Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
No worries. It's fine, it happens. LOL! Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:52 AM Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Woops! Sorry for that, it was unintentional. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 23.24 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: This didn't work for me, though I figured out why. You totally forgot to mention to make sure in the voiceover utility that under navigation, you're set to mouse moves the voiceover cursor instead of mouse follows voiceover cursor. Once I changed this setting, it worked perfectly. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? If you have a track pad, after routing the mouse to the voiceover cursor on the "sync" menu, put your finger on the track pad and move it slowly left, you should be hearing "application name button". It might be necessary to move the finger a tiny bit up, but not so much though. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 18.16 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: OK, I tried that but it's not working. Skype is running so could it be on my tack pad I'm not going at a total straight angle? I did route the mouse BTW. When you say grab the physical mouse or track pad, by gragging do you mean just move it left, or do you mean more literally click and drag. I tried both ways with no luck. Track pad commander was disabled. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Press vo+m twice so you're focused on the "sync" menu then route your mouse there and grab the physical mouse and go left from there. You rout mouse to voiceover cursor with cmd+vo+f5. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.49 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with my vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app you're on and there you can do various things. Hope this clarifies things. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Here's my! question. Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? No, This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a misassumption? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be add
Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Woops! Sorry for that, it was unintentional. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 23.24 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > This didn't work for me, though I figured out why. You totally forgot to > mention to make sure in the voiceover utility that under navigation, you're > set to mouse moves the voiceover cursor instead of mouse follows voiceover > cursor. Once I changed this setting, it worked perfectly. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" > > To: > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to > mac? > > > If you have a track pad, after routing the mouse to the voiceover cursor on > the "sync" menu, put your finger on the track pad and move it slowly left, > you should be hearing "application name button". It might be necessary to > move the finger a tiny bit up, but not so much though. > /Krister > > 11 jul 2011 kl. 18.16 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > >> OK, I tried that but it's not working. Skype is running so could it be on >> my tack pad I'm not going at a total straight angle? I did route the mouse >> BTW. When you say grab the physical mouse or track pad, by gragging do you >> mean just move it left, or do you mean more literally click and drag. I >> tried both ways with no luck. Track pad commander was disabled. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" >> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:54 AM >> Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to >> mac? >> >> >> Press vo+m twice so you're focused on the "sync" menu then route your mouse >> there and grab the physical mouse and go left from there. You rout mouse to >> voiceover cursor with cmd+vo+f5. >> >> /Krister >> >> 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.49 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: >> >>> Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with >>> my vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM >>> Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such >>> as skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some >>> strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way >>> with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can >>> access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the >>> mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on >>> the track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, >>> for example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the >>> app you're on and there you can do various things. >>> Hope this clarifies things. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: >>> >>>> Here's my! question. >>>> >>>> Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, >>>> but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, >>>> etc. Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! >>>> then, well, why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> >>>> No, >>>> >>>> This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought >>>> once configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of
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This didn't work for me, though I figured out why. You totally forgot to mention to make sure in the voiceover utility that under navigation, you're set to mouse moves the voiceover cursor instead of mouse follows voiceover cursor. Once I changed this setting, it worked perfectly. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? If you have a track pad, after routing the mouse to the voiceover cursor on the "sync" menu, put your finger on the track pad and move it slowly left, you should be hearing "application name button". It might be necessary to move the finger a tiny bit up, but not so much though. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 18.16 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: OK, I tried that but it's not working. Skype is running so could it be on my tack pad I'm not going at a total straight angle? I did route the mouse BTW. When you say grab the physical mouse or track pad, by gragging do you mean just move it left, or do you mean more literally click and drag. I tried both ways with no luck. Track pad commander was disabled. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Press vo+m twice so you're focused on the "sync" menu then route your mouse there and grab the physical mouse and go left from there. You rout mouse to voiceover cursor with cmd+vo+f5. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.49 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with my vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app you're on and there you can do various things. Hope this clarifies things. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Here's my! question. Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? No, This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a misassumption? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document,
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Hi Krister In YoruFukurou, you can always get back to your timeline by pressing command k. The time line is the only table in the window, so you could also use VO command t to get there. HTH. Darcy On 2011-07-11, at 11:18 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Ok, this got me curious although this drifts off topic, but how do you get > back to the timeline and can you tell me (offlist if you don't want to > clutter up the list) the procedure for setting up this hotspot? > /Krister > 11 jul 2011 kl. 16.10 skrev Ricardo Walker: > >> Hi, >> >> The time stamp is the last item found in the drawer. I just assigned a >> hotspot to the time stamp. I don't know why I didn't do this months ago. >> lol. Now, the time stamp is just a keystroke away. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >> >>> Where do you go to see the timestamp, I was under the impression you >>> couldn't, period, berried or not. Enlighten me. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:20 AM >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> >>> Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. >>> The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets >>> without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and >>> Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know >>> how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp >>> in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just >>> the time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: >>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either >>>> more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>> >>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you >>>> could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so >>>> only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to >>>> follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>>> >>>> >>>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many >>>> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary >>>> features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do >>>> a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use >>>> one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly >>>> doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>>> >>>> >>>> Just my thoughts. >>>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so >>>>> that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions >>>>> and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with >>>>> sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more >>>>> blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, >>>>> living on another planet? >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>>>> >>>>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have >>>>>> to rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>>>> * there are few
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Hi Krister, I don't know what twitterrific used to be like since I'm relatively new to the mac, but I recently tried version 4.2, and it is now completely inaccessible. I've notified the developers, and I think they are working on it. However, I'm not sure it's feature set competes with YoruFukurou. I still would have liked to try it though. On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Please correct me if i'm wrong here, but before Syrinx got totally accessible, Twitterific was the client of choise among us. The reason everyone switched clients overnight, as far as i remember, was that it didn't have as many features as Syrinx at that time, but that could very well have changed because it was a couple years ago this. Syrinx that you mentioned is good, but personally i wasn't quite friends with the bookmark idea. If i left the bookmark someplace i didn't want to leave it, i had a huge backload of tweets waiting for me, but this may also have been fixed in some way. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 16.55 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > Try Sirynx. I personally like it a teeny bit better. > > I'll tell you one app no one! yet has mentioned. I know it isn't freeware, > but has anyone tried Twitterrific? > > I kind a remember it being awesome! the little bit I got to play with it. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Vaughn Bennison" > > To: > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:10 AM > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > Whilst I would totally agree with you normally, and hesitate to enter into > such a discussion, I think Qwitter is a brilliant application, and I would > certainly love to see it, or something like it on the mac. I use Yorufukurou > at the moment, and have not yet tried anything else. I find it a bit clunky, > and not really intuitive--and I can't consistently reply to tweets! > > Vaughn. > On 11/07/2011, at 10:30 AM, James Malone wrote: > >> While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still >> don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display >> tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one >> refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of >> makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying, >> "Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there >> is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not >> described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking >> then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell >> zone once more." >> and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting >> at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people >> aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good >> tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a >> Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over. >> >> On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >>> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >>> app. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >>>> could compose a tweet. >>>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >>>> while great, distracting >>>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>>> timeline >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>>> Apart from that particular convenience,
Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
