Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
You can.
You can have them as demo for i think 14 days or so.
Or is it 30 days.
/A

> 15 sep. 2019 kl. 21:14 skrev Dave Carlson :
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> Not sure you got the point. I’m cheap, so $14.99 would be my limit for 
> investment right now. I get one voice for that, correct? Can I turn in that 
> voice later and get a different one without shelling out another $14.99?
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RE: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Simon A Fogarty]

I love eloquenmce,

I prefer to use that on my windows machine with jaws than any of theother synth 
programs as I find it quicker when I'm working 

Especially for things like power shell terminal type things.

But on the mac I don't think it would work,
I think it would change the mac to much,

As their voices like alex are so much nicer to work with. 

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Subject: Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

I will go one better, just for fun.  What happened to the dec talk voices?
Given those were first created to simulate human speech, I thought they would  
be preserved on a platform somewhere.

I resonate with Mary's thoughts on eloquence, respecting  that some seek the  
familiar.

Karen


On Sat, 14 Sep 2019, Mary Otten wrote:

> Dave, in word, no. So far as I know, there is no and will never be eloquence 
> for the Mac. I know a lot of people like that synthesizer. I can’t imagine 
> why, but I just can’t see it ever coming to any Apple products.
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

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   I got your point and doubt you can trade. If I am not mistaken, you 
do have a trial period.


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On 9/15/2019 12:14 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
Not sure you got the point. I’m cheap, so $14.99 would be my limit for 
investment right now. I get one voice for that, correct? Can I turn in 
that voice later and get a different one without shelling out another 
$14.99?


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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Dave Carlson]

Not sure you got the point. I’m cheap, so $14.99 would be my limit for 
investment right now. I get one voice for that, correct? Can I turn in that 
voice later and get a different one without shelling out another $14.99?

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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Fred is ok.
Its t˛e only thing i can use in recovery mode.
/A

> 15 sep. 2019 kl. 20:48 skrev Mike Arrigo :
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> I do like that synthesizer but I don't see it coming to Apple products 
> either. The closest voice to that would be Fred. Even though many blind 
> computer users like that synth, in the main stream world it is considered 
> outdated and as far as I know there is no further cdevelopment being done 
> with it.
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>> Dave, in word, no. So far as I know, there is no and will never be eloquence 
>> for the Mac. I know a lot of people like that synthesizer. I can’t imagine 
>> why, but I just can’t see it ever coming to any Apple products.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> use for VO?
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

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I do like that synthesizer but I don't see it coming to Apple products either. 
The closest voice to that would be Fred. Even though many blind computer users 
like that synth, in the main stream world it is considered outdated and as far 
as I know there is no further cdevelopment being done with it.

> On Sep 14, 2019, at 10:35 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Dave, in word, no. So far as I know, there is no and will never be eloquence 
> for the Mac. I know a lot of people like that synthesizer. I can’t imagine 
> why, but I just can’t see it ever coming to any Apple products.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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>> Just as the subject says, can I get good old Eloquence loaded on my Mac to 
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

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   Choose more than one Infovox voice if you like them, buy the credits 
for however many you want, then you can use the speech rotor to change 
on the fly.


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E.T.,
A question on these voices. I see that a single credit is US$14.99. So 
one credit allows me to download one voice. I get that. But if I wanted 
to change to another of their voices, can I trade in the one I don’w 
want in exchange for another, or do I need to buy another credit?


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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Dave Carlson]

E.T.,
A question on these voices. I see that a single credit is US$14.99. So one 
credit allows me to download one voice. I get that. But if I wanted to change 
to another of their voices, can I trade in the one I don’w want in exchange for 
another, or do I need to buy another credit?

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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[dan d.]

I cann't stand alex either,

I use tom because it is to my ear more crisp and succinct and having fewer 
distracting artifacts of trying to make it sound like a person.

