Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-03 Thread Gabe Griffith
Hi Doqna,I highly recommend setting up the phone yourself. That's generally the way I've done it in the past and never had a problem. This was by far the worst experience I've had in getting a new phone set up and that could be because the transfer was taking so long and I had to leave the store. Yes, the longer battery life is a huge perk of the upgrade. Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Oct 3, 2022, at 9:53 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hi Gabe,Thanks so much for sending such detailed feedback!  I have to say the better battery life is enticing.  I charge my 12 mini over night, and then usually again around 4-5 in the afternoon. As you can imagine, I’d be glad not to have to do that.I don’t use braille screen input, so that wouldn’t be an issue for me.  I’ll be setting up the phone all on my own here at home, so don’t know if that’ll be better or worse than your experience. :)Cheers,Donna On Oct 3, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:Hi, I've had my 14 pro "For just over a week now. I upgraded from the SE 2020 and my main reason was that the battery on the S"A had gotten to where I had to charge it at least once a day. The battery on the 14 pro is awesome! I can make it through the entire day on a single charge and often have 30% or so left over. I find the screen on the new phone to be very sensative. One of my biggest issues so far is that I use braille screen input all the time for texting and emailing and very often get a dot 2 when I don't want one. The workaround I've figured out for that is to place my fingers down one at a time until I have all that I want for that character then let go. The other thing that happens a lot is that I am told to only place no more than 3 fingers on either side of the screen quite a bit. The biggest issue I had in setting the phone up is that the store tried doing the restore from my old phone and somehow VoiceOver was all screwed up. For example, no numbers were reading correctly so I was having a heck of a time unlocking the screen and couldn't get past that to get the hang of the swiping gesture for the home and app switcher. I finally had to download one of the smaller voice packages before I could even download and select the Alex voice I use. Once I finally did that and got VO speaking properly I was able to focus on learning the screen gestures and am getting to like this phone. Bottom line is that I agree with what others have said on here and upgrading is definitely a personal choice. I'm hoping this is a phone I can now have for several years. At this point I think most of the issues are the braille bugs that seem to be in almost every major iOS update lately. I do find the mantis display to have the fewest bugs of the displays I have access to and that's probably because of the qwerty keyboard and it not using braille commands. There you have my initial thoughts from my first 9 or 10 days with this new phone. I'm happy to try and answer any other questions folks might have. Gabe On Oct 2, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:I’ll give my impressions when I get it set up. BTW UPS just alerted me that it’s coming tomorrow.
Dave CarlsonFarfar, Pioneer, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, and Woodworker

On Oct 2, 2022, at 4:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Let me know your thoughts once you’ve had a chance to play around with it.Cheers,DonnaOn Oct 2, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:Presumably, coming on Tuesday for me.Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Farfar, Oregonian, pioneer, engineer, and MusicianOn Oct 2, 2022, at 11:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Thanks.  I’m also experiencing degrading battery life on my 12 mini, which was my original impetus for upgrading.  Thanks for the heads-up about the additional weight.  It’s not a deal breaker, but I’m glad to know beforehand.Cheers,DonnaOn Oct 2, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:It's a nice phone. I like it. It is a lot heavier than my 12 Pro. camera bump is very large. The battery on my 12 Pro had degraded to about 83%, so I decided to go ahead and tratrade in the 12 Pro, and do the upgrade.   It's really a personal choice, rather to upgrade or not. If you're happy with your 12 mini, then you might want to just stick with it for a while longer.- Brad -On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hi Brad,Well, that is certainly not what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately, I seem to be experiencing every single bug that is present in iOS 16. My latest discovery is that this issue that I’m having with sorting playlist also seems to be a problem on the 12 minis. Basically, the sort button isn’t showing up. That’s just one of many many many things that I have experienced since the 

Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-03 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Gabe,

Thanks so much for sending such detailed feedback!  I have to say the better 
battery life is enticing.  I charge my 12 mini over night, and then usually 
again around 4-5 in the afternoon. As you can imagine, I’d be glad not to have 
to do that.

