Re: A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-09 Thread Scott Granados
I have seen this bug a few times but not sure exactly what causes it.  I have 
definitely not seen the screen lock on certain occasions.  The screen does dim 
though so the battery should drain less but the security issues are very real.

> On Nov 7, 2015, at 9:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries mailing
> list.
> 
> SUMMARY:
> One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
> multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is enabled,
> receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
> display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered this
> same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as opposed
> to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message
> alerts, only.
> 
> This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
> upon the level of the screen brightness.
> 
> SCENARIO:
> 1.
> Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to
> quickly unlock the device.
> 
> 2.
> Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you can
> see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen.
> 
> 3.
> Now lock the screen.
> 
> 4.
> Receive a text message from someone.  
> 
> 5.
> If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
> giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.
> 
> CONCLUSION:
> Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off until
> activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
> will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert is
> dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so alerts.
> However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as the
> screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
> collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
> reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.
> 
> My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for my
> most frequently used apps.
> 
> Mark
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Re: A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-08 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I can confirm Daniels reply.
No problems here.
Wonder if its some hardware glitch or something?
/A
> On 08 Nov 2015, at 05:43, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Weird, that didn’t happen on my 6 Plus or 6S Plus. Strange.
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I actually agree with Mark. I have had this happen on my iPhone 5C running 
>> iOS 9.1.
>> 
>> Gabe
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> I’m sorry to inform you, you’re 100% incorrect about this bug. If I have my 
>>> messages or any type of alert set to show on the lock screen, my screen 
>>> always wakes up, and goes to sleep at the appropriate time.
>>> 
 On Nov 7, 2015, at 8:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries 
 mailing
 list.
 
 SUMMARY:
 One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
 multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is enabled,
 receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
 display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered this
 same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as opposed
 to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message
 alerts, only.
 
 This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
 upon the level of the screen brightness.
 
 SCENARIO:
 1.
 Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to
 quickly unlock the device.
 
 2.
 Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you 
 can
 see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen.
 
 3.
 Now lock the screen.
 
 4.
 Receive a text message from someone.  
 
 5.
 If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
 giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.
 
 CONCLUSION:
 Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off until
 activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
 will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert is
 dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so alerts.
 However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as the
 screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
 collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
 reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.
 
 My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for my
 most frequently used apps.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-08 Thread Jeff Berwick
I have been experiencing this since I upgraded to IOS 9 and, it is 
intermittent. 
> On Nov 8, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I have not seen this although I have no vision so I would not know if my 
> screen was awake or not.  However, my battery on my phone is lasting four 
> days and that is letting the battery run out completely.  I am using an I 
> phone 6 S Plus.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 8 Nov 2015, at 22:57, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I can confirm Daniels reply.
>> No problems here.
>> Wonder if its some hardware glitch or something?
>> /A
>>> On 08 Nov 2015, at 05:43, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Weird, that didn’t happen on my 6 Plus or 6S Plus. Strange.
>>> 
 On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Gabe Griffith  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I actually agree with Mark. I have had this happen on my iPhone 5C running 
 iOS 9.1.
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I’m sorry to inform you, you’re 100% incorrect about this bug. If I have 
> my messages or any type of alert set to show on the lock screen, my 
> screen always wakes up, and goes to sleep at the appropriate time.
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 8:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries 
>> mailing
>> list.
>> 
>> SUMMARY:
>> One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
>> multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is 
>> enabled,
>> receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
>> display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered this
>> same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as 
>> opposed
>> to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message
>> alerts, only.
>> 
>> This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
>> upon the level of the screen brightness.
>> 
>> SCENARIO:
>> 1.
>> Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to
>> quickly unlock the device.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you 
>> can
>> see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Now lock the screen.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Receive a text message from someone.  
>> 
>> 5.
>> If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
>> giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.
>> 
>> CONCLUSION:
>> Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off 
>> until
>> activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
>> will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert 
>> is
>> dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so 
>> alerts.
>> However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as 
>> the
>> screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
>> collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
>> reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.
>> 
>> My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for 
>> my
>> most frequently used apps.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-08 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I have not seen this although I have no vision so I would not know if my screen 
was awake or not.  However, my battery on my phone is lasting four days and 
that is letting the battery run out completely.  I am using an I phone 6 S Plus.