If you have a track pad, after routing the mouse to the voiceover cursor on the "sync" menu, put your finger on the track pad and move it slowly left, you should be hearing "application name button". It might be necessary to move the finger a tiny bit up, but not so much though. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 18.16 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > OK, I tried that but it's not working. Skype is running so could it be on my > tack pad I'm not going at a total straight angle? I did route the mouse BTW. > When you say grab the physical mouse or track pad, by gragging do you mean > just move it left, or do you mean more literally click and drag. I tried > both ways with no luck. Track pad commander was disabled. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" > > To: > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:54 AM > Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to > mac? > > > Press vo+m twice so you're focused on the "sync" menu then route your mouse > there and grab the physical mouse and go left from there. You rout mouse to > voiceover cursor with cmd+vo+f5. > > /Krister > > 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.49 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > >> Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with my >> vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" >> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM >> Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> >> Hi, >> Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as >> skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some >> strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way >> with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can >> access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the >> mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the >> track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for >> example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app >> you're on and there you can do various things. >> Hope this clarifies things. >> /Krister >> >> 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: >> >>> Here's my! question. >>> >>> Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, >>> but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. >>> Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, >>> well, why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> >>> No, >>> >>> This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once >>> configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>> >>>> I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of >>>> strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a >>>> misassumption? >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >>>> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >>>> app. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were
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Thanks. I really appreciate it. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, I actually have a tutorial where I show how to do this. You can listen here. http://www.mobileaccess.org/2011/01/22/apple-to-the-core/ hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with my vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app you're on and there you can do various things. Hope this clarifies things. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Here's my! question. Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? Chris. - Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? No, This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a misassumption? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are
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OK, I tried that but it's not working. Skype is running so could it be on my tack pad I'm not going at a total straight angle? I did route the mouse BTW. When you say grab the physical mouse or track pad, by gragging do you mean just move it left, or do you mean more literally click and drag. I tried both ways with no luck. Track pad commander was disabled. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Press vo+m twice so you're focused on the "sync" menu then route your mouse there and grab the physical mouse and go left from there. You rout mouse to voiceover cursor with cmd+vo+f5. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.49 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with my vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app you're on and there you can do various things. Hope this clarifies things. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Here's my! question. Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? Chris. - Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? No, This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a misassumption? Chris. ----- Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other tw
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Hi, I actually have a tutorial where I show how to do this. You can listen here. http://www.mobileaccess.org/2011/01/22/apple-to-the-core/ hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with my > vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" > > To: > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM > Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > Hi, > Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as > skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some strange > reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way with > Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can access > these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the mouse > (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the track > pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for example > "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app you're on > and there you can do various things. > Hope this clarifies things. > /Krister > > 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > >> Here's my! question. >> >> Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, >> but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. >> Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, >> why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> >> No, >> >> This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once >> configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >> >>> I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of >>> strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a >>> misassumption? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >>> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >>> app. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >>>> could compose a tweet. >>>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >>>> while great, distracting >>>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>>> timeline >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet >>>>> my needs quite adequately. >>>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, b
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Press vo+m twice so you're focused on the "sync" menu then route your mouse there and grab the physical mouse and go left from there. You rout mouse to voiceover cursor with cmd+vo+f5. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.49 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with my > vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" > > To: > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM > Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > Hi, > Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as > skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some strange > reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way with > Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can access > these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the mouse > (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the track > pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for example > "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app you're on > and there you can do various things. > Hope this clarifies things. > /Krister > > 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > >> Here's my! question. >> >> Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, >> but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. >> Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, >> why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> >> No, >> >> This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once >> configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >> >>> I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of >>> strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a >>> misassumption? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >>> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >>> app. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >>>> could compose a tweet. >>>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >>>> while great, distracting >>>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>>> timeline >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet >>>>> my needs quite adequately. >>>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>
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Its a notifier for the most part but, you can reply to tweets straight from the app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Is Boxcar for the mac like the one for the iphone in that it works only as a > notifier, or is it a social networking client in its own right? > /Krister > > 11 jul 2011 kl. 16.56 skrev Ricardo Walker: > >> No, >> >> This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once >> configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >> >>> I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of >>> strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a >>> misassumption? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >>> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >>> app. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >>>> could compose a tweet. >>>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >>>> while great, distracting >>>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>>> timeline >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet >>>>> my needs quite adequately. >>>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>>> Missy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>>> >>>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>>> >>>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That's
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Hi, To get back to the timeline just press VO command T to go back to the table. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Ok, this got me curious although this drifts off topic, but how do you get > back to the timeline and can you tell me (offlist if you don't want to > clutter up the list) the procedure for setting up this hotspot? > /Krister > 11 jul 2011 kl. 16.10 skrev Ricardo Walker: > >> Hi, >> >> The time stamp is the last item found in the drawer. I just assigned a >> hotspot to the time stamp. I don't know why I didn't do this months ago. >> lol. Now, the time stamp is just a keystroke away. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >> >>> Where do you go to see the timestamp, I was under the impression you >>> couldn't, period, berried or not. Enlighten me. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:20 AM >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> >>> Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. >>> The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets >>> without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and >>> Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know >>> how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp >>> in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just >>> the time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: >>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either >>>> more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>> >>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you >>>> could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so >>>> only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to >>>> follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>>> >>>> >>>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many >>>> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary >>>> features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do >>>> a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use >>>> one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly >>>> doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>>> >>>> >>>> Just my thoughts. >>>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so >>>>> that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions >>>>> and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with >>>>> sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more >>>>> blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, >>>>> living on another planet? >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>>>> >>>>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have >>>>>> to rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>>>> * there are few diferences
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Excellent tip. Do you know where I'd need though to route the mouse with my vo+command+F5? What do I need to have focused when I do this. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app you're on and there you can do various things. Hope this clarifies things. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Here's my! question. Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? No, This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a misassumption? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the ser
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You know, I'm not really sure. Again, I didn't play much extensively with Twiteriffic. All I know is the very little I did, it looked fairly decent. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, Please correct me if i'm wrong here, but before Syrinx got totally accessible, Twitterific was the client of choise among us. The reason everyone switched clients overnight, as far as i remember, was that it didn't have as many features as Syrinx at that time, but that could very well have changed because it was a couple years ago this. Syrinx that you mentioned is good, but personally i wasn't quite friends with the bookmark idea. If i left the bookmark someplace i didn't want to leave it, i had a huge backload of tweets waiting for me, but this may also have been fixed in some way. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 16.55 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Try Sirynx. I personally like it a teeny bit better. I'll tell you one app no one! yet has mentioned. I know it isn't freeware, but has anyone tried Twitterrific? I kind a remember it being awesome! the little bit I got to play with it. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Vaughn Bennison" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Whilst I would totally agree with you normally, and hesitate to enter into such a discussion, I think Qwitter is a brilliant application, and I would certainly love to see it, or something like it on the mac. I use Yorufukurou at the moment, and have not yet tried anything else. I find it a bit clunky, and not really intuitive--and I can't consistently reply to tweets! Vaughn. On 11/07/2011, at 10:30 AM, James Malone wrote: While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying, "Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell zone once more." and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over. On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direc
