Re: Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ???

2024-03-02 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I looked for updates on this but could not find anything. I expect Apple needs 
to change something in their entitlements before per-app  sound grabbing can 
occur on the computer. Perhaps when the .4 update to Sonoma comes out we will 
hear more about this.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 1, 2024, at 8:54 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just wondering whether there's any update re Rogue Amoeba's dropping
> their dependency on hacking security settings. I've decided to update
> only afterwards.
> 
> Thanks!
> Janina
> 
> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>> This sounds like great news.
>> https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/
>>  
>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/>
>>  
>> Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier
>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>
>> I love Rogue Amoeba???s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era, 
>> installing them has been pretty rough 
>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2020/11/rogue-amoebas-apps-updated-for-m1-with-a-catch/>,
>>  due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to 
>> perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac???s ???security policy.???
>> 
>> There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an 
>> otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba???s year 
>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>, CEO Paul 
>> Kafasis wrote:
>> 
>> We???ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact, 
>> Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that 
>> won???t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and 
>> SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won???t 
>> require a single system restart. It???s going to be an incredible 
>> improvement to our user experience.
>> 
>> As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and SoundSource 
>> multiple times in the last few months??? this is pretty fantastic news. (How 
>> in the world will Audio Hijack not even require an administrator password?! 
>> 
>> 
>> )
>> 
>> This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to 
>> everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on 
>> the problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS???s most clever and 
>> useful utilities run without these issues.
>> 
>> ???Linked by Jason Snell
>> 
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ???

2024-03-02 Thread Brad Snyder
Yes, you do it once and never ever do it again. Doesn't matter if you update 
the application or the macOS. Once it's done, it's done forever on that machine 
for all rogue amoeba apps.

- Brad -

On Mar 2, 2024, at 05:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

But that's my concern! I would agree with "set and forget" as long as
you don't update. But does that hold if you update to the latest release
of MacOS? I suspect not, and that's the reason to wait, imo.

Best,
Janina

Herbie Allen writes:
> I do hope they make updates, but you only have to do the changes once with 
> whichever app you first install. Then it???s set and forget.
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2024, at 08:19, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been wondering the same thing. I guess this gives me a reason
>> to wait and not purchase at this time if they plan on changing this.
>> 
>> On 3/1/24, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering whether there's any update re Rogue Amoeba's dropping
>>> their dependency on hacking security settings. I've decided to update
>>> only afterwards.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>>>> This sounds like great news.
>>>> https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/
>>>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/>
>>>> 
>>>> Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier
>>>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>
>>>> I love Rogue Amoeba???s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era,
>>>> installing them has been pretty rough
>>>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2020/11/rogue-amoebas-apps-updated-for-m1-with-a-catch/>,
>>>> due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to
>>>> perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac???s ???security policy.???
>>>> 
>>>> There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an
>>>> otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba???s year
>>>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>, CEO Paul
>>>> Kafasis wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We???ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact,
>>>> Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that
>>>> won???t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and
>>>> SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won???t
>>>> require a single system restart. It???s going to be an incredible
>>>> improvement to our user experience.
>>>> 
>>>> As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and
>>>> SoundSource multiple times in the last few months??? this is pretty
>>>> fantastic news. (How in the world will Audio Hijack not even require an
>>>> administrator password?!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> )
>>>> 
>>>> This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to
>>>> everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on
>>>> the problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS???s most clever
>>>> and useful utilities run without these issues.
>>>> 
>>>> ???Linked by Jason Snell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ???

2024-03-02 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
But that's my concern! I would agree with "set and forget" as long as
you don't update. But does that hold if you update to the latest release
of MacOS? I suspect not, and that's the reason to wait, imo.

Best,
Janina

Herbie Allen writes:
> I do hope they make updates, but you only have to do the changes once with 
> whichever app you first install. Then it???s set and forget. 
> 
> > On Mar 1, 2024, at 08:19, lenron brown  wrote:
> > 
> > I have been wondering the same thing. I guess this gives me a reason
> > to wait and not purchase at this time if they plan on changing this.
> > 
> > On 3/1/24, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Just wondering whether there's any update re Rogue Amoeba's dropping
> >> their dependency on hacking security settings. I've decided to update
> >> only afterwards.
> >> 
> >> Thanks!
> >> Janina
> >> 
> >> Jonathan Cohn writes:
> >>> This sounds like great news.
> >>> https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/
> >>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/>
> >>> 
> >>> Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier
> >>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>
> >>> I love Rogue Amoeba???s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era,
> >>> installing them has been pretty rough
> >>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2020/11/rogue-amoebas-apps-updated-for-m1-with-a-catch/>,
> >>> due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to
> >>> perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac???s ???security policy.???
> >>> 
> >>> There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an
> >>> otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba???s year
> >>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>, CEO Paul
> >>> Kafasis wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> We???ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact,
> >>> Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that
> >>> won???t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and
> >>> SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won???t
> >>> require a single system restart. It???s going to be an incredible
> >>> improvement to our user experience.
> >>> 
> >>> As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and
> >>> SoundSource multiple times in the last few months??? this is pretty
> >>> fantastic news. (How in the world will Audio Hijack not even require an
> >>> administrator password?!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> )
> >>> 
> >>> This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to
> >>> everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on
> >>> the problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS???s most clever
> >>> and useful utilities run without these issues.
> >>> 
> >>> ???Linked by Jason Snell
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>   Best wishes,
> >>> 
> >>> Jonathan Cohn
> >>> 
> >>> 
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Re: Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ???