Kawal.
> On 8 Nov 2015, at 22:57, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I can confirm Daniels reply.
> No problems here.
> Wonder if its some hardware glitch or something?
> /A
>> On 08 Nov 2015, at 05:43, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Weird, that didn’t happen on my 6 Plus or 6S Plus. Strange.
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Gabe Griffith  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I actually agree with Mark. I have had this happen on my iPhone 5C running 
>>> iOS 9.1.
>>> 
>>> Gabe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Mark,
 
 I’m sorry to inform you, you’re 100% incorrect about this bug. If I have 
 my messages or any type of alert set to show on the lock screen, my screen 
 always wakes up, and goes to sleep at the appropriate time.
 
> On Nov 7, 2015, at 8:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries 
> mailing
> list.
> 
> SUMMARY:
> One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
> multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is 
> enabled,
> receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
> display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered this
> same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as opposed
> to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message
> alerts, only.
> 
> This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
> upon the level of the screen brightness.
> 
> SCENARIO:
> 1.
> Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to
> quickly unlock the device.
> 
> 2.
> Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you 
> can
> see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen.
> 
> 3.
> Now lock the screen.
> 
> 4.
> Receive a text message from someone.  
> 
> 5.
> If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
> giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.
> 
> CONCLUSION:
> Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off 
> until
> activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
> will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert 
> is
> dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so 
> alerts.
> However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as the
> screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
> collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
> reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.
> 
> My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for my
> most frequently used apps.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-08 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i have a news about the facebook apps having a battery issue on iPhone, so 
upgrade that too.
> Il giorno 09 nov 2015, alle ore 2:27 AM, Jeff Berwick 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> I have been experiencing this since I upgraded to IOS 9 and, it is 
> intermittent. 
>> On Nov 8, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not seen this although I have no vision so I would not know if my 
>> screen was awake or not.  However, my battery on my phone is lasting four 
>> days and that is letting the battery run out completely.  I am using an I 
>> phone 6 S Plus.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 8 Nov 2015, at 22:57, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I can confirm Daniels reply.
>>> No problems here.
>>> Wonder if its some hardware glitch or something?
>>> /A
 On 08 Nov 2015, at 05:43, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
 Weird, that didn’t happen on my 6 Plus or 6S Plus. Strange.
 
> On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Gabe Griffith  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I actually agree with Mark. I have had this happen on my iPhone 5C 
> running iOS 9.1.
> 
> Gabe
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> I’m sorry to inform you, you’re 100% incorrect about this bug. If I have 
>> my messages or any type of alert set to show on the lock screen, my 
>> screen always wakes up, and goes to sleep at the appropriate time.
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 8:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries 
>>> mailing
>>> list.
>>> 
>>> SUMMARY:
>>> One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
>>> multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is 
>>> enabled,
>>> receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
>>> display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered 
>>> this
>>> same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as 
>>> opposed
>>> to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text 
>>> message
>>> alerts, only.
>>> 
>>> This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
>>> upon the level of the screen brightness.
>>> 
>>> SCENARIO:
>>> 1.
>>> Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order 
>>> to
>>> quickly unlock the device.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain 
>>> you can
>>> see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Now lock the screen.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Receive a text message from someone.  
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
>>> giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.
>>> 
>>> CONCLUSION:
>>> Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off 
>>> until
>>> activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
>>> will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the 
>>> alert is
>>> dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so 
>>> alerts.
>>> However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as 
>>> the
>>> screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
>>> collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
>>> reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for 
>>> my
>>> most frequently used apps.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-07 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

SUMMARY:
One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is enabled,
receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered this
same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as opposed
to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message
alerts, only.

This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
upon the level of the screen brightness.

SCENARIO:
1.
Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to
quickly unlock the device.

2.
Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you can
see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen.

3.
Now lock the screen.

4.
Receive a text message from someone.  

5.
If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.

CONCLUSION:
Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off until
activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert is
dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so alerts.
However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as the
screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.

My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for my
most frequently used apps.

Mark

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Re: A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-07 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi Mark,

I’m sorry to inform you, you’re 100% incorrect about this bug. If I have my 
messages or any type of alert set to show on the lock screen, my screen always 
wakes up, and goes to sleep at the appropriate time.

> On Nov 7, 2015, at 8:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries mailing
> list.
> 
> SUMMARY:
> One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
> multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is enabled,
> receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
> display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered this
> same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as opposed
> to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message
> alerts, only.
> 
> This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
> upon the level of the screen brightness.
> 
> SCENARIO:
> 1.
> Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to
> quickly unlock the device.
> 
> 2.
> Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you can
> see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen.
> 
> 3.
> Now lock the screen.
> 
> 4.
> Receive a text message from someone.  
> 
> 5.
> If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
> giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.
> 
> CONCLUSION:
> Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off until
> activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
> will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert is
> dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so alerts.
> However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as the
> screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
> collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
> reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.
> 
> My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for my
> most frequently used apps.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-07 Thread Gabe Griffith
Hi,

I actually agree with Mark. I have had this happen on my iPhone 5C running iOS 
9.1.

