Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-12 Thread Brad Snyder
I have learned that whenever a transaction is declined on my Apple Card, all I 
need to do is open the Wallet app, and go to my Apple Card, and then submit the 
transaction again, and it goes through with no problem.

- Brad -



On Mar 6, 2024, at 14:38, Mary Otten  wrote:

Interesting. I have had legitimate purchases declined by my Apple Card. I get a 
notification immediately telling me this was declined, did you do it? And if I 
go click yes, then it goes through. I’ve never had them not catch something. So 
that was very interesting. I have had fraud on two other cards. Nothing to do 
with Apple or my phone or anything I did. The damned thieves probably got my 
number someway somewhere but not because I lost a card or saved a card on a 
website or whatever. I never ever save credit card information anywhere Except 
on braille cards that I keep. Nobody reads braille except blind people. Smile. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:41 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
> was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
> never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
> this is a Chase bank issue.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
> raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
> mentioning them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern 
>> I have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people 
>> were on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait 
>> for the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
>> Mary Ward
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-12 Thread Brad Snyder
ApplePay can be setup using any card, not just an Apple Card.
I have both my Chase VISA and Apple Card, as well as my Chase Debit card setup 
with ApplePay, and all can be accessed on either my watch or iPhone.

- Brad -



On Mar 6, 2024, at 13:19, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at all 
to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some major 
purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that I always 
know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, something I 
have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still recommend the 
Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  

But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use good 
judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to use two 
credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number for one of 
them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, because both 
frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were extremely courteous and 
professional when I spoke with them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, 
so I feel confident that I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple 
Card in particularly sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I 
looked it was a charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase 
never allowed the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to 
contest the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do think 
it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as responsive.  So I 
guess what I am saying is that if you think you might have been defrauded for 
any reason, pay attention to those notifications and take the time to go into 
the Wallet app and look around.  If it does happen, you will not wind up losing 
the money.  They are very professional about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple 
Card are the easiest and most accessible ways to pay for anything that I can 
think of.  

I hope this clears it up.  



> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t 
> get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The immediate 
> notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-12 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Sorry, I think I mis-spoke myself!  It was an issue with the Apple Card.  
Sorry, I just said it wrong.  Anyway I still recommend both.  But I also 
thought it was relevant.  

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 2:42 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Your original post stated it was an ApplePay issue, not an issue with your 
> Apple Card. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:41, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
> was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
> never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
> this is a Chase bank issue.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
> raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
> mentioning them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern 
>> I have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people 
>> were on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait 
>> for the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
>> Mary Ward
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-11 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Yes I have done that.
It won’t accept my card though but I have no stress in getting it.
/A

> 11 mars 2024 kl. 00:18 skrev  :
> 
> 
> The Apple Store does support Apple Pay. 
> There is a buy with Apple Pay button when making your purchase.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 2:44 AM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?
> 
> Hi!
> Maybe that could be  something to think of.
> Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
> I go round in circles.
> /A
> 
>> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> 
>> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m 
>> sort of new to all this. :)
>> 
>> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
>> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
>> and using that to make purchases?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>>> Bless.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, 
>>>> but my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>>> 
>>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just 
>>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a 
>>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t 
>>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, 
>>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>>>> experiences. 
>>>> 
>>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you 
>>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, 
>>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really 
>>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant 
>>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks 
>>>> again, Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in 
>>>>> particularly sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I 
>>>>> looked it was a charge I had not made.  The only difference was that 
>>>>> Chase never allowed the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I 
>>>>> actually had to contest the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of 
>>>>> weeks and was resolved quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my 
>>>>> Apple Card.  But I do think it is  relevant that their fraud protec

RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread lists


The Apple Store does support Apple Pay. 
There is a buy with Apple Pay button when making your purchase.
  
