11 Thread Teresa Cochran
I'm lucky in that respect that my husband uses Windows. I borrow his computer 
when I need to update my Focus 40 Blue Classic. This is the only thing I truly 
rely on Windows  to do.

From what I can gather, the different displays have different firmware 
versions from Freedom Scientific. The version number for mine is 4.59, but 
this is different from the newer displays.

Hth,
teresa

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On Jun 11, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 I have not had problems with my Mac waking from the Braille Edge. The Focus 
 14, if it turns itself off because it has been too long, it has to be turned 
 back on, and then VoiceOver will connect again automatically. As for 
 updating, the Braille Edge updates on the Mac fine. You just save out to a SD 
 card and follow the instructions on the Braille Edge. As for me, when it 
 comes time to update my Focus 14, I will have to get someone else to do it 
 since I refuse to put Windows on my Mac just for that. I don't need Windows 
 for anything else. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 On Jun 10, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 They might've screwed it up a little in IOS 7. It did work good with IOS 6 
 though. I would've assumed that most of them used windows-based firmware 
 updaters, but the Braille Edge might have a way to load it by putting a file 
 on the SD card with it. The one issue I did have is that if the phone goes 
 to sleep, the bluetooth can't wake it, but that may be the way Apple devices 
 are in general.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Eugenia Firth
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 4:47 PM
 Subject: Re: Bluetooth Braille Displays
 
 Hi there
 If I had it to do over again, I would wait a while before getting any of the 
 focuses. First of all, you have to use Windows to update them. That may not 
 be a problem for you, but it is a pain for me. Second of all, right now some 
 of us are experiencing really big problems. Focus display with getting the 
 focuses to pair with the Mac. I hear that is going to be changed when next 
 update comes around, and I sure hope so.
 I do not have the same problems with my Braille edge 40. I had a  problem 
 one time, and that took about two weeks to resolve. Just my two cents on the 
 matter.
 
 Sincerely,
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 10, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 The Focus 40 Blue is a pretty good display. It does both bluetooth and USB 
 for if yo were going to use it with the computer as well. Also, they have 
 recently added the ability to switch between the two so you could go from 
 the phone to the PC and back easily. I think the big issue might be whether 
 or not voiceover supports using braille in other languages more so than the 
 display, as I would assume all languages still use the same 6 or 8 dots of 
 braille.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel Smith
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 1:27 PM
 Subject: Bluetooth Braille Displays
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'm in the research phase of purchasing a bluetooth braille display, and 
 I'm looking for advice from my fellow visionaries. I've never owned a 
 braille display, so I'm not too sure which models and brands are most 
 reliable, popular, etc. 
 
 What would you recommend for one whose primary use will be reading Braille 
 in other languages (I'm a biblical studies student at Yale) ). I'd like it 
 to be bluetooth so I don't need to deal with the additional wires, and I 
 don't mind it being a bit larger, since I'll be using it primarily at home. 
 
 Any and all advice is welcome.
 
 Regards,
 Daniel
 
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Re: Google chrome, ChromeVox, and VoiceOver

2014-06-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Voiceover does work extremely well in Chrome without Chromevox.

HtH,
teresa

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On Jun 10, 2014, at 11:35 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 That seems to be the big drawback with ChromeVox. Not that it isn't usable 
 and such but that it only works inside the Chrome browser. So anytime you 
 want to do anything anywhere else in your computer you have to go back to 
 voiceover and switch mental models of keystrokes and navigation. Not sure 
 it's worth the hassle just for a different experience inside the Chrome 
 browser.
 
 CB
 
 On 6/10/14, 10:26 AM, Tim Emmons wrote:
 Hey Phil, I use it as well. I have found that if you turn voiceover off and 
 use the Chromevox navigation keys it's much easier, much more responsive and 
 less of a hassle to deal with the two components fighting each other. Just 
 my thoughts. If you need help let me know. Thanks and take care.
 On Jun 10, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've just started using chrome with chrome box for a video intensive site 
 where the webmaster recommends either chrome or firefox. How are people 
 using Chrome/chrome box? I'm leaving VO on and just use the chrome box 
 navigation keys to get around on the page, and VO for menus and such. Any 
 suggestions for best uses of chrome with box/VO? How about chrome settings?
 
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Has Anyone Tried This Kids' Game, Ballyland? Where to Find Executable File in Demo?

2014-06-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
I was poking around, and found this game: ballyland.com . It's a game for kids 
with print disabilities, including visual impairment. there is a free demo, but 
the folder seems to have an app alias with no app. Anyone else get this to 
work? I'm stumped.

Teresa

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Re: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-07 Thread Teresa Cochran
this might sound obvious, but the best way to ensure you start up from your 
external drive is to go into the utilities menu, (I've temporarily blanked on 
the name of the utilities app that runs in the recovery partition) the one just 
to the right of the apple menu and choose startup disc. You can choose the 
thumb drive from there. 

Teresa

Slow down; you’ll get there faster.

On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Alex,
 
 Are you sure that it’s actually starting up from the thumb drive?  It sounds 
 like your Mini is starting up from the Recovery Partition instead.  They do 
 look and feel just the same.  I think that the second item when starting up 
 from the Recovery Partition says “Re-install MacOS X” whereas the thumb drive 
 should say “Install MacOS X”.  Not sure but, I’ll keep trying if that’s not 
 the case.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I was going off memory earlier, so misspoke a bit. I see “current, partition 
 format, popup button, but it is dimmed. The table is not dimmed, and neither 
 are the five tabs, but every other control in the Partitions Tab screen is 
 unusable for some reason. Also, don’t worry about taking a while to get back 
 to me; I avoid all website work for just the reason you described. smile 
 I’m just glad for the help; as I said, the nearest Apple Store is hours 
 away, and this machine isn’t covered anyway.
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 What I’m asking you to do is, in Disk Utility, select your drive.  That is, 
 the thing that reads 1 TB Hitachi blah blah or whatever make your HD is, 
 not the already partitioned volumes.  Then, go to the Partition tab and 
 partition your HD with one partition, MacOS Extended (Journaled) with name 
 Macintosh HD.  As well, press the Options button in this window and ensure 
 that your HD will have the GUID schema.  Apply this change and you’ll have 
 one volume on your drive with name “Macintosh HD”.  When you run the 
 Mavericks Installer from your thumb drive, the Recovery Partition will be 
 automatically created.
 
 Hope this is clearer.  Sorry for any confusion.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Sorry, I just want to clarify one point. All the “clean install Mavericks” 
 articles I’ve found say to format your disk/partition. They seem to imply 
 that you will magically have a Macintosh HD partition, even if it is the 
 only partition on an otherwise blank drive, or that you simply don’t erase 
 that partition at all. In your email, did you mean that the installer will 
 automatically create a partition of the proper size and name if one does 
 not already exist? I’d rather not go through this multiple times, so I 
 want to do everything right on the first try if I can. Thanks for your 
 patience.
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 Yes, I’m saying that you should totally wipe the HD.  That is, after 
 starting up from the thumb drive, go to Disk Utility and re-partition 
 your drive to one partition named Macintosh HD.  Any subsequent 
 partitions should be done later on the live drive.  This will ensure that 
 the Recovery Partition is created properly.  Not sure where the other 
 individual got there info but this is sound practice.  If you used 
 DiskMaker X to create your bootable Mavericks Installer, on the thumb 
 drive or the built-in “Create Install Media” utility of the Mavericks 
 Installer, then a proper Recovery Partition will be automatically 
 created.  If you used the Disk Utility method, then the Recovery 
 Partition must have already existed in order to create a proper 
 installation.  The problem in your case is that you need to do a total 
 re-format, so, using the existing Recovery Partition is not of any 
 benefit.  Refer to
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/2056561/how-to-make-a-bootable-mavericks-install-drive.html
 
 for info on these limitations.  In addition, if you didn’t perform a 
 complete wipe during your last clean install, these errors may have 
 carried over thus any disk structure issues would have persisted.
 
 Hope this makes sense.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I’m in the beta partition now, copying a few files over to my 
 external hard drive. The problem is here too: Finder just hung for about 
 thirty seconds, while my Mac’s HD made the sound I’ve come to dread. 
 Still, it’s working, thankfully; my main partition won’t even boot.
 