Accessing things in the status bar was Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hi, Beside the "sync" menu there's a menu where many icons for apps are, such as skype, evernote, facebook clients etc, should you have them. For some strange reason, those menu choices aren't accessible in the standard way with Voiceover. There is no way as far as i know to get at them. You can access these items with the physical mouse or a track pad by routing the mouse (cmd+vo+f5) and then grab the physical mouse or put your finger on the track pad and gently moving left, you should then hear something like, for example "transmit menu button". Clicking there opens the menu for the app you're on and there you can do various things. Hope this clarifies things. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 17.05 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > Here's my! question. > > Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, > but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. > Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, > why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > No, > > This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once > configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of >> strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a >> misassumption? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> >> Hi, >> >> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >> app. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >> >>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could >>> compose a tweet. >>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while >>> great, distracting >>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>> timeline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >>>> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >>>> needs quite adequately. >>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>> >>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client tha
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Well, as I said earlier, I don't want to get a war flame started here on list, as that isn't what we're here for. I personally disagree with your opinion, however, I do respect it. Enough said. No further comments will be made regarding the blind comments on my part. Have an excellent day. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? 11 jul 2011 kl. 16.35 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: Are you afraid in using a blind product? Are you afraid to admit you're blind Not as afraid as blind folks seem to be of using mainstream products that get updated frequently and don't insult our inteligence by over simplifying the interface to the point of uselessness, but to each their own, i guess. Furthermore, i happen to think that blindness isn't something to be proud of. I'm not proud of having something that in many cases is a hinderance and a curse rather than a help and a blessing. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Is Boxcar for the mac like the one for the iphone in that it works only as a notifier, or is it a social networking client in its own right? /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 16.56 skrev Ricardo Walker: > No, > > This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once > configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of >> strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a >> misassumption? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> >> Hi, >> >> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >> app. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >> >>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could >>> compose a tweet. >>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while >>> great, distracting >>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>> timeline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >>>> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >>>> needs quite adequately. >>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>> >>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>>> >>>> >>>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >>>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >>>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >>>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >>>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >>>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>>> >>>> >>>> Just my thoughts. >>>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>
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Hi, Please correct me if i'm wrong here, but before Syrinx got totally accessible, Twitterific was the client of choise among us. The reason everyone switched clients overnight, as far as i remember, was that it didn't have as many features as Syrinx at that time, but that could very well have changed because it was a couple years ago this. Syrinx that you mentioned is good, but personally i wasn't quite friends with the bookmark idea. If i left the bookmark someplace i didn't want to leave it, i had a huge backload of tweets waiting for me, but this may also have been fixed in some way. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 16.55 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > Try Sirynx. I personally like it a teeny bit better. > > I'll tell you one app no one! yet has mentioned. I know it isn't freeware, > but has anyone tried Twitterrific? > > I kind a remember it being awesome! the little bit I got to play with it. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Vaughn Bennison" > > To: > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:10 AM > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > Whilst I would totally agree with you normally, and hesitate to enter into > such a discussion, I think Qwitter is a brilliant application, and I would > certainly love to see it, or something like it on the mac. I use Yorufukurou > at the moment, and have not yet tried anything else. I find it a bit clunky, > and not really intuitive--and I can't consistently reply to tweets! > > Vaughn. > On 11/07/2011, at 10:30 AM, James Malone wrote: > >> While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still >> don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display >> tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one >> refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of >> makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying, >> "Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there >> is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not >> described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking >> then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell >> zone once more." >> and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting >> at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people >> aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good >> tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a >> Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over. >> >> On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >>> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >>> app. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >>>> could compose a tweet. >>>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >>>> while great, distracting >>>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>>> timeline >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet >>>>> my needs quite adequately. >>>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>
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11 jul 2011 kl. 16.35 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland: > Are you afraid in using a blind product? Are you afraid to admit you're blind Not as afraid as blind folks seem to be of using mainstream products that get updated frequently and don't insult our inteligence by over simplifying the interface to the point of uselessness, but to each their own, i guess. Furthermore, i happen to think that blindness isn't something to be proud of. I'm not proud of having something that in many cases is a hinderance and a curse rather than a help and a blessing. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Awesome! Thank you very much! I'll give that a try! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, go to the place you would like to assign the hot spot then press VO shift plus the number you would like to use for the hotspot. For example, I used hotspot 2 so I navigated to the time stamp in the drawer and pressed VO Shift 2. Now to use the hot spot all i need to do is press VO 2 to jump to the time stamp. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > That's neat! How do we assign hot spots? I've only started hearing about that > feature in the past day or two. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:10 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > Hi, > > The time stamp is the last item found in the drawer. I just assigned a > hotspot to the time stamp. I don't know why I didn't > do this months ago. lol. Now, the time stamp is just a keystroke away. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> Where do you go to see the timestamp, I was under the impression you >> couldn't, period, berried or not. Enlighten me. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" >> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:20 AM >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> >> Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. >> The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets >> without having to be in the main window. Nambu does > that, sorta, and Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i > don't really know how that works. The one thing i > want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp in readable text beside the > tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the > time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. >> /Krister >> >> 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: >> >>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter >>> was simply because it provides features that > most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features > they are either more hidden away or in the wrong > place. >>> >>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, > mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who > you are interested in, so only there tweets > showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow > people, and a button to go to their twitter > profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>> >>> >>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many >>> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) > have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any > way, but who needs to do a bing search from a > twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services > already available... and my twitter client > definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>> >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific > Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from > blind specific solutions and be more standard, > thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal > terms? I can understand the need for one or more > blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, > living on another planet? >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>>> >>>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have >>>>> t
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Ok, this got me curious although this drifts off topic, but how do you get back to the timeline and can you tell me (offlist if you don't want to clutter up the list) the procedure for setting up this hotspot? /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 16.10 skrev Ricardo Walker: > Hi, > > The time stamp is the last item found in the drawer. I just assigned a > hotspot to the time stamp. I don't know why I didn't do this months ago. > lol. Now, the time stamp is just a keystroke away. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> Where do you go to see the timestamp, I was under the impression you >> couldn't, period, berried or not. Enlighten me. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" >> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:20 AM >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> >> Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. >> The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets >> without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and >> Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know >> how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp >> in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just >> the time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. >> /Krister >> >> 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: >> >>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter >>> was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter >>> clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more >>> hidden away or in the wrong place. >>> >>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you >>> could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so >>> only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow >>> people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You >>> could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>> >>> >>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many >>> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary >>> features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do >>> a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use >>> one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly >>> doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>> >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that >>>> we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be >>>> more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted >>>> people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind >>>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living >>>> on another planet? >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>>> >>>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have >>>>> to rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >>>>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech >>>>> capabilityes to show the twiter information. >>>>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >>>
