Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
Hi Mary and all, I was under the impression that the Intel Reader was a portable device. Well, I think it is unless you use it with the capture station. I thought in listening to podcasts and demos about this product, that the great thing about the Intel Reader is that you don't have to be tied to a computer. It's funny that the voice on Intel reader I think is Loquendo Susan, she's as clear as a bell. But on Mobile Speak she's garbled. Allison On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Yes, I've heard of that Humanware device, the Intel reader. Its got a hefty > pricetag, and it doesn't run on a Mac either. the folks who make the IPAL are > supposedly starting a beta test program for something that will run on a mac > and use the same system for scanning as they have with Windows. Based on the > price of the windows device, again, pricing is way up there. Openbook has a > camera solution; is it actually out yet? And the add on is in the > neighborhood of a grand. Again, pricy. Maybe some day the prices will come > down. Paying a grand for an add on camera to an already expensive solution > doesn't seem practical. I'm intrigued by the camera idea, but I would never > pay a thousand for an add on or close to twice that for a stand alone > solution. > > Mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
No, probably not the most efficient method for scanning books. :) Donna On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Yes, it will be great if they come out with an accessible scanning ocr app > for the IPhone. But I don't think I see such an app being for the most > efficient way to do books. Great for stuff on the go, however. > > Mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
If the iPhone was docked into an L shaped stand like Humanware's iPal then multiple pages could be easily done. Turn the page and wait for the camera click, then turn to the next page and so on. Also the ability to upload the data direct to a computer like the iPal to take advantage of a better voice and processing power that is present on the iPhone would be very useful, but so would being able to read on the go with the built in abilities of the iPhone for reading menus and street signs and notices etc. On 18 Jun 2010, at 17:39, Mary Otten wrote: > Yes, it will be great if they come out with an accessible scanning ocr app > for the IPhone. But I don't think I see such an app being for the most > efficient way to do books. Great for stuff on the go, however. > > Mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
The camera in the iPhone 4 is 5 megapixels and can operate in lower light conditions than the previous iPhone 3GS. The flash is LED which is probably better for OCR than Xenon. Apparently camera is pretty good, its not always about pixel count its about processing and also the size of the sensor that matters. I used to find that my Nokia might have more pixel but the image was not always that great. On 18 Jun 2010, at 17:13, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Chris, > > I wouldn't mind that either! *smile* Has anyone seen the specifications > for the camera in iPhone 4? Specifically, is the flash LED or xenon based? > > Cheers, > > Dónal > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore > Sent: 18 June 2010 17:06 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac > > Maybe we are all thinking a bit too old school. Two weeks ago Humanware > demonstrated document readers to me which used a camera instead. The camera > was portable as it was on a fold up tripod type thing. The software was on > a Windows machine which drove the camera, words were also displayed on > screen as the document was read out. The camera took a picture of the > document and a second or so later the document was read out to me. You > could take pictures of multiple pages too. tHe speech quality was amazing, > even better then Alex I have to be honest. I thought h I would buy this > if I could use it on my Mac too. I wish Humanware would develop software > for the Mac to drive hardware like this. > > I decided on the iPal Solo so I did not have to use a windows machine to > read documents, as the iPal solo works completely without a computer. > > Who knows in about 2 years time we will all probably be reading printed > material via the camera on the iPhone 6 or whatever. I can just picture a > nifty stand you slide your iPhone or iPod Touch into to neatly take a > picture of the document below. I want it now!!! > > On 18 Jun 2010, at 16:43, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi allison, >> While I have not used abbyy for the Mac, based on what I've heard people > say, no, it is nowhere near like K1000, which I have used for probably a > decade. Yes, you can hook up a usb scanner, and if you get one that FR > recognized, such as the hp 8300 pro or epson 200 or 300, I forget the full > model designation, you can apparently scan directly without the need for a > second app to do the scanning part and then transferring the file to abby > for processing. But, as I understand it, you cannot scan and read > simultaneously; you can't scan multiple pages into the same file. You can't > scan and immediately read to check out setting accuracy. You have to let > abbyy save the page to a file and then read it