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 2:44 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m 
> sort of new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> 
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just 
>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a 
>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t 
>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, 
>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>>> experiences. 
>>> 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you 
>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, 
>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really 
>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant 
>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks 
>>> again, Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> 
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>>> accessible ways t

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread Brad Snyder
Actually, cash back from your Apple Pay purchases, will go into your Apple Cash 
account, which can be used by Apple Pay.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 13:46, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:

Apple pay is the collection of cash that builds up from purchases from the 
Apple card.
Apple pay is also using the side button to pay for purchases with what ever 
credit card or debit card you have linked to your wallet.
My Apple pay is linked to my Apple credit card as default payment..
So when I reload my Starbuks gift card, choose Apple pay as the payment method, 
it charges my credit card which is my Apple card in this case.

-Original Message-
From: 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 12:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Some of us keep confusing the Apple Card with Apple Pay. Including me, even 
though I technically know the difference. You can use any card with Apple Pay, 
or multiple cards, and you don’t kneed to have an Apple Card.
Mary Ward

On Mar 10, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Once again, Apple Pay cannot be used when making purchases from either the iOS 
or Mac App Store.
Purchases from either App Store must be made with the payment method on file in 
your Apple ID.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 10:43, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m
> sort of new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try
>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just
>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a
>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t
>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So,
>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and
>>> experiences. 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you
>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud,
>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really
>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant
>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks
>>> again, Donna
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I ha

RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Apple pay is the collection of cash that builds up from purchases from the 
Apple card.
Apple pay is also using the side button to pay for purchases with what ever 
credit card or debit card you have linked to your wallet.
My Apple pay is linked to my Apple credit card as default payment..
So when I reload my Starbuks gift card, choose Apple pay as the payment method, 
it charges my credit card which is my Apple card in this case.

-Original Message-
From: 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 12:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Some of us keep confusing the Apple Card with Apple Pay. Including me, even 
though I technically know the difference. You can use any card with Apple Pay, 
or multiple cards, and you don’t kneed to have an Apple Card. 
Mary Ward

On Mar 10, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Once again, Apple Pay cannot be used when making purchases from either the iOS 
or Mac App Store.
Purchases from either App Store must be made with the payment method on file in 
your Apple ID.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 10:43, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m 
> sort of new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just 
>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a 
>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t 
>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, 
>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>>> experiences. 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you 
>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, 
>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really 
>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant 
>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks 
>>> again, Donna
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>>> the 

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Some of us keep confusing the Apple Card with Apple Pay. Including me, even 
though I technically know the difference. You can use any card with Apple Pay, 
or multiple cards, and you don’t kneed to have an Apple Card. 
Mary Ward

On Mar 10, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Once again, Apple Pay cannot be used when making purchases from either the iOS 
or Mac App Store.
Purchases from either App Store must be made with the payment method on file in 
your Apple ID.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 10:43, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m sort of 
> new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and 
>>> make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver 
>>> in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but 
>>> making that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, 
>>> we all have those moments and experiences. 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting 
>>> an additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>>> make me reconsider that. :)
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Donna
 On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
 at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
 some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
 confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
 lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
 cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
 amazingly easy.  
 But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
 that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
 use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
 tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
 right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
 Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
 companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
 them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
 I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
 sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
 charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
 the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
 the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
 quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
 think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
 responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
 have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
 and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
 happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
 about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
 accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
 I hope this clears it up.  
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the 
> only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I 
> love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your 
> card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really 
> appreciate The immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with 

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread Brad Snyder
Once again, Apple Pay cannot be used when making purchases from either the iOS 
or Mac App Store.
Purchases from either App Store must be made with the payment method on file in 
your Apple ID.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 10:43, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m sort of 
> new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> 
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and 
>>> make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver 
>>> in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but 
>>> making that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, 
>>> we all have those moments and experiences. 
>>> 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting 
>>> an additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>>> make me reconsider that. :)
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
 at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
 some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
 confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
 lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
 cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
 amazingly easy.  
 
 But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
 that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
 use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
 tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
 right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
 Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
 companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
 them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
 I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
 sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
 charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
 the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
 the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
 quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
 think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
 responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
 have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
 and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
 happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
 about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
 accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
 
 I hope this clears it up.  
 
 
 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the 
> only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I 
> love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your 
> card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really 
> appreciate The immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with 
> it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m 

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread Dave Carlson
Anders,
In your wallet, have you assigned a particular payment type to be your choice 
for Apple Pay?