2024-03-01 Thread Herbie Allen
I do hope they make updates, but you only have to do the changes once with 
whichever app you first install. Then it’s set and forget. 

> On Mar 1, 2024, at 08:19, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I have been wondering the same thing. I guess this gives me a reason
> to wait and not purchase at this time if they plan on changing this.
> 
> On 3/1/24, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just wondering whether there's any update re Rogue Amoeba's dropping
>> their dependency on hacking security settings. I've decided to update
>> only afterwards.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Janina
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>>> This sounds like great news.
>>> https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/
>>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/>
>>> 
>>> Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier
>>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>
>>> I love Rogue Amoeba???s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era,
>>> installing them has been pretty rough
>>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2020/11/rogue-amoebas-apps-updated-for-m1-with-a-catch/>,
>>> due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to
>>> perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac???s ???security policy.???
>>> 
>>> There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an
>>> otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba???s year
>>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>, CEO Paul
>>> Kafasis wrote:
>>> 
>>> We???ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact,
>>> Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that
>>> won???t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and
>>> SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won???t
>>> require a single system restart. It???s going to be an incredible
>>> improvement to our user experience.
>>> 
>>> As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and
>>> SoundSource multiple times in the last few months??? this is pretty
>>> fantastic news. (How in the world will Audio Hijack not even require an
>>> administrator password?!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> )
>>> 
>>> This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to
>>> everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on
>>> the problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS???s most clever
>>> and useful utilities run without these issues.
>>> 
>>> ???Linked by Jason Snell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ???

2024-03-01 Thread lenron brown
I have been wondering the same thing. I guess this gives me a reason
to wait and not purchase at this time if they plan on changing this.

On 3/1/24, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just wondering whether there's any update re Rogue Amoeba's dropping
> their dependency on hacking security settings. I've decided to update
> only afterwards.
>
> Thanks!
> Janina
>
> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>> This sounds like great news.
>> https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/
>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/>
>>
>> Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier
>>  <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>
>> I love Rogue Amoeba???s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era,
>> installing them has been pretty rough
>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2020/11/rogue-amoebas-apps-updated-for-m1-with-a-catch/>,
>> due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to
>> perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac???s ???security policy.???
>>
>> There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an
>> otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba???s year
>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>, CEO Paul
>> Kafasis wrote:
>>
>> We???ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact,
>> Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that
>> won???t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and
>> SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won???t
>> require a single system restart. It???s going to be an incredible
>> improvement to our user experience.
>>
>> As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and
>> SoundSource multiple times in the last few months??? this is pretty
>> fantastic news. (How in the world will Audio Hijack not even require an
>> administrator password?!
>>
>>
>> )
>>
>> This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to
>> everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on
>> the problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS???s most clever
>> and useful utilities run without these issues.
>>
>> ???Linked by Jason Snell
>>
>>
>>  Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ???

2024-03-01 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Just wondering whether there's any update re Rogue Amoeba's dropping
their dependency on hacking security settings. I've decided to update
only afterwards.

Thanks!
Janina

Jonathan Cohn writes:
> This sounds like great news.
> https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/
>  
> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/>
>  
> Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier
>  <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>
> I love Rogue Amoeba???s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era, 
> installing them has been pretty rough 
> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2020/11/rogue-amoebas-apps-updated-for-m1-with-a-catch/>,
>  due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to 
> perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac???s ???security policy.???
> 
> There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an 
> otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba???s year 
> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>, CEO Paul 
> Kafasis wrote:
> 
> We???ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact, 
> Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that 
> won???t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and 
> SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won???t 
> require a single system restart. It???s going to be an incredible improvement 
> to our user experience.
> 
> As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and SoundSource 
> multiple times in the last few months??? this is pretty fantastic news. (How 
> in the world will Audio Hijack not even require an administrator password?! 
> 
> 
> )
> 
> This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to 
> everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on the 
> problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS???s most clever and 
> useful utilities run without these issues.
> 
> ???Linked by Jason Snell
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
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Re: Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ???

2024-01-14 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Yes, very good news indeed!