On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Dave,
>
> I presume you???ve tried all the other English-language voices available to 
> download from Apple? I can???t stand Alex but I use good old Fred most of the 
> time. I also use Fiona as my system voice.
> In English, we have a huge choice of voices. I???m much more limited when it 
> comes to French voices but Thomas suits me fine.
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>
> > On 15 Sep 2019, at 06:35, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> >
> > Wow! These voices are extremely good. The children???s voices are so 
> > realistic, but I don???t think I???d want to have one for all the time. 
> > Thanks for passing this along.
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

It is not often i agree with Anders, but i have too this time , Fred is 
workable, light memoeryvise, and can speak super fast

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> On 15 Sep 2019, at 19.43, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Fred is a good or ok alternative.
> /A
> 
>> 15 sep. 2019 kl. 05:47 skrev Mary Otten :
>> 
>> If Apple ever decides to open up the system so that you can use voices that 
>> you bought somewhere, such as if you have voice dream reader and have 
>> purchased voices there, then maybe there will be a greater selection 
>> available for systemwide usage. And should that happen, if somebody decided 
>> somehow legally to Port eloquence over, then maybe. But that is a lot of 
>> if‘s. And somebody would have to decide it was worth their time and that 
>> they could make money. Another dubious possibility.
>> 
>> 
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

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Hi!
Fred is a good or ok alternative.
/A

> 15 sep. 2019 kl. 05:47 skrev Mary Otten :
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> If Apple ever decides to open up the system so that you can use voices that 
> you bought somewhere, such as if you have voice dream reader and have 
> purchased voices there, then maybe there will be a greater selection 
> available for systemwide usage. And should that happen, if somebody decided 
> somehow legally to Port eloquence over, then maybe. But that is a lot of 
> if‘s. And somebody would have to decide it was worth their time and that they 
> could make money. Another dubious possibility.
> 
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

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  The wisdom that children can give us... :)

   Just like the other voices, you can change them on the fly. Infovox 
voices will be in the same list on the speech rotor.


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Wow! These voices are extremely good. The children’s voices are so 
realistic, but I don’t think I’d want to have one for all the time. 
Thanks for passing this along.


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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
You could try Lee the male Australian voice or one of the UK english male 
voices.

Greg Wocher


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> Sad to report that Fred is also a non-negative speaker, along with Alex and 
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Karen Lewellen]

I will go one better, just for fun.  What happened to the dec talk voices?
Given those were first created to simulate human speech, I thought they 
would  be preserved on a platform somewhere.


I resonate with Mary's thoughts on eloquence, respecting  that some seek 
the  familiar.


Karen


On Sat, 14 Sep 2019, Mary Otten wrote:


Dave, in word, no. So far as I know, there is no and will never be eloquence 
for the Mac. I know a lot of people like that synthesizer. I can’t imagine why, 
but I just can’t see it ever coming to any Apple products.


Sent from my iPhone


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Just as the subject says, can I get good old Eloquence loaded on my Mac to use 
for VO?

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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

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Hello Ann,
Sad to report that Fred is also a non-negative speaker, along with Alex and 
Alex Compact. Sarina works, along with Tom. My quest for a voice that I can 
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Dave,

I presume you’ve tried all the other English-language voices available to 
download from Apple? I can’t stand Alex but I use good old Fred most of the 
time. I also use Fiona as my system voice.
In English, we have a huge choice of voices. I’m much more limited when it 
comes to French voices but Thomas suits me fine.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

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Wow! These voices are extremely good. The children’s voices are so realistic, 
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

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Dave,
   Report it. And meanwhile, check out Infovox. They have voices which 
you can listen to samples of.




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Just as the subject says, can I get good old Eloquence loaded on my Mac to use 
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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Mary Otten]

If Apple ever decides to open up the system so that you can use voices that you 
bought somewhere, such as if you have voice dream reader and have purchased 
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would have to decide it was worth their time and that they could make money. 
Another dubious possibility.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Dave Carlson]

Mary,
Okay, thought I’d ask.


Dave Carlson
Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician




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Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

[Mary Otten]

Dave, in word, no. So far as I know, there is no and will never be eloquence 
for the Mac. I know a lot of people like that synthesizer. I can’t imagine why, 
but I just can’t see it ever coming to any Apple products.


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> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Just as the subject says, can I get good old Eloquence loaded on my Mac to 
> use for VO?
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> Dave Carlson
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