Re: Please help with backspace issue. Step by step instructions needed

2015-08-02 Thread Phil Halton
I believe that another way to do a forward delete is by adding the function key 
to the backspace key. That's what I've always done, and I had forgotten all 
about control D. 

Sent from my IPhone


 On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I think I'm missing something. Backspace will *always* do that, there's no 
 easy way of altering that. Right now, if I type the letter T and then 
 backspace, that T is gone and VoiceOver says T along with a beep (the beep 
 only because I have sounds enabled for deleting). What happens when you hit 
 backspace? To be clear, we're talking about the key above the backslash and 
 below F12 and Eject, right? You can do a forward delete, but you have to 
 press ctrl-d, and I doubt that's the keystroke you're using. 
 
  You can On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Stacey Robinson 
 stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Alex If I check this box, when I backspace will it delete the letter or 
 number I just typed?
 
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
  
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is the issue backspacing, or arrowing? You can't change what the backspace 
 key does in the VO Utility, but you can set the arrow keys to do a couple 
 different things. By default, VO tells you what you've just moved past, 
 which is why it will repeat the same character over and over if you hit 
 left arrow, then right, then left, then right… You keep moving past the 
 same thing, and VO reports exactly that. Once you get it, this system makes 
 more sense, at least to me. You can configure it differently, but I 
 honestly get confused when I try to use Windows screen readers nowadays, 
 since I am more easily lost in the text than I am on the Mac or iOS.
 
 If you want things to work how they do in Windows, head to the VO utility 
 with vo-f8. Select the Verbosity item in the categories table, then 
 vo-right to the list of tabs. Vo-space on the 'text' tab, then vo-right or 
 tab until you find the while typing speak popup. Hit vo-space, use the 
 arrows to choose speak text to the right of the cursor, then vo-space to 
 confirm. You may now close the VoiceOver Utility. I hope this does what you 
 want; if not, something else may have been configured on your old Mac that 
 I'm not thinking of.
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi I wrote about this before but I need more help.
 I want to set vo so that it will backspace over the letter or number 
  that the cursor is just in in front of. I don’t know what checkboxes to 
 check or uncheck in vo utilitiesl bessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 
 I’ve left in the above Mistakes so you can see  what I mean.
 
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Re: Please help with backspace issue. Step by step instructions needed

2015-08-02 Thread Alex Hall
Really? I never knew that. Actually, I feel like I did, but I'd forgotten 
completely. Thanks for the reminder-that's way easier to hit than ctrl-d.
 On Aug 2, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I believe that another way to do a forward delete is by adding the function 
 key to the backspace key. That's what I've always done, and I had forgotten 
 all about control D. 
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I think I'm missing something. Backspace will *always* do that, there's no 
 easy way of altering that. Right now, if I type the letter T and then 
 backspace, that T is gone and VoiceOver says T along with a beep (the beep 
 only because I have sounds enabled for deleting). What happens when you hit 
 backspace? To be clear, we're talking about the key above the backslash and 
 below F12 and Eject, right? You can do a forward delete, but you have to 
 press ctrl-d, and I doubt that's the keystroke you're using. 
 
  You can On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Stacey Robinson 
 stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Alex If I check this box, when I backspace will it delete the letter or 
 number I just typed?
 
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
 
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is the issue backspacing, or arrowing? You can't change what the backspace 
 key does in the VO Utility, but you can set the arrow keys to do a couple 
 different things. By default, VO tells you what you've just moved past, 
 which is why it will repeat the same character over and over if you hit 
 left arrow, then right, then left, then right… You keep moving past the 
 same thing, and VO reports exactly that. Once you get it, this system 
 makes more sense, at least to me. You can configure it differently, but I 
 honestly get confused when I try to use Windows screen readers nowadays, 
 since I am more easily lost in the text than I am on the Mac or iOS.
 