 As to wiping, I’m still not sure what to do. I mean, I know how to 
 format the drive from the OS X on my thumb drive and then install, the 
 question is, what do I do with my partitions? I have two, one Macintosh 
 HD and one OS X Beta Partition. When I did a 

Re: turning off the mac

2014-06-06 Thread Teresa Cochran
You can also do a clean shut-down by quitting all applications and then going 
into the Apple menu and choosing shut down. You will get a dialog asking you 
to confirm. Just press enter, which will press the default button, which is 
shut down.

HtH,
Teresa

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On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Don,
 
 I put my Mac into sleep mode at night and very rarely shut it down. However, 
 VO-Cmd-Eject is the best way to shut it down. It's all to easy to hold down 
 the Power key for too long and shut the Mac down brutally without it having 
 the chance to close down tidily.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Jun 2014, at 07:22, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I assume most people turn their mac off at night rather than just putting it 
 into sleep mode.  Right?  
 If you do turn it off, how do you do it?  I turn mine off using vo command 
 eject.  I purchased the learning the mac discussed a few days back, and in 
 there she says to press the power button for about 3 seconds to shut down.
 
 Is one method any better than the other?  
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Can't find splitter to drag to close Mail preview pane

2014-06-06 Thread Teresa Cochran
Put Mail into classic view in Mail preferences, viewing, then check use 
classic layout.. Then find the message list and VO-right. You should find the 
splitter there.

HtH,
teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

On Jun 5, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I believe that you need to put your Mail into Classic view first.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 On my MBA (which I'm using for everything until my Mini is back), I can't 
 find the splitter I should be able to use to close the horribly annoying 
 preview pane in Mail. Can someone remind me where it is, in case I'm 
 thinking of the wrong one? Thanks.
 
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Re: turning off the mac

2014-06-06 Thread Teresa Cochran
I don't shut mine down much either, because I use BOINC software for various 
projects when my computer is idle. I usually shut it down when there's a close 
thunderstorm, or I restart it if it's acting strangely.

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Jun 6, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I seldom, if ever shutdown my Mac.  My MBP is put to sleep at night simply 
 due to the fact that I close the lid whereas my other Desktop Macs stay on, 
 24-7-365.  In fact, the computer is set to stay awake and only the display 
 goes to sleep.  Just makes it easier for me to access other computers when 
 they're awake.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Don,
 
 I put my Mac into sleep mode at night and very rarely shut it down. However, 
 VO-Cmd-Eject is the best way to shut it down. It's all to easy to hold down 
 the Power key for too long and shut the Mac down brutally without it having 
 the chance to close down tidily.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Jun 2014, at 07:22, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I assume most people turn their mac off at night rather than just putting 
 it into sleep mode.  Right?  
 If you do turn it off, how do you do it?  I turn mine off using vo command 
 eject.  I purchased the learning the mac discussed a few days back, and in 
 there she says to press the power button for about 3 seconds to shut down.
 
 Is one method any better than the other?  
 
 Thanks,
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Autoplay, wasRe: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-06 Thread Teresa Cochran
Steve, just press control-home to go to your home page.

Teresa

Slow down; you’ll get there faster.

On Jun 6, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the article detailing how to build a bootable image but the damn site 
 started up autoplaying other videos. How the hell do I stop them? It’s still 
 babbling away while I’m writing this mail. I can close the window of Safari 
 byt then I can’t read the article. I hate auto play. I can’t find any 
 controls to stop the playback. This just sucks!
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 Yes, I’m saying that you should totally wipe the HD.  That is, after 
 starting up from the thumb drive, go to Disk Utility and re-partition your 
 drive to one partition named Macintosh HD.  Any subsequent partitions should 
 be done later on the live drive.  This will ensure that the Recovery 
 Partition is created properly.  Not sure where the other individual got 
 there info but this is sound practice.  If you used DiskMaker X to create 
 your bootable Mavericks Installer, on the thumb drive or the built-in 
 “Create Install Media” utility of the Mavericks Installer, then a proper 
 Recovery Partition will be automatically created.  If you used the Disk 
 Utility method, then the Recovery Partition must have already existed in 
 order to create a proper installation.  The problem in your case is that you 
 need to do a total re-format, so, using the existing Recovery Partition is 
 not of any benefit.  Refer to
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/2056561/how-to-make-a-bootable-mavericks-install-drive.html
 
 for info on these limitations.  In addition, if you didn’t perform a 
 complete wipe during your last clean install, these errors may have carried 
 over thus any disk structure issues would have persisted.
 
 Hope this makes sense.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I’m in the beta partition now, copying a few files over to my 
 external hard drive. The problem is here too: Finder just hung for about 
 thirty seconds, while my Mac’s HD made the sound I’ve come to dread. Still, 
 it’s working, thankfully; my main partition won’t even boot.
 
 As to wiping, I’m still not sure what to do. I mean, I know how to format 
 the drive from the OS X on my thumb drive and then install, the question 
 is, what do I do with my partitions? I have two, one Macintosh HD and one 
 OS X Beta Partition. When I did a clean install back in March, I had only 
 the Macintosh HD partition and so didn’t need to worry. I reformatted that 
 partition, but didn’t actually erase it, as people I asked told me that 
 completely erasing the Macintosh HD partition could turn out badly. Are you 
 saying that I should format the entire drive, wiping out both partitions? 
 If I do that, won’t it affect the installation of the OS, or will the 
 installer partition as necessary?
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 For expediency purposes, I wouldn’t worry about re-mapping partitions 
 etc., you’re just going to wipe the drive and re-partition anyway.  
 Regarding grabbing those files, if you startup from your thumb drive, then 
 go under it’s Apple menu to Startup Disk, you should be able to select the 
 10.9.3 beta partition as your startup disk.  if things are OK in that area 
 of the HD.  Once you’ve started with that version of the OS, you could 
 quickly get the files you want and place them onto whatever media you 
 want.  You could then go ahead and do the total wipe/re-partition and 
 re-install from your 10.9.3 thumb drive.  It’s best to do it from there 
 since it needs to be done from a external source in order to completely 
 reformat the drive.
 
 If you’re unable to startup from your beta partition, then the drive is in 
 fairly rough shape and you’d either need to use Terminal commands to grab 
 those files or just give up on them.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 5, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks guys. I have a thumb drive with Mavericsk that I’ve used before, 
 and that I keep around now that we have a couple Macs in the house. I’ll 
 use that. Before I do though, is there any way to copy off any other 
 files I’d like to keep, ones I could recover but that it’d be easier just 
 to have if I can get them? I could probably boot into that beta partition 
 and copy, but I don’t know if I’ll have the permissions to do that. I’ll 
 also need a way to erase the beta partition, if that is indeed the 
 problem. I only tested one OS, the 10.9.3 beta a month ago, but I suppose 
 it could have caused the problem. Anyway, can I erase that from Disk 
 Utility on the recovery HD, and if so, how would I do that and merge its 
 space back to Macintosh HD?
 On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:11 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I 

Correction, Autoplay, wasRe: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-06 Thread Teresa Cochran
I meant to say command-home to go to the home page.

Teresa

“Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. Feynman

On Jun 6, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the article detailing how to build a bootable image but the damn site 
 started up autoplaying other videos. How the hell do I stop them? It’s still 
 babbling away while I’m writing this mail. I can close the window of Safari 
 byt then I can’t read the article. I hate auto play. I can’t find any 
 controls to stop the playback. This just sucks!
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 Yes, I’m saying that you should totally wipe the HD.  That is, after 
 starting up from the thumb drive, go to Disk Utility and re-partition your 
 drive to one partition named Macintosh HD.  Any subsequent partitions should 
 be done later on the live drive.  This will ensure that the Recovery 
 Partition is created properly.  Not sure where the other individual got 
 there info but this is sound practice.  If you used DiskMaker X to create 
 your bootable Mavericks Installer, on the thumb drive or the built-in 
 “Create Install Media” utility of the Mavericks Installer, then a proper 
 Recovery Partition will be automatically created.  If you used the Disk 
 Utility method, then the Recovery Partition must have already existed in 
 order to create a proper installation.  The problem in your case is that you 
 need to do a total re-format, so, using the existing Recovery Partition is 
 not of any benefit.  Refer to
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/2056561/how-to-make-a-bootable-mavericks-install-drive.html
 
 for info on these limitations.  In addition, if you didn’t perform a 
 complete wipe during your last clean install, these errors may have carried 
 over thus any disk structure issues would have persisted.
 
