Re: Mac Air and Windows

[Scott Davert]

Hi Michelle.
If you have no vision, Bootcamp may be an issue for you once you have
switched to the Windows installation. I have found that Bootcamp makes
Windows run a bit faster on my macbook Air, which has 8 GB of ram, but
even with a virtual machine, things weren't too bad. As Caitlyn
pointed out, whether you choose one or the other will depend on your
system configuration.

HTH,
Scott

On 12/1/15, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> Just to add to what Chris already said, I run a virtual machine on my
> macbook air and it’s extremely fast-much faster then when I had an actual
> windows pc.  Now, granted, I have the fastest processor you can get with the
> mac air, plus I got 8 g of ram, so your mileage might vary depending on what
> specs your macbook air has.  Less ram and a slower processor will make
> things a bit slower.  Whether you notice this or not will depend on what you
> use your virtual machine for.
>
> also, you can install and configure vmware and windows independently.  I
> don’t have any sighted humans around here to help, so this was a great thing
> for me.  I think with boot camp, there is part of the process in which you
> will need sighted assistance.  I do know there is some program to allow
> blind folks to install windows with speech through the whole process, but I
> don’t know if anybody has used this successfully with a mac and boot camp.
>
> hah,
> Caitlyn
>
>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 10:39 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, and you'll find lots of comments in the mailing list archives about
>> it. There are two main ways - BootCamp and VMWare. Bootcamp lets you
>> divide up your hard drive into a mac and Windows partition then you
>> install Windows on its partition and then boot windows. It turns out Macs
>> make pretty fast Wintel boxes. This gets you the fastest Windows
>> performance but you have to reboot to switch between Mac and Windows
>> "mode". You also have to guess ahead of time how much disk space to
>> allocate between the two sides on your hard drive. VMWare lets you create
>> a "virtual machine" that looks like a generic PC to Windows but is
>> actually an app running under OSX. You have to buy VMWare and install
>> that, create the fake virtual machine and then install Windows onto that
>> virtual machine. The nice thing is when you need windows you launch VMWare
>> and your virtual machine. When you're done you just quit like any other
>> app. The Windows side creates a virtual C drive that is just a big file on
>> the Mac. You can tell VMWare to make it 100GB if you want but it will only
>> use as much space as is actually being used by the Windows files. The
>> downside is performance. For modern Macs this isn't a big deal but running
>> Windows on top of OSX is never going to be as fast as running Windows
>> directly on the hardware. So if you don't mind it being a bit slower
>> VMWare will get you a lot of flexibilty but you need Windows to run as
>> fast as possible then BootCamp will be your ticket.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 11/30/15 7:48 PM, Michelle's Home emails wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Michelle here,
>>>
>>> Can I have windows installed on my Mac? So can I have choice of two
>>> operating systems?  Because there are programmers which does not run with
>>> Mac or voiceover that well which windows can handle.
>>>
>>> Pardon my ignorance how is this done?
>>>
>>> I would rather take to  uni my Mac it weighs far less and is great on the
>>> battery life, particularly if I want to study on my long journey home
>>> which is about two to three hours train ride.
>>> Michelle
>>>
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Re: Mac Air and Windows

[Sharon Hooley]

Hi,

What about Parallel Desktop? Does anyone use that to flip back and forth 
between Mac and Windows?



Sharon H.

> On Dec 1, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michelle.
> If you have no vision, Bootcamp may be an issue for you once you have
> switched to the Windows installation. I have found that Bootcamp makes
> Windows run a bit faster on my macbook Air, which has 8 GB of ram, but
> even with a virtual machine, things weren't too bad. As Caitlyn
> pointed out, whether you choose one or the other will depend on your
> system configuration.
> 
> HTH,
> Scott
> 
>> On 12/1/15, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>> Just to add to what Chris already said, I run a virtual machine on my
>> macbook air and it’s extremely fast-much faster then when I had an actual
>> windows pc.  Now, granted, I have the fastest processor you can get with the
>> mac air, plus I got 8 g of ram, so your mileage might vary depending on what
>> specs your macbook air has.  Less ram and a slower processor will make
>> things a bit slower.  Whether you notice this or not will depend on what you
>> use your virtual machine for.
>> 
>> also, you can install and configure vmware and windows independently.  I
>> don’t have any sighted humans around here to help, so this was a great thing
>> for me.  I think with boot camp, there is part of the process in which you
>> will need sighted assistance.  I do know there is some program to allow
>> blind folks to install windows with speech through the whole process, but I
>> don’t know if anybody has used this successfully with a mac and boot camp.
>> 
>> hah,
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 10:39 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, and you'll find lots of comments in the mailing list archives about
>>> it. There are two main ways - BootCamp and VMWare. Bootcamp lets you
>>> divide up your hard drive into a mac and Windows partition then you
>>> install Windows on its partition and then boot windows. It turns out Macs
>>> make pretty fast Wintel boxes. This gets you the fastest Windows
>>> performance but you have to reboot to switch between Mac and Windows
>>> "mode". You also have to guess ahead of time how much disk space to
>>> allocate between the two sides on your hard drive. VMWare lets you create
>>> a "virtual machine" that looks like a generic PC to Windows but is
>>> actually an app running under OSX. You have to buy VMWare and install
>>> that, create the fake virtual machine and then install Windows onto that
>>> virtual machine. The nice thing is when you need windows you launch VMWare
>>> and your virtual machine. When you're done you just quit like any other
>>> app. The Windows side creates a virtual C drive that is just a big file on
>>> the Mac. You can tell VMWare to make it 100GB if you want but it will only
>>> use as much space as is actually being used by the Windows files. The
>>> downside is performance. For modern Macs this isn't a big deal but running
>>> Windows on top of OSX is never going to be as fast as running Windows
>>> directly on the hardware. So if you don't mind it being a bit slower
>>> VMWare will get you a lot of flexibilty but you need Windows to run as
>>> fast as possible then BootCamp will be your ticket.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
 On 11/30/15 7:48 PM, Michelle's Home emails wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Michelle here,
 
