Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Do you mean if its possible to do it or if i am khave the knowledge to do it?
If the later i can google it but i think you can map drives on the network.
/A
> 18 apr. 2017 kl. 01:41 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> Just thinking though, can you setup a mapped drive to a mobile device?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 3:21 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
> 
> Hi!
> That could be a very intresting sollution.
> I will check this out later.
> /A
>> 16 apr. 2017 kl. 09:39 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>> 
>> HI Anders,
>> 
>> Apologies for th edelay,
>> 
>> One thing I use which only works for work currently is VPN connection 
>> to the network I'm accessing and then mapped or shared drives between my 
>> notebook and the machine at work.
>> 
>> Ok this is within windows but I'm pretty sure you can do the same thing with 
>> the mac os.
>> 
>> The main reason for VPN is to get the secure connection to the correct 
>> network.
>> 
>> I can do it with home as well but the VPN isn't working as yet,
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 9:43 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Okso what would you use my friend
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>>> 
>>> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>>> /A
>>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>>>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>>>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
>>>> I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>>>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
>>>> control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>>>> /A
>>>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
>>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag 
>>>>>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for 
>>>>>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>>>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
>>>>>> same time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer 
>>>>>>> app?
>>>>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way 
>>>>>>> to move files.
>>>>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>>>>> When i am on the fil

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes it has.
BUt i am lazy and don’t want to turn the phone off and open the back cover and 
pull out the tray with the sim and the memory card and copy and then pull 
things back in again.
Though i have the idea to use an app called airmore which is a mac and android 
aplication.
>From what i understand it can transfer via wifi.
/A
> 18 apr. 2017 kl. 00:56 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
> 
> Hi Andrers 
> 
> I  might have missed this but what about a memory card?
> 
> Don't the moto G take micro SD memory cards for storage?
> Can't you just copy to that then put the chip back in the phone and listen?
> 
> Or am I mistaken about the phone having Micro SD storage?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, 17 April 2017 10:14 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
> 
> Hi!
> Well mostly music is what i want to copy since my bloody Moto G 5 doesn’t 
> love to login to apple music for some odd reason.
> SO now my apple account has been locked and i have unlocked it but it will 
> take a couple of days as i was unlocking it with my phone number and not one 
> of my other devices.
> Stupid me but that’s how it is.
> So music is the things i would like to copy to it so i can have something to 
> listen to when on the train or in a taxi.
> /A
>> 15 apr. 2017 kl. 16:17 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Anders you have messages too, no? that should take care of the most 
>> file needs, depending again on what it is you wanna copied between 2 
>> devices.
>> 
>> On 4/14/17, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> Okso what would you use my friend
>>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
>>>> 
>>>> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders 
>>>> Holmberg
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>>>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>>>> /A
>>>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience 
>>>>> than I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to 
>>>>> easily arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in 
>>>>> Windows.  But then again I never met a Windows screen reader that 
>>>>> could drag and drop in the first place.  Oh technically the 
>>>>> function could be accomplished with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw 
>>>>> it work.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg 
>>>>>> <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>>>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual 
>>>>>>> drag and drop, then both locations would have to be visually 
>>>>>>> accessible for the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be 
>>>>>>> that the windows are overlapping and thus the source and 
>>>>>>> destination are not visible at the same time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg 
>>>>>>>> <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>> Ok, now my

RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi eric,

 Thanks for that,

 I just got myself a Samsung 7 inch tablet to play with I might have to have a 
look at these tools.


Cheers,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Erik Burggraaf
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 9:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

I don't know about this on the iPhone, but since we're talking about an 
Android, yes, you can do VPN on a Droid. I think total Commander has an 
extension for that and ES File Explorer might have one as well.

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On April 17, 2017 7:42:27 PM Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