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Watch it though. You need to use the number row, not the num pad to the best of my knowledge. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, go to the place you would like to assign the hot spot then press VO shift plus the number you would like to use for the hotspot. For example, I used hotspot 2 so I navigated to the time stamp in the drawer and pressed VO Shift 2. Now to use the hot spot all i need to do is press VO 2 to jump to the time stamp. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: That's neat! How do we assign hot spots? I've only started hearing about that feature in the past day or two. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:10 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, The time stamp is the last item found in the drawer. I just assigned a hotspot to the time stamp. I don't know why I didn't do this months ago. lol. Now, the time stamp is just a keystroke away. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Where do you go to see the timestamp, I was under the impression you couldn't, period, berried or not. Enlighten me. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:20 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.ch
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Hi, I'm really not sure. I have heard people say this is do to Apple not wanting 3rd party apps to access certain things. Maybe some of our more tech savvy people can comment on this. But from everything I've heard, it seems to be mostly Apples doing not the app developers as far as access to the status menu. Like I said, I have no direct knowledge of this. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Here's my! question. > > Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, > but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. > Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, > why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > No, > > This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once > configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of >> strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a >> misassumption? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> >> Hi, >> >> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >> app. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >> >>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could >>> compose a tweet. >>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while >>> great, distracting >>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>> timeline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >>>> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >>>> needs quite adequately. >>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>> >>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a
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Hi, go to the place you would like to assign the hot spot then press VO shift plus the number you would like to use for the hotspot. For example, I used hotspot 2 so I navigated to the time stamp in the drawer and pressed VO Shift 2. Now to use the hot spot all i need to do is press VO 2 to jump to the time stamp. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > That's neat! How do we assign hot spots? I've only started hearing about that > feature in the past day or two. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:10 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > Hi, > > The time stamp is the last item found in the drawer. I just assigned a > hotspot to the time stamp. I don't know why I didn't > do this months ago. lol. Now, the time stamp is just a keystroke away. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> Where do you go to see the timestamp, I was under the impression you >> couldn't, period, berried or not. Enlighten me. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" >> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:20 AM >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> >> Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. >> The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets >> without having to be in the main window. Nambu does > that, sorta, and Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i > don't really know how that works. The one thing i > want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp in readable text beside the > tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the > time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. >> /Krister >> >> 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: >> >>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter >>> was simply because it provides features that > most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features > they are either more hidden away or in the wrong > place. >>> >>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, > mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who > you are interested in, so only there tweets > showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow > people, and a button to go to their twitter > profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>> >>> >>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many >>> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) > have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any > way, but who needs to do a bing search from a > twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services > already available... and my twitter client > definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>> >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific > Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from > blind specific solutions and be more standard, > thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal > terms? I can understand the need for one or more > blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, > living on another planet? >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>>> >>>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have >>>>> to rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> well, I have a good n
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Here's my! question. Why can we not access things in the status bar? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, we can access the clock, the battery, the airport, the bluetooth, etc. Isn't that? in the status bar? So, yeah, ok, if we can do that! then, well, why can't we access these other things? Am I confused? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? No, This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a misassumption? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed
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Hello, Visually I'm not sure. But, as far as voiceover goes, you just interact with them like you would a scroll area and navigate within them. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > I've always wondered exactly what are draurs, as I've seen them on occasions, > but never totally understood what they were or how to navigate them. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > yup, > > The time stamp being hidden away in the drawer is my only major complaint > about Yorufukurou > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. >> The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets >> without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and >> Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know >> how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp >> in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just >> the time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. >> /Krister >> >> 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: >> >>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter >>> was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter >>> clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more >>> hidden away or in the wrong place. >>> >>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you >>> could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so >>> only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow >>> people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You >>> could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>> >>> >>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many >>> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary >>> features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do >>> a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use >>> one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly >>> doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>> >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that >>>> we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be >>>> more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted >>>> people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind >>>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living >>>> on another planet? >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>>> >>>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have >>>>> to rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >>>>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech >>>>> capabilityes to show the twiter information. >>>>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >>>>> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant >>>>> >>>>> Ph
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That's neat! How do we assign hot spots? I've only started hearing about that feature in the past day or two. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:10 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, The time stamp is the last item found in the drawer. I just assigned a hotspot to the time stamp. I don't know why I didn't do this months ago. lol. Now, the time stamp is just a keystroke away. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Where do you go to see the timestamp, I was under the impression you > couldn't, period, berried or not. Enlighten me. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:20 AM > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. > The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets > without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. > /Krister > > 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: > >> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter >> was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >> >> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns >> lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >> >> >> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many >> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >> >> >> Just my thoughts. >> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>> >>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to >>>> rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >>>> >>>> >>>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >>>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. >>>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >>>> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant >>>> >>>> Phone: +34 679953948 >>>> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >>>> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es >>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon >>>> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon >>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero >>>> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com >>>> Skype
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No, This is true. Mainly because it works out of the status menu. Bought once configured, Its a treat to use. Especially with twitter. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of > strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a > misassumption? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > Hi, > > with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All > you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: > >> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could >> compose a tweet. >> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while >> great, distracting >> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >> timeline >> >> >> >> >> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >>> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >>> needs quite adequately. >>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>> >>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>> >>> >>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>> >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter >>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind >>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus >>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I >>> can understand the need for one or more blind >>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on >>> another planet?