 If you want things to work how they do in Windows, head to the VO utility 
 with vo-f8. Select the Verbosity item in the categories table, then 
 vo-right to the list of tabs. Vo-space on the 'text' tab, then vo-right or 
 tab until you find the while typing speak popup. Hit vo-space, use the 
 arrows to choose speak text to the right of the cursor, then vo-space to 
 confirm. You may now close the VoiceOver Utility. I hope this does what 
 you want; if not, something else may have been configured on your old Mac 
 that I'm not thinking of.
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi I wrote about this before but I need more help.
 I want to set vo so that it will backspace over the letter or number 
  that the cursor is just in in front of. I don’t know what checkboxes to 
 check or uncheck in vo utilitiesl bessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
   
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 I’ve left in the above Mistakes so you can see  what I mean.
 
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Please help with backspace issue. Step by step instructions needed

2015-08-01 Thread Stacey Robinson
Hi I wrote about this before but I need more help.
I want to set vo so that it will backspace over the letter or number 
 that the cursor is just in in front of. I don’t know what checkboxes to check 
or uncheck in vo utilitiesl bessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
I’ve left in the above Mistakes so you can see  what I mean.

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Re: Please help with backspace issue. Step by step instructions needed

2015-08-01 Thread Alex Hall
Is the issue backspacing, or arrowing? You can't change what the backspace key 
does in the VO Utility, but you can set the arrow keys to do a couple different 
things. By default, VO tells you what you've just moved past, which is why it 
will repeat the same character over and over if you hit left arrow, then right, 
then left, then right… You keep moving past the same thing, and VO reports 
exactly that. Once you get it, this system makes more sense, at least to me. 
You can configure it differently, but I honestly get confused when I try to use 
Windows screen readers nowadays, since I am more easily lost in the text than I 
am on the Mac or iOS.

If you want things to work how they do in Windows, head to the VO utility with 
vo-f8. Select the Verbosity item in the categories table, then vo-right to the 
list of tabs. Vo-space on the 'text' tab, then vo-right or tab until you find 
the while typing speak popup. Hit vo-space, use the arrows to choose speak 
text to the right of the cursor, then vo-space to confirm. You may now close 
the VoiceOver Utility. I hope this does what you want; if not, something else 
may have been configured on your old Mac that I'm not thinking of.
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi I wrote about this before but I need more help.
 I want to set vo so that it will backspace over the letter or number 
  that the cursor is just in in front of. I don’t know what checkboxes to 
 check or uncheck in vo utilitiesl bessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
   
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 I’ve left in the above Mistakes so you can see  what I mean.
 
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Re: Please help with backspace issue. Step by step instructions needed

2015-08-01 Thread Stacey Robinson
No Alex that was the checkbox I needed.
Thanks.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I think I'm missing something. Backspace will *always* do that, there's no 
 easy way of altering that. Right now, if I type the letter T and then 
 backspace, that T is gone and VoiceOver says T along with a beep (the beep 
 only because I have sounds enabled for deleting). What happens when you hit 
 backspace? To be clear, we're talking about the key above the backslash and 
 below F12 and Eject, right? You can do a forward delete, but you have to 
 press ctrl-d, and I doubt that's the keystroke you're using. 
 
  You can On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Alex If I check this box, when I backspace will it delete the letter or 
 number I just typed?
 
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
  
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is the issue backspacing, or arrowing? You can't change what the backspace 
 key does in the VO Utility, but you can set the arrow keys to do a couple 
 different things. By default, VO tells you what you've just moved past, 
 which is why it will repeat the same character over and over if you hit 
 left arrow, then right, then left, then right… You keep moving past the 
 same thing, and VO reports exactly that. Once you get it, this system makes 
 more sense, at least to me. You can configure it differently, but I 
 honestly get confused when I try to use Windows screen readers nowadays, 
 since I am more easily lost in the text than I am on the Mac or iOS.
 