> Hi Anders,
>
>  Just thinking though, can you setup a mapped drive to a mobile device?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 3:21 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>
> Hi!
> That could be a very intresting sollution.
> I will check this out later.
> /A
>> 16 apr. 2017 kl. 09:39 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>>
>> HI Anders,
>>
>> Apologies for th edelay,
>>
>> One thing I use which only works for work currently is VPN connection 
>> to the network I'm accessing and then mapped or shared drives between 
>> my notebook and the machine at work.
>>
>> Ok this is within windows but I'm pretty sure you can do the same 
>> thing with the mac os.
>>
>> The main reason for VPN is to get the secure connection to the correct 
>> network.
>>
>> I can do it with home as well but the VPN isn't working as yet,
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 9:43 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>>
>> Hi!
>> Okso what would you use my friend
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>>>
>>> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
>>>
>>> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders 
>>> Holmberg
>>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>>> /A
>>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience 
>>>> than I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to 
>>>> easily arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in 
>>>> Windows.  But then again I never met a Windows screen reader that 
>>>> could drag and drop in the first place.  Oh technically the 
>>>> function could be accomplished with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw 
>>>> it work.
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>>>> /A
>>>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
>>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual 
>>>>>> drag and drop, then both locations would have to be visually 
>>>>>> accessible for the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be 
>>>>>> that the windows are overlapping and thus the source and 
>>>>>> destination are not visible at the same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>&g

RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Erik Burggraaf]

I don't know about this on the iPhone, but since we're talking about an 
Android, yes, you can do VPN on a Droid. I think total Commander has an 
extension for that and ES File Explorer might have one as well.


Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On April 17, 2017 7:42:27 PM Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:


Hi Anders,

 Just thinking though, can you setup a mapped drive to a mobile device?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg

Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 3:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
That could be a very intresting sollution.
I will check this out later.
/A

16 apr. 2017 kl. 09:39 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:

HI Anders,

Apologies for th edelay,

One thing I use which only works for work currently is VPN connection
to the network I'm accessing and then mapped or shared drives between my 
notebook and the machine at work.


Ok this is within windows but I'm pretty sure you can do the same thing 
with the mac os.


The main reason for VPN is to get the secure connection to the correct network.

I can do it with home as well but the VPN isn't working as yet,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 9:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
Okso what would you use my friend

14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:

Is this just for file transfers between your devices?

I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A

14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:

It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
control hotkeys but I never saw it work.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
So they have to be side by side for example?
How do i get them side by side then?
/A

13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:

If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
time.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:

Hi!
Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
move files.

But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
file transfer for android.
Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
to be stored to.

I have opened it with command down arrow.
Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.

Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
/A

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RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Anders,

 Just thinking though, can you setup a mapped drive to a mobile device?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 3:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
That could be a very intresting sollution.
I will check this out later.
/A
> 16 apr. 2017 kl. 09:39 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
> 
> HI Anders,
> 
> Apologies for th edelay,
> 
> One thing I use which only works for work currently is VPN connection 
> to the network I'm accessing and then mapped or shared drives between my 
> notebook and the machine at work.
> 
> Ok this is within windows but I'm pretty sure you can do the same thing with 
> the mac os.
> 
> The main reason for VPN is to get the secure connection to the correct 
> network.
> 
> I can do it with home as well but the VPN isn't working as yet,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 9:43 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
> 
> Hi!
> Okso what would you use my friend
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>> 
>> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
>> 
>> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>> /A
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
>>> I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
>>> control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>>> /A
>>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag 
>>>>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for 
>>>>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
>>>>> same time.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer 
>>>>>> app?
>>>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way 
>>>>>> to move files.
>>>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab 
>>>>>> to file transfer for android.
>>>>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
>>>>>> file to be stored to.
>>>>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>>>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>>>>>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>>>>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the 
>>>>>> mac?
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>> 
&

RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Andrers 

 I  might have missed this but what about a memory card?

Don't the moto G take micro SD memory cards for storage?
Can't you just copy to that then put the chip back in the phone and listen?

Or am I mistaken about the phone having Micro SD storage?


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, 17 April 2017 10:14 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
Well mostly music is what i want to copy since my bloody Moto G 5 doesn’t love 
to login to apple music for some odd reason.
SO now my apple account has been locked and i have unlocked it but it will take 
a couple of days as i was unlocking it with my phone number and not one of my 
other devices.
Stupid me but that’s how it is.
So music is the things i would like to copy to it so i can have something to 
listen to when on the train or in a taxi.
/A
> 15 apr. 2017 kl. 16:17 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Anders you have messages too, no? that should take care of the most 
> file needs, depending again on what it is you wanna copied between 2 
> devices.
> 
> On 4/14/17, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Okso what would you use my friend
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>>> 
>>> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders 
>>> Holmberg
>>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>>> /A
>>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience 
>>>> than I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to 
>>>> easily arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in 
>>>> Windows.  But then again I never met a Windows screen reader that 
>>>> could drag and drop in the first place.  Oh technically the 
>>>> function could be accomplished with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw 
>>>> it work.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg 
>>>>> <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>>>> /A
>>>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual 
>>>>>> drag and drop, then both locations would have to be visually 
>>>>>> accessible for the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be 
>>>>>> that the windows are overlapping and thus the source and 
>>>>>> destination are not visible at the same time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg 
>>>>>>> <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file 
>>>>>>> transfer app?
>>>>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the 
>>>>>>> only way to move files.
>>>>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>>>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then 
>>>>>>> command tab to file transfer for android.
>>>>>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i 
>>>>>>> want the file to be stored to.
>>>>>>> I have opened it with command down 

