Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?
Hi folks, I did the upgrade and all went well. No longer able to use my 32 bit version of Microsoft word. But, for my purposes Pages seems to be working out very nicely and I have Text Edit as well for some things. I am not sure I want to add more to my learning curve right now with Windows. Thanks for the tips and encouragement. One note. In a earlier thread about back up solutions I mentioned liking Carbon Copy Cloner. In the process of upgrading I needed again to give Carbon Copy Cloner some permissions. This was not easy to do. They wanted me to drag a file into a table. It was a fish icon. I remember years ago writing to the developer and explaining it was not easy for a blind person using voice over to do. It has not been changed. He did send me a way to do it but it was not easy and ended up just having my sighted partner drag it over. So, though I have not used Super Duper I’d take the advice given by Robert Carter and go that route for a application that does Cloning. I’ll stick to what I have as it is working and paid for but I won’t upgrade it in the future. So far, I’m enjoying Catalina. Eric Caron > On Mar 13, 2020, at 1:53 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well I've been beta testing Catalina when it first got released to developers > and I love it. The thing that sold me the most about it is the fact that we > can now use the Siri voices with Voiceover like we could on iOS. > > Regards, > Shawn, > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air > > Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility > Matters or my new group, Mac Users And Newbies? Send me a private email with > your contact information and I'll happily add you. > > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > >> On Mar 12, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> >> Hi! >> I think you should upgrade as you get the latest security then. >> It works quite well for most of the time. >> There are some issues for me with braille and i guess this wont be fixed for >> quite some time since braille isn’t quite important for apple. >> But things work as they should. >> Be aware thought that Itunes is gone and you have to learn the new music app. >> /A >> >>> 12 mars 2020 kl. 00:32 skrev Eric Caron : >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. >>> >>> I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and >>> worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS? I’m currently >>> working in Mojave. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/757C600B-56BD-4AD7-9F4D-5E2477464607%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8B125789-995C-4499-83D7-3AE5189DEB98%40pipkrokodil.se. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a
Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?
Well I've been beta testing Catalina when it first got released to developers and I love it. The thing that sold me the most about it is the fact that we can now use the Siri voices with Voiceover like we could on iOS. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters or my new group, Mac Users And Newbies? Send me a private email with your contact information and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Mar 12, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > I think you should upgrade as you get the latest security then. > It works quite well for most of the time. > There are some issues for me with braille and i guess this wont be fixed for > quite some time since braille isn’t quite important for apple. > But things work as they should. > Be aware thought that Itunes is gone and you have to learn the new music app. > /A > >> 12 mars 2020 kl. 00:32 skrev Eric Caron : >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. >> >> I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and >> worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS? I’m currently >> working in Mojave. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/757C600B-56BD-4AD7-9F4D-5E2477464607%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8B125789-995C-4499-83D7-3AE5189DEB98%40pipkrokodil.se. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4A622196-B0D8-4125-9B40-63BCF5BDFEB0%40icloud.com.
Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?
Hi! I think you should upgrade as you get the latest security then. It works quite well for most of the time. There are some issues for me with braille and i guess this wont be fixed for quite some time since braille isn’t quite important for apple. But things work as they should. Be aware thought that Itunes is gone and you have to learn the new music app. /A > 12 mars 2020 kl. 00:32 skrev Eric Caron : > > Hi folks, > > Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. > > I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and > worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS? I’m currently > working in Mojave. > > Eric Caron > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/757C600B-56BD-4AD7-9F4D-5E2477464607%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8B125789-995C-4499-83D7-3AE5189DEB98%40pipkrokodil.se.
Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?
Other than no more 32-bit support and iTunes having been replaced by 3 apps- Music, TV, and Podcasts, and some minor changes here and there, it is stable. I installed Catalina soon after its release. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 3/11/2020 4:32 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi folks, Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS? I’m currently working in Mojave. Eric Caron -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20ff34df-811f-704a-bb00-08caacd0c357%40icloud.com.
Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?
I did the upgrade to Catalina on both my Macs about 4 months ago, and have had no issues with either the OS or VoiceOver. The Catalina OS seems pretty solid. Unless you have 32-bit apps you can’t live without, I’d go ahead and do the upgrade. - Brad - On Mar 11, 2020, at 20:00, Brandon Olivares wrote: I’d upgrade. I did a few weeks ago and I love it. It’s much faster to me. > On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > I decided to just wait until the next os comes out this fall. from my past > experience I would say that it's likely to be a better version of Catalina. I > like Mojave just fine so I can wait. > >> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. >> >> I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and >> worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS? I’m currently >> working in Mojave. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/757C600B-56BD-4AD7-9F4D-5E2477464607%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FAD7465E-0103-4213-B37B-7AB5DB37D438%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/84858550-426D-417F-873B-E32D52DB0AC7%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D239F756-961F-40FC-8B11-1F77957D139B%40swbell.net.
Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?
I’d upgrade. I did a few weeks ago and I love it. It’s much faster to me. > On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > I decided to just wait until the next os comes out this fall. from my past > experience I would say that it's likely to be a better version of Catalina. I > like Mojave just fine so I can wait. > >> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. >> >> I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and >> worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS? I’m currently >> working in Mojave. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/757C600B-56BD-4AD7-9F4D-5E2477464607%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FAD7465E-0103-4213-B37B-7AB5DB37D438%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/84858550-426D-417F-873B-E32D52DB0AC7%40gmail.com.
Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?
I decided to just wait until the next os comes out this fall. from my past experience I would say that it's likely to be a better version of Catalina. I like Mojave just fine so I can wait. > On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. > > I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and > worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS? I’m currently > working in Mojave. > > Eric Caron > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/757C600B-56BD-4AD7-9F4D-5E2477464607%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FAD7465E-0103-4213-B37B-7AB5DB37D438%40gmail.com.
Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?
The new OS has a lot of security features. But personally, except for some additional configurations in Braille, I have seen little day to day differences for me between the two systems. Though I have to say, I spend very little time in iTUnes/Music/Podcasts so if you use these applications you will definitely see differences in Catalina. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. > > I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and > worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS? I’m currently > working in Mojave. > > Eric Caron > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/757C600B-56BD-4AD7-9F4D-5E2477464607%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAD51A28-3FC4-42D5-BD62-CF4A70EE1FF8%40gmail.com.
Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?
Hi folks, Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS? I’m currently working in Mojave. Eric Caron -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/757C600B-56BD-4AD7-9F4D-5E2477464607%40gmail.com.