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Try Sirynx. I personally like it a teeny bit better. I'll tell you one app no one! yet has mentioned. I know it isn't freeware, but has anyone tried Twitterrific? I kind a remember it being awesome! the little bit I got to play with it. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Vaughn Bennison" To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Whilst I would totally agree with you normally, and hesitate to enter into such a discussion, I think Qwitter is a brilliant application, and I would certainly love to see it, or something like it on the mac. I use Yorufukurou at the moment, and have not yet tried anything else. I find it a bit clunky, and not really intuitive--and I can't consistently reply to tweets! Vaughn. On 11/07/2011, at 10:30 AM, James Malone wrote: While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying, "Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell zone once more." and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over. On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away fro
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
I've wanted to use Boxcar for the mac, but someone told me it's kind of strange to get it configured correctly with voiceover. Is this a misassumption? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe f
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I've always wondered exactly what are draurs, as I've seen them on occasions, but never totally understood what they were or how to navigate them. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? yup, The time stamp being hidden away in the drawer is my only major complaint about Yorufukurou Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
And, this is the only comment I'm gonna say regarding this. Are you afraid in using a blind product? Are you afraid to admit you're blind? I feel our blindness is what makes us who we are. OK, maybe that isn't the point, but is it really not? OK, enough said. I'm outta here on that note. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Missy Hoppe" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:03 PM Subject: RE: Porting qwitter to mac? Not necessarily. It might be a clever name if the application has no visual component, for like what the developer said: if you're tweeting at work and don't want anyone to see or something like that. To me, it doesn't matter what it's called. If it works, I'll try it. If I don't like it, I can always go back to Yorufukuru. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:58 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? One little piece of advise though. If you really, really want to have your product used by blind and sighted alike, the name "blind tweet" maybe isn't the best name in history. Everyone will assume that it's a client for blind people only and we will have yet another reinvention of the wheel. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 19.26 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope to finish the first release version by the end of the summer Regards Jonathan Chacón El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió: Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We hav
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Hi, The time stamp is the last item found in the drawer. I just assigned a hotspot to the time stamp. I don't know why I didn't do this months ago. lol. Now, the time stamp is just a keystroke away. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Where do you go to see the timestamp, I was under the impression you > couldn't, period, berried or not. Enlighten me. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:20 AM > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > > Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. > The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets > without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and > Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know > how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp > in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the > time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. > /Krister > > 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: > >> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter >> was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter >> clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more >> hidden away or in the wrong place. >> >> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns >> lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add >> more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there >> tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, >> unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could >> customise the time before new tweets are received. >> >> >> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many >> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary >> features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a >> bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one >> of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't >> need a stopwatch build in. >> >> >> Just my thoughts. >> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that >>> we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be >>> more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted >>> people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind >>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on >>> another planet? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>> >>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to >>>> rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >>>> >>>> >>>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >>>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech >>>> capabilityes to show the twiter information. >>>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >>>> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant >>>> >>>> Phone: +34 679953948 >>>> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >>>> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es >>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon >>>> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon >>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero >>>> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com >>>> Skype: Tyflos_ >>>> FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because
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James, I'd argue that the only people that look stupid are those people who reffuse to use a piece of software because of its target market. You should use what ever application works best for you; if that turns out to be a mainstream twitter client thats great, if it turns out to be a (For want of a better term) blind client thats great. I do agree that its great that we have more mainstream applications being made available for us, but I'd venture to guess that not that many (If any) mainstream twitter clients have the same sort of interface that qwitter has. For me, this is something I've grown to like. Perhaps I along with everyone else who use it instead of spending time trying to get another client to work are contributing to the typical image of a blind person that you seem to hate so much. I disagree with this, but it has the potential to become very off topic, so I'll reitterate that people should use what ever is best for them, both on and off the computer. Completely dismissing something because its a blind piece of software is rediculess, try thinking about what you've said but replace blind with another minority and see how it sounds. On 11/07/2011, James Malone wrote: > While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still > don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display > tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one > refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of > makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying, > "Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there > is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not > described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking > then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell > zone once more." > and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting > at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people > aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good > tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a > Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over. > > On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Hi, >> >> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >> app. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >> >>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a >>> keystroke >>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >>> could compose a tweet. >>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >>> while great, distracting >>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>> timeline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet >>>> my needs quite adequately. >>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter >>>> were >>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if t
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Where do you go to see the timestamp, I was under the impression you couldn't, period, berried or not. Enlighten me. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:20 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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I would love! personally to see Blindtweets, It sound really really sweet! Let us know once it's available. I assume it'll be Lion ready, obviously. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:20 AM Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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My biggest problem with Yorufukuru is that at least for me, it seems much to easy to make mistakes. For example, I was trying to send a DM, and it somehow went out as a normal tweet. I deleted the message as soon as I realized the mistake, but it was still frustrating. I know other people have experienced similar problems from time to time, and yes, they can be avoided if you're careful, but sometimes, I'm just in a hurry to get something sent, so am not as careful as I should be. That's why I love the DM safe mode in qwitter. You have to try a lot harder to mess it up. LOL! Other than that, yorufukuru is fairly intuitive, but even so, if there were a mac equivalent of Qwitter, I'd probably switch in a heartbeat. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaughn Bennison Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:10 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Whilst I would totally agree with you normally, and hesitate to enter into such a discussion, I think Qwitter is a brilliant application, and I would certainly love to see it, or something like it on the mac. I use Yorufukurou at the moment, and have not yet tried anything else. I find it a bit clunky, and not really intuitive--and I can't consistently reply to tweets! Vaughn. On 11/07/2011, at 10:30 AM, James Malone wrote: > While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still > don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display > tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one > refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of > makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying, > "Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there > is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not > described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking > then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell > zone once more." > and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting > at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people > aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good > tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a > Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over. > > On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Hi, >> >> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >> app. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >> >>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >>> could compose a tweet. >>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >>> while great, distracting >>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>> timeline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet >>>> my needs quite adequately. >>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The on