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
That could be a very intresting sollution.
I will check this out later.
/A
> 16 apr. 2017 kl. 09:39 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
> 
> HI Anders,
> 
> Apologies for th edelay,
> 
> One thing I use which only works for work currently is 
> VPN connection to the network I'm accessing and then mapped or shared drives 
> between my notebook and the machine at work.
> 
> Ok this is within windows but I'm pretty sure you can do the same thing with 
> the mac os.
> 
> The main reason for VPN is to get the secure connection to the correct 
> network.
> 
> I can do it with home as well but the VPN isn't working as yet,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 9:43 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
> 
> Hi!
> Okso what would you use my friend
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>> 
>> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
>> 
>> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>> /A
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
>>> I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
>>> control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>>> /A
>>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag 
>>>>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for 
>>>>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
>>>>> same time.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer 
>>>>>> app?
>>>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way 
>>>>>> to move files.
>>>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab 
>>>>>> to file transfer for android.
>>>>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
>>>>>> file to be stored to.
>>>>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>>>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>>>>>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>>>>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the 
>>>>>> mac?
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well mostly music is what i want to copy since my bloody Moto G 5 doesn’t love 
to login to apple music for some odd reason.
SO now my apple account has been locked and i have unlocked it but it will take 
a couple of days as i was unlocking it with my phone number and not one of my 
other devices.
Stupid me but that’s how it is.
So music is the things i would like to copy to it so i can have something to 
listen to when on the train or in a taxi.
/A
> 15 apr. 2017 kl. 16:17 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Anders you have messages too, no? that should take care of the most
> file needs, depending again on what it is you wanna copied between 2
> devices.
> 
> On 4/14/17, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Okso what would you use my friend
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>>> 
>>> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>>> /A
>>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than
>>>> I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily
>>>> arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But
>>>> then again I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop
>>>> in the first place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished
>>>> with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>>>> /A
>>>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag
>>>>>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for
>>>>>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are
>>>>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the
>>>>>> same time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer
>>>>>>> app?
>>>>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way
>>>>>>> to move files.
>>>>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>>>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab
>>>>>>> to file transfer for android.
>>>>>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the
>>>>>>> file to be stored to.
>>>>>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>>>>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file
>>>>>>> and after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was
>>>>>>> unsuccessful.
>>>>>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the
>>>>>>> mac?
>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If yo

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Anders, why not just tell us what files we talk about, you know it
would make it a little more easy on the geeks in here . if we are
talking ebooks, music, messages can be used, is it program files, im
not sure if it will work.

On 4/16/17, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> HI Anders,
>
>  Apologies for th edelay,
>
>  One thing I use which only works for work currently is
> VPN connection to the network I'm accessing and then mapped or shared drives
> between my notebook and the machine at work.
>
> Ok this is within windows but I'm pretty sure you can do the same thing with
> the mac os.
>
>  The main reason for VPN is to get the secure connection to the correct
> network.
>
> I can do it with home as well but the VPN isn't working as yet,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 9:43 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>
> Hi!
> Okso what would you use my friend
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>>
>> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
>>
>> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>>
>> Hi!
>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>> /A
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than
>>> I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily
>>> arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But
>>> then again I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop
>>> in the first place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished
>>> with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>>>
>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>>> /A
>>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag
>>>>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for
>>>>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are
>>>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the
>>>>> same time.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer
>>>>>> app?
>>>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way
>>>>>> to move files.
>>>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab
>>>>>> to file transfer for android.
>>>>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the
>>>>>> file to be stored to.
>>>>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>>>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file
>>>>>> and after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was
>>>>>> unsuccessful.
>>>>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the
>>>>>> mac?
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>>
>>

RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Simon Fogarty]

HI Anders,

 Apologies for th edelay,

 One thing I use which only works for work currently is 
VPN connection to the network I'm accessing and then mapped or shared drives 
between my notebook and the machine at work.

