Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-11 Thread Chris Westbrook
I don't remember everything I did, but it seems pretty simple.  I think all I 
did was put the cd in the drive, click install, and then make sure the hard 
drive was selected.  I think I could have done an optional install and just 
reinstalled safari, but I hadn't done anything with the mac really yet so 
decided to do a full reinstallation.  Maybe someone else can shed some light on 
this.
On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> Hi Chris:
> 
> Could you be so kind as to give me a push in the right direction where it 
> comes to reinstalling the OS?  I'm beyond frustrated here, and it seems that 
> everything I try just makes things worse.  Apparently, S5 was not tested 
> properly before being released.  
> 
> Thanks in advance!  :)
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote:
> 
>> It may have something to do with the size of the page.  When I had safari 5 
>> I noticed voiceover would do that in ichat if the chat got big enough.  I 
>> used the cd htat came with my mac to do a reinstall of the os and it took it 
>> back to safari 4.  I was surprised it didn't totally whipe the machine, but 
>> all my mail and ichat accounts and things were still there.  Something to 
>> try for those who like me want to downgrade.  as a new mac user this is very 
>> disappointing.  Has this happened with safari before?  I sent an email to 
>> accessibility about the ichat thing and got no response.  Do you think apple 
>> is blowing us off?
>> ------
>> From: "Jon Cohn" 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:39 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Audible.com site with safari 5
>> 
>>> I have not tried either s5 or Audible, but a couple things to try:
>>> 
>>> 1. Turn off cursor tracking. Some sites do a lot of javascript when the 
>>> mouse moves over a specific point, or the insertion point changes.  This 
>>> can wreck havoc when all three track each other.  Facebook is on my bad 
>>> behavior list because of this.
>>> 2. I believe I heard something about disabling javascript could prevent the 
>>> crashing. (which would make sense if the statement above holds.)
>>> 
>>> Note: if you disable cursor tracking, then you  need to ensure that you 
>>> move cursors where you want them to be.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
>>>> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
>>>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover 
>>>>> keeps restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peggy Fleischer
>>>>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to 
>>>>> present you
>>>>> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
>>>>> 1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion
>>>>> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
>>>>> 
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-11 Thread Kimberly thurman
Hi Chris:

Could you be so kind as to give me a push in the right direction where it comes 
to reinstalling the OS?  I'm beyond frustrated here, and it seems that 
everything I try just makes things worse.  Apparently, S5 was not tested 
properly before being released.  

Thanks in advance!  :)
On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote:

> It may have something to do with the size of the page.  When I had safari 5 I 
> noticed voiceover would do that in ichat if the chat got big enough.  I used 
> the cd htat came with my mac to do a reinstall of the os and it took it back 
> to safari 4.  I was surprised it didn't totally whipe the machine, but all my 
> mail and ichat accounts and things were still there.  Something to try for 
> those who like me want to downgrade.  as a new mac user this is very 
> disappointing.  Has this happened with safari before?  I sent an email to 
> accessibility about the ichat thing and got no response.  Do you think apple 
> is blowing us off?
> --
> From: "Jon Cohn" 
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:39 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Audible.com site with safari 5
> 
>> I have not tried either s5 or Audible, but a couple things to try:
>> 
>> 1. Turn off cursor tracking. Some sites do a lot of javascript when the 
>> mouse moves over a specific point, or the insertion point changes.  This can 
>> wreck havoc when all three track each other.  Facebook is on my bad behavior 
>> list because of this.
>> 2. I believe I heard something about disabling javascript could prevent the 
>> crashing. (which would make sense if the statement above holds.)
>> 
>> Note: if you disable cursor tracking, then you  need to ensure that you move 
>> cursors where you want them to be.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes,
>>> 
>>> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
>>> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
>>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover 
>>>> keeps restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Peggy Fleischer
>>>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
>>>> 
>>>> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to 
>>>> present you
>>>> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
>>>> 1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion
>>>> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
>>>> 
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-10 Thread Chris Westbrook
It may have something to do with the size of the page.  When I had safari 5 
I noticed voiceover would do that in ichat if the chat got big enough.  I 
used the cd htat came with my mac to do a reinstall of the os and it took it 
back to safari 4.  I was surprised it didn't totally whipe the machine, but 
all my mail and ichat accounts and things were still there.  Something to 
try for those who like me want to downgrade.  as a new mac user this is very 
disappointing.  Has this happened with safari before?  I sent an email to 
accessibility about the ichat thing and got no response.  Do you think apple 
is blowing us off?

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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:39 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Audible.com site with safari 5


I have not tried either s5 or Audible, but a couple things to try:

1. Turn off cursor tracking. Some sites do a lot of javascript when the 
mouse moves over a specific point, or the insertion point changes.  This 
can wreck havoc when all three track each other.  Facebook is on my bad 
behavior list because of this.
2. I believe I heard something about disabling javascript could prevent 
the crashing. (which would make sense if the statement above holds.)


Note: if you disable cursor tracking, then you  need to ensure that you 
move cursors where you want them to be.


Best regards,

Jon

On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Yes,

I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying

On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover 
keeps restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?



Peggy Fleischer
peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net

Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to 
present you

faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, 
Dominion

and power, Both now and forever. Amen.


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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-10 Thread Jon Cohn
I have not tried either s5 or Audible, but a couple things to try:

1. Turn off cursor tracking. Some sites do a lot of javascript when the mouse 
moves over a specific point, or the insertion point changes.  This can wreck 
havoc when all three track each other.  Facebook is on my bad behavior list 
because of this.  
2. I believe I heard something about disabling javascript could prevent the 
crashing. (which would make sense if the statement above holds.)