there. Lots more steps. Maybe > ok for the occasional page. but totally not so for serious scanning. If my > understanding of the limitation of fr express is incorrect, I hope somebody > will correct me. I asked a guy I know who uses FR with the hp8300 and who > has used k1000 if fr express could do the things I outlined above and he > flatly said no. to be sure, there is a huge cost difference. But having an > excellent efficient scanning solution is one reason I have no intention of > giving up Windows for now. Using two applications where one will do, having > to save to a file prior to reading and not being able have multiple pages > in the same file, have it open and reading while I'm scanning, or even > scanning one thing and reading another are all reasons why I can't see > dumping windows for scanning/ocr purposes. If abbyy would come out with a > full version of fine reader, that might be a different story. >> >> mary >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ma
Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
Yes, it will be great if they come out with an accessible scanning ocr app for the IPhone. But I don't think I see such an app being for the most efficient way to do books. Great for stuff on the go, however. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
Also, with Iphone 4 now sporting a 5 megapixel camera, you have to believe that OCR apps will be created for it as well. Donna On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Maybe we are all thinking a bit too old school. Two weeks ago Humanware > demonstrated document readers to me which used a camera instead. The camera > was portable as it was on a fold up tripod type thing. The software was on a > Windows machine which drove the camera, words were also displayed on screen > as the document was read out. The camera took a picture of the document and > a second or so later the document was read out to me. You could take > pictures of multiple pages too. tHe speech quality was amazing, even better > then Alex I have to be honest. I thought h I would buy this if I could > use it on my Mac too. I wish Humanware would develop software for the Mac to > drive hardware like this. > > I decided on the iPal Solo so I did not have to use a windows machine to read > documents, as the iPal solo works completely without a computer. > > Who knows in about 2 years time we will all probably be reading printed > material via the camera on the iPhone 6 or whatever. I can just picture a > nifty stand you slide your iPhone or iPod Touch into to neatly take a picture > of the document below. I want it now!!! > > On 18 Jun 2010, at 16:43, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi allison, >> While I have not used abbyy for the Mac, based on what I've heard people >> say, no, it is nowhere near like K1000, which I have used for probably a >> decade. Yes, you can hook up a usb scanner, and if you get one that FR >> recognized, such as the hp 8300 pro or epson 200 or 300, I forget the full >> model designation, you can apparently scan directly without the need for a >> second app to do the scanning part and then transferring the file to abby >> for processing. But, as I understand it, you cannot scan and read >> simultaneously; you can't scan multiple pages into the same file. You can't >> scan and immediately read to check out setting accuracy. You have to let >> abbyy save the page to a file and then read it there. Lots more steps. Maybe >> ok for the occasional page. but totally not so for serious scanning. If my >> understanding of the limitation of fr express is incorrect, I hope somebody >> will correct me. I asked a guy I know who uses FR with the hp8300 and who >> has used k1000 if fr express could do the things I outlined above and he >> flatly said no. to be sure, there is a huge cost difference. But having an >> excellent efficient scanning solution is one reason I have no intention of >> giving up Windows for now. Using two applications where one will do, having >> to save to a file prior to reading and not being able have multiple pages >> in the same file, have it open and reading while I'm scanning, or even >> scanning one thing and reading another are all reasons why I can't see >> dumping windows for scanning/ocr purposes. If abbyy would come out with a >> full version of fine reader, that might be a different story. >> >> mary >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
I think that ABEECEE (sp) is looking at developing a similar program for the Mac. Donna On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Maybe we are all thinking a bit too old school. Two weeks ago Humanware > demonstrated document readers to me which used a camera instead. The camera > was portable as it was on a fold up tripod type thing. The software was on a > Windows machine which drove the camera, words were also displayed on screen > as the document was read out. The camera took a picture of the document and > a second or so later the document was read out to me. You could take > pictures of multiple pages too. tHe speech quality was amazing, even better > then Alex I have to be honest. I thought h I would buy this if I could > use it on my Mac too. I wish Humanware would develop software for the Mac to > drive hardware like this. > > I decided on the iPal Solo so I did not have to use a windows