I don’t use braille screen input, so that wouldn’t be an issue for me.  I’ll be 
setting up the phone all on my own here at home, so don’t know if that’ll be 
better or worse than your experience. :)
Cheers,
Donna
 

> On Oct 3, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I've had my 14 pro "For just over a week now. I upgraded from the SE 2020 and 
> my main reason was that the battery on the S"A had gotten to where I had to 
> charge it at least once a day. The battery on the 14 pro is awesome! I can 
> make it through the entire day on a single charge and often have 30% or so 
> left over. 
> 
> I find the screen on the new phone to be very sensative. One of my biggest 
> issues so far is that I use braille screen input all the time for texting and 
> emailing and very often get a dot 2 when I don't want one. The workaround 
> I've figured out for that is to place my fingers down one at a time until I 
> have all that I want for that character then let go. The other thing that 
> happens a lot is that I am told to only place no more than 3 fingers on 
> either side of the screen quite a bit. 
> 
> The biggest issue I had in setting the phone up is that the store tried doing 
> the restore from my old phone and somehow VoiceOver was all screwed up. For 
> example, no numbers were reading correctly so I was having a heck of a time 
> unlocking the screen and couldn't get past that to get the hang of the 
> swiping gesture for the home and app switcher. I finally had to download one 
> of the smaller voice packages before I could even download and select the 
> Alex voice I use. Once I finally did that and got VO speaking properly I was 
> able to focus on learning the screen gestures and am getting to like this 
> phone. 
> 
> Bottom line is that I agree with what others have said on here and upgrading 
> is definitely a personal choice. I'm hoping this is a phone I can now have 
> for several years. At this point I think most of the issues are the braille 
> bugs that seem to be in almost every major iOS update lately. I do find the 
> mantis display to have the fewest bugs of the displays I have access to and 
> that's probably because of the qwerty keyboard and it not using braille 
> commands. 
> 
> There you have my initial thoughts from my first 9 or 10 days with this new 
> phone. I'm happy to try and answer any other questions folks might have. 
> 
> Gabe 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll give my impressions when I get it set up. BTW UPS just alerted me that 
>> it’s coming tomorrow.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Farfar, Pioneer, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, and Woodworker
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 4:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Let me know your thoughts once you’ve had a chance to play around with it.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Dave Carlson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Presumably, coming on Tuesday for me.
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Woodworker, Farfar, Oregonian, pioneer, engineer, and Musician
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.  I’m also experiencing degrading battery life on my 12 mini, which 
>>> was my original impetus for upgrading.  Thanks for the heads-up about the 
>>> additional weight.  It’s not a deal breaker, but I’m glad to know 
>>> beforehand.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 It's a nice phone. I like it. It is a lot heavier than my 12 Pro. camera 
 bump is very large. The battery on my 12 Pro had degraded to about 83%, so 
 I decided to go ahead and tratrade in the 12 Pro, and do the upgrade.   
 It's really a personal choice, rather to upgrade or not. If you're happy 
 with your 12 mini, then you might want to just stick with it for a while 
 longer.
 
 - Brad -
 
 On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Brad,
 
 Well, that is certainly not what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately, I seem 
 to be experiencing every single bug that is present in iOS 16. My latest 
 discovery is that this issue that I’m having with sorting playlist also 
 seems to be a problem on the 12 minis. Basically, the sort button isn’t 
 showing up. That’s just one of many many many things that I have 
 experienced since the upgrade. I was hoping that life would be better with 
 a 14 pro. On a more 

Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-03 Thread Gabe Griffith
Hi, I've had my 14 pro "For just over a week now. I upgraded from the SE 2020 and my main reason was that the battery on the S"A had gotten to where I had to charge it at least once a day. The battery on the 14 pro is awesome! I can make it through the entire day on a single charge and often have 30% or so left over. I find the screen on the new phone to be very sensative. One of my biggest issues so far is that I use braille screen input all the time for texting and emailing and very often get a dot 2 when I don't want one. The workaround I've figured out for that is to place my fingers down one at a time until I have all that I want for that character then let go. The other thing that happens a lot is that I am told to only place no more than 3 fingers on either side of the screen quite a bit. The biggest issue I had in setting the phone up is that the store tried doing the restore from my old phone and somehow VoiceOver was all screwed up. For example, no numbers were reading correctly so I was having a heck of a time unlocking the screen and couldn't get past that to get the hang of the swiping gesture for the home and app switcher. I finally had to download one of the smaller voice packages before I could even download and select the Alex voice I use. Once I finally did that and got VO speaking properly I was able to focus on learning the screen gestures and am getting to like this phone. Bottom line is that I agree with what others have said on here and upgrading is definitely a personal choice. I'm hoping this is a phone I can now have for several years. At this point I think most of the issues are the braille bugs that seem to be in almost every major iOS update lately. I do find the mantis display to have the fewest bugs of the displays I have access to and that's probably because of the qwerty keyboard and it not using braille commands. There you have my initial thoughts from my first 9 or 10 days with this new phone. I'm happy to try and answer any other questions folks might have. Gabe On Oct 2, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:I’ll give my impressions when I get it set up. BTW UPS just alerted me that it’s coming tomorrow.
Dave CarlsonFarfar, Pioneer, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, and Woodworker

