Re: First steps into using iPhone for orientation
This is not just a problem with blind individuals. I regularly have Lyft riders drive past my house and turn left on the street beyond my house because their navigation is confused in dividing the street up. I even got a lower cost then predicted because Lyft claimed I got out before the ride was complete. In some cases with Blind Square you can adjust the location of a point of interest when they are based on address, so when you visit the place a second time, GPS will be a bit more accurate. Blind Square also has an indicator at the bottom middle that guesses at the accuracy of the GPS. Best Wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Jul 5, 2018, at 3:26 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I know from many previous posts that many of you have been using your iPhone > to orient yourselves around unfamiliar environments, including finding > doorways, shops, businesses etc. I’m in this position now that I have to be > able to find a a particular doorway/entrance, in a row of entrances in a > street. I want to ask you how you accomplish this, what navigation software > you use & how accurate it is. I’ve just tried Google Maps but it informed me > I had arrived at my destination about a hundred of steps before I actually > found the door almost having to feel for it doorway by doorway. This was a > bit humiliating. There are so many navigation apps that I’m truly lost - > Lazarillo being the latest I’ve seen. How can I walk along a street and find > with a good degree of accuracy the entrance I need? > > Also, I feel that if I want to use my iPhone to navigate round town, I need a > bluetooth headset that wouldn’t muffle other sounds that may be crucial for > my safety. What do you use/recommend? I am a long cane user by the way so > all this has to do with walking. Feel free to email me off-list. > > Many thanks > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: First steps into using iPhone for orientation
Hello Sandi, This is the second AfterShokz headset I’ve had but I don’t think this particular model is still being made. However, there seem to be a couple of wired versions still available with mic of course. I find them really good for getting around Paris which is pretty noisy. My hearing isn’t great anymore, so bone-conduction works well for me. I also use them at home when my husband is working in the same room as me so as not to drive him insane with VoiceOver, and he says he can’t hear anything from them when I have the volume high enough for my own comfort. Cheers, Anne > On 6 Jul 2018, at 09:01, Sandi Jazmin Kruse wrote: > > Anne , what model exactly do you have , ive been wanting to give the > aftershocks a go. but didnt want the bluetooth version. how well does > the hedset work, how clear is the sound when its send through your > bones? > > On 7/5/18, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Hello Andrew, >> >> The accuracy of any GPS app depends on the visibility of the satellites to >> the iPhone. You’ll never get anything much better than 10 metres and often >> it’s no where near that. I suggest that once your GPS solution has told you >> that you’ve arrived, you use Seeing AI to look at the buildings around you. >> I second Jason’s suggestion for bone-conduction headphones. I use the wired >> AfterShokz and I know AfterShokz does BlueTooth versions. You’ll find a good >> choice on Amazon. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >>> On 5 Jul 2018, at 21:26, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I know from many previous posts that many of you have been using your >>> iPhone to orient yourselves around unfamiliar environments, including >>> finding doorways, shops, businesses etc. I’m in this position now that I >>> have to be able to find a a particular doorway/entrance, in a row of >>> entrances in a street. I want to ask you how you accomplish this, what >>> navigation software you use & how accurate it is. I’ve just tried Google >>> Maps but it informed me I had arrived at my destination about a hundred of >>> steps before I actually found the door almost having to feel for it >>> doorway by doorway. This was a bit humiliating. There are so many >>> navigation apps that I’m truly lost - Lazarillo being the latest I’ve >>> seen. How can I walk along a street and find with a good degree of >>> accuracy the entrance I need? >>> >>> Also, I feel that if I want to use my iPhone to navigate round town, I >>> need a bluetooth headset that wouldn’t muffle other sounds that may be >>> crucial for my safety. What do you use/recommend? I am a long cane user >>> by the way so all this has to do with walking. Feel free to email me >>> off-list. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > The following information is
Re: First steps into using iPhone for orientation
Hello, There are no GPS apps which will provide the degree of accuracy you are hoping for. With a good GPS signal, the apps will get you to within a few shops of where you wish to go. However, many factors, including how big are the buildings around you, how clear is your view of the sky where the satelites are, how sunny vs cloudy the sky, and so forth. There is a free app called Be My Eyes which can help. When one gets to the GPS announcement of arriving, one can use Be My Eyes, and ask the volunteer to describe where you are. Be My Eyes uses the back camera on the phone so the volunteer can see what the camera is looking at. I do not use the bone induction headset. I do use Apple's Air Pods. I find that one AirPod does not eclude my hearing too much, so I am still able to hear the environmental sounds for orientation. There is an audio shadow, but I find it workable. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Jul 2018, at 05:26, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I know from many previous posts that many of you have been using your iPhone > to orient yourselves around unfamiliar environments, including finding > doorways, shops, businesses etc. I’m in this position now that I have to be > able to find a a particular doorway/entrance, in a row of entrances in a > street. I want to ask you how you accomplish this, what navigation software > you use & how accurate it is. I’ve just tried Google Maps but it informed me > I had arrived at my destination about a hundred of steps before I actually > found the door almost having to feel for it doorway by doorway. This was a > bit humiliating. There are so many navigation apps that I’m truly lost - > Lazarillo being the latest I’ve seen. How can I walk along a street and find > with a good degree of accuracy the entrance I need? > > Also, I feel that if I want to use my iPhone to navigate round town, I need a > bluetooth headset that wouldn’t muffle other sounds that may be crucial for > my safety. What do you use/recommend? I am a long cane user by the way so > all this has to do with walking. Feel free to email me off-list. > > Many thanks > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: First steps into using iPhone for orientation