Ok this is within windows but I'm pretty sure you can do the same thing with 
the mac os.

 The main reason for VPN is to get the secure connection to the correct network.

I can do it with home as well but the VPN isn't working as yet,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 9:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
Okso what would you use my friend
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
> 
> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
> 
> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
> 
> Hi!
> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
> /A
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
>> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
>> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>> /A
>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
>>>> same time.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
>>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
>>>>> move files.
>>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
>>>>> file transfer for android.
>>>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
>>>>> file to be stored to.
>>>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>>>>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>>>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
>>>>> /A
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>>> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Anders you have messages too, no? that should take care of the most
file needs, depending again on what it is you wanna copied between 2
devices.

On 4/14/17, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> Hi!
> Okso what would you use my friend
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>>
>> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
>>
>> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
>>
>> Hi!
>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>> /A
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than
>>> I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily
>>> arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But
>>> then again I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop
>>> in the first place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished
>>> with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>>>
>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>>> /A
>>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag
>>>>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for
>>>>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are
>>>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the
>>>>> same time.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer
>>>>>> app?
>>>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way
>>>>>> to move files.
>>>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab
>>>>>> to file transfer for android.
>>>>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the
>>>>>> file to be stored to.
>>>>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>>>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file
>>>>>> and after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was
>>>>>> unsuccessful.
>>>>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the
>>>>>> mac?
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> mark at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is
>>>>>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Okso what would you use my friend
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
> 
> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
> 
> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
> 
> Hi!
> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
> /A
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
>> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
>> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>> /A
>>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
>>>> same time.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
>>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
>>>>> move files.
>>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
>>>>> file transfer for android.
>>>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
>>>>> file to be stored to.
>>>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>>>>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>>>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
>>>>> /A
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>> 
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well didn’t think of that one.
Thanks so much.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 18:38 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse :
> 
> Anders , have your email on both devices, and transfer it that way,
> 
> On 4/14/17, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> It sure helps a lot.
>> Thanks for your great encouragement on this topic.
>> I am very happy with this list as always.
>> People really helps and encourage me here.
>> /A
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 16:08 skrev Erik Burggraaf :
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> 
>>> The android file transfer for mac is deficient as you saw.  I also tried
>>> an android app called droidnas.  This is a very cool idea.  You can get it
>>> from the play store.  I didn't get it to work but could be they have
>>> improved it or something about your devices will click.
>>> 
>>> Sharing a folder via ftp from your mac is a fabulous idea.  Turbo ftp from
>>> the play store is accessible and you can do the transfers quickly over
>>> wifi.
>>> 
>>> I think ES file explorer now has a network transfer option so you could
>>> look at that.
>>> 
>>> Finally there is tonido personal cloud and it's companion android app
>>> which also should work but provide you more flexible options such as
>>> secure streaming of media.
>>> 
>>> I lost interest in this topic when my mac went off to the great
>>> electronics recycler in the sky, but I did try to start a discussion on
>>> inclusive android when it was something I needed hard core and couldn't
>>> get.  You could try renewing that topic and see if any one else has
>>> ideas.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Erik
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On April 14, 2017 9:56:20 AM Anders Holmberg 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
 Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
 /A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
> :
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than
> I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily
> arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But
> then again I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop
> in the first place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished
> with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>> :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag
>>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for
>>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the
>>> same time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg 
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer
 app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only
 way to move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command
 tab to file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want
 the file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file
 and after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was
 unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the
 mac?
 /A
 
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RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Simon Fogarty]

Is this just for file transfers between your devices?

I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.