On Oct 2, 2022, at 4:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Let me know your thoughts once you’ve had a chance to play around with it.Cheers,DonnaOn Oct 2, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:Presumably, coming on Tuesday for me.Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Farfar, Oregonian, pioneer, engineer, and MusicianOn Oct 2, 2022, at 11:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Thanks.  I’m also experiencing degrading battery life on my 12 mini, which was my original impetus for upgrading.  Thanks for the heads-up about the additional weight.  It’s not a deal breaker, but I’m glad to know beforehand.Cheers,DonnaOn Oct 2, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:It's a nice phone. I like it. It is a lot heavier than my 12 Pro. camera bump is very large. The battery on my 12 Pro had degraded to about 83%, so I decided to go ahead and tratrade in the 12 Pro, and do the upgrade.   It's really a personal choice, rather to upgrade or not. If you're happy with your 12 mini, then you might want to just stick with it for a while longer.- Brad -On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hi Brad,Well, that is certainly not what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately, I seem to be experiencing every single bug that is present in iOS 16. My latest discovery is that this issue that I’m having with sorting playlist also seems to be a problem on the 12 minis. Basically, the sort button isn’t showing up. That’s just one of many many many things that I have experienced since the upgrade. I was hoping that life would be better with a 14 pro. On a more general level, are you happy with the phone or not? How so, how not?Thanks,Donna. Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 2, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:Don't believe everything you read.My wife has a iPhone 13 mini, and she is not experiencing some of the bugs that I am experiencing on my shiny new iPhone 14 Pro.- Brad -On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hi all,Just wondering if anyone’s gotten a 14 Pro yet.  My reading is suggesting that the Minis are experiencing the most bugs with IOS 16, so I’m thinking about taking the plunge.  If anyone has gotten the 14 Pro, I’d love to hear your impressions.TIA,Donna-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list 

Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-02 Thread Dave Carlson
I’ll give my impressions when I get it set up. BTW UPS just alerted me that 
it’s coming tomorrow.

Dave Carlson
Farfar, Pioneer, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, and Woodworker