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I wholeheartedly agree with you James. As i understand it, we chose the Mac platform just because we were sick of blind ghetto solutions and apps that reinvented the wheel only with less features and if we start shouting for blindness specific apps to do common tasks that can be done elsewhere, then most of the point has been lost. Screen readers and magnifiers and the like are one thing, they are needed, but blindness specific calendars, twitter clients and even gps apps on the mobile platform, no. /Krister 11 jul 2011 kl. 02.30 skrev James Malone: > While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still > don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display > tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one > refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of > makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying, > "Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there > is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not > described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking > then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell > zone once more." > and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting > at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people > aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good > tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a > Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over. > > On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Hi, >> >> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >> app. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >> >>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >>> could compose a tweet. >>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >>> while great, distracting >>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>> timeline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet >>>> my needs quite adequately. >>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>> >>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>>> >>>> >
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Whilst I would totally agree with you normally, and hesitate to enter into such a discussion, I think Qwitter is a brilliant application, and I would certainly love to see it, or something like it on the mac. I use Yorufukurou at the moment, and have not yet tried anything else. I find it a bit clunky, and not really intuitive--and I can't consistently reply to tweets! Vaughn. On 11/07/2011, at 10:30 AM, James Malone wrote: > While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still > don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display > tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one > refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of > makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying, > "Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there > is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not > described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking > then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell > zone once more." > and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting > at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people > aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good > tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a > Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over. > > On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Hi, >> >> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All >> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar >> app. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: >> >>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >>> could compose a tweet. >>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >>> while great, distracting >>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>> timeline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet >>>> my needs quite adequately. >>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>> >>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>>> >>>> >>>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >>>> Many of the other clien
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying, "Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell zone once more." and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over. On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All > you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar > app. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: > >> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you >> could compose a tweet. >> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, >> while great, distracting >> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >> timeline >> >> >> >> >> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets >>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet >>> my needs quite adequately. >>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>> >>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>> >>> >>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>> >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the >>>> list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter >>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from >>> blind specific solutions and be
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hi, with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere. All you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: > Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I > describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke > that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could > compose a tweet. > I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while > great, distracting > Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the > timeline > > > > > On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best >> about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >> needs quite adequately. >> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to >> be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >> >> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >> >> >> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >> >> >> Just my thoughts. >> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter >> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind >> specific solutions and be more standard, thus >> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I >> can understand the need for one or more blind >> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on >> another planet? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>> >>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to >>>> rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >>>> >>>> >>>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >>>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and >> it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. >>>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>>Jonat
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yup, The time stamp being hidden away in the drawer is my only major complaint about Yorufukurou Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. > The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets > without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and > Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know > how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp > in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the > time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. > /Krister > > 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: > >> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter >> was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter >> clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more >> hidden away or in the wrong place. >> >> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns >> lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add >> more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there >> tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, >> unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could >> customise the time before new tweets are received. >> >> >> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many >> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary >> features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a >> bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one >> of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't >> need a stopwatch build in. >> >> >> Just my thoughts. >> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that >>> we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be >>> more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted >>> people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind >>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on >>> another planet? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>> Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro
RE: Porting qwitter to mac?
Sounds logical to me, and your program would be unique for mac users, that's for sure! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chacón Barbero Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:06 PM To: Krister Ekstrom Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hello, there's a problem to change the name... Twitter doesn't allow new twitter clients because they think there are too many twitter clients now. Well, I needed and argument to get the twitter authorization. I argued there was no twitter client for blind users like qwitter in OSX... Well, Twitter gave me the authorization with Blindtweet identifier Regards Jonathan Chacón El 10/07/2011, a las 19:57, Krister Ekstrom escribió: > One little piece of advise though. If you really, really want to have your > product used by blind and sighted alike, the name "blind tweet" maybe isn't the best name in history. Everyone will assume that it's a client for blind people only and we will have yet another reinvention of the wheel. > /Krister > > 10 jul 2011 kl. 19.26 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: > >> Hello >> >> Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope >> to finish the first release version by the end of the summer >> >> Regards >> Jonathan Chacón >> >> El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió: >> >>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. >>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while >>> great, distracting >>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>> timeline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >>>> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >>>> needs quite adequately. >>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>> >>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>>> >>>> >>>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >>>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >>>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >>>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >>>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >>>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>>> >>>> >>>> Just my thoug
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hello, there's a problem to change the name... Twitter doesn't allow new twitter clients because they think there are too many twitter clients now. Well, I needed and argument to get the twitter authorization. I argued there was no twitter client for blind users like qwitter in OSX... Well, Twitter gave me the authorization with Blindtweet identifier Regards Jonathan Chacón El 10/07/2011, a las 19:57, Krister Ekstrom escribió: > One little piece of advise though. If you really, really want to have your > product used by blind and sighted alike, the name "blind tweet" maybe isn't > the best name in history. Everyone will assume that it's a client for blind > people only and we will have yet another reinvention of the wheel. > /Krister > > 10 jul 2011 kl. 19.26 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: > >> Hello >> >> Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope >> to finish the first release version by the end of the summer >> >> Regards >> Jonathan Chacón >> >> El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió: >> >>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could >>> compose a tweet. >>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while >>> great, distracting >>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >>> timeline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >>>> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >>>> needs quite adequately. >>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>>> >>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>>> >>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>>> >>>> >>>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >>>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >>>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >>>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >>>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >>>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>>> >>>> >>>> Just my thoughts. >>>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter >>>> client? Wasn't it so that we ch
RE: Porting qwitter to mac?