Gabe


On Nov 7, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> I’m sorry to inform you, you’re 100% incorrect about this bug. If I have my 
> messages or any type of alert set to show on the lock screen, my screen 
> always wakes up, and goes to sleep at the appropriate time.
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 8:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries mailing
>> list.
>> 
>> SUMMARY:
>> One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
>> multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is enabled,
>> receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
>> display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered this
>> same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as opposed
>> to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message
>> alerts, only.
>> 
>> This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
>> upon the level of the screen brightness.
>> 
>> SCENARIO:
>> 1.
>> Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to
>> quickly unlock the device.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you can
>> see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Now lock the screen.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Receive a text message from someone.  
>> 
>> 5.
>> If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
>> giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.
>> 
>> CONCLUSION:
>> Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off until
>> activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
>> will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert is
>> dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so alerts.
>> However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as the
>> screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
>> collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
>> reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.
>> 
>> My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for my
>> most frequently used apps.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-07 Thread E.T.

Daniel,
   Not at all weird when you consider a point that Mark had made. And 
that is., this issue is intermittent.


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On 11/7/2015 8:43 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Weird, that didn’t happen on my 6 Plus or 6S Plus. Strange.


On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:

Hi,

I actually agree with Mark. I have had this happen on my iPhone 5C running iOS 
9.1.

Gabe


On Nov 7, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:


Hi Mark,

I’m sorry to inform you, you’re 100% incorrect about this bug. If I have my 
messages or any type of alert set to show on the lock screen, my screen always 
wakes up, and goes to sleep at the appropriate time.


On Nov 7, 2015, at 8:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

SUMMARY:
One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is enabled,
receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered this
same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as opposed
to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message
alerts, only.

This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
upon the level of the screen brightness.

SCENARIO:
1.
Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to
quickly unlock the device.

2.
Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you can
see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen.

3.
Now lock the screen.

4.
Receive a text message from someone.

5.
If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.

CONCLUSION:
Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off until
activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert is
dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so alerts.
However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as the
screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.

My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for my
most frequently used apps.

Mark

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Re: A Definite Battery Drainer in iOS 9.1 of Which to Be Aware

2015-11-07 Thread Daniel Miller
Weird, that didn’t happen on my 6 Plus or 6S Plus. Strange.

> On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I actually agree with Mark. I have had this happen on my iPhone 5C running 
> iOS 9.1.
> 
> Gabe
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> I’m sorry to inform you, you’re 100% incorrect about this bug. If I have my 
>> messages or any type of alert set to show on the lock screen, my screen 
>> always wakes up, and goes to sleep at the appropriate time.
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 8:25 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am cross-posting this to both the v iPhone and the Mac Visionaries mailing
>>> list.
>>> 
>>> SUMMARY:
>>> One glitch I've noticed in iOS 9.1, that I was finally able to verify on
>>> multiple devices, this week, is that, sometimes, when VoiceOver is enabled,
>>> receiving a text message alert will first wake up and then prevent the
>>> display from going to sleep.  To be more precise, I have encountered this
>>> same glitch when any app is set to display notification alerts, as opposed
>>> to banners but have decided, for brevity's sake, to focus on text message
>>> alerts, only.
>>> 
>>> This can cause a great deal of battery drain, in a short time, depending
>>> upon the level of the screen brightness.
>>> 
>>> SCENARIO:
>>> 1.
>>> Make certain you have your device set to use your fingerprint in order to
>>> quickly unlock the device.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Set the message notification to sounds and alerts; also make certain you can
>>> see the messages in both your notification center and on the lock screen.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Now lock the screen.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Receive a text message from someone.  
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> If the glitch happens, the screen will wake up, displaying a dialog box
>>> giving you the option to either close the alert or reply to the message.
>>> 
>>> CONCLUSION:
>>> Even when an alert is received, the display is supposed to remain off until
>>> activated by the user.  However, on a very intermittent basis, the alert
>>> will wake up the screen and it will not go back to sleep until the alert is
>>> dismissed.  I estimate that this happens once out of every 20 or so alerts.
>>> However, when it happens, the battery will just sit there and drain as the
>>> screen remains active until the alert is dismissed.  This also has the
>>> collateral affect of heating up the phone.  I have not attempted to
>>> reproduce this issue on any device not running VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> My solution to this is to switch the alert notifications to banners for my
>>> most frequently used apps.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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