Re: New window versus new tab
Yeah that's what I do. I thought htere was a faster way. ah well. S On Jun 23, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Presuming you already have some tabs open, press VO + Up to stop interacting > with HTML, then move left and right to the tab you desire and then VO + space > to perform a mouse click then VO + Down to interact with HTML > > I guess you can now see why some users prefer to use windows instead of tabs, > not sure if there is a key stroke like VO+F2 to enable users to quickly > navigate tabs in their preferred order instead of using control + TAB which > lets you cycle through in a linear format. > > Chris > On 24 Jun 2010, at 07:07, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Now how do I move to a new tab? I'm still kind of stumpped on that one. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Linda, >>> >>> I totally forgot about Command + (accent) ` yes this is a very good way >>> to cycle through open windows, quicker then VO+F2, although pressing F2 >>> twice reads out the title of the current window and the title of the other >>> open windows when moving the cursor keys up and down. That is what I love >>> about the Mac, there are so many ways to do the same task which enables you >>> to find a way that suits you instead of being forced to do it one way only. >>> >>> Chris >>> On 24 Jun 2010, at 00:27, Linda Adams wrote: >>> >>>> Chris, >>>> >>>> Yes, your explanation was very good. BTW, I've been using >>>> command-accent to cycle through windows. Since I've gotten used to >>>> that, I guess I'll stick with it. >>>> >>>> Linda >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:40 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: New window versus new tab >>>> >>>> >>>> Ok I can appreciate why this might be confusing. For myself when I was >>>> sighted a few months ago I always preferred tabs as it visually keeps >>>> the desktop tidy and keeps all your safari windows in one place. Plus >>>> if I was on several different websites such as Amazon or Play i could >>>> quickly compare prices between the two sites instead of having to keep >>>> moving open windows around. >>>> >>>> As a blind user now I guess it just comes down to what you are used to >>>> and comfortable with With tabs I can quickly cycle through them with >>>> Control + TAB. But equally so with open windows you can VO+F2 and then >>>> select the window from the list. >>>> >>>> So there is no right or wrong way, I would just say for a sighted person >>>> I think most people would prefer tabs. >>>> >>>> Does this answer your question? >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> On 23 Jun 2010, at 23:24, Linda Adams wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chris and others, >>>>> >>>>> I need a simple basic explanation of the difference (in Safari) >>>>> between opening a new window with command N versus opening a new tab >>>>> with command T. Are they used differently in some way? >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> Linda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:17 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating >>>> >>>>> by form field and text >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In the voice utility VO+F8 you can activate sounds and this will give >>>>> you an indication when a web page has loaded. This will save you from >>>> >>>>> having to use the auto speak tor page summary read out when a web page >>>> >>>>> is loaded. >>>>> >>>>> Quick Nav is toggled on and off by pressing left and right together. >>>>> >>>>> To open a new tab, press command + T >>
Re: New window versus new tab
Presuming you already have some tabs open, press VO + Up to stop interacting with HTML, then move left and right to the tab you desire and then VO + space to perform a mouse click then VO + Down to interact with HTML I guess you can now see why some users prefer to use windows instead of tabs, not sure if there is a key stroke like VO+F2 to enable users to quickly navigate tabs in their preferred order instead of using control + TAB which lets you cycle through in a linear format. Chris On 24 Jun 2010, at 07:07, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Now how do I move to a new tab? I'm still kind of stumpped on that one. > > Take care. > > S > On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Linda, >> >> I totally forgot about Command + (accent) ` yes this is a very good way to >> cycle through open windows, quicker then VO+F2, although pressing F2 twice >> reads out the title of the current window and the title of the other open >> windows when moving the cursor keys up and down. That is what I love about >> the Mac, there are so many ways to do the same task which enables you to >> find a way that suits you instead of being forced to do it one way only. >> >> Chris >> On 24 Jun 2010, at 00:27, Linda Adams wrote: >> >>> Chris, >>> >>> Yes, your explanation was very good. BTW, I've been using >>> command-accent to cycle through windows. Since I've gotten used to >>> that, I guess I'll stick with it. >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:40 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: New window versus new tab >>> >>> >>> Ok I can appreciate why this might be confusing. For myself when I was >>> sighted a few months ago I always preferred tabs as it visually keeps >>> the desktop tidy and keeps all your safari windows in one place. Plus >>> if I was on several different websites such as Amazon or Play i could >>> quickly compare prices between the two sites instead of having to keep >>> moving open windows around. >>> >>> As a blind user now I guess it just comes down to what you are used to >>> and comfortable with With tabs I can quickly cycle through them with >>> Control + TAB. But equally so with open windows you can VO+F2 and then >>> select the window from the list. >>> >>> So there is no right or wrong way, I would just say for a sighted person >>> I think most people would prefer tabs. >>> >>> Does this answer your question? >>> >>> Chris >>> On 23 Jun 2010, at 23:24, Linda Adams wrote: >>> >>>> Chris and others, >>>> >>>> I need a simple basic explanation of the difference (in Safari) >>>> between opening a new window with command N versus opening a new tab >>>> with command T. Are they used differently in some way? >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> Linda >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:17 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating >>> >>>> by form field and text >>>> >>>> >>>> In the voice utility VO+F8 you can activate sounds and this will give >>>> you an indication when a web page has loaded. This will save you from >>> >>>> having to use the auto speak tor page summary read out when a web page >>> >>>> is loaded. >>>> >>>> Quick Nav is toggled on and off by pressing left and right together. >>>> >>>> To open a new tab, press command + T >>>> To cycle through the open tabs select Control + Tab >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> If you want to send apple any feedback go to www.apple.com/feedback >>>> and you can also write to accessibil...@apple.com >>>> >>>> Hope this helps >>>> On 23 Jun 2010, at 07:58, Alfredo wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for verifying my suspicion that having the page read >>>>> automatically m