 Hope this makes sense.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I’m in the beta partition now, copying a few files over to my 
 external hard drive. The problem is here too: Finder just hung for about 
 thirty seconds, while my Mac’s HD made the sound I’ve come to dread. Still, 
 it’s working, thankfully; my main partition won’t even boot.
 
 As to wiping, I’m still not sure what to do. I mean, I know how to format 
 the drive from the OS X on my thumb drive and then install, the question 
 is, what do I do with my partitions? I have two, one Macintosh HD and one 
 OS X Beta Partition. When I did a clean install back in March, I had only 
 the Macintosh HD partition and so didn’t need to worry. I reformatted that 
 partition, but didn’t actually erase it, as people I asked told me that 
 completely erasing the Macintosh HD partition could turn out badly. Are you 
 saying that I should format the entire drive, wiping out both partitions? 
 If I do that, won’t it affect the installation of the OS, or will the 
 installer partition as necessary?
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 For expediency purposes, I wouldn’t worry about re-mapping partitions 
 etc., you’re just going to wipe the drive and re-partition anyway.  
 Regarding grabbing those files, if you startup from your thumb drive, then 
 go under it’s Apple menu to Startup Disk, you should be able to select the 
 10.9.3 beta partition as your startup disk.  if things are OK in that area 
 of the HD.  Once you’ve started with that version of the OS, you could 
 quickly get the files you want and place them onto whatever media you 
 want.  You could then go ahead and do the total wipe/re-partition and 
 re-install from your 10.9.3 thumb drive.  It’s best to do it from there 
 since it needs to be done from a external source in order to completely 
 reformat the drive.
 
 If you’re unable to startup from your beta partition, then the drive is in 
 fairly rough shape and you’d either need to use Terminal commands to grab 
 those files or just give up on them.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 5, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks guys. I have a thumb drive with Mavericsk that I’ve used before, 
 and that I keep around now that we have a couple Macs in the house. I’ll 
 use that. Before I do though, is there any way to copy off any other 
 files I’d like to keep, ones I could recover but that it’d be easier just 
 to have if I can get them? I could probably boot into that beta partition 
 and copy, but I don’t know if I’ll have the permissions to do that. I’ll 
 also need a way to erase the beta partition, if that is indeed the 
 problem. I only tested one OS, the 10.9.3 beta a month ago, but I suppose 
 it could have caused the problem. Anyway, can I erase that from Disk 
 Utility on the recovery HD, and if so, how would I do that and merge its 
 space back to Macintosh HD?
 On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:11 PM, Tim 

Re: Amazon Cloud Player

2014-06-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
No, it isn't. Amazon mp3 downloader is accessible, and will let you play your 
music. You may have to select it as the default when you play. Here's the 
download page: 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/help/amd-bm.html?ie=UTF8*Version*=1*entries*=0



On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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   Is this app vouceover friendly on the Mac? I have tried it on Windows when 
 I buy music from Amazon and want to download to my compurter.
 
 Quote of the nanosecond . . .
 If you don't get what you really want, it's your own fault.
 Robert  Annie Yanni ke7nwn
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I'm Confused About iTunes Movies and Audio Description

2014-06-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ok, I'll try to be as clear about this as I can, but I'm a bit mixed up. Many 
DVDs nowadays have an optional audio description track, which is in the dVD 
menu. In the iTunes store, I notice two different kinds of movies. One says 
DVS: for blind viewers. The other would seem to be the equivalent of the 
standard release. If i play one of the second type, the audio is dimmed. Have 
the audio tracks been disabled because of copyright restrictions, or am I using 
the wrong setting in iTunes? Why would we need a special type of video file to 
get the audio description track? I've tried bringing up audio selections in 
iTunes from titles I know have been described by DVS.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: I'm Confused About iTunes Movies and Audio Description

2014-06-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
I just put DVS in the search field.

Teresa

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dark to read.--Groucho Marx

On Jun 4, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 How did you find the dvs selections within i tunes?
 Curiously,
 Cait
 
 On Jun 4, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I'll try to be as clear about this as I can, but I'm a bit mixed up. 
 Many DVDs nowadays have an optional audio description track, which is in the 
 dVD menu. In the iTunes store, I notice two different kinds of movies. One 
 says DVS: for blind viewers. The other would seem to be the equivalent of 
 the standard release. If i play one of the second type, the audio is dimmed. 
 Have the audio tracks been disabled because of copyright restrictions, or am 
 I using the wrong setting in iTunes? Why would we need a special type of 
 video file to get the audio description track? I've tried bringing up audio 
 selections in iTunes from titles I know have been described by DVS.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: I'm Confused About iTunes Movies and Audio Description

2014-06-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
Don't get your hopes up; there are only a few DVS movies that are specifically 
labeled that way. My confusion comes in with commercially-available movies that 
already have the audio track on the dVD. Are rentals different from purchases 
for DVDs? Are iTunes movies not equipped with the DVS tracks?

Teresa

We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan

On Jun 4, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 That term did not yield any results. I typed it as it was typed.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 thanks, will give that a go.
 Cait
 
 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I just put DVS in the search field.
 
 Teresa
 
 Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
 dark to read.--Groucho Marx
 
 On Jun 4, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 How did you find the dvs selections within i tunes?
 Curiously,
 Cait
 
 On Jun 4, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I'll try to be as clear about this as I can, but I'm a bit mixed up. 
 Many DVDs nowadays have an optional audio description track, which is in 
 the dVD menu. In the iTunes store, I notice two different kinds of 
 movies. One says DVS: for blind viewers. The other would seem to be the 
 equivalent of the standard release. If i play one of the second type, the 
 audio is dimmed. Have the audio tracks been disabled because of copyright 
 restrictions, or am I using the wrong setting in iTunes? Why would we 
 need a special type of video file to get the audio description track? 
 I've tried bringing up audio selections in iTunes from titles I know have 
 been described by DVS.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: I'm Confused About iTunes Movies and Audio Description

2014-06-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, tim. I posted before I saw your message. Yes, sometimes my sighted 
husband and I watch movies together, and he may not always want that DVS track.

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Jun 4, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I believe that at this point in the iTunes Movie evolution, audio description 
 is not separated out.  Therefore, you either purchase a DVS copy or a 
 standard copy of the title.  The problem here is that the movie will always 
 play with the audio description, which for me is no big deal, but for the 
 sighted people I watch movies with, it may just be.  Not sure if it's a 
 technology thing or something else.  Someone more well-read than me may be 
 able to chime in with the rationale.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 4, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 thanks, will give that a go.
 Cait
 
 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I just put DVS in the search field.
 
 Teresa
 
 Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
 dark to read.--Groucho Marx
 
 On Jun 4, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 How did you find the dvs selections within i tunes?
 Curiously,
 Cait
 
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 Ok, I'll try to be as clear about this as I can, but I'm a bit mixed up. 
 Many DVDs nowadays have an optional audio description track, which is in 
 the dVD menu. In the iTunes store, I notice two different kinds of 
 movies. One says DVS: for blind viewers. The other would seem to be the 
 equivalent of the standard release. If i play one of the second type, the 
 audio is dimmed. Have the audio tracks been disabled because of copyright 
 restrictions, or am I using the wrong setting in iTunes? Why would we 
 need a special type of video file to get the audio description track? 
 I've tried bringing up audio selections in iTunes from titles I know have 
 been described by DVS.
 
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Re: Can one download the beta of the new MacOS and if so how?

2014-06-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Gifi,

No, indicating the use of VO is not an option. I do totallY agree with your 
secodd point, though. I'm going to bring up any VO issues to the developers  if 
(or as?) they present themselves.

Teresa

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On Jun 4, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi there
 Do you get to indicate if you are a voiceover user if you signed up for the 
 public testing? I ask because we could really use some of us doing it.
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nothing wrong. You need to wait for an invite from Apple. They're only going 
 to let the first million customers test the beta of Yosemite. Us developers 
 can of course test it now so we may not get an invite to the public beta 
 which makes sense.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 04/06/2014 13:02, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Hi i just wondered if it's possible to download the new MacOsX beta 10.10 
 and if so how? I have registered for the free beta and haven't heard from 
 Apple as of yet, so i guess that i'm just too eager and that i should wait, 
 but if not, what have i done wrong. I got an email confirmation that the 
 registration was successful and that they would email me about the new beta 
 but haven't herd anything so just wonder if i could have done something 
 wrong, because the beta is out now for developers, isn't it?
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Re: Adding items to the dock

2014-06-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
go to the item in the finder, then press command-control-shift-t.