Note: if you disable cursor tracking, then you  need to ensure that you move 
cursors where you want them to be.

Best regards,

Jon

On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Yes,
> 
> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
> 
>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover keeps 
>> restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
>> 
>> 
>>  Peggy Fleischer
>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
>> 
>> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present 
>> you 
>> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
>> 1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion 
>> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
>> 
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Teresa Cochran
Odd; me, too. Well, that bit's fixed anyhow.

Teresa
On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Oh,
> 
> The problem with audible stopped after a reset of safari for me
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I've experienced this behavior several times today in Safari 5 and Web Kit.  
>> I've repaired disk permissions, reset Safari and Web Kit and still have 
>> issues.  
>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes,
>>> 
>>> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
>>> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
>>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>> 
 I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover 
 keeps restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
 
 
Peggy Fleischer
 peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
 
 Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to 
 present you 
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Teresa Cochran
Same here. Well, I guess the kinks haven't been worked out of the new version 
of Safari yet.

Teresa
On Jun 8, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover keeps 
> restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
> 
> 
>   Peggy Fleischer
> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
> 
> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present 
> you 
> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
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> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Kimberly thurman
It's in the Web Kit menu.  It says reset Safari though.
On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Olivia Norman wrote:

> How do I reset web kit? I've reset safari, repaired permissions, emptied 
> cash, and deleted and recreated my preferences, all to no avail.
> Olivia
> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
> 
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I've experienced this behavior several times today in Safari 5 and Web Kit.  
>> I've repaired disk permissions, reset Safari and Web Kit and still have 
>> issues.  
>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes,
>>> 
>>> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
>>> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
>>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>> 
 I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover 
 keeps restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
 
 
Peggy Fleischer
 peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
 
 Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to 
 present you 
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Peggy Fleischer
Reseting Safari seems to have fixed the audible problem for me. 

Peggy Fleischer
peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net

Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present 
you 
faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion 
and power, Both now and forever. Amen.


On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Olivia Norman wrote:

> Yes, same here. I have emailed accessibility about this, and urge others to 
> do so. They're aware of it and working on a fix.
> Olivia
> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
> 
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I've experienced this behavior several times today in Safari 5 and Web Kit.  
>> I've repaired disk permissions, reset Safari and Web Kit and still have 
>> issues.  
>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes,
>>> 
>>> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
>>> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
>>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>> 
 I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover 
 keeps restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
 
 
Peggy Fleischer
 peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
 
 Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to 
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Olivia Norman
How do I reset web kit? I've reset safari, repaired permissions, emptied cash, 
and deleted and recreated my preferences, all to no avail.
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs

On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> I've experienced this behavior several times today in Safari 5 and Web Kit.  
> I've repaired disk permissions, reset Safari and Web Kit and still have 
> issues.  
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Yes,
>> 
>> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
>> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>> 
>>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover 
>>> keeps restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peggy Fleischer
>>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
>>> 
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>>> present you 
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Olivia Norman
Here's a kind of work around.  If you email yourself the link and launch the 
page that way, it seems to work. I am not sure why this is, though.
Olivia
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On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Yes,
> 
> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
> 
>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover keeps 
>> restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
>> 
>> 
>>  Peggy Fleischer
>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
>> 
>> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present 
>> you 
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>> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Olivia Norman
Yes, same here. I have emailed accessibility about this, and urge others to do 
so. They're aware of it and working on a fix.
Olivia
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On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> I've experienced this behavior several times today in Safari 5 and Web Kit.  
> I've repaired disk permissions, reset Safari and Web Kit and still have 
> issues.  
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Yes,
>> 
>> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
>> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>> 
>>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover 
>>> keeps restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peggy Fleischer
>>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
>>> 
>>> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to 
>>> present you 
>>> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
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>>> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Ricardo Walker
Oh,

The problem with audible stopped after a reset of safari for me
On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> I've experienced this behavior several times today in Safari 5 and Web Kit.  
> I've repaired disk permissions, reset Safari and Web Kit and still have 
> issues.  
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Yes,
>> 
>> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
>> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>> 
>>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover 
>>> keeps restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peggy Fleischer
>>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
>>> 
>>> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to 
>>> present you 
>>> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
>>> 1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion 
>>> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
>>> 
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Kimberly thurman
I've experienced this behavior several times today in Safari 5 and Web Kit.  
I've repaired disk permissions, reset Safari and Web Kit and still have issues. 
 
On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Yes,
> 
> I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
> interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
> 
>> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover keeps 
>> restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
>> 
>> 
>>  Peggy Fleischer
>> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
>> 
>> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present 
>> you 
>> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
>> 1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion 
>> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
>> 
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Re: Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yes,

I'm getting the same behavior.  Voiceover resets itself when you try to 
interact with the html content.  Very, very, annoying
On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

> I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover keeps 
> restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?
> 
> 
>   Peggy Fleischer
> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
> 
> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present 
> you 
> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
> 1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion 
> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
> 
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Audible.com site with safari 5

2010-06-08 Thread Peggy Fleischer
I am finding that safari crashes with the audible web site.  Voiceover keeps 
restarting.  Has anyone else tried audible?


Peggy Fleischer
peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net

Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present 
you 
faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
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and power, Both now and forever. Amen.


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