machine to read > documents, as the iPal solo works completely without a computer. > > Who knows in about 2 years time we will all probably be reading printed > material via the camera on the iPhone 6 or whatever. I can just picture a > nifty stand you slide your iPhone or iPod Touch into to neatly take a picture > of the document below. I want it now!!! > > On 18 Jun 2010, at 16:43, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi allison, >> While I have not used abbyy for the Mac, based on what I've heard people >> say, no, it is nowhere near like K1000, which I have used for probably a >> decade. Yes, you can hook up a usb scanner, and if you get one that FR >> recognized, such as the hp 8300 pro or epson 200 or 300, I forget the full >> model designation, you can apparently scan directly without the need for a >> second app to do the scanning part and then transferring the file to abby >> for processing. But, as I understand it, you cannot scan and read >> simultaneously; you can't scan multiple pages into the same file. You can't >> scan and immediately read to check out setting accuracy. You have to let >> abbyy save the page to a file and then read it there. Lots more steps. Maybe >> ok for the occasional page. but totally not so for serious scanning. If my >> understanding of the limitation of fr express is incorrect, I hope somebody >> will correct me. I asked a guy I know who uses FR with the hp8300 and who >> has used k1000 if fr express could do the things I outlined above and he >> flatly said no. to be sure, there is a huge cost difference. But having an >> excellent efficient scanning solution is one reason I have no intention of >> giving up Windows for now. Using two applications where one will do, having >> to save to a file prior to reading and not being able have multiple pages >> in the same file, have it open and reading while I'm scanning, or even >> scanning one thing and reading another are all reasons why I can't see >> dumping windows for scanning/ocr purposes. If abbyy would come out with a >> full version of fine reader, that might be a different story. >> >> mary >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
Yes, I've heard of that Humanware device, the Intel reader. Its got a hefty pricetag, and it doesn't run on a Mac either. the folks who make the IPAL are supposedly starting a beta test program for something that will run on a mac and use the same system for scanning as they have with Windows. Based on the price of the windows device, again, pricing is way up there. Openbook has a camera solution; is it actually out yet? And the add on is in the neighborhood of a grand. Again, pricy. Maybe some day the prices will come down. Paying a grand for an add on camera to an already expensive solution doesn't seem practical. I'm intrigued by the camera idea, but I would never pay a thousand for an add on or close to twice that for a stand alone solution. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
Chris, I wouldn't mind that either! *smile* Has anyone seen the specifications for the camera in iPhone 4? Specifically, is the flash LED or xenon based? Cheers, Dónal -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: 18 June 2010 17:06 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac Maybe we are all thinking a bit too old school. Two weeks ago Humanware demonstrated document readers to me which used a camera instead. The camera was portable as it was on a fold up tripod type thing. The software was on a Windows machine which drove the camera, words were also displayed on screen as the document was read out. The camera took a picture of the document and a second or so later the document was read out to me. You could take pictures of multiple pages too. tHe speech quality was amazing, even better then Alex I have to be honest. I thought h I would buy this if I could use it on my Mac too. I wish Humanware would develop software for the Mac to drive hardware like this. I decided on the iPal Solo so I did not have to use a windows machine to read documents, as the iPal solo works completely without a computer. Who knows in about 2 years time we will all probably be reading printed material via the camera on the iPhone 6 or whatever. I can just picture a nifty stand you slide your iPhone or iPod Touch into to neatly take a picture of the document below. I want it now!!! On 18 Jun 2010, at 16:43, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi allison, > While I have not used abbyy for the Mac, based on what I've heard people say, no, it is nowhere near like K1000, which I have used for probably a decade. Yes, you can hook up a usb scanner, and if you get one that FR recognized, such as the hp 8300 pro or epson 200 or 300, I forget the full model designation, you can apparently scan directly without the need for a second app to do the scanning part and then transferring the file to abby for processing. But, as I understand it, you cannot scan and read simultaneously; you can't scan multiple pages into the same file. You can't scan and immediately read to check out setting accuracy. You have to let abbyy save the page to a file and then read it there. Lots more steps. Maybe ok for the occasional page. but totally not so for serious scanning. If my understanding of the limitation of fr express is incorrect, I hope somebody will correct me. I asked a guy I know who uses FR with the hp8300 and who has used k1000 if fr express could do the things I outlined above and he flatly said no. to be sure, there is a huge cost difference. But having an excellent efficient scanning solution is one reason I have no intention of giving up Windows for now. Using two applications where one will do, having to save to a file prior to reading and not being able have multiple pages in the same file, have it open and reading while I'm scanning, or even scanning one thing and reading another are all reasons why I can't see dumping windows for scanning/ocr purposes. If abbyy would come out with a full version of fine reader, that might be a different story. > > mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