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com



On Mar 10, 2024, at 8:45 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Ok, but there’s a pay with Apple Pay button on my Apple Store.
Bless.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 15:22 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> The Apple Store app does not use Apple Pay.
> It uses the default payment you have on file in your Apple ID.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>> 
>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
>> decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in 
>> Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making 
>> that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all 
>> have those moments and experiences. 
>> 
>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
>> additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>> make me reconsider that. :)
>> Thanks again,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident 
>>> that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of 
>>> control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  
>>> I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly 
>>> easy.  
>>> 
>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them. 
>>>  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can 
>>> use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent 
>>> me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>> accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
>>> 
>>> I hope this clears it up.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the 
 only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I 
 love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your 
 card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really 
 appreciate The immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  
> Would love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
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RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
My default payment is apple pay. Check your payment defaults.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 10:46 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi!
Ok, but there’s a pay with Apple Pay button on my Apple Store.
Bless.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 15:22 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> The Apple Store app does not use Apple Pay.
> It uses the default payment you have on file in your Apple ID.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>> 
>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired 
>> a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment 
>> service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say 
>> they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, my way 
>> of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>> experiences. 
>> 
>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when 
>> a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more 
>> likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea 
>> of getting an additional credit card, but the instant notifications 
>> might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks again, Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident 
>>> that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of 
>>> control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  
>>> I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly 
>>> easy.  
>>> 
>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them. 
>>>  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can 
>>> use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent 
>>> me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>> accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
>>> 
>>> I hope this clears it up.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the 
>>>> only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I 
>>>> love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your 
>>>> card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really 
>>>> appreciate The 

RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Love Apple pay.. and Apple card.
In ap store buy. Then double tap the side button to accept transaction.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 10:44 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m 
> sort of new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> 
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just 
>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a 
>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t 
>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, 
>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>>> experiences. 
>>> 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you 
>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, 
>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really 
>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant 
>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks 
>>> again, Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> 
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>>> accessible ways t

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m sort of 
> new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> 
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and 
>>> make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver 
>>> in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but 
>>> making that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, 
>>> we all have those moments and experiences.  
>>> 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting 
>>> an additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>>> make me reconsider that. :)
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
 at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
 some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
 confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
 lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
 cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
 amazingly easy.  
 
 But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
 that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
 use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
 tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
 right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
 Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
 companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
 them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
 I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
 sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
 charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
 the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
 the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
 quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
 think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
 responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
 have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
 and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
 happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
 about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
 accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
 
 I hope this clears it up.  
 
 
 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the 
> only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I 
> love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your 
> card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really 
> appreciate The immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with 
> it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  
>> Would love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-08 Thread 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries



On 7/3/24 10:16, Brad Snyder wrote:
This is true, unless you have enabled the new Stolen Device Protection 
feature.


I recently enabled stolen device protection. Face ID is working 
reliably, but I did turn off the requirement to look at the device when 
I first set up Face ID.


I've used Apple Pay with Face ID at an ATM instead of a credit/debit 
card. There weren't any problems as far as I can remember.


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RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Jessica Barr
Oh, that makes sense. I haven't enabled that feature yet because Face ID isn't 
always reliable for me.

- Original Message -
From: Brad Snyder 
Date: Thursday, March 07, 2024 10:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

This is true, unless you have enabled the new Stolen Device Protection feature.
When Stolen Device Protection is enabled, then passcode bypass is disabled, and 
only biometric authorization is allowed. 
- Brad -

On Mar 7, 2024, at 09:08, Jessica Barr  wrote:
You can also authenticate using your passcode if Touch ID or Face ID isn't 
reliable.
- Original Message -
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Date: Thursday, March 07, 2024 09:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?
Hi Janina,
I had to authenticate using Face ID.  I believe you have to do that every time, 
otherwise it wouldn't be secure.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
> different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
> and wider than other credit cards.
> 
> Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
> accessibility issues with that aspect.
> 
> 
> I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
> proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
> should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
> face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
> face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
> somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.
> 
> Best,
> Janina
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
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>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I???m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
This is true, unless you have enabled the new Stolen Device Protection feature.
When Stolen Device Protection is enabled, then passcode bypass is disabled, and 
only biometric authorization is allowed. 