Not necessarily. It might be a clever name if the application has no visual component, for like what the developer said: if you're tweeting at work and don't want anyone to see or something like that. To me, it doesn't matter what it's called. If it works, I'll try it. If I don't like it, I can always go back to Yorufukuru. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:58 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? One little piece of advise though. If you really, really want to have your product used by blind and sighted alike, the name "blind tweet" maybe isn't the best name in history. Everyone will assume that it's a client for blind people only and we will have yet another reinvention of the wheel. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 19.26 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: > Hello > > Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope > to finish the first release version by the end of the summer > > Regards > Jonathan Chacón > > El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió: > >> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. >> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while >> great, distracting >> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >> timeline >> >> >> >> >> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >>> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >>> needs quite adequately. >>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>> >>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>> >>> >>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>> >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter >>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind >>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus >>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I >>> c
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One little piece of advise though. If you really, really want to have your product used by blind and sighted alike, the name "blind tweet" maybe isn't the best name in history. Everyone will assume that it's a client for blind people only and we will have yet another reinvention of the wheel. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 19.26 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: > Hello > > Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope > to finish the first release version by the end of the summer > > Regards > Jonathan Chacón > > El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió: > >> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke >> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could >> compose a tweet. >> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while >> great, distracting >> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >> timeline >> >> >> >> >> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >>> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >>> needs quite adequately. >>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>> >>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>> >>> >>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>> >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter >>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind >>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus >>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I >>> can understand the need for one or more blind >>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on >>> another planet? >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>>> >>>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have >>>>> to rewrit
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Ah, that would explain why i got an error when trying to check for updates. Well, if so, Nambu's out of the question. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 16.19 skrev Missy Hoppe: > Hi! I thought Nambu was no longer being developed. That's one of the main > reasons I didn't try using it; I simply assumed it > wouldn't be coded to handle Twitter's new authorization scheme. It sure > sounds like it was neat, though. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:13 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? > > Hi, > Both Nambu and Yurofukuru, (how the heck do they spell that name?) provides > those features already. Nambu, in my oppinion has > the best implementation of the "write tweets from anywhere" type of feature, > although it lacks other features i want to see. > Both apps have shortcuts for bringing up a new tweet dialog and to focus on > the timeline. > Don't remember now why i chose Yurofukuru over Nambu though. The cool thing > with nambu is that you actually can tweet even if > the app itself isn't running. > /Krister > > 10 jul 2011 kl. 14.38 skrev Ashley Cox: > >> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I >> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), > there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a > dialog in which you could compose a tweet. >> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while >> great, distracting >> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the >> timeline >> >> >> >> >> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like >>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the > background; >>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >>> losing your place in whatever program you were > in. >>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >>> needs quite adequately. >>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were >>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >>> >>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >>> >>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >>> >>> >>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >>> >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific > Twitter >>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind &
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hello Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope to finish the first release version by the end of the summer Regards Jonathan Chacón El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió: > Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I > describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke > that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could > compose a tweet. > I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while > great, distracting > Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the > timeline > > > > > On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best >> about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >> needs quite adequately. >> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to >> be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >> >> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >> >> >> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >> >> >> Just my thoughts. >> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter >> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind >> specific solutions and be more standard, thus >> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I >> can understand the need for one or more blind >> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on >> another planet? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>> >>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to >>>> rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >>>> >>>> >>>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >>>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and >> it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. >>>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>>Jonathan Chacón Barbero >>>>Accessibility, usability a
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Hello Krister and every body, I think the same of you but some friends of mine prefer a Twitter client in background managed by keystrokes. This method of management is very easy for many users and I think if I can develop it for my friends, why not to do it? I think Blindtweet will be used by not blind people. Imagine people who can't use twitter in their work... they will use Twitter without been caught at work because there will be nothing on the screen I think that any user should be free to use the best application for his needs Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hi! I thought Nambu was no longer being developed. That's one of the main reasons I didn't try using it; I simply assumed it wouldn't be coded to handle Twitter's new authorization scheme. It sure sounds like it was neat, though. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi, Both Nambu and Yurofukuru, (how the heck do they spell that name?) provides those features already. Nambu, in my oppinion has the best implementation of the "write tweets from anywhere" type of feature, although it lacks other features i want to see. Both apps have shortcuts for bringing up a new tweet dialog and to focus on the timeline. Don't remember now why i chose Yurofukuru over Nambu though. The cool thing with nambu is that you actually can tweet even if the app itself isn't running. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 14.38 skrev Ashley Cox: > Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I > describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. > I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while > great, distracting > Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the > timeline > > > > > On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best >> about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >> needs quite adequately. >> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to >> be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >> >> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >> >> >> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >> >> >> Just my thoughts. >> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter >> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind >> specific solutions and be more standard, thus >> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I >> can understand the need for one or more blind >> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on >> another planet? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>> >>>> * keystroke m
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hi, Both Nambu and Yurofukuru, (how the heck do they spell that name?) provides those features already. Nambu, in my oppinion has the best implementation of the "write tweets from anywhere" type of feature, although it lacks other features i want to see. Both apps have shortcuts for bringing up a new tweet dialog and to focus on the timeline. Don't remember now why i chose Yurofukuru over Nambu though. The cool thing with nambu is that you actually can tweet even if the app itself isn't running. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 14.38 skrev Ashley Cox: > Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I > describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke > that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could > compose a tweet. > I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while > great, distracting > Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the > timeline > > > > > On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best >> about qwitter is that it runs in the background; >> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to >> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a >> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without >> losing your place in whatever program you were in. >> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my >> needs quite adequately. >> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to >> be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it >> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the >> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. >> Missy >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? >> >> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of >> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other >> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are >> either more hidden away or in the wrong place. >> >> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 >> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then >> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested >> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability >> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter >> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. >> >> >> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. >> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of >> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but >> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio >> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my >> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. >> >> >> Just my thoughts. >> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter >> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind >> specific solutions and be more standard, thus >> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I >> can understand the need for one or more blind >> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on >> another planet? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>>> >>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to >>>> rewrite all modules about keyboard >>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >>>> >>>> >>>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >>>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and >>
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could compose a tweet. I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while great, distracting Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the timeline On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote: Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro
RE: Porting qwitter to mac?
Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best about qwitter is that it runs in the background; you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without losing your place in whatever program you were in. Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my needs quite adequately. Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the background. I hope that makes some kind of sense. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac? I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list > this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? > /Krister > > 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: > >> Hello, >> >> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >> >> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to >> rewrite all modules about keyboard >> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >> >> >> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. >> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >>Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant >> >> Phone: +34 679953948 >> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon >> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero >> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com >> Skype: Tyflos_ >> FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand. The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that. /Krister 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox: > I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter > was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter > clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden > away or in the wrong place. > > It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns > lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add > more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there > tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, > unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could > customise the time before new tweets are received. > > > That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of > the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary > features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a > bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one > of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't > need a stopwatch build in. > > > Just my thoughts. > On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> Hi, >> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list >> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that >> we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be >> more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted >> people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind >> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on >> another planet? >> /Krister >> >> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >>> >>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to >>> rewrite all modules about keyboard >>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >>> >>> >>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech >>> capabilityes to show the twiter information. >>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >>> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant >>> >>> Phone: +34 679953948 >>> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >>> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon >>> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero >>> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com >>> Skype: Tyflos_ >>> FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden away or in the wrong place. It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received. That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in. Just my thoughts. On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hi Krister, I agree completely, for what it's worth. I switched to mac for this reason among many others, and am not a fan of blindness-specific solutions, if they can be avoided. I am personally quite happy with YoruFukurou as a very powerful, and mainstream, Twitter client. I doubt the two of us are alone on this planet. Best, Zack. On Jul 10, 2011, at 2:20 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list > this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we > chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more > standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on > equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific > solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another > planet? > /Krister > > 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: > >> Hello, >> >> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: >> >> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to >> rewrite all modules about keyboard >> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. >> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows >> >> >> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a >> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech >> capabilityes to show the twiter information. >> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant >> >> Phone: +34 679953948 >> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon >> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero >> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com >> Skype: Tyflos_ >> FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hi, Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet? /Krister 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero: > Hello, > > there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: > > * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to > rewrite all modules about keyboard > * window dialog management is very different in OSX. > * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows > > > well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a > twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech > capabilityes to show the twiter information. > I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store > > > > > Regards > Jonathan Chacón Barbero > Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant > > Phone: +34 679953948 > e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net > Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon > LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero > Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com > Skype: Tyflos_ > FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
You know, I am a huge fan of qwitter, and it has done a truly amazing thing for windows twitter users. I'm still devoted to it, and still volunteer to maintain the Readme even though I'm almost exclusively a mac person now. Having said that, I'm not sure I see why it is necessary to have a mac port of qwitter. There are several high quality mainstream twitter clients on the mac that work just great with voiceover. YoruFukurou has many of the features that I thought I would have to live without when I switched. One big advantage of qwitter would be much harder to do in OS X, unless lion fixes a particularly annoying issue. You have seen this if you use the speech output of growl, or even adium's built-in speech notifications. Whenever some other program has something it wants to speak, whatever voiceover is saying gets interrupted. On windows, if qwitter wants to announce that a new tweet has come in, it waits for a pause in the existing output, such as a gap between sentences. The current mechanisms for speaking text on OS X do not seem to provide any facilities for doing this. This annoying behavior is why I don't keep adium or skype signed in, because I'd lose my place just to be told that someone came online. This would be a dealbreaker for qwitter. On Jul 9, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I agree. Would love a version of qwitter for the mac. Sadly, I know absolutely nothing about programming, so am unable to help with the project, but if registering an interest helps at all, definitely count me in! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 12:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi all, For those of you who don't know, qwitter is a free twitter client, written in python. It's an accessible twitter client, but is only written for windows. http://www.qwitter-client.net Now to my question. For those of you who are experienced programmers, would anybody be willing to work in porting this twitter client to mac? It's open source, and it would be awesome to see it on the mac platform. I'm not a great programmer myself (i know very little python, as I tend to keep to web-related programming languages such as php). However, if any people are interested in working with me to port qwitter to mac, I'll contribute all I can to the project. I don't know, maybe the qwitter devs are on this list...! If anybody's interested, it would be awesome to work to get this awesome app on to the mac! Ash -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Porting qwitter to mac?
I agree. Would love a version of qwitter for the mac. Sadly, I know absolutely nothing about programming, so am unable to help with the project, but if registering an interest helps at all, definitely count me in! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 12:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Porting qwitter to mac? Hi all, For those of you who don't know, qwitter is a free twitter client, written in python. It's an accessible twitter client, but is only written for windows. http://www.qwitter-client.net Now to my question. For those of you who are experienced programmers, would anybody be willing to work in porting this twitter client to mac? It's open source, and it would be awesome to see it on the mac platform. I'm not a great programmer myself (i know very little python, as I tend to keep to web-related programming languages such as php). However, if any people are interested in working with me to port qwitter to mac, I'll contribute all I can to the project. I don't know, maybe the qwitter devs are on this list...! If anybody's interested, it would be awesome to work to get this awesome app on to the mac! Ash -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hi, There's apparently been some work done on a mac port of Qwitter, but if I recall @Mongoose_Q's tweets correctly, there's some issue with keyboard intercepting on the mac which is making it a problem. I don't know where there's any official status on this. There's a mac list on the Qwitter Client website but it doesn't have any messages in its archives. Geoff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
Hello, there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter: * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to rewrite all modules about keyboard * window dialog management is very different in OSX. * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information. I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Porting qwitter to mac?
Hi all, For those of you who don't know, qwitter is a free twitter client, written in python. It's an accessible twitter client, but is only written for windows. http://www.qwitter-client.net Now to my question. For those of you who are experienced programmers, would anybody be willing to work in porting this twitter client to mac? It's open source, and it would be awesome to see it on the mac platform. I'm not a great programmer myself (i know very little python, as I tend to keep to web-related programming languages such as php). However, if any people are interested in working with me to port qwitter to mac, I'll contribute all I can to the project. I don't know, maybe the qwitter devs are on this list...! If anybody's interested, it would be awesome to work to get this awesome app on to the mac! Ash -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
