Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
Hello all, I remember a couple of months ago we were discussing Pandora clients for the Mac on list. One of the apps discussed was Piano Pub. Recently, this app has just stopped working. I remember there being another app talked about that was found in the app store. I could have sworn it was called Pyra. Am I mistaken? If so, what was this app called. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
Hi Ricardo, The app was called Pyrcast, and sadly it is no longer available. Pandora served them a cease and desist order. I would trust that Pianopub will soon be updated, as Pianobar, te client it is based on, usually takes no more than a day or two to deal with occasional Pandora protocol changes. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello all, I remember a couple of months ago we were discussing Pandora clients for the Mac on list. One of the apps discussed was Piano Pub. Recently, this app has just stopped working. I remember there being another app talked about that was found in the app store. I could have sworn it was called Pyra. Am I mistaken? If so, what was this app called. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
Hi Again, If I may ask, what parts of the client don't actually work anymore? I'm sitting here listening to the Beatles via PianoPub, and have been able to skip tracks, which is all I do routinely, easily. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, The app was called Pyrcast, and sadly it is no longer available. Pandora served them a cease and desist order. I would trust that Pianopub will soon be updated, as Pianobar, te client it is based on, usually takes no more than a day or two to deal with occasional Pandora protocol changes. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello all, I remember a couple of months ago we were discussing Pandora clients for the Mac on list. One of the apps discussed was Piano Pub. Recently, this app has just stopped working. I remember there being another app talked about that was found in the app store. I could have sworn it was called Pyra. Am I mistaken? If so, what was this app called. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
Hi, The app just wouldn't open at all. I would get the Piano pub has no windows message from voiceover. I just deleted the app and downloaded it again and it works now. Go figure. shrug. :) Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Again, If I may ask, what parts of the client don't actually work anymore? I'm sitting here listening to the Beatles via PianoPub, and have been able to skip tracks, which is all I do routinely, easily. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, The app was called Pyrcast, and sadly it is no longer available. Pandora served them a cease and desist order. I would trust that Pianopub will soon be updated, as Pianobar, te client it is based on, usually takes no more than a day or two to deal with occasional Pandora protocol changes. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello all, I remember a couple of months ago we were discussing Pandora clients for the Mac on list. One of the apps discussed was Piano Pub. Recently, this app has just stopped working. I remember there being another app talked about that was found in the app store. I could have sworn it was called Pyra. Am I mistaken? If so, what was this app called. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
Where do I download a copy of Piano pub? Is it command line based like Piano Bar? If it actually has a graffical interface, I'd be really happy to try it. Chris. On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, The app just wouldn't open at all. I would get the Piano pub has no windows message from voiceover. I just deleted the app and downloaded it again and it works now. Go figure. shrug. :) Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Again, If I may ask, what parts of the client don't actually work anymore? I'm sitting here listening to the Beatles via PianoPub, and have been able to skip tracks, which is all I do routinely, easily. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, The app was called Pyrcast, and sadly it is no longer available. Pandora served them a cease and desist order. I would trust that Pianopub will soon be updated, as Pianobar, te client it is based on, usually takes no more than a day or two to deal with occasional Pandora protocol changes. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello all, I remember a couple of months ago we were discussing Pandora clients for the Mac on list. One of the apps discussed was Piano Pub. Recently, this app has just stopped working. I remember there being another app talked about that was found in the app store. I could have sworn it was called Pyra. Am I mistaken? If so, what was this app called. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