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On Mar 7, 2024, at 09:08, Jessica Barr  wrote:

You can also authenticate using your passcode if Touch ID or Face ID isn't 
reliable.

- Original Message -
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Date: Thursday, March 07, 2024 09:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi Janina,
I had to authenticate using Face ID.  I believe you have to do that every time, 
otherwise it wouldn't be secure.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
> different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
> and wider than other credit cards.
> 
> Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
> accessibility issues with that aspect.
> 
> 
> I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
> proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
> should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
> face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
> face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
> somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.
> 
> Best,
> Janina
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I???m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Jessica Barr
You can also authenticate using your passcode if Touch ID or Face ID isn't 
reliable.

- Original Message -
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Date: Thursday, March 07, 2024 09:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi Janina,
I had to authenticate using Face ID.  I believe you have to do that every time, 
otherwise it wouldn't be secure.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
> different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
> and wider than other credit cards.
> 
> Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
> accessibility issues with that aspect.
> 
> 
> I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
> proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
> should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
> face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
> face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
> somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.
> 
> Best,
> Janina
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I???m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
You must authenticate every AppleApple Pay transaction with either touch ID or 
Face ID, which of course depends on which iPhone model you have.

- Brad -

On Mar 7, 2024, at 07:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
and wider than other credit cards.

Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
accessibility issues with that aspect.


I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.

Best,
Janina

'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
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> 
> Subject says it all,  I???m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
The Apple Store app does not use Apple Pay.
It uses the default payment you have on file in your Apple ID.

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On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
Bless.
/A

> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
> 
> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
> decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in 
> Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making 
> that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all 
> have those moments and experiences. 
> 
> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely to 
> catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
> additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to make 
> me reconsider that. :)
> Thanks again,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that 
>> I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, 
>> something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still 
>> recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  
>> 
>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
>> turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use 
>> good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to 
>> use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number 
>> for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, 
>> because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were 
>> extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them.  And 
>> ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can use 
>> cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent me a 
>> notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a charge I 
>> had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed the 
>> fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest the 
>> charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved quickly 
>> and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do think it is  
>> relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as responsive.  So I 
>> guess what I am saying is that if you think you might have been defrauded 
>> for any reason, pay attention to those notifications and take the time to go 
>> into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does happen, you will not wind 
>> up losing the money.  They are very professional about it.  But Apple Pay 
>> and the Apple Card are the easiest and most accessible ways to pay for 
>> anything that I can think of.  
>> 
>> I hope this clears it up.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
>>> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
>>> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I 
>>> don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The 
>>> immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
I use a Belton tempered glass screen protector. You can get it from Amazon.
Been using them for several years on different iPhones, without any problems 
with VoiceOver gestures.

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On Mar 7, 2024, at 07:10, Phil Hammerslough  wrote:

Oh, that’s really great to hear!  I’ve been using Venmo & PayPal, both pretty 
easy, but this gives another couple of options!  Speaking of options,   I 
recently got a new iPhone and put a sturdy screen protector on it.  Lo & 
behold, it really interfered with the hand options; it took me about three 
weeks it wasn’t me or the phone that was having trouble getting those commands 
to work: it was the screen protector!  Can anyone suggest a thinner screen 
protector?

Best,
Phil

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> I’ve used Apple Pay a couple of times on my iPhone and it’s worked well. I’ve 
> only used it in one location though so far.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Janina,

I had to authenticate using Face ID.  I believe you have to do that every time, 
otherwise it wouldn’t be secure.
Cheers,
Donna

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> I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
> different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
> and wider than other credit cards.
> 
> Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
> accessibility issues with that aspect.
> 
> 
> I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
> proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
> should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
> face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
> face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
> somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.
> 
> Best,
> Janina
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
and wider than other credit cards.

Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
accessibility issues with that aspect.