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Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>>> time.
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
>>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
>>>> move files.
>>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
>>>> file transfer for android.
>>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
>>>> file to be stored to.
>>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>>>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
>>>> /A
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Anders , have your email on both devices, and transfer it that way,

On 4/14/17, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> It sure helps a lot.
> Thanks for your great encouragement on this topic.
> I am very happy with this list as always.
> People really helps and encourage me here.
> /A
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 16:08 skrev Erik Burggraaf :
>>
>> Hi Anders,
>>
>> The android file transfer for mac is deficient as you saw.  I also tried
>> an android app called droidnas.  This is a very cool idea.  You can get it
>> from the play store.  I didn't get it to work but could be they have
>> improved it or something about your devices will click.
>>
>> Sharing a folder via ftp from your mac is a fabulous idea.  Turbo ftp from
>> the play store is accessible and you can do the transfers quickly over
>> wifi.
>>
>> I think ES file explorer now has a network transfer option so you could
>> look at that.
>>
>> Finally there is tonido personal cloud and it's companion android app
>> which also should work but provide you more flexible options such as
>> secure streaming of media.
>>
>> I lost interest in this topic when my mac went off to the great
>> electronics recycler in the sky, but I did try to start a discussion on
>> inclusive android when it was something I needed hard core and couldn't
>> get.  You could try renewing that topic and see if any one else has
>> ideas.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Erik
>>
>>
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>>
>> On April 14, 2017 9:56:20 AM Anders Holmberg 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>>> /A
 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
 :

 It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than
 I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily
 arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But
 then again I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop
 in the first place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished
 with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw it work.

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg 
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> So they have to be side by side for example?
> How do i get them side by side then?
> /A
>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>> :
>>
>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag
>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for
>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are
>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the
>> same time.
>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer
>>> app?
>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only
>>> way to move files.
>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command
>>> tab to file transfer for android.
>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want
>>> the file to be stored to.
>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file
>>> and after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was
>>> unsuccessful.
>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the
>>> mac?
>>> /A
>>>
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It sure helps a lot.
Thanks for your great encouragement on this topic.
I am very happy with this list as always.
People really helps and encourage me here.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 16:08 skrev Erik Burggraaf :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> The android file transfer for mac is deficient as you saw.  I also tried an 
> android app called droidnas.  This is a very cool idea.  You can get it from 
> the play store.  I didn't get it to work but could be they have improved it 
> or something about your devices will click.
> 
> Sharing a folder via ftp from your mac is a fabulous idea.  Turbo ftp from 
> the play store is accessible and you can do the transfers quickly over wifi.
> 
> I think ES file explorer now has a network transfer option so you could look 
> at that.
> 
> Finally there is tonido personal cloud and it's companion android app which 
> also should work but provide you more flexible options such as secure 
> streaming of media.
> 
> I lost interest in this topic when my mac went off to the great electronics 
> recycler in the sky, but I did try to start a discussion on inclusive android 
> when it was something I needed hard core and couldn't get.  You could try 
> renewing that topic and see if any one else has ideas.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> On April 14, 2017 9:56:20 AM Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>> /A
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
>>> I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
>>> control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 So they have to be side by side for example?
 How do i get them side by side then?
 /A
> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
> :
> 
> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag 
> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for 
> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
> same time.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer 
>> app?
>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way 
>> to move files.
>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab 
>> to file transfer for android.
>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
>> file to be stored to.
>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the 
>> mac?
>> /A
>> 
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Tim,
Yes keyboard  commander for sure!
I use the "slash key for mouse down" and the "Star key" on the num pad for 
mouse up.
I use this all the time in avid's pro tools for moving tracks around and 
copying inserts from track to track.
for me since the slash is to the left of the star key It reminds me of being 
the first thing to do which is to "mouse down" on the thing to be moved then I 
navigate with the "VO hot spots" to where I drop the track with the "star key" 
which is physically next to the slash key.
Keeps things in perspective for me, like signal flow in the audio field! :)
HTH
Chuck

On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Scot,
> 
> You could always set up your own easier key combination for the mouse down 
> and mouse up actions in the Keyboard commander.  I think I used the letter d 
> for mouse down and shift-d for the up.  Yeah, I understand, our old brains 
> can't always fathom these multi-key commands, especially when they expect 
> t"Twister" style finger movement ;).
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 23:40, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Wow just reading that makes my head and hands hurt from trying to remember to 
> hit all the key commands.;)
> 
> I’m glad it’s not just me who has issues with drag and drop.  Thanks for this 
> detailed message Tim.
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:07 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The VO-comma and VO-period Drag & Drop process does not work well, or even 
>> at all when attempting this action between windows.  It usually only works 
>> for within one window.  I've been successful with the old Drag & Drop method 
>> whereby you press VO-cmd-shift-space to invoke mouse down action, then use 
>> the Window Chooser VO-f2-f2 to switch windows, then VO-cmd-shift-space to 
>> invoke the mouse up action, thus dropping the item.  Often you need to make 
>> sure that the mouse cursor is in the proper location by pressing VO-cmd-f5 
>> prior to the mouse down and mouse up actions.  It is not successful in all 
>> situations, but is more likely to work for you in the sort of situation 
>> you're working with.  Occasionally, you made need to turn off cursor 
>> tracking with VO-shift-f3 as well.  Remember to turn it back on though after 
>> you're done, otherwise, you'll have other frustrations.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 21:03, Larry Thacker Jr.  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
>> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
>> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>> /A
 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
 :
 