 Can I have windows installed on my Mac? So can I have choice of two
 operating systems?  Because there are programmers which does not run with
 Mac or voiceover that well which windows can handle.
 
 Pardon my ignorance how is this done?
 
 I would rather take to  uni my Mac it weighs far less and is great on the
 battery life, particularly if I want to study on my long journey home
 which is about two to three hours train ride.
 Michelle
 
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Re: Mac Air and Windows

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Sharon. If you're talking about Parallels, forget it. It's totally 
inaccessible. The only two ways to get Windows on your Mac is through VMWare 
Fusion or Bootcamp.

Shawn
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> On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What about Parallel Desktop? Does anyone use that to flip back and forth 
> between Mac and Windows?
> 
> 
> 
> Sharon H.
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Scott Davert  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michelle.
>> If you have no vision, Bootcamp may be an issue for you once you have
>> switched to the Windows installation. I have found that Bootcamp makes
>> Windows run a bit faster on my macbook Air, which has 8 GB of ram, but
>> even with a virtual machine, things weren't too bad. As Caitlyn
>> pointed out, whether you choose one or the other will depend on your
>> system configuration.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On 12/1/15, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>>> Just to add to what Chris already said, I run a virtual machine on my
>>> macbook air and it’s extremely fast-much faster then when I had an actual
>>> windows pc.  Now, granted, I have the fastest processor you can get with the
>>> mac air, plus I got 8 g of ram, so your mileage might vary depending on what
>>> specs your macbook air has.  Less ram and a slower processor will make
>>> things a bit slower.  Whether you notice this or not will depend on what you
>>> use your virtual machine for.
>>> 
>>> also, you can install and configure vmware and windows independently.  I
>>> don’t have any sighted humans around here to help, so this was a great thing
>>> for me.  I think with boot camp, there is part of the process in which you
>>> will need sighted assistance.  I do know there is some program to allow
>>> blind folks to install windows with speech through the whole process, but I
>>> don’t know if anybody has used this successfully with a mac and boot camp.
>>> 
>>> hah,
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
 On Nov 30, 2015, at 10:39 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:
 
 Yes, and you'll find lots of comments in the mailing list archives about
 it. There are two main ways - BootCamp and VMWare. Bootcamp lets you
 divide up your hard drive into a mac and Windows partition then you
 install Windows on its partition and then boot windows. It turns out Macs
 make pretty fast Wintel boxes. This gets you the fastest Windows
 performance but you have to reboot to switch between Mac and Windows
 "mode". You also have to guess ahead of time how much disk space to
 allocate between the two sides on your hard drive. VMWare lets you create
 a "virtual machine" that looks like a generic PC to Windows but is
 actually an app running under OSX. You have to buy VMWare and install
 that, create the fake virtual machine and then install Windows onto that
 virtual machine. The nice thing is when you need windows you launch VMWare
 and your virtual machine. When you're done you just quit like any other
 app. The Windows side creates a virtual C drive that is just a big file on
 the Mac. You can tell VMWare to make it 100GB if you want but it will only
 use as much space as is actually being used by the Windows files. The
 downside is performance. For modern Macs this isn't a big deal but running
 Windows on top of OSX is never going to be as fast as running Windows
 directly on the hardware. So if you don't mind it being a bit slower
 VMWare will get you a lot of flexibilty but you need Windows to run as
 fast as possible then BootCamp will be your ticket.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 CB
 
> On 11/30/15 7:48 PM, Michelle's Home emails wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> Michelle here,
> 
> Can I have windows installed on my Mac? So can I have choice of two
> operating systems?  Because there are programmers which does not run with
> Mac or voiceover that well which windows can handle.
> 
> Pardon my ignorance how is this done?
> 
> I would rather take to  uni my Mac it weighs far less and is great on the
> battery life, particularly if I want to study on my long journey home
> which is about two to three hours train ride.
> Michelle
> 
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Re: Mac Air and Windows