I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.

Best,
Janina

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Anders,

That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m sort of 
new to all this. :)

Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account and 
using that to make purchases?
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>> 
>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
>> decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in 
>> Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making 
>> that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all 
>> have those moments and experiences.  
>> 
>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
>> additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>> make me reconsider that. :)
>> Thanks again,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident 
>>> that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of 
>>> control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  
>>> I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly 
>>> easy.  
>>> 
>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them. 
>>>  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can 
>>> use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent 
>>> me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>> accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
>>> 
>>> I hope this clears it up.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the 
 only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I 
 love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your 
 card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really 
 appreciate The immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Phil Hammerslough
Oh, that’s really great to hear!  I’ve been using Venmo & PayPal, both pretty 
easy, but this gives another couple of options!  Speaking of options,   I 
recently got a new iPhone and put a sturdy screen protector on it.  Lo & 
behold, it really interfered with the hand options; it took me about three 
weeks it wasn’t me or the phone that was having trouble getting those commands 
to work: it was the screen protector!  Can anyone suggest a thinner screen 
protector?

Best,
Phil

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> I’ve used Apple Pay a couple of times on my iPhone and it’s worked well. I’ve 
> only used it in one location though so far.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries
I’ve used Apple Pay a couple of times on my iPhone and it’s worked well. I’ve 
only used it in one location though so far.

All the best
Angie


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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Snyder
Your original post stated it was an ApplePay issue, not an issue with your 
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On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:41, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
Mary Ward

On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
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On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
mentioning them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern I 
> have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were 
> on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for 
> the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Yes, and I still recommend the Apple Card.  It’s just something to be aware of. 
 I guess that no matter how smart you think you are, you have to be paying 
attention all the time and never be so tired or upset that you don’t pay 
attention to that little voice in your heard.  Anyway, even though they didn’t 
catch it, I never had to pay for the charges.  I just would have liked for them 
to never have gone through int he first place.  Chase has been doing credit 
cards longer than GS has.


> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:29 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
> 
> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
> decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in 
> Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making 
> that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all 
> have those moments and experiences.  
> 
> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely to 
> catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
> additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to make 
> me reconsider that. :)
> Thanks again,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that 
>> I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, 
>> something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still 
>> recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  
>> 
>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
>> turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use 
>> good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to 
>> use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number 
>> for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, 
>> because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were 
>> extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them.  And 
>> ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can use 
>> cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent me a 
>> notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a charge I 
>> had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed the 
>> fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest the 
>> charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved quickly 
>> and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do think it is  
>> relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as responsive.  So I 
>> guess what I am saying is that if you think you might have been defrauded 
>> for any reason, pay attention to those notifications and take the time to go 
>> into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does happen, you will not wind 
>> up losing the money.  They are very professional about it.  But Apple Pay 
>> and the Apple Card are the easiest and most accessible ways to pay for 
>> anything that I can think of.  
>> 
>> I hope this clears it up.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
>>> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
>>> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I 
>>> don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The 
>>> immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
 love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
 Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Mary Otten
Interesting. I have had legitimate purchases declined by my Apple Card. I get a 
notification immediately telling me this was declined, did you do it? And if I 
go click yes, then it goes through. I’ve never had them not catch something. So 
that was very interesting. I have had fraud on two other cards. Nothing to do 
with Apple or my phone or anything I did. The damned thieves probably got my 
number someway somewhere but not because I lost a card or saved a card on a 
website or whatever. I never ever save credit card information anywhere Except 
on braille cards that I keep. Nobody reads braille except blind people. Smile. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:41 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> 
> I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
> was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
> never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
> this is a Chase bank issue.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
> raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
> mentioning them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern 
>> I have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people 
>> were on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait 
>> for the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
>> Mary Ward
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Lorie McCloud
I use Apple pay on my phone quite often. I’ve never had any problems with it. 

sometimes it doesn’t gothrough when I try to use it on my Mac. I’m not sure why 
that is.

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Mary,

Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but my 
husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.

I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in Sicily 
for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was completely 
unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase 
felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments 
and experiences.  