 If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
 drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
 operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
 overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
 same time.
 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
> move files.
> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
> file transfer for android.
> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
> file to be stored to.
> I have opened it with command down arrow.
> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
> /A
> 
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Anders,

The android file transfer for mac is deficient as you saw.  I also tried an 
android app called droidnas.  This is a very cool idea.  You can get it 
from the play store.  I didn't get it to work but could be they have 
improved it or something about your devices will click.


Sharing a folder via ftp from your mac is a fabulous idea.  Turbo ftp from 
the play store is accessible and you can do the transfers quickly over wifi.


I think ES file explorer now has a network transfer option so you could 
look at that.


Finally there is tonido personal cloud and it's companion android app which 
also should work but provide you more flexible options such as secure 
streaming of media.


I lost interest in this topic when my mac went off to the great electronics 
recycler in the sky, but I did try to start a discussion on inclusive 
android when it was something I needed hard core and couldn't get.  You 
could try renewing that topic and see if any one else has ideas.


Hope this helps,

Erik


Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On April 14, 2017 9:56:20 AM Anders Holmberg  wrote:


Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A

14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :

It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
control hotkeys but I never saw it work.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
So they have to be side by side for example?
How do i get them side by side then?
/A

13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :

If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
time.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
move files.

But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
file transfer for android.
Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
to be stored to.

I have opened it with command down arrow.
Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.

Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
/A

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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Scot,

You could always set up your own easier key combination for the mouse down and 
mouse up actions in the Keyboard commander.  I think I used the letter d for 
mouse down and shift-d for the up.  Yeah, I understand, our old brains can't 
always fathom these multi-key commands, especially when they expect t"Twister" 
style finger movement ;).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 13, 2017, at 23:40, Scott Granados  wrote:

Wow just reading that makes my head and hands hurt from trying to remember to 
hit all the key commands.;)

I’m glad it’s not just me who has issues with drag and drop.  Thanks for this 
detailed message Tim.

> On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:07 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The VO-comma and VO-period Drag & Drop process does not work well, or even at 
> all when attempting this action between windows.  It usually only works for 
> within one window.  I've been successful with the old Drag & Drop method 
> whereby you press VO-cmd-shift-space to invoke mouse down action, then use 
> the Window Chooser VO-f2-f2 to switch windows, then VO-cmd-shift-space to 
> invoke the mouse up action, thus dropping the item.  Often you need to make 
> sure that the mouse cursor is in the proper location by pressing VO-cmd-f5 
> prior to the mouse down and mouse up actions.  It is not successful in all 
> situations, but is more likely to work for you in the sort of situation 
> you're working with.  Occasionally, you made need to turn off cursor tracking 
> with VO-shift-f3 as well.  Remember to turn it back on though after you're 
> done, otherwise, you'll have other frustrations.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 21:03, Larry Thacker Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>>> time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
 move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
 file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
 file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
 after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
 /A
 
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, i could at least try this to see if it helps.
Otherwise i have to set up some ftp servers or maybe by sync mate which has a 
the ability to paste and copy.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 06:07 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The VO-comma and VO-period Drag & Drop process does not work well, or even at 
> all when attempting this action between windows.  It usually only works for 
> within one window.  I've been successful with the old Drag & Drop method 
> whereby you press VO-cmd-shift-space to invoke mouse down action, then use 
> the Window Chooser VO-f2-f2 to switch windows, then VO-cmd-shift-space to 
> invoke the mouse up action, thus dropping the item.  Often you need to make 
> sure that the mouse cursor is in the proper location by pressing VO-cmd-f5 
> prior to the mouse down and mouse up actions.  It is not successful in all 
> situations, but is more likely to work for you in the sort of situation 
> you're working with.  Occasionally, you made need to turn off cursor tracking 
> with VO-shift-f3 as well.  Remember to turn it back on though after you're 
> done, otherwise, you'll have other frustrations.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 21:03, Larry Thacker Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>>> time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
 move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
 file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
 file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
 after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>>> time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
 move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
 file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
 file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
 after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Scott Granados]

Wow just reading that makes my head and hands hurt from trying to remember to 
hit all the key commands.;)

I’m glad it’s not just me who has issues with drag and drop.  Thanks for this 
detailed message Tim.