Hello Chris, You can download PianoPub free at www.chicksdigmacs.net. I haven't actually tried the app myself but I hear it works really well. HTH, Ezzie - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 18:25:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited Where do I download a copy of Piano pub? Is it command line based like Piano Bar? If it actually has a graffical interface, I'd be really happy to try it. Chris. On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, The app just wouldn't open at all. I would get the Piano pub has no windows message from voiceover. I just deleted the app and downloaded it again and it works now. Go figure. shrug. :) Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Again, If I may ask, what parts of the client don't actually work anymore? I'm sitting here listening to the Beatles via PianoPub, and have been able to skip tracks, which is all I do routinely, easily. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, The app was called Pyrcast, and sadly it is no longer available. Pandora served them a cease and desist order. I would trust that Pianopub will soon be updated, as Pianobar, te client it is based on, usually takes no more than a day or two to deal with occasional Pandora protocol changes. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello all, I remember a couple of months ago we were discussing Pandora clients for the Mac on list. One of the apps discussed was Piano Pub. Recently, this app has just stopped working. I remember there being another app talked about that was found in the app store. I could have sworn it was called Pyra. Am I mistaken? If so, what was this app called. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
Wow, I wonder why Pandora didn't like the pyrcast app. I'm using it and loving it. Since Pandora itself is really inacce, I'm glad to have this app; pianopub didn't do it for me. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
It works great, I just got it, but there are a few unlabeled buttons. I think I figured out what they are, but I just wanna be sure. By the looks of it, it looks like the first button you'll come to that is unlabeled, well, actually it's not a button, it's a check box, is your play/pause toggle. Then you get the first unlabled button, which I dono if that's a skip button, or a ban track button. I'm guessing it's a ban track. I'll just say user be ware, user be careful, until someone can confirm. Then I see a cluster of two unlabled buttons smished together. If I had to guess, being the first of the two seems to be a thumb down button. I'm basing this off the fact that there are two buttons together, meaning grouped side by side, unlike that one before it that's kind of all off by itself. So logically, being the first button of the two-cluster seems to skip the playing track, and I know at least with Pandora on my IPod, when you hit thumbs down, it also then skips the track playing currently, so, that leads me to think being that thumb up and down would go together as one function, sota speak, I'm thinking those two buttons side by side are first the thumb down button, followed by the thumb up button which would be one vo+right arrow to the right. That's pretty much it, the slider seems to be the volume. then your table of stations, so that's obvious, then your plus button and minus button is to add a station, and remove a station. So, can someone confirm the other buttons and if I have 'em correct on their functionality? I did use vo+slash and relabel them, but, if they're a little wrong, I always can go back again and redo them. Once I get them correctly labeled, if you all can tell me how to zip up those custom labels, I'd be happy to zip them up on send space for anyone to download and import into their voiceover. You all'll have to tell me, though how to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Ezzie Buenito ezzybu...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited Hello Chris, You can download PianoPub free at www.chicksdigmacs.net. I haven't actually tried the app myself but I hear it works really well. HTH, Ezzie - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 18:25:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited Where do I download a copy of Piano pub? Is it command line based like Piano Bar? If it actually has a graffical interface, I'd be really happy to try it. Chris. On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, The app just wouldn't open at all. I would get the Piano pub has no windows message from voiceover. I just deleted the app and downloaded it again and it works now. Go figure. shrug. :) Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Again, If I may ask, what parts of the client don't actually work anymore? I'm sitting here listening to the Beatles via PianoPub, and have been able to skip tracks, which is all I do routinely, easily. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, The app was called Pyrcast, and sadly it is no longer available. Pandora served them a cease and desist order. I would trust that Pianopub will soon be updated, as Pianobar, te client it is based on, usually takes no more than a day or two to deal with occasional Pandora protocol changes. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello all, I remember a couple of months ago we were discussing Pandora clients for the Mac on list. One of the apps discussed was Piano Pub. Recently, this app has just stopped working. I remember there being another app talked about that was found in the app store. I could have sworn it was called Pyra. Am I mistaken? If so, what was this app called. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