I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely to 
catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to make 
me reconsider that. :)
Thanks again,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that 
> I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, 
> something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still 
> recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  
> 
> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
> turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use good 
> judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to use 
> two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number for 
> one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, 
> because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were extremely 
> courteous and professional when I spoke with them.  And ultimately, I did not 
> lose any money, so I feel confident that I can use cards from both these 
> companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent me a notification that there 
> was a charge, and when I looked it was a charge I had not made.  The only 
> difference was that Chase never allowed the fraudulent charge in the first 
> place, while I actually had to contest the charges with Apple.  This took a 
> couple of weeks and was resolved quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy 
> with my Apple Card.  But I do think it is  relevant that their fraud 
> protection was not quite as responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that 
> if you think you might have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to 
> those notifications and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look 
> around.  If it does happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are 
> very professional about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest 
> and most accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
> 
> I hope this clears it up.  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
>> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
>> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t 
>> get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The 
>> immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at all 
to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some major 
purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that I always 
know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, something I 
have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still recommend the 
Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  

But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use good 
judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to use two 
credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number for one of 
them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, because both 
frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were extremely courteous and 
professional when I spoke with them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, 
so I feel confident that I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple 
Card in particularly sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I 
looked it was a charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase 
never allowed the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to 
contest the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do think 
it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as responsive.  So I 
guess what I am saying is that if you think you might have been defrauded for 
any reason, pay attention to those notifications and take the time to go into 
the Wallet app and look around.  If it does happen, you will not wind up losing 
the money.  They are very professional about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple 
Card are the easiest and most accessible ways to pay for anything that I can 
think of.  

I hope this clears it up.  



> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t 
> get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The immediate 
> notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, sorry, yes, I did get that.  I still think it’s a good idea.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:11 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Correction….
> What I said is that I have one card set up as the default card on my watch, 
> and another set up as the default on my iPhone.
> Both cards are available on both devices.
> The Mac works differently than the watch and the iPhone, which I did not 
> address.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Brad,
> 
> Thanks for all this, it’s very helpful.  Clever idea to have one card set up 
> on your watch, and another on your Mac.  In part I’m doing this to get set up 
> for our trip this summer, so I'm trying to figure out most secure options.  I 
> like the idea that if either my phone or watch were to be stolen, my other 
> device would have a different card.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I use both Apple Pay and the Apple card.
>> Apple Pay is easy to set up and easy to use. I'm able to use it on both my 
>> watch and my iPhone. I have said the default card to be different on each 
>> device. I use my Chase  debit card as the default on my watch, and my Apple 
>> card as the default on my iPhone. This set up works very well for me.
>> 
>> As mentioned above, I also have an Apple card and have been using it since 
>> it's initial rollout a few years ago. I really like the Apple card. One of 
>> the best features of the card is that it is all taken care of through the 
>> Wallet app on your iPhone. Transactions are easily monitored, and refunds 
>> happen much faster with the Apple Card than on my Chase Visa.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries


I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
Mary Ward

On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
this is a Chase bank issue.

- Brad -

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Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
mentioning them.
Cheers,
Donna

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> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern I 
> have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were 
> on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for 
> the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Snyder
I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
this is a Chase bank issue.

- Brad -

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Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
mentioning them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern I 
> have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were 
> on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for 
> the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Snyder
Correction….
What I said is that I have one card set up as the default card on my watch, and 
another set up as the default on my iPhone.
Both cards are available on both devices.
The Mac works differently than the watch and the iPhone, which I did not 
address.