HtH,
teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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 Command-shift-t, I believe. It changed in mavericks, but I am pretty sure 
 that is the ML keystroke.
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 could somebody remind me of the keystrokes to ad an app to the dock?
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
I suddenly discovered a pairing workaround one day. I set the sounds to 'on in 
VO. When the pairing dialog comes up, it flashes a window, which makes a sound. 
As soon as I hear that sound, I turn my display off, which keeps the window in 
focus for some odd reason. Then I find the edit field to put the pin in and 
press enter. (The pin, for Focus 40 Blue, anyway, is , by the way.) then I 
turn the display back on. If you don't turn the display off the first time the 
pairing window comes up, the window keeps flashing in and out of focus.

Hth,
teresa

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 Hi there
 It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, 
 voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't 
 work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on 
 the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have 
 to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work 
 every time. Just keep at it. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello Eugenia.
 
 Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth 
 as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the 
 accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the 
 Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I 
 phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 Hi Alex 
 Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this 
 message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the 
 situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work 
 very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my 
 Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is 
 was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on 
 the System Preferences list. 
 
 Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under 
 Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to 
 use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. 
 Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this 
 message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you 
 can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch 
 between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide 
 to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still 
 have that open case on my Focus 14. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still 
 use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift 
 language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility 
 problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll 
 let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which 
 won't be until Xcode6 comes out.
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot 
 of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also 
 eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it 
 sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily 
 which should be good for everybody.
 
 CB
 
 On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
 Hi guys
 I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything 
 that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay 
 basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility 
 miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new 
 programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, 
 they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right?
 Sincerely,
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 In short, I'm okay at least for the next round.  Can you just imagine 
 how that's going to work out with accessibility?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
 blind built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac 
 update.
 http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran

How Accessible Would Getting to A Second OS X testPartition Be?

2014-06-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
I was reading on Ars Technica about creating a test partition to try Yosemite 
beta. My question is: how accessible would the boot process be? Would I have to 
count arrow-key presses or some such similar thing?

thanks,
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Re: How Accessible Would Getting to A Second OS X testPartition Be?

2014-06-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
A follow-up thought I had was that if I want to switch partitions, could I go 
into the recovery partition and choose one as the startup? This at least would 
be accessible with VO.

Teresa

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 I was reading on Ars Technica about creating a test partition to try Yosemite 
 beta. My question is: how accessible would the boot process be? Would I have 
 to count arrow-key presses or some such similar thing?
 
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Re: How Accessible Would Getting to A Second OS X testPartition Be?

2014-06-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Chris. Yes, I had that concern about the option-key method as well. The 
startup-disk option in Disk Utility sounds like a workable method.

Thanks,
teresa

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On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:48 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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 While I haven't tried it, you should be able to partition your drive to 
 appear as two separate disks with disk utility. Depending on how full the 
 current drive is you might be able to shrink the existing partition enough to 
 make room for Yosemite. Then you would install Yosemite on that new drive. As 
 far as switching startup drives, you should be able to do that by going to 
 System Preferences and picking which drive to start from and then reboot. 
 While you can also do this by holding down the option key while booting, I 
 suspect that way is not accessible since there won't be an OS running yet to 
 host voiceover.
 
 CB
 
 On 6/3/14, 12:40 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 A follow-up thought I had was that if I want to switch partitions, could I 
 go into the recovery partition and choose one as the startup? This at least 
 would be accessible with VO.
 
 Teresa
 
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 I was reading on Ars Technica about creating a test partition to try 
 Yosemite beta. My question is: how accessible would the boot process be? 
 Would I have to count arrow-key presses or some such similar thing?
 
 thanks,
 
 Teresa
 
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Re: What does Yosemite mean?

2014-06-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Kawal,

Yosemite is a Native American word. It is the name of a national park in 
California in the United States. The next versions of oS X are named after 
famous places in California. The last one, Mavericks, was named after a 
well-known surfing location on the California coast.

The phone calls will be routed through your phone, if you have one. I'm not 
sure if you can initiate one on your Mac and complete it on your device. I 
don't think you'll be able to make a phone call entirely on your Mac. 
admittedly, I don't have an iPhone, so I'm not as familiar with this option as 
others might be.

HtH,
Teresa

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 One of my questions is in the subject line.
 
 The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac 
 using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac?  Will it be 
 to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think?
 
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Re: What does Yosemite mean?

2014-06-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
I think it's as Alex says, which makes sense to me. The Mac functions as a 
giant bluetooth speaker phone or headset

Teresa

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 any idea how you would manually dial a number to use thephone fature or does 
 it have to be with the contact list?
 
 On 6/3/2014 1:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 Yosemite is a location in California. Starting with Mavericks, Apple began 
 naming new releases of OS X after places in California that enspire the 
 Apple team.
 
 Calling is still done through your iPhone. Your Mac essentially becomes a 
 really big bluetooth speakerphone, and can display incoming call 
 information. It can also make calls through the same mechanism, pushing the 
 phone number from itself over to your phone. So, calling strictly from the 
 Mac is still up to Skype and FaceTime, but cellular calls are possible if 
 you also own an iPhone.
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 One of my questions is in the subject line.
 
 The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac 
 using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac?  Will it be 
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WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/

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Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
You can download the free WWDC app.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wwdc/id640199958?mt=8

There used to be an Apple Keynotes podcast. I'm not sure if that still exists.

HtH,
Teresa

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Re: Getting VO to speak at log in, where did the option

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
It's in Users and Groups, users, groups and login options list. Interact with 
that and go all the way down to login options. Stop interacting and the use 
Voiceover checkbox is in that dialog.

htH,
teresa.

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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 system prefs? I can't find it. Thanks.
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Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For 
Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements yet. 
The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that effect.

HtH,
Teresa

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 what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
 just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
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Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
I wasn't aware there was a public beta test for mavericks. the page is here: 
https://appleseed.apple.com/betaprogram/ You may only have to sign in with your 
Apple ID.

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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 what is the public beta page?
 I am signed up as a public beta tester a while back when they first opened it 
 up for maverick
 
 On 6/2/2014 12:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For 
 Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements 
 yet. The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that 
 effect.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
  
 We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan
 
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 just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
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Re: WWDC keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
One more note: they haven't released any software yet. The first million 
applicants will be accepted. I am a little worried, because I still haven't 
seen any system requirements. Not sure if my old machine is up to it, but I'll 
find out.

Teresa

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 what is the public beta page?
 I am signed up as a public beta tester a while back when they first opened it 
 up for maverick
 
 On 6/2/2014 12:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For 
 Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements 
 yet. The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that 
 effect.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
  
 We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan
 
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 what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
 just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
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Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to the 
task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 

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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Looks like I'm in luck. Thanks.

Jessia, what is your Mac model?

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 I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some reason.
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
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 Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to 
 the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
 
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
You should be ok, as you have a later model. There are models listed from 2008.

HtH,
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On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Late 2013 I think 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Looks like I'm in luck. Thanks.
 
 Jessia, what is your Mac model?
 
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 dark to read.--Groucho Marx
 
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some reason.
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
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 Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up 
 to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
 
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Well, the way I figure it, when using an off-the-shelf product, you take your 
chances with accessibility. I signed up for the public beta. if it doesn't work 
out, I know from trial and error how to erase my drive and revert to an earlier 
OS. It should be a piece of cake compared to some of the bleeding-edge Linux 
distributions I've tried.

HtH,
Teresa

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 In short, I'm okay at least for the next round.  Can you just imagine how 
 that's going to work out with accessibility?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update.
 http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to 
 the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
 
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Re: Google help please

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
hi, max,

Go to this urL: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries and make sure 
you're signed into your account. VO-space on My Settings. Press the 
down-arrow key to go through the menu and find 'my membership and email 
settings for this group and press return. If the address you want to switch to 
is verified with Google, it should show in the popup menu of choices for 
addresses to use. If it doesn't show up, you will have to add it in your 
account. Then press the save button.

HtH,
teresa

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 I am hoping somebody has a good knowledge of Google Groups.
 I am subscribed to this list but I am not receiving messages to this address.
 My messages are going to my gMail account instead.
 Where in Google Groups can I change the address where my messages go to?
 Thanks for any help I am getting desperate!
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Re: LastPass and Safari - Major Problem!