Maybe we are all thinking a bit too old school. Two weeks ago Humanware demonstrated document readers to me which used a camera instead. The camera was portable as it was on a fold up tripod type thing. The software was on a Windows machine which drove the camera, words were also displayed on screen as the document was read out. The camera took a picture of the document and a second or so later the document was read out to me. You could take pictures of multiple pages too. tHe speech quality was amazing, even better then Alex I have to be honest. I thought h I would buy this if I could use it on my Mac too. I wish Humanware would develop software for the Mac to drive hardware like this. I decided on the iPal Solo so I did not have to use a windows machine to read documents, as the iPal solo works completely without a computer. Who knows in about 2 years time we will all probably be reading printed material via the camera on the iPhone 6 or whatever. I can just picture a nifty stand you slide your iPhone or iPod Touch into to neatly take a picture of the document below. I want it now!!! On 18 Jun 2010, at 16:43, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi allison, > While I have not used abbyy for the Mac, based on what I've heard people say, > no, it is nowhere near like K1000, which I have used for probably a decade. > Yes, you can hook up a usb scanner, and if you get one that FR recognized, > such as the hp 8300 pro or epson 200 or 300, I forget the full model > designation, you can apparently scan directly without the need for a second > app to do the scanning part and then transferring the file to abby for > processing. But, as I understand it, you cannot scan and read simultaneously; > you can't scan multiple pages into the same file. You can't scan and > immediately read to check out setting accuracy. You have to let abbyy save > the page to a file and then read it there. Lots more steps. Maybe ok for the > occasional page. but totally not so for serious scanning. If my understanding > of the limitation of fr express is incorrect, I hope somebody will correct > me. I asked a guy I know who uses FR with the hp8300 and who has used k1000 > if fr express could do the things I outlined above and he flatly said no. to > be sure, there is a huge cost difference. But having an excellent efficient > scanning solution is one reason I have no intention of giving up Windows for > now. Using two applications where one will do, having to save to a file > prior to reading and not being able have multiple pages in the same file, > have it open and reading while I'm scanning, or even scanning one thing and > reading another are all reasons why I can't see dumping windows for > scanning/ocr purposes. If abbyy would come out with a full version of fine > reader, that might be a different story. > > mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abbyy fine reader for Mac
Hi allison, While I have not used abbyy for the Mac, based on what I've heard people say, no, it is nowhere near like K1000, which I have used for probably a decade. Yes, you can hook up a usb scanner, and if you get one that FR recognized, such as the hp 8300 pro or epson 200 or 300, I forget the full model designation, you can apparently scan directly without the need for a second app to do the scanning part and then transferring the file to abby for processing. But, as I understand it, you cannot scan and read simultaneously; you can't scan multiple pages into the same file. You can't scan and immediately read to check out setting accuracy. You have to let abbyy save the page to a file and then read it there. Lots more steps. Maybe ok for the occasional page. but totally not so for serious scanning. If my understanding of the limitation of fr express is incorrect, I hope somebody will correct me. I asked a guy I know who uses FR with the hp8300 and who has used k1000 if fr express could do the things I outlined above and he flatly said no. to be sure, there is a huge cost difference. But having an excellent efficient scanning solution is one reason I have no intention of giving up Windows for now. Using two applications where one will do, having to save to a file prior to reading and not being able have multiple pages in the same file, have it open and reading while I'm scanning, or even scanning one thing and reading another are all reasons why I can't see dumping windows for scanning/ocr purposes. If abbyy would come out with a full version of fine reader, that might be a different story. mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