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On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi Brad,

Thanks for all this, it’s very helpful.  Clever idea to have one card set up on 
your watch, and another on your Mac.  In part I’m doing this to get set up for 
our trip this summer, so I'm trying to figure out most secure options.  I like 
the idea that if either my phone or watch were to be stolen, my other device 
would have a different card.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I use both Apple Pay and the Apple card.
> Apple Pay is easy to set up and easy to use. I'm able to use it on both my 
> watch and my iPhone. I have said the default card to be different on each 
> device. I use my Chase  debit card as the default on my watch, and my Apple 
> card as the default on my iPhone. This set up works very well for me.
> 
> As mentioned above, I also have an Apple card and have been using it since 
> it's initial rollout a few years ago. I really like the Apple card. One of 
> the best features of the card is that it is all taken care of through the 
> Wallet app on your iPhone. Transactions are easily monitored, and refunds 
> happen much faster with the Apple Card than on my Chase Visa.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
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> 
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> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Mary Otten
I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t 
get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The immediate 
notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Its easy on any apple device supporting it.
I use it with my Iphone and iPad mini and Apple Watch and it works fairly well.
It works with my Mac but I have to use my phone to confirm things.
I don’t have any Touch Bar or such on my keyboard.
/A

> 6 mars 2024 kl. 15:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you raise 
are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you mentioning 
them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
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> have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were 
> on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for 
> the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball. 
> Mary Ward
> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Brad,

Thanks for all this, it’s very helpful.  Clever idea to have one card set up on 
your watch, and another on your Mac.  In part I’m doing this to get set up for 
our trip this summer, so I'm trying to figure out most secure options.  I like 
the idea that if either my phone or watch were to be stolen, my other device 
would have a different card.
Cheers,
Donna

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> I use both Apple Pay and the Apple card.
> Apple Pay is easy to set up and easy to use. I'm able to use it on both my 
> watch and my iPhone. I have said the default card to be different on each 
> device. I use my Chase  debit card as the default on my watch, and my Apple 
> card as the default on my iPhone. This set up works very well for me.
> 
> As mentioned above, I also have an Apple card and have been using it since 
> it's initial rollout a few years ago. I really like the Apple card. One of 
> the best features of the card is that it is all taken care of through the 
> Wallet app on your iPhone. Transactions are easily monitored, and refunds 
> happen much faster with the Apple Card than on my Chase Visa.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
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> Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern I 
have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were on 
the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for the 
money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball. 
Mary Ward

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
I use both. Love them both. Apple Card is very accessible. So it was Apple Pay.
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Snyder
I use both Apple Pay and the Apple card.
Apple Pay is easy to set up and easy to use. I'm able to use it on both my 
watch and my iPhone. I have said the default card to be different on each 
device. I use my Chase  debit card as the default on my watch, and my Apple 
card as the default on my iPhone. This set up works very well for me.

As mentioned above, I also have an Apple card and have been using it since it's 
initial rollout a few years ago. I really like the Apple card. One of the best 
features of the card is that it is all taken care of through the Wallet app on 
your iPhone. Transactions are easily monitored, and refunds happen much faster 
with the Apple Card than on my Chase Visa.

- Brad -

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Hi all,

Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would love 
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Thanks,
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RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread pdevasto0219
I use it on my phone but not on the Mac. I've had very good luck with it. All 
you have to do is hold the phone over the reader, and I use touch ID on my 
iPhone SE and the payment goes through real quick.

Pete De Vasto

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Hi all,

Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would love 
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Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, yeah, that is handy.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:59 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> Cool! What I like on the Mac is it can fill out info like shipping and 
> whatnot.
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:47, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Thanks.  I think I’d be more likely to use it on my phone than on my Mac, so 
>> that’s good to know.
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:45 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use Apple Pay on the Phone and to some degree on the Mac. It is easy to 
>>> use on the Phone, both online and in a store.
>>> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Herbie Allen
Cool! What I like on the Mac is it can fill out info like shipping and whatnot.

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:47, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Thanks.  I think I’d be more likely to use it on my phone than on my Mac, so 
> that’s good to know.
> Donna
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:45 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> I use Apple Pay on the Phone and to some degree on the Mac. It is easy to 
>> use on the Phone, both online and in a store.
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>>> Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thanks.  I think I’d be more likely to use it on my phone than on my Mac, so 
that’s good to know.
Donna
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:45 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I use Apple Pay on the Phone and to some degree on the Mac. It is easy to use 
> on the Phone, both online and in a store.
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Herbie Allen
I use Apple Pay on the Phone and to some degree on the Mac. It is easy to use 
on the Phone, both online and in a store.

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
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