Hi CHris, I myself may be wrong here, but I figure the first button next to the checkbox is in fact the skip button. There's no Ban Track button as far as I know. I think you also got the order of Thumb's up and Thumb's down reversed. Beyond that, it sounds right. Hope this helps. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: It works great, I just got it, but there are a few unlabeled buttons. I think I figured out what they are, but I just wanna be sure. By the looks of it, it looks like the first button you'll come to that is unlabeled, well, actually it's not a button, it's a check box, is your play/pause toggle. Then you get the first unlabled button, which I dono if that's a skip button, or a ban track button. I'm guessing it's a ban track. I'll just say user be ware, user be careful, until someone can confirm. Then I see a cluster of two unlabled buttons smished together. If I had to guess, being the first of the two seems to be a thumb down button. I'm basing this off the fact that there are two buttons together, meaning grouped side by side, unlike that one before it that's kind of all off by itself. So logically, being the first button of the two-cluster seems to skip the playing track, and I know at least with Pandora on my IPod, when you hit thumbs down, it also then skips the track playing currently, so, that leads me to think being that thumb up and down would go together as one function, sota speak, I'm thinking those two buttons side by side are first the thumb down button, followed by the thumb up button which would be one vo+right arrow to the right. That's pretty much it, the slider seems to be the volume. then your table of stations, so that's obvious, then your plus button and minus button is to add a station, and remove a station. So, can someone confirm the other buttons and if I have 'em correct on their functionality? I did use vo+slash and relabel them, but, if they're a little wrong, I always can go back again and redo them. Once I get them correctly labeled, if you all can tell me how to zip up those custom labels, I'd be happy to zip them up on send space for anyone to download and import into their voiceover. You all'll have to tell me, though how to do it. Chris. - Original Message - From: Ezzie Buenito ezzybu...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited Hello Chris, You can download PianoPub free at www.chicksdigmacs.net. I haven't actually tried the app myself but I hear it works really well. HTH, Ezzie - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 18:25:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited Where do I download a copy of Piano pub? Is it command line based like Piano Bar? If it actually has a graffical interface, I'd be really happy to try it. Chris. On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, The app just wouldn't open at all. I would get the Piano pub has no windows message from voiceover. I just deleted the app and downloaded it again and it works now. Go figure. shrug. :) Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Again, If I may ask, what parts of the client don't actually work anymore? I'm sitting here listening to the Beatles via PianoPub, and have been able to skip tracks, which is all I do routinely, easily. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, The app was called Pyrcast, and sadly it is no longer available. Pandora served them a cease and desist order. I would trust that Pianopub will soon be updated, as Pianobar, te client it is based on, usually takes no more than a day or two to deal with occasional Pandora protocol changes. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello all, I remember a couple of months ago we were discussing Pandora clients for the Mac on list. One of the apps discussed was Piano Pub. Recently, this app has just stopped working. I remember there being another app talked about that was found in the app store. I could have sworn it was called Pyra. Am I mistaken? If so, what was this app called. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Pandora clients for the Mac revisited
Hi Ricardo, I had this problem as well. For some reason, the update screen for piano pub seems to be completely inaccessible from within the app. I had to get sighted assistance to click on the update button and now it works fine again. Installing the newest version would fix this as well. -Greg On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, The app just wouldn't open at all. I would get the Piano pub has no windows message from voiceover. I just deleted the app and downloaded it again and it works now. Go figure. shrug. :) Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Again, If I may ask, what parts of the client don't actually work anymore? I'm sitting here listening to the Beatles via PianoPub, and have been able to skip tracks, which is all I do routinely, easily. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, The app was called Pyrcast, and sadly it is no longer available. Pandora served them a cease and desist order. I would trust that Pianopub will soon be updated, as Pianobar, te client it is based on, usually takes no more than a day or two to deal with occasional Pandora protocol changes. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello all, I remember a couple of months ago we were discussing Pandora clients for the Mac on list. One of the apps discussed was Piano Pub. Recently, this app has just stopped working. I remember there being another app talked about that was found in the app store. I could have sworn it was called Pyra. Am I mistaken? If so, what was this app called. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