> On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:07 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The VO-comma and VO-period Drag & Drop process does not work well, or even at 
> all when attempting this action between windows.  It usually only works for 
> within one window.  I've been successful with the old Drag & Drop method 
> whereby you press VO-cmd-shift-space to invoke mouse down action, then use 
> the Window Chooser VO-f2-f2 to switch windows, then VO-cmd-shift-space to 
> invoke the mouse up action, thus dropping the item.  Often you need to make 
> sure that the mouse cursor is in the proper location by pressing VO-cmd-f5 
> prior to the mouse down and mouse up actions.  It is not successful in all 
> situations, but is more likely to work for you in the sort of situation 
> you're working with.  Occasionally, you made need to turn off cursor tracking 
> with VO-shift-f3 as well.  Remember to turn it back on though after you're 
> done, otherwise, you'll have other frustrations.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 21:03, Larry Thacker Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>>> time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
 move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
 file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
 file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
 after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
 /A
 
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The VO-comma and VO-period Drag & Drop process does not work well, or even at 
all when attempting this action between windows.  It usually only works for 
within one window.  I've been successful with the old Drag & Drop method 
whereby you press VO-cmd-shift-space to invoke mouse down action, then use the 
Window Chooser VO-f2-f2 to switch windows, then VO-cmd-shift-space to invoke 
the mouse up action, thus dropping the item.  Often you need to make sure that 
the mouse cursor is in the proper location by pressing VO-cmd-f5 prior to the 
mouse down and mouse up actions.  It is not successful in all situations, but 
is more likely to work for you in the sort of situation you're working with.  
Occasionally, you made need to turn off cursor tracking with VO-shift-f3 as 
well.  Remember to turn it back on though after you're done, otherwise, you'll 
have other frustrations.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 13, 2017, at 21:03, Larry Thacker Jr.  wrote:

It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I can 
answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange things 
with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I never met 
a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first place.  Oh 
technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control hotkeys but I 
never saw it work.

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> So they have to be side by side for example?
> How do i get them side by side then?
> /A
>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>> 
>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>> time.
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
>>> move files.
>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
>>> file transfer for android.
>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
>>> to be stored to.
>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
>>> /A
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I can 
answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange things 
with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I never met 
a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first place.  Oh 
technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control hotkeys but I 
never saw it work.

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> So they have to be side by side for example?
> How do i get them side by side then?
> /A
>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>> 
>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>> time.
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
>>> move files.
>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
>>> file transfer for android.
>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
>>> to be stored to.
>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
>>> /A
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
So they have to be side by side for example?
How do i get them side by side then?
/A
> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
> 
> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
> time.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
>> move files.
>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
>> file transfer for android.
>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
>> to be stored to.
>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
>> /A
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are overlapping 
and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same time.

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
> move files.
> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
> file transfer for android.
> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
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> I have opened it with command down arrow.
> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Yes,it appears to be at:

https://www.google.com/drive/download/


On 13 April 2017 at 09:10, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> Hi!
> Yes i could.
> Is there a google drive app for mac?
> /A
>
> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 14:46 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
>
> Could you store on Google drive?
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:08 AM Anders Holmberg 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to
>> move files.
>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to
>> file transfer for android.
>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the
>> file to be stored to.
>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and
>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
>> /A
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes i could.
Is there a google drive app for mac?
/A
> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 14:46 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> Could you store on Google drive?
> 
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:08 AM Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> Hi!
> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
> move files.
> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
> file transfer for android.
> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
> to be stored to.
> I have opened it with command down arrow.
> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
> /A
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Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Could you store on Google drive?

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:08 AM Anders Holmberg 
wrote:

> Hi!
> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to
> move files.
> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to
> file transfer for android.
> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the
> file to be stored to.
> I have opened it with command down arrow.
> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and
> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
> /A
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File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to move 
files.
But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to file 
transfer for android.
Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file to 
be stored to.
I have opened it with command down arrow.
Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and after 
a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
/A

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