On Oct 2, 2022, at 4:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Let me know your thoughts once you’ve had a chance to play around with it.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Oct 2, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Presumably, coming on Tuesday for me.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Woodworker, Farfar, Oregonian, pioneer, engineer, and Musician
> 
> 
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  I’m also experiencing degrading battery life on my 12 mini, which 
> was my original impetus for upgrading.  Thanks for the heads-up about the 
> additional weight.  It’s not a deal breaker, but I’m glad to know beforehand.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> It's a nice phone. I like it. It is a lot heavier than my 12 Pro. camera 
>> bump is very large. The battery on my 12 Pro had degraded to about 83%, so I 
>> decided to go ahead and tratrade in the 12 Pro, and do the upgrade.   It's 
>> really a personal choice, rather to upgrade or not. If you're happy with 
>> your 12 mini, then you might want to just stick with it for a while longer.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brad,
>> 
>> Well, that is certainly not what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately, I seem to 
>> be experiencing every single bug that is present in iOS 16. My latest 
>> discovery is that this issue that I’m having with sorting playlist also 
>> seems to be a problem on the 12 minis. Basically, the sort button isn’t 
>> showing up. That’s just one of many many many things that I have experienced 
>> since the upgrade. I was hoping that life would be better with a 14 pro. On 
>> a more general level, are you happy with the phone or not? How so, how not?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't believe everything you read.
>>> My wife has a iPhone 13 mini, and she is not experiencing some of the bugs 
>>> that I am experiencing on my shiny new iPhone 14 Pro.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone’s gotten a 14 Pro yet.  My reading is suggesting 
>>> that the Minis are experiencing the most bugs with IOS 16, so I’m thinking 
>>> about taking the plunge.  If anyone has gotten the 14 Pro, I’d love to hear 
>>> your impressions.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-02 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Let me know your thoughts once you’ve had a chance to play around with it.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Oct 2, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Presumably, coming on Tuesday for me.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Woodworker, Farfar, Oregonian, pioneer, engineer, and Musician
> 
> 
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  I’m also experiencing degrading battery life on my 12 mini, which 
> was my original impetus for upgrading.  Thanks for the heads-up about the 
> additional weight.  It’s not a deal breaker, but I’m glad to know beforehand.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> It's a nice phone. I like it. It is a lot heavier than my 12 Pro. camera 
>> bump is very large. The battery on my 12 Pro had degraded to about 83%, so I 
>> decided to go ahead and tratrade in the 12 Pro, and do the upgrade.   It's 
>> really a personal choice, rather to upgrade or not. If you're happy with 
>> your 12 mini, then you might want to just stick with it for a while longer.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brad,
>> 
>> Well, that is certainly not what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately, I seem to 
>> be experiencing every single bug that is present in iOS 16. My latest 
>> discovery is that this issue that I’m having with sorting playlist also 
>> seems to be a problem on the 12 minis. Basically, the sort button isn’t 
>> showing up. That’s just one of many many many things that I have experienced 
>> since the upgrade. I was hoping that life would be better with a 14 pro. On 
>> a more general level, are you happy with the phone or not? How so, how not?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't believe everything you read.
>>> My wife has a iPhone 13 mini, and she is not experiencing some of the bugs 
>>> that I am experiencing on my shiny new iPhone 14 Pro.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone’s gotten a 14 Pro yet.  My reading is suggesting 
>>> that the Minis are experiencing the most bugs with IOS 16, so I’m thinking 
>>> about taking the plunge.  If anyone has gotten the 14 Pro, I’d love to hear 
>>> your impressions.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-02 Thread Dave Carlson
Presumably, coming on Tuesday for me.

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Farfar, Oregonian, pioneer, engineer, and Musician


On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Thanks.  I’m also experiencing degrading battery life on my 12 mini, which was 
my original impetus for upgrading.  Thanks for the heads-up about the 
additional weight.  It’s not a deal breaker, but I’m glad to know beforehand.
Cheers,
Donna



> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> It's a nice phone. I like it. It is a lot heavier than my 12 Pro. camera bump 
> is very large. The battery on my 12 Pro had degraded to about 83%, so I 
> decided to go ahead and tratrade in the 12 Pro, and do the upgrade.   It's 
> really a personal choice, rather to upgrade or not. If you're happy with your 
> 12 mini, then you might want to just stick with it for a while longer.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brad,
> 
> Well, that is certainly not what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately, I seem to 
> be experiencing every single bug that is present in iOS 16. My latest 
> discovery is that this issue that I’m having with sorting playlist also seems 
> to be a problem on the 12 minis. Basically, the sort button isn’t showing up. 
> That’s just one of many many many things that I have experienced since the 
> upgrade. I was hoping that life would be better with a 14 pro. On a more 
> general level, are you happy with the phone or not? How so, how not?
> Thanks,
> Donna. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't believe everything you read.
>> My wife has a iPhone 13 mini, and she is not experiencing some of the bugs 
>> that I am experiencing on my shiny new iPhone 14 Pro.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone’s gotten a 14 Pro yet.  My reading is suggesting 
>> that the Minis are experiencing the most bugs with IOS 16, so I’m thinking 
>> about taking the plunge.  If anyone has gotten the 14 Pro, I’d love to hear 
>> your impressions.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-02 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thanks.  I’m also experiencing degrading battery life on my 12 mini, which was 
my original impetus for upgrading.  Thanks for the heads-up about the 
additional weight.  It’s not a deal breaker, but I’m glad to know beforehand.
Cheers,
Donna



> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> It's a nice phone. I like it. It is a lot heavier than my 12 Pro. camera bump 
> is very large. The battery on my 12 Pro had degraded to about 83%, so I 
> decided to go ahead and tratrade in the 12 Pro, and do the upgrade.   It's 
> really a personal choice, rather to upgrade or not. If you're happy with your 
> 12 mini, then you might want to just stick with it for a while longer.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brad,
> 
> Well, that is certainly not what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately, I seem to 
> be experiencing every single bug that is present in iOS 16. My latest 
> discovery is that this issue that I’m having with sorting playlist also seems 
> to be a problem on the 12 minis. Basically, the sort button isn’t showing up. 
> That’s just one of many many many things that I have experienced since the 
> upgrade. I was hoping that life would be better with a 14 pro. On a more 
> general level, are you happy with the phone or not? How so, how not?
> Thanks,
> Donna. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't believe everything you read.
>> My wife has a iPhone 13 mini, and she is not experiencing some of the bugs 
>> that I am experiencing on my shiny new iPhone 14 Pro.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone’s gotten a 14 Pro yet.  My reading is suggesting 
>> that the Minis are experiencing the most bugs with IOS 16, so I’m thinking 
>> about taking the plunge.  If anyone has gotten the 14 Pro, I’d love to hear 
>> your impressions.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-02 Thread Brad Snyder
It's a nice phone. I like it. It is a lot heavier than my 12 Pro. camera bump 
is very large. The battery on my 12 Pro had degraded to about 83%, so I decided 
to go ahead and tratrade in the 12 Pro, and do the upgrade.   It's really a 
personal choice, rather to upgrade or not. If you're happy with your 12 mini, 
then you might want to just stick with it for a while longer.

- Brad -

On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Brad,

Well, that is certainly not what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately, I seem to be 
experiencing every single bug that is present in iOS 16. My latest discovery is 
that this issue that I’m having with sorting playlist also seems to be a 
problem on the 12 minis. Basically, the sort button isn’t showing up. That’s 
just one of many many many things that I have experienced since the upgrade. I 
was hoping that life would be better with a 14 pro. On a more general level, 
are you happy with the phone or not? How so, how not?
Thanks,
Donna. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Don't believe everything you read.
> My wife has a iPhone 13 mini, and she is not experiencing some of the bugs 
> that I am experiencing on my shiny new iPhone 14 Pro.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone’s gotten a 14 Pro yet.  My reading is suggesting 
> that the Minis are experiencing the most bugs with IOS 16, so I’m thinking 
> about taking the plunge.  If anyone has gotten the 14 Pro, I’d love to hear 
> your impressions.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-02 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Brad,

Well, that is certainly not what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately, I seem to be 
experiencing every single bug that is present in iOS 16. My latest discovery is 
that this issue that I’m having with sorting playlist also seems to be a 
problem on the 12 minis. Basically, the sort button isn’t showing up. That’s 
just one of many many many things that I have experienced since the upgrade. I 
was hoping that life would be better with a 14 pro. On a more general level, 
are you happy with the phone or not? How so, how not?
Thanks,
Donna. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Don't believe everything you read.
> My wife has a iPhone 13 mini, and she is not experiencing some of the bugs 
> that I am experiencing on my shiny new iPhone 14 Pro.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone’s gotten a 14 Pro yet.  My reading is suggesting 
> that the Minis are experiencing the most bugs with IOS 16, so I’m thinking 
> about taking the plunge.  If anyone has gotten the 14 Pro, I’d love to hear 
> your impressions.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-02 Thread Brad Snyder
Don't believe everything you read.
My wife has a iPhone 13 mini, and she is not experiencing some of the bugs that 
I am experiencing on my shiny new iPhone 14 Pro.

- Brad -

On Oct 2, 2022, at 11:52, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone’s gotten a 14 Pro yet.  My reading is suggesting that 
the Minis are experiencing the most bugs with IOS 16, so I’m thinking about 
taking the plunge.  If anyone has gotten the 14 Pro, I’d love to hear your 
impressions.
TIA,
Donna

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Anyone gotten the 14 Pro yet?

2022-10-02 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone’s gotten a 14 Pro yet.  My reading is suggesting that 
the Minis are experiencing the most bugs with IOS 16, so I’m thinking about 
taking the plunge.  If anyone has gotten the 14 Pro, I’d love to hear your 
impressions.
TIA,
Donna

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