2014-06-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
Try Safari preferences, tabs and windows tab. The option is when a new tab or 
window is open, make it active. the vault opens in a new tab or window, 
depending on how you have your Safari set up.

HtH,
Teresa
Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Jun 1, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello folks,
 
 I've been using Safari in full screen mode lately and that has kept LastPass 
 from grabbing focus all the time but now I'm running into another problem. I 
 can't seem to open up the vault anymore. When I go into the LastPass screen, 
 I hit Return or VO-Space on the link to access My vault and nothing opens. 
 Or at least VO doesn't show me anything new. I thought I was able to access 
 the vault this way. I'll tell you, Between the difficulty in using LastPass 
 in Firefox with Orca and Linux and now these problems on the Mac, I think I 
 will switch to 1Password. Only problem there is they don't have a linux 
 version.
 
 Anyone have better ideas on using LastPass on the Mac now? Sure, it recalls 
 passwords OK and it allows you to save passwords from the pop-up frame but 
 you can't manage the vault apparently. In fact yesterday, I was trying to get 
 into the frame to answer the prompt to save a new password and the LastPass 
 main panel grabbed focus and I was never able to get back to that original 
 prompt. For me, this is a mess!
 
 On May 7, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I stopped using last pass a long time ago because of the focus problem. 
 So, I appreciate this helpful info but I don't understand this full screen 
 mode.  I have avoided full screen mode in Safari because it keeps saying 
 something about spaces and I always end up loosing that page somewhere in 
 spaces It also seems that when I go into spaces mode and then move over to 
 my messages app my computer does all kinds of weird things. For example, I 
 can be typing in the message text box and suddenly, I start hearing VO make 
 announcements about spaces and my screen completely changes to something 
 else. :(  I have looked for a setting to turn spaces off but I never found 
 one. Anyways, I don't understand this spaces thing, I don't understand what 
 they are for or the benefit of them, nor do I understand why full screen 
 mode in Safari always means I go into spaces.
 
 Thanks,
 Christina
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 On May 5, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Are you saying the menus and toolbars are hidden visually? I haven't 
 noticed them being hidden from VO in full-screen mode. you can just press 
 VO-m to go into the menus as usual, and the toolbar is still available as 
 well.
 
 Teresa
 
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 Feynman
 
 On May 5, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, I tried full screen mode in Safari and I had much better luck. I only 
 tried one site due to limited time but at least focus stayed there in the 
 right place without jumping back to last pass. I'm not used to full screen 
 mode here because it appears to hide things like menu / tool bars but I 
 can toggle that mode on and off easily enough with the Command-Ctrl f key.
 
 Thanks again for the suggestion.
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I use all my apps in full-screen mode, so this hasn't been an issue for 
 me. I just make sure this is the case in safari, and LastPass works fine. 
 I suspect it might be an incompatibility issue with VO and LastPass in 
 Safari.
 
 Teresa
 
 On the other hand, there are different fingers.
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wasn't sure who the culprit was. When I started seeing this problem, 
 Safari had just been upgraded and LastPass had been upgraded fairly 
 recently too. I will have to try the maximize trick next time I need to 
 use it. I'm surprised this doesn't affect people not using VO as it 
 seems to grab keyboard focus. But I have other focus issues with Safari 
 too so why I haven't tried contacting anyone at Last Pass yet.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 On May 1, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 this has been a problem for a time now. You need to maximise the 
 screen. you can use CTRL + Command and F. Might help if you write to 
 last pass and tell them the problem. The more that write the better.
 Max
 
 On 2 May 2014, at 10:26 am, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I noticed with some recent changes to Safari and LastPass that now 
 whenever the LastPass plug-in is active, I can't keep focus from 
 jumping over into the LastPass HTML pane. I never had this problem 
 before. It makes it impossible to spend any time on a given site such 
 as filling forms without the cursor suddenly jumping over to the 
 LastPass page. Is anyone else seeing this? I'm running latest prod 
 version of Mavericks

Re: Setting pdf Files to Open in Preview?

2014-05-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
That's the odd thing. Preview is indicated as the default application to open 
pdf files. Safari always openens them from a link, though. Thanks forthe tips, 
guys. I can definitely work around it.

Thanks,
Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On May 31, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Adrienne Chalmers aschalm...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You should be able to get your Mac to open all files of a particular type 
 from the information window. If you can't see that option, try checking some  
 disclosure triangles.
 
 Once you have found the open with  bit in the information window, it's a 
 really long way down, you choose to open the particular pdf you have selected 
 with  a choice of applications from a pop up. It will ask you if you want to 
 open all pdf files with that application. That should be it.
 
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Re: Audio description app for IOS

2014-05-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
I'm going to check it out. If they have some titles with English subtitles, I'd 
like to see what those are all about.

Teresa

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 On May 30, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yes Philomena is still the only one they have. I want to watch that 
 particular film so will use it, but it's a shame there's nothing else.
 
 On 31/05/2014, at 3:01 pm, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I could be wrong but, the last time I looked the only movie available wit 
 the movie reading app is Filamena. I kept looking for a long time because I 
 felt this was a very promising app. I hoped that I would be able to use this 
 app to listen along side without disturbing sighted folks who were not 
 watching the described version on the DVD.
 On May 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 From what I got from a post about this app through the Viphone list, yes it 
 does both.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 sorry about that; I was in error. It was misleading, because the 
 description of the app mentions subtitles. I admit that I'm now confused. 
 Does it do both subtitles and audio description?
 
 Teresa
 
 The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I don't think this app is for audio description. I think it's for reading 
 subtitles in various languages. That is interesting to me, but not 
 descriptive audio.
 
 Teresa
 
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is called movie reading 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 Please can somebody tell me what the app is called for iThingies which 
 has the descriptive tracks for movies which gets triggered by the sound 
 track to speak at the right points in the film. I've looked on Applevis 
 under audio description, and also on Google but can't seem to find it.
 Many thanks.
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Re: Audio description app for IOS

2014-05-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
I was doing some poking around, and noticed a lot of audio-described movies 
when I put DVS inthe search field on the app store. I haven't checked out tv 
shows yet.

Teresa

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 On May 31, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wish it had the option to have audio description for tv shows instead of 
 theater only, considering the fact that people want to know what's happening 
 on the shows they're watching as well, and it can be a pain in the kneck to 
 set your TV up in order to have audio description, and not everybody wants to 
 hear it.
 On May 31, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Jamie Tachiyama jathlet...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree, it was a disappointment.
 
 
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 On May 30, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yes Philomena is still the only one they have. I want to watch that 
 particular film so will use it, but it's a shame there's nothing else.
 
 On 31/05/2014, at 3:01 pm, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I could be wrong but, the last time I looked the only movie available wit 
 the movie reading app is Filamena. I kept looking for a long time because 
 I felt this was a very promising app. I hoped that I would be able to use 
 this app to listen along side without disturbing sighted folks who were 
 not watching the described version on the DVD.
 On May 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 From what I got from a post about this app through the Viphone list, yes 
 it does both.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 sorry about that; I was in error. It was misleading, because the 
 description of the app mentions subtitles. I admit that I'm now 
 confused. Does it do both subtitles and audio description?
 
 Teresa
 
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 On May 30, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I don't think this app is for audio description. I think it's for 
 reading subtitles in various languages. That is interesting to me, but 
 not descriptive audio.
 
 Teresa
 
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is called movie reading 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 Please can somebody tell me what the app is called for iThingies 
 which has the descriptive tracks for movies which gets triggered by 
 the sound track to speak at the right points in the film. I've looked 
 on Applevis under audio description, and also on Google but can't 
 seem to find it.
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Re: Setting pdf Files to Open in Preview?

2014-05-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
Good thought. Thanks, Tim, I'll give that a try.

Teresa

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 On May 31, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This should actually have nothing to do with Mavericks.  When you install 
 Adobe Reader, it likes to take over things.  Normally, you need to remove the 
 Adobe Plugin from your /Library/Internet Plugins folder in order to stop 
 Adobe Reader from doing this.  At least in previous versions of the MacOS, 
 this was the case.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 10:37 PM, Venkatesh Potluri venky...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Starting with mavericks, opening PDFs has not been accessible for me.
 All the PDFs open in the adobe plugin. For this to happen, I have to
 click some where in the centre of the screen and tell safari to trust
 the website. How do I get safari to open PDFs like before?
 I hope I made my concern clear.
 Thanks,
 Venkatesh Potluri
 
 On 5/31/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 Ah well, it's really no biggy. :) I was just wondering if I was missing
 something, and, yes, hoping the teeniest little bit. :) thanks for the
 pointers.
 