 If you want things to work how they do in Windows, head to the VO utility 
 with vo-f8. Select the Verbosity item in the categories table, then 
 vo-right to the list of tabs. Vo-space on the 'text' tab, then vo-right or 
 tab until you find the while typing speak popup. Hit vo-space, use the 
 arrows to choose speak text to the right of the cursor, then vo-space to 
 confirm. You may now close the VoiceOver Utility. I hope this does what you 
 want; if not, something else may have been configured on your old Mac that 
 I'm not thinking of.
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi I wrote about this before but I need more help.
 I want to set vo so that it will backspace over the letter or number 
  that the cursor is just in in front of. I don’t know what checkboxes to 
 check or uncheck in vo utilitiesl bessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 I’ve left in the above Mistakes so you can see  what I mean.
 
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Re: Please help with backspace issue. Step by step instructions needed

2015-08-01 Thread Stacey Robinson
Alex If I check this box, when I backspace will it delete the letter or number 
I just typed?

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is the issue backspacing, or arrowing? You can't change what the backspace 
 key does in the VO Utility, but you can set the arrow keys to do a couple 
 different things. By default, VO tells you what you've just moved past, which 
 is why it will repeat the same character over and over if you hit left arrow, 
 then right, then left, then right… You keep moving past the same thing, and 
 VO reports exactly that. Once you get it, this system makes more sense, at 
 least to me. You can configure it differently, but I honestly get confused 
 when I try to use Windows screen readers nowadays, since I am more easily 
 lost in the text than I am on the Mac or iOS.
 
 If you want things to work how they do in Windows, head to the VO utility 
 with vo-f8. Select the Verbosity item in the categories table, then vo-right 
 to the list of tabs. Vo-space on the 'text' tab, then vo-right or tab until 
 you find the while typing speak popup. Hit vo-space, use the arrows to 
 choose speak text to the right of the cursor, then vo-space to confirm. You 
 may now close the VoiceOver Utility. I hope this does what you want; if not, 
 something else may have been configured on your old Mac that I'm not thinking 
 of.
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi I wrote about this before but I need more help.
 I want to set vo so that it will backspace over the letter or number 
  that the cursor is just in in front of. I don’t know what checkboxes to 
 check or uncheck in vo utilitiesl bessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
  
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 I’ve left in the above Mistakes so you can see  what I mean.
 
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Re: Please help with backspace issue. Step by step instructions needed

2015-08-01 Thread Alex Hall
I think I'm missing something. Backspace will *always* do that, there's no easy 
way of altering that. Right now, if I type the letter T and then backspace, 
that T is gone and VoiceOver says T along with a beep (the beep only because 
I have sounds enabled for deleting). What happens when you hit backspace? To be 
clear, we're talking about the key above the backslash and below F12 and Eject, 
right? You can do a forward delete, but you have to press ctrl-d, and I doubt 
that's the keystroke you're using. 

 You can On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:
 
 Alex If I check this box, when I backspace will it delete the letter or 
 number I just typed?
 
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
   
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is the issue backspacing, or arrowing? You can't change what the backspace 
 key does in the VO Utility, but you can set the arrow keys to do a couple 
 different things. By default, VO tells you what you've just moved past, 
 which is why it will repeat the same character over and over if you hit left 
 arrow, then right, then left, then right… You keep moving past the same 
 thing, and VO reports exactly that. Once you get it, this system makes more 
 sense, at least to me. You can configure it differently, but I honestly get 
 confused when I try to use Windows screen readers nowadays, since I am more 
 easily lost in the text than I am on the Mac or iOS.
 
 If you want things to work how they do in Windows, head to the VO utility 
 with vo-f8. Select the Verbosity item in the categories table, then vo-right 
 to the list of tabs. Vo-space on the 'text' tab, then vo-right or tab until 
 you find the while typing speak popup. Hit vo-space, use the arrows to 
 choose speak text to the right of the cursor, then vo-space to confirm. 
 You may now close the VoiceOver Utility. I hope this does what you want; if 
 not, something else may have been configured on your old Mac that I'm not 
 thinking of.
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net 
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi I wrote about this before but I need more help.
 I want to set vo so that it will backspace over the letter or number 
  that the cursor is just in in front of. I don’t know what checkboxes to 
 check or uncheck in vo utilitiesl bessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
 
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 I’ve left in the above Mistakes so you can see  what I mean.
 
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