Anne , what model exactly do you have , ive been wanting to give the aftershocks a go. but didnt want the bluetooth version. how well does the hedset work, how clear is the sound when its send through your bones? On 7/5/18, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Andrew, > > The accuracy of any GPS app depends on the visibility of the satellites to > the iPhone. You’ll never get anything much better than 10 metres and often > it’s no where near that. I suggest that once your GPS solution has told you > that you’ve arrived, you use Seeing AI to look at the buildings around you. > I second Jason’s suggestion for bone-conduction headphones. I use the wired > AfterShokz and I know AfterShokz does BlueTooth versions. You’ll find a good > choice on Amazon. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > >> On 5 Jul 2018, at 21:26, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I know from many previous posts that many of you have been using your >> iPhone to orient yourselves around unfamiliar environments, including >> finding doorways, shops, businesses etc. I’m in this position now that I >> have to be able to find a a particular doorway/entrance, in a row of >> entrances in a street. I want to ask you how you accomplish this, what >> navigation software you use & how accurate it is. I’ve just tried Google >> Maps but it informed me I had arrived at my destination about a hundred of >> steps before I actually found the door almost having to feel for it >> doorway by doorway. This was a bit humiliating. There are so many >> navigation apps that I’m truly lost - Lazarillo being the latest I’ve >> seen. How can I walk along a street and find with a good degree of >> accuracy the entrance I need? >> >> Also, I feel that if I want to use my iPhone to navigate round town, I >> need a bluetooth headset that wouldn’t muffle other sounds that may be >> crucial for my safety. What do you use/recommend? I am a long cane user >> by the way so all this has to do with walking. Feel free to email me >> off-list. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Andrew >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: First steps into using iPhone for orientation
Hello Andrew, The accuracy of any GPS app depends on the visibility of the satellites to the iPhone. You’ll never get anything much better than 10 metres and often it’s no where near that. I suggest that once your GPS solution has told you that you’ve arrived, you use Seeing AI to look at the buildings around you. I second Jason’s suggestion for bone-conduction headphones. I use the wired AfterShokz and I know AfterShokz does BlueTooth versions. You’ll find a good choice on Amazon. Cheers, Anne > On 5 Jul 2018, at 21:26, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I know from many previous posts that many of you have been using your iPhone > to orient yourselves around unfamiliar environments, including finding > doorways, shops, businesses etc. I’m in this position now that I have to be > able to find a a particular doorway/entrance, in a row of entrances in a > street. I want to ask you how you accomplish this, what navigation software > you use & how accurate it is. I’ve just tried Google Maps but it informed me > I had arrived at my destination about a hundred of steps before I actually > found the door almost having to feel for it doorway by doorway. This was a > bit humiliating. There are so many navigation apps that I’m truly lost - > Lazarillo being the latest I’ve seen. How can I walk along a street and find > with a good degree of accuracy the entrance I need? > > Also, I feel that if I want to use my iPhone to navigate round town, I need a > bluetooth headset that wouldn’t muffle other sounds that may be crucial for > my safety. What do you use/recommend? I am a long cane user by the way so > all this has to do with walking. Feel free to email me off-list. > > Many thanks > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: First steps into using iPhone for orientation
A good bone conduction headset would be ideal, as it doesn't interfere with environmental sounds. I haven't checked whether there are Bluetooth-capable models available though. Has anyone here tried Microsoft Soundscape? If so, I would be interested in comments. I've downloaded it, but I haven't managed to get to the point of experimenting with it yet. On 7/5/18, 15:26, "'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries" wrote: Hi, I know from many previous posts that many of you have been using your iPhone to orient yourselves around unfamiliar environments, including finding doorways, shops, businesses etc. I’m in this position now that I have to be able to find a a particular doorway/entrance, in a row of entrances in a street. I want to ask you how you accomplish this, what navigation software you use & how accurate it is. I’ve just tried Google Maps but it informed me I had arrived at my destination about a hundred of steps before I actually found the door almost having to feel for it doorway by doorway. This was a bit humiliating. There are so many navigation apps that I’m truly lost - Lazarillo being the latest I’ve seen. How can I walk along a street and find with a good degree of accuracy the entrance I need? Also, I feel that if I want to use my iPhone to navigate round town, I need a bluetooth headset that wouldn’t muffle other sounds that may be crucial for my safety. What do you use/recommend? I am a long cane user by the way so all this has to do with walking. Feel free to email me off-list. Many thanks Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
First steps into using iPhone for orientation
Hi, I know from many previous posts that many of you have been using your iPhone to orient yourselves around unfamiliar environments, including finding doorways, shops, businesses etc. I’m in this position now that I have to be able to find a a particular doorway/entrance, in a row of entrances in a street. I want to ask you how you accomplish this, what navigation software you use & how accurate it is. I’ve just tried Google Maps but it informed me I had arrived at my destination about a hundred of steps before I actually found the door almost having to feel for it doorway by doorway. This was a bit humiliating. There are so many navigation apps that I’m truly lost - Lazarillo being the latest I’ve seen. How can I walk along a street and find with a good degree of accuracy the entrance I need? Also, I feel that if I want to use my iPhone to navigate round town, I need a bluetooth headset that wouldn’t muffle other sounds that may be crucial for my safety. What do you use/recommend? I am a long cane user by the way so all this has to do with walking. Feel free to email me off-list. Many thanks Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