 Teresa
 
 Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P.
 Feynman
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The pdf file type is supported inline with Safari. Just like you don't
 have every image JPEG open in a graphics program, so  is it with PDFs.
 There used to be a setting in Snow Leopard that allowed Safari to open PDF
 files in Preview, but that got cut with Lion, as I recall. I also miss
 this feature.
 
 What I tend to do, is actually have Safari open the pdf, then I use the
 contextual menu on the pdf to open in preview.  This eliminates the need
 for the download and open.  It's a little faster than the way you
 describe, and you don't have to clean up your downloads folder.  If you
 wish to actually save the pdf locally, you can do a save as from preview
 and put it where ever you want.
 
 I know it's not the answer you were hoping for.
 
 Best,
 --k
 
 Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
 questions.
 
 
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, folk,
 
 I've been looking at ways to have pdfs open in Preview instead of Safari.
 I can press option-enter on the link to download the file, then open it
 from downloads. I've looked in the info window, but it says that pdfs
 open with preview. I next reviewed settings in Preview preferences, but
 couldn't find anything related to viewing in Safari. Is there a setting
 I'm missing, or will I need to use the option-enter method?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Setting pdf Files to Open in Preview?

2014-05-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
I don't have access to my computer right now, but there's an option in 
preferences that says open safe files after downloading. You might try that.

Teresa

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 On May 30, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Venkatesh Potluri venky...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Starting with mavericks, opening PDFs has not been accessible for me.
 All the PDFs open in the adobe plugin. For this to happen, I have to
 click some where in the centre of the screen and tell safari to trust
 the website. How do I get safari to open PDFs like before?
 I hope I made my concern clear.
 Thanks,
 Venkatesh Potluri
 
 On 5/31/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 Ah well, it's really no biggy. :) I was just wondering if I was missing
 something, and, yes, hoping the teeniest little bit. :) thanks for the
 pointers.
 
 Teresa
 
 Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P.
 Feynman
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The pdf file type is supported inline with Safari. Just like you don't
 have every image JPEG open in a graphics program, so  is it with PDFs.
 There used to be a setting in Snow Leopard that allowed Safari to open PDF
 files in Preview, but that got cut with Lion, as I recall. I also miss
 this feature.
 
 What I tend to do, is actually have Safari open the pdf, then I use the
 contextual menu on the pdf to open in preview.  This eliminates the need
 for the download and open.  It's a little faster than the way you
 describe, and you don't have to clean up your downloads folder.  If you
 wish to actually save the pdf locally, you can do a save as from preview
 and put it where ever you want.
 
 I know it's not the answer you were hoping for.
 
 Best,
 --k
 
 Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
 questions.
 
 
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, folk,
 
 I've been looking at ways to have pdfs open in Preview instead of Safari.
 I can press option-enter on the link to download the file, then open it
 from downloads. I've looked in the info window, but it says that pdfs
 open with preview. I next reviewed settings in Preview preferences, but
 couldn't find anything related to viewing in Safari. Is there a setting
 I'm missing, or will I need to use the option-enter method?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: how to get vo to stop saying an anoying phrase?

2014-05-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
I don't know of any way to do this. I think it's announcing the text contained 
in an HtML message, but not sure.

Teresa

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On May 30, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 I want to know  too please.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 09:18 am, Kliphton --- kliph...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Okay, every since mavericks,, when   in a group or thread of messages, 
 voice over says inbeded  I have been  all l threw the verbosity, settings, 
 and announcements of voice over butcan't seem to get this to stop.  It 
 only happens when I am in a  conversation, and go to the next message, and 
 before reading the message, it says inbededHow canI stop 
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Setting pdf Files to Open in Preview?

2014-05-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, folk,

I've been looking at ways to have pdfs open in Preview instead of Safari. I can 
press option-enter on the link to download the file, then open it from 
downloads. I've looked in the info window, but it says that pdfs open with 
preview. I next reviewed settings in Preview preferences, but couldn't find 
anything related to viewing in Safari. Is there a setting I'm missing, or will 
I need to use the option-enter method?

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: Braille display and NVDA

2014-05-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
I believe you've got the wrong list. You posted it to the Mac Visionaries List.

HtH,
teresa

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On May 30, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:

   Soon I will use the braille display connected to Windows 7 using the NVDA 
 screen reader.
 
   I would like to know if the list of commands given for braille displays is 
 complete or if there are any listed commands that do not work or any that are 
 missing from the list.
 
   I ask this so that once I get going, I won't run into any problems. Thanks.
 
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Re: Setting pdf Files to Open in Preview?

2014-05-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ah well, it's really no biggy. :) I was just wondering if I was missing 
something, and, yes, hoping the teeniest little bit. :) thanks for the pointers.

Teresa

Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman

On May 30, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Kayaker sea...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 The pdf file type is supported inline with Safari. Just like you don't have 
 every image JPEG open in a graphics program, so  is it with PDFs. There used 
 to be a setting in Snow Leopard that allowed Safari to open PDF files in 
 Preview, but that got cut with Lion, as I recall. I also miss this feature.
 
 What I tend to do, is actually have Safari open the pdf, then I use the 
 contextual menu on the pdf to open in preview.  This eliminates the need for 
 the download and open.  It's a little faster than the way you describe, and 
 you don't have to clean up your downloads folder.  If you wish to actually 
 save the pdf locally, you can do a save as from preview and put it where ever 
 you want.
 
 I know it's not the answer you were hoping for.
 
 Best,
 --k
 
 Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
 questions.
 
 
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, folk,
 
 I've been looking at ways to have pdfs open in Preview instead of Safari. I 
 can press option-enter on the link to download the file, then open it from 
 downloads. I've looked in the info window, but it says that pdfs open with 
 preview. I next reviewed settings in Preview preferences, but couldn't find 
 anything related to viewing in Safari. Is there a setting I'm missing, or 
 will I need to use the option-enter method?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: how to get vo to stop saying an annoying phrase?

2014-05-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
You could create a VO activity just for Mail to stop the announcement. Wouldn't 
that work?

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On May 30, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 This one is kind of frustrating either way.  The setting you need to adjust 
 is in the Verbosity pane in the Text tab.  If you have VO set to speak the 
 word for Links and attachments, then the Embedded is announced.  So, 
 modifying that setting to Do Nothing will stop the announcement of 
 Embedded but you'll also not know if something is a link and such when on a 
 web-page.  Setting it to Tone will stop it from saying embedded as well, 
 but you'll hear some clicking sounds instead.  The best one I've found is 
 setting it to Change Pitch, thus when links and such are spoken, the pitch 
 will drop down a bit to that sexy deep voiced guy, or some manly sounding 
 girl, when links and attachments are encountered.  These appear to be your 
 choices.  Pick your preference.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I don't know of any way to do this. I think it's announcing the text 
 contained in an HtML message, but not sure.
 
 Teresa
 
 The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I want to know  too please.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 09:18 am, Kliphton --- kliph...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Okay, every since mavericks,, when   in a group or thread of messages, 
 voice over says inbeded  I have been  all l threw the verbosity, 
 settings, and announcements of voice over butcan't seem to get this to 
 stop.  It only happens when I am in a  conversation, and go to the next 
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Re: Audio description app for IOS

2014-05-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
I don't think this app is for audio description. I think it's for reading 
subtitles in various languages. That is interesting to me, but not descriptive 
audio.

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On May 30, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is called movie reading 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 Please can somebody tell me what the app is called for iThingies which has 
 the descriptive tracks for movies which gets triggered by the sound track to 
 speak at the right points in the film. I've looked on Applevis under audio 
 description, and also on Google but can't seem to find it.
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Re: Audio description app for IOS

2014-05-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
sorry about that; I was in error. It was misleading, because the description of 
the app mentions subtitles. I admit that I'm now confused. Does it do both 
subtitles and audio description?

Teresa

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On May 30, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 I don't think this app is for audio description. I think it's for reading 
 subtitles in various languages. That is interesting to me, but not 
 descriptive audio.
 