Janina

lenron brown writes:
> I am pretty excited about this change.
> 
> On 1/10/24, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> > Hi!
> > Well that sounds great.
> > When that comes out I will remove this old one and get the full security
> > thing back.
> > Bless.
> > /A
> >
> >> 10 jan. 2024 kl. 05:12 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> >>
> >> This sounds like great news.
> >> https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/
> >>
> >> Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier
> >>  <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>
> >>
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> >> I love Rogue Amoeba???s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era,
> >> installing them has been pretty rough
> >> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2020/11/rogue-amoebas-apps-updated-for-m1-with-a-catch/>,
> >> due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to
> >> perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac???s ???security policy.???
> >>
> >> There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an
> >> otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba???s year
> >> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>, CEO Paul
> >> Kafasis wrote:
> >>
> >> We???ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact,
> >> Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that
> >> won???t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and
> >> SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won???t
> >> require a single system restart. It???s going to be an incredible
> >> improvement to our user experience.
> >>
> >> As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and
> >> SoundSource multiple times in the last few months??? this is pretty
> >> fantastic news. (How in the world will Audio Hijack not even require an
> >> administrator password?!
> >>
> >>
> >> )
> >>
> >> This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to
> >> everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on
> >> the problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS???s most clever 
> >> and
> >> useful utilities run without these issues.
> >>
> >> ???Linked by Jason Snell
> >>
> >>
> >>Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Jonathan Cohn
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ↦

2024-01-10 Thread lenron brown
I am pretty excited about this change.

On 1/10/24, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> Well that sounds great.
> When that comes out I will remove this old one and get the full security
> thing back.
> Bless.
> /A
>
>> 10 jan. 2024 kl. 05:12 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
>>
>> This sounds like great news.
>> https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/
>>
>> Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier
>>  <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>
>>
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>> 
>> I love Rogue Amoeba’s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era,
>> installing them has been pretty rough
>> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2020/11/rogue-amoebas-apps-updated-for-m1-with-a-catch/>,
>> due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to
>> perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac’s “security policy.”
>>
>> There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an
>> otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba’s year
>> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>, CEO Paul
>> Kafasis wrote:
>>
>> We’ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact,
>> Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that
>> won’t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and
>> SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won’t
>> require a single system restart. It’s going to be an incredible
>> improvement to our user experience.
>>
>> As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and
>> SoundSource multiple times in the last few months… this is pretty
>> fantastic news. (How in the world will Audio Hijack not even require an
>> administrator password?!
>>
>>
>> )
>>
>> This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to
>> everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on
>> the problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS’s most clever and
>> useful utilities run without these issues.
>>
>> —Linked by Jason Snell
>>
>>
>>  Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ↦

2024-01-10 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Well that sounds great.
When that comes out I will remove this old one and get the full security thing 
back.
Bless.
/A

> 10 jan. 2024 kl. 05:12 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> This sounds like great news.
> https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/
>  
> Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier
>  <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>
> 
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> I love Rogue Amoeba’s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era, 
> installing them has been pretty rough 
> <https://sixcolors.com/link/2020/11/rogue-amoebas-apps-updated-for-m1-with-a-catch/>,
>  due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to 
> perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac’s “security policy.”
> 
> There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an 
> otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba’s year 
> <https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2024/01/09/2024-status-report/>, CEO Paul 
> Kafasis wrote:
> 
> We’ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact, 
> Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that 
> won’t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and 
> SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won’t require 
> a single system restart. It’s going to be an incredible improvement to our 
> user experience.
> 
> As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and SoundSource 
> multiple times in the last few months… this is pretty fantastic news. (How in 
> the world will Audio Hijack not even require an administrator password?! 
> 
> 
> )
> 
> This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to 
> everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on the 
> problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS’s most clever and useful 
> utilities run without these issues.
> 
> —Linked by Jason Snell
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier ↦

2024-01-09 Thread Jonathan Cohn
This sounds like great news.https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/01/installing-rogue-amoeba-apps-is-about-to-get-a-lot-easier/ Installing Rogue Amoeba apps is about to get a lot easier



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I love Rogue Amoeba’s Mac audio utilities, but in the Apple silicon era, installing them has been pretty rough, due to Apple requiring multiple reboots and a visit to Recovery Mode to perform a dubious-sounding reduction to a Mac’s “security policy.”There is apparently great news on this front, however! Tucked into an otherwise perfectly nice summation of Rogue Amoeba’s year, CEO Paul Kafasis wrote:We’ll soon be shipping updates that simplify things immensely. In fact, Airfoil, Audio Hijack, and Piezo will feature an installer-free setup that won’t even need your administrator password. Meanwhile, Loopback and SoundSource will use a new audio capture plugin called ARK that won’t require a single system restart. It’s going to be an incredible improvement to our user experience.As someone who has had to reinstall Audio Hijack, Loopback, and SoundSource multiple times in the last few months… this is pretty fantastic news. (How in the world will Audio Hijack not even require an administrator password?! )This has been a real pain point for more than three years, so kudos to everyone (presumably both inside Apple and at Rogue Amoeba) who worked on the problem and found a solution that lets some of macOS’s most clever and useful utilities run without these issues.—Linked by Jason Snell
		Best wishes,Jonathan Cohn






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