[Caitlyn Furness]

Just to add to what Chris already said, I run a virtual machine on my macbook 
air and it’s extremely fast-much faster then when I had an actual windows pc.  
Now, granted, I have the fastest processor you can get with the mac air, plus I 
got 8 g of ram, so your mileage might vary depending on what specs your macbook 
air has.  Less ram and a slower processor will make things a bit slower.  
Whether you notice this or not will depend on what you use your virtual machine 
for.

also, you can install and configure vmware and windows independently.  I don’t 
have any sighted humans around here to help, so this was a great thing for me.  
I think with boot camp, there is part of the process in which you will need 
sighted assistance.  I do know there is some program to allow blind folks to 
install windows with speech through the whole process, but I don’t know if 
anybody has used this successfully with a mac and boot camp.

hah,
Caitlyn

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 10:39 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, and you'll find lots of comments in the mailing list archives about it. 
> There are two main ways - BootCamp and VMWare. Bootcamp lets you divide up 
> your hard drive into a mac and Windows partition then you install Windows on 
> its partition and then boot windows. It turns out Macs make pretty fast 
> Wintel boxes. This gets you the fastest Windows performance but you have to 
> reboot to switch between Mac and Windows "mode". You also have to guess ahead 
> of time how much disk space to allocate between the two sides on your hard 
> drive. VMWare lets you create a "virtual machine" that looks like a generic 
> PC to Windows but is actually an app running under OSX. You have to buy 
> VMWare and install that, create the fake virtual machine and then install 
> Windows onto that virtual machine. The nice thing is when you need windows 
> you launch VMWare and your virtual machine. When you're done you just quit 
> like any other app. The Windows side creates a virtual C drive that is just a 
> big file on the Mac. You can tell VMWare to make it 100GB if you want but it 
> will only use as much space as is actually being used by the Windows files. 
> The downside is performance. For modern Macs this isn't a big deal but 
> running Windows on top of OSX is never going to be as fast as running Windows 
> directly on the hardware. So if you don't mind it being a bit slower VMWare 
> will get you a lot of flexibilty but you need Windows to run as fast as 
> possible then BootCamp will be your ticket.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 11/30/15 7:48 PM, Michelle's Home emails wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>  
>> Michelle here,
>>  
>> Can I have windows installed on my Mac? So can I have choice of two 
>> operating systems?  Because there are programmers which does not run with 
>> Mac or voiceover that well which windows can handle.
>>  
>> Pardon my ignorance how is this done?  
>>  
>> I would rather take to  uni my Mac it weighs far less and is great on the 
>> battery life, particularly if I want to study on my long journey home which 
>> is about two to three hours train ride. 
>> Michelle 
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Re: Mac Air and Windows

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, and you'll find lots of comments in the mailing list archives about 
it. There are two main ways - BootCamp and VMWare. Bootcamp lets you 
divide up your hard drive into a mac and Windows partition then you 
install Windows on its partition and then boot windows. It turns out 
Macs make pretty fast Wintel boxes. This gets you the fastest Windows 
performance but you have to reboot to switch between Mac and Windows 
"mode". You also have to guess ahead of time how much disk space to 
allocate between the two sides on your hard drive. VMWare lets you 
create a "virtual machine" that looks like a generic PC to Windows but 
is actually an app running under OSX. You have to buy VMWare and install 
that, create the fake virtual machine and then install Windows onto that 
virtual machine. The nice thing is when you need windows you launch 
VMWare and your virtual machine. When you're done you just quit like any 
other app. The Windows side creates a virtual C drive that is just a big 
file on the Mac. You can tell VMWare to make it 100GB if you want but it 
will only use as much space as is actually being used by the Windows 
files. The downside is performance. For modern Macs this isn't a big 
deal but running Windows on top of OSX is never going to be as fast as 
running Windows directly on the hardware. So if you don't mind it being 
a bit slower VMWare will get you a lot of flexibilty but you need 
Windows to run as fast as possible then BootCamp will be your ticket.


Hope this helps.

CB

On 11/30/15 7:48 PM, Michelle's Home emails wrote:


Hi there,

Michelle here,

Can I have windows installed on my Mac? So can I have choice of two 
operating systems?  Because there are programmers which does not run 
with Mac or voiceover that well which windows can handle.


Pardon my ignorance how is this done?

I would rather take to  uni my Mac it weighs far less and is great on 
the battery life, particularly if I want to study on my long journey 
home which is about two to three hours train ride.


Michelle

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Mac Air and Windows

[Michelle's Home emails]

Hi there,

 

Michelle here,

 

Can I have windows installed on my Mac? So can I have choice of two
operating systems?  Because there are programmers which does not run with
Mac or voiceover that well which windows can handle.

 

Pardon my ignorance how is this done?  

 

I would rather take to  uni my Mac it weighs far less and is great on the
battery life, particularly if I want to study on my long journey home which
is about two to three hours train ride. 

Michelle 

 

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