 Teresa
 
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is called movie reading 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 Please can somebody tell me what the app is called for iThingies which has 
 the descriptive tracks for movies which gets triggered by the sound track 
 to speak at the right points in the film. I've looked on Applevis under 
 audio description, and also on Google but can't seem to find it.
 Many thanks.
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Getting my iPod to Appear Reliably in the iTunes Sources List?

2014-05-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

This is a curious question prompted by something that's been nagging for 
awhile. I have iTunes WiFi sync turned on for my iPod Touch 5. When it's 
plugged into my mac, it's reliably present in the iTunes sources list. When I 
need to unplug it, I press command-e to eject it. At this point it disappears 
from the sources list and reappears randomly. Is this a bug, or is there a way 
to ensure that it will always be in the sources list?

Thanks,
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Re: Mail Mate

2014-05-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
It's pretty good, but not perfect. I found that the glitches in accessibility 
were not something I wanted to deal with, but that's just me. I hope others 
find it useful.

Teresa

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 This might be old news for some, but I just discovered a mail client called 
 mail mate.
 
 You can download a 30 day trial from
 http://dl.mailmate-app.com/MailMate.tbz
 
 From my short time playing with it, it seems to be very accessible.
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Re: new to the list

2014-05-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
Welcome to the list. I've found it quite helpful, and people on the list are 
generally very knowledgeable. I switched in 2010 and never looked back, except 
for the occasional use of my husband's Windows laptop, on which I installed 
nVDA.

It sounds like you have a lot to contribute to the list. Looking forward to 
hearing from you on various topics.

take care,
Teresa

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On May 29, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Carlos Taylor cetayl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.  My name is Carlos Taylor and I'm new to the list.  I thought
 I would join the list to pick up any tips and tricks of VoiceOver and
 the Mac.  However, I'm not entirely new to the Mac.  I'm composing
 this message using a 2008 iMac at work.  In fact, I was in the
 AppleSeed program beta testing os 10.4 tiger, so I got to see
 VoiceOver in its infancy.  It has really grown and matured since then.
 I even purchased a Mac Mini, but it was soon made obsolete when Apple
 switched to Intel processors.  I'm planning to purchase a new Mac Mini
 later this year.  Until then, I'll keep using Macs at work whenever
 possible.  I'm also waiting to receive a 13-inch MacBook air to
 replace a 6-year-old Windows XP based laptop for work.  I oversee
 technology for students and faculty with disabilities at a mid-sized
 public university.  I work with faculty and students using both Macs
 and PCs, so I am trying to keep myself up-to-date in the Apple world.
 I have been a long-time user of Window-Eyes and more recently, NVDA.
 I've been an iPhone user since the summer of 2009, when Apple first
 included VoiceOver on the iOS platform.  Going back even further, one
 of  the first computers I used as a child was an apple 2e at school.
 At home, we first had a commodor 64 then later got an apple 2gs.  So
 that's a little about me.  I look forward to learning what I can from
 the list.
 
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Apple Hardware Test and Voiceover?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I've had a chronic optical-drive issue and was curious if AHT would help me 
out. Let's just say that the drive even spits out the cleaning disk, even after 
many restarts and NVrAM resets, etc. Is it accessible? Any pointers you can 
give would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
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Re: Apple Hardware Test and Voiceover?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
I suspected as much, but thought since the installer uses voiceover, there 
might be a chance. Thanks.

teresa

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wrote:

 I don't think so as it runs before Os X.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
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 Hi, all,
 
 I've had a chronic optical-drive issue and was curious if AHT would help me 
 out. Let's just say that the drive even spits out the cleaning disk, even 
 after many restarts and NVrAM resets, etc. Is it accessible? Any pointers 
 you can give would be greatly appreciated.
 
 thanks,
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, alex,

Basically, a program like this would introduce various sets of letters as you 
go from lesson to lesson. Then it would verbally tell you what to type, along 
with a magnified command for those with low vision. It would buzz and not let 
you proceed until you got it right. It would include some games, such as typing 
dictation or typing letters faster and faster as they appeared.

Hth,
teresa

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On May 27, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 Feel free to give them my email address. I don't have a lot of experience, 
 but I know what I'm doing with Objective-C, Xcode, and Cocoa. If nothing 
 else, I could offer advice or prototypes.
 On May 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Katie Zodrow kzodrow...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Eileen. I know it would be great if Yes Accessible had a Mac version of 
 Typeability now. David would like to work on it, but he doesn't know how to 
 program for the Mac. I think the only thing they need is a developer. 
 They're looking for someone that knows how to create apps with Voiceover.
 Katie
 
 On May 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 
 Thanks Katie for jogging my memory. I got the first part, but not the last. 
 This app was recommended by another AT trainer here in CA. The app is being 
 used throughout lower and higher education. I'm glad to hear that a Mac 
 version will be released soon. The developer previously was employed with 
 Dancing Dots. Just some FYI.
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 27, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Katie Zodrow kzodrow...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and interactive 
 called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom and step father 
 David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that sells the typing 
 program. You can visit their website at www.yesaccessible.com to get more 
 info about it. They will be creating a version of this for the Mac soon.
 Katie
 On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  
 I am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer 
 from APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing 
 program that works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate 
 your help!
 
 Thanks,
 Jeremiah
 
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ah yes, be careful. LOL It might be fun, though. I taught lots of people to 
type with the help of Talking Typer, so these are very useful applications. 
I've even played the games on them myself from time to time. So I'd definitely 
get one for the Mac to practice with myself. The tag line in this email comes 
from something i blurted out to a student when he was going nowhere by typing 
too fast in Talking Typer. We both laughed a over it. :)

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On May 27, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 Katie, I have emailed them, thanks.
 
 Teresa, that does make sense. It seems reasonably simple to make, though 
 seems is the operative word.
 On May 27, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, alex,
 
 Basically, a program like this would introduce various sets of letters as 
 you go from lesson to lesson. Then it would verbally tell you what to type, 
 along with a magnified command for those with low vision. It would buzz and 
 not let you proceed until you got it right. It would include some games, 
 such as typing dictation or typing letters faster and faster as they 
 appeared.
 
 Hth,
 teresa
 
 Visualize whirled peas.
 
 On May 27, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Feel free to give them my email address. I don't have a lot of experience, 
 but I know what I'm doing with Objective-C, Xcode, and Cocoa. If nothing 
 else, I could offer advice or prototypes.
 On May 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Katie Zodrow kzodrow...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Eileen. I know it would be great if Yes Accessible had a Mac version 
 of Typeability now. David would like to work on it, but he doesn't know 
 how to program for the Mac. I think the only thing they need is a 
 developer. They're looking for someone that knows how to create apps with 
 Voiceover.
 Katie
 
 On May 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 
 Thanks Katie for jogging my memory. I got the first part, but not the 
 last. This app was recommended by another AT trainer here in CA. The app 
 is being used throughout lower and higher education. I'm glad to hear 
 that a Mac version will be released soon. The developer previously was 
 employed with Dancing Dots. Just some FYI.
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 27, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Katie Zodrow kzodrow...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and 
 interactive called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom 
 and step father David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that 
 sells the typing program. You can visit their website at 
 www.yesaccessible.com to get more info about it. They will be creating a 
 version of this for the Mac soon.
 Katie
 On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the 
 Mac.  I am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking 
 Typer from APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good 
 typing program that works well with VO please let me know.  I really 
 appreciate your help!
 
 Thanks,
 Jeremiah
 
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 Assistive Technology Specialist
 Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
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Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille Lite 
40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite with 
the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, just in 
case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a way to do 
this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being updated that would 
allow me to do this?

just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
foreseeable future.

Thanks,
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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Chris. I'll definitely look into this.

Teresa

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On May 27, 2014, at 2:19 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Apparently the screen command can do this:
 
 http://serverfault.com/questions/81544/hidden-features-of-screen/81548#81548
 
 From terminal you can do 
 
 man screen
 
 for more details. That is, if the ancient ZTerm ever stops working. Been a 
 long time since I played with PPP to get USENet feeds via UUCP for my BBS.
 
 CB
 
 On 5/27/14, 4:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 Hi, all,
 
 I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille 
 Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
 communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite 
 with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, 
 just in case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a 
 way to do this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being 
 updated that would allow me to do this?
 
 just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
 with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
 also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
 foreseeable future.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Check with Freedom scientific for accessories. Otherwise, they might be sold on 
EBay. You'll definitely need a uSB0to-serial adapter. I think the model I use 
is discontinued. It's the Keyspan USAH98, I believe. I bet those will disappear 
in time, too

Teresa.

Teresa

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On May 27, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am about to do the same. In the good old days I used minicom. I see I can 
 still use it. There are a few choices discussed here.
 
 http://pbxbook.com/other/mac-tty.html
 
 I need a lead. Typical BrailleLite's use non standard cables. Can I still get 
 one? If so, from where?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Gena
 On 27 May 2014, at 21:33, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille 
 Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
 communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite 
 with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, 
 just in case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a 
 way to do this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being 
 updated that would allow me to do this?
 
 just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
 with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
 also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
 foreseeable future.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Terminal commands, wasRe: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
 Oh, I like those. :) I'm going to have to try those to put in my tag line. I 
only have the same eight being randomized, so I need more.

Teresa

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On May 27, 2014, at 8:27 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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 Back in the day there was also the 'fortune' command which I noticed is still 
 available from MacPorts as well. Outputs old time sayings like:
 
 A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake 
 without ketchup and mustard.
 There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result.
 -- Churchill
 It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
 -- Groucho Marx
 
 CB
 
 On 5/27/14, 7:40 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 I use the commands from the lrzsz sackage from the command line, installed 
 via macports.
 
 As for the cable, as the end that goes into the braillelite is the 
 non-standard part of the serial cable, the last time I checked Freedom 
 Scientific still had them but that was a while ago. For the usb cable, I 
 have used keyspan and prolific but the last time I checked I could install 
 the prolific driver on the Mac but not the keyspan. Of course it attaches to 
 the serial cable and you end up with a /dev/usbserial device name.
 
 
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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 On May 27, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am about to do the same. In the good old days I used minicom. I see I can 
 still use it. There are a few choices discussed here.
 
 http://pbxbook.com/other/mac-tty.html
 
 I need a lead. Typical BrailleLite's use non standard cables. Can I still 
 get one? If so, from where?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Gena
 On 27 May 2014, at 21:33, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi, all,
 
 I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille 
 Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
 communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite 
 with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, 
 just in case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there 
 a way to do this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being 
 updated that would allow me to do this?
 
 just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is 
 compatible with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker 
 features. i also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy 
 it for the foreseeable future.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Keyboard Layout Different in login Screen: How to Change?

2014-05-26 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, folks,

I have an Amazon Basics usB keyboard, which I use with my 2009 Mac Mini. Within 
my user account, I switched two keys, so that the command key is next to the 
spacebar and the option key is next to it. They are the other way around by 
default. In the login screen, the keys revert to their default behavior. I'm 
wondering if there's a way to change the keyboard settings for the login screen.

thanks,
Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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Re: Typing On The IPhone's On-Screen Keyboard

2014-05-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
I feel completely comfortable typing on my iPod with the onscreen keyboard. I 
don't think it's a practical way to do a lot of typing, as in editing 
documents, at least not for me. it will always be significantly slower than a 
keyboard. For most everyday uses, such as entering passwords and typing 
messages, it works just fine for me. I use touch typing mode. When I do a lot 
of editing, I use my Braille display keyboard. If I didn't have a braille 
display, I'd get a Bluetooth keyboard.
Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On May 25, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

 I've been typing on the onscreen keyboard for months. I use it over fleksy bc 
 I can enter anything I want. I pt the iPod on a flat surface and type with my 
 pointer finger. I am, however, still slow. 
 
 On May 25, 2014, at 14:03, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the 
 on-screen keyboard of the iPhone.  Personally, I don't particularly like to 
 use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy.  I 
 just want to use the regular keyboard.  Dictation can be useful, but of 
 course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively 
 privately.  I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would 
 like to get faster.  I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my 
 right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is 
 at the bottom of the phone.  I'm interested to know how others who type 
 using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text.  I do happen to use 
 Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you 
 use.  And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen 
 keyboard for their typing needs?
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Changing ownership of my MBP

2014-05-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
You can go to System Preferences in the Apple menu, then choose users and 
groups. Find your brother's account in the 'users, groups and login options 
list. If you're an administrator, at this point, you can stop interacting with 
this list and press VO-end to navigate all the way down to the click the lock 
to make changes control. This is where you'll find out if you're an 
administrator, because you'll have to press this button, then enter your 
account password to make changes. Then the delete user button should be 
available.

HtH,
Teresa

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 I inherited my MBP from my brother-in-law. He had a number of programs on it 
 already and though I made myself the administrator, or at least I think I 
 did, his Apple account still shows up in the app store updates. How do I get 
 his presence totally off this computer without having to reload Mavericks?
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Re: Changing ownership of my MBP

2014-05-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oops, that command is VO-shift-end, not VO-end.

Teresa

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On May 23, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 You can go to System Preferences in the Apple menu, then choose users and 
 groups. Find your brother's account in the 'users, groups and login options 
 list. If you're an administrator, at this point, you can stop interacting 
 with this list and press VO-end to navigate all the way down to the click 
 the lock to make changes control. This is where you'll find out if you're an 
 administrator, because you'll have to press this button, then enter your 
 account password to make changes. Then the delete user button should be 
 available.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
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 already and though I made myself the administrator, or at least I think I 
 did, his Apple account still shows up in the app store updates. How do I get 
 his presence totally off this computer without having to reload Mavericks?
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Re: capchas on osx?

2014-05-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, it was just a little tricky to set up, but once I got it set up, I've had 
no problems with it. I guess I'm lucky. :)

teresa

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On May 23, 2014, at 3:31 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

  One thing to remember is you have to log into the account every once in a 
 while.  I've noticed that it stops working until I log into my account again.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On May 23, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I have used this captcha solution with rumola for over year and have had no 
 problems. I also had no major problem setting it up and it has maintained 
 the setup through upgrades but since I did it that longgo maybe it is more 
 difficult now. I am not discounting the problems people have with it, but I 
 have been quite pleased with it.
 
 
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 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 On May 23, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Alex.
 
 I am happy that I am not alone with this problem. I can not get rumola set 
 up correct, and now it has even stopped speaking.
 
 It would be nice if we could use web visum and firefox on the mac, but 
 firefox is slow and difficult to work with.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 23/05/2014 kl. 00.00 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 You get ten free solves before they want you to pay, and I am not sure how 
 they solve captchas. However, it is really difficult to set up, at least 
 it was for me, and the only tutorial on their website is, in a word, 
 terrible. I had it set up once, but lost it after I reformatted my 
 computer. Honestly, at this point, I just grab a sighted person or do a 
 screen-sharing/remote control session with someone to solve them.
 On May 22, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Doesn't that option cost?  And, if they use humans to solve captchas, 
 won't it suffer the same fate as Salona?
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On May 22, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try Rumola at
 www.skipinput.com
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
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 Hello what is every one using to get around capchas on osx?
 I have about had it with trying to use firefox with webvism on windows
 and am wanting to know what every one is using on the macintosh 
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Re: Screenshots

2014-05-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
Also, if you have keyboard commander enabled, and use scripts to control 
Voiceover, you can use right-option-x to take a screen-shot of the contents of 
the VO cursor. this also attaches the screenshot to a new mail message, which 
you can send to whichever recipient you wish.

HtH,
teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On May 23, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 Google told me a way to only capture the active window. Note that I haven't 
 confirmed with a sighted person that this works, but it should.
 
 1. Open the window of which you want a screenshot. This will capture only 
 that window, not *everything* on your screen.
 2. Press cmd-shift-4, then the spacebar. No other keys are held down with 
 space.
 3. Move the mouse to the window you want. I just started with the window 
 already opened, then used vo-cmd-f5 to route the mouse there after pressing 
 space.
 4. Click the mouse (vo-shift-space) and the screenshot will appear on your 
 desktop, labeled as the date and time it was taken.
 On May 23, 2014, at 9:32 PM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 If they are already checked under keyboard shortcuts in Keyboard in system 
 pref's!
 Screen shot to desk top [Command+shift+3]
 Screen shot to clip board [Control+command+shift+3]
 HTH Colin
 
 Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
 
 On 24 May 2014, at 02:23, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 Can someone please give me the keystrokes on my Mac to take a screenshot of 
 a webpage in order to insert it into an email? Would appreciate any help. 
 I'm going round and round with the company that I believe has committed 
 fraudulent advertising. I want to show them a screenshot of their website 
 within the body of my email.
 
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