Re: New window versus new tab
Now how do I move to a new tab? I'm still kind of stumpped on that one. Take care. S On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Linda, > > I totally forgot about Command + (accent) ` yes this is a very good way to > cycle through open windows, quicker then VO+F2, although pressing F2 twice > reads out the title of the current window and the title of the other open > windows when moving the cursor keys up and down. That is what I love about > the Mac, there are so many ways to do the same task which enables you to find > a way that suits you instead of being forced to do it one way only. > > Chris > On 24 Jun 2010, at 00:27, Linda Adams wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> Yes, your explanation was very good. BTW, I've been using >> command-accent to cycle through windows. Since I've gotten used to >> that, I guess I'll stick with it. >> >> Linda >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:40 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: New window versus new tab >> >> >> Ok I can appreciate why this might be confusing. For myself when I was >> sighted a few months ago I always preferred tabs as it visually keeps >> the desktop tidy and keeps all your safari windows in one place. Plus >> if I was on several different websites such as Amazon or Play i could >> quickly compare prices between the two sites instead of having to keep >> moving open windows around. >> >> As a blind user now I guess it just comes down to what you are used to >> and comfortable with With tabs I can quickly cycle through them with >> Control + TAB. But equally so with open windows you can VO+F2 and then >> select the window from the list. >> >> So there is no right or wrong way, I would just say for a sighted person >> I think most people would prefer tabs. >> >> Does this answer your question? >> >> Chris >> On 23 Jun 2010, at 23:24, Linda Adams wrote: >> >>> Chris and others, >>> >>> I need a simple basic explanation of the difference (in Safari) >>> between opening a new window with command N versus opening a new tab >>> with command T. Are they used differently in some way? >>> >>> TIA, >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:17 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating >> >>> by form field and text >>> >>> >>> In the voice utility VO+F8 you can activate sounds and this will give >>> you an indication when a web page has loaded. This will save you from >> >>> having to use the auto speak tor page summary read out when a web page >> >>> is loaded. >>> >>> Quick Nav is toggled on and off by pressing left and right together. >>> >>> To open a new tab, press command + T >>> To cycle through the open tabs select Control + Tab >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> If you want to send apple any feedback go to www.apple.com/feedback >>> and you can also write to accessibil...@apple.com >>> >>> Hope this helps >>> On 23 Jun 2010, at 07:58, Alfredo wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for verifying my suspicion that having the page read >>>> automatically made me not land on an edit field automatically. This >>>> will help me tremendously as I am an avid internet user and do not >>>> need to know if a page is loaded or not. Although, it would be nice >>>> to have an audio feedback when the page loads, or the option to set >> on >>> >>>> instead of having the page be read automatically upon opening. >>>> Jumping >>> >>>> by element would be a great feature, a time saver, and I believe it >>>> is >>> >>>> needed, I will write about about this. I did not know that you could >>>> browse the web with such ease using quick nave, you activate quick >>>> nave by pressing the up arrow key in conjunction with the down arrow >>>> key right? Thanks for the command VO + J, to jump to the text edit >>>> field, I
Re: New window versus new tab
Linda, I totally forgot about Command + (accent) ` yes this is a very good way to cycle through open windows, quicker then VO+F2, although pressing F2 twice reads out the title of the current window and the title of the other open windows when moving the cursor keys up and down. That is what I love about the Mac, there are so many ways to do the same task which enables you to find a way that suits you instead of being forced to do it one way only. Chris On 24 Jun 2010, at 00:27, Linda Adams wrote: > Chris, > > Yes, your explanation was very good. BTW, I've been using > command-accent to cycle through windows. Since I've gotten used to > that, I guess I'll stick with it. > > Linda > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:40 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: New window versus new tab > > > Ok I can appreciate why this might be confusing. For myself when I was > sighted a few months ago I always preferred tabs as it visually keeps > the desktop tidy and keeps all your safari windows in one place. Plus > if I was on several different websites such as Amazon or Play i could > quickly compare prices between the two sites instead of having to keep > moving open windows around. > > As a blind user now I guess it just comes down to what you are used to > and comfortable with With tabs I can quickly cycle through them with > Control + TAB. But equally so with open windows you can VO+F2 and then > select the window from the list. > > So there is no right or wrong way, I would just say for a sighted person > I think most people would prefer tabs. > > Does this answer your question? > > Chris > On 23 Jun 2010, at 23:24, Linda Adams wrote: > >> Chris and others, >> >> I need a simple basic explanation of the difference (in Safari) >> between opening a new window with command N versus opening a new tab >> with command T. Are they used differently in some way? >> >> TIA, >> Linda >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:17 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating > >> by form field and text >> >> >> In the voice utility VO+F8 you can activate sounds and this will give >> you an indication when a web page has loaded. This will save you from > >> having to use the auto speak tor page summary read out when a web page > >> is loaded. >> >> Quick Nav is toggled on and off by pressing left and right together. >> >> To open a new tab, press command + T >> To cycle through the open tabs select Control + Tab >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> If you want to send apple any feedback go to www.apple.com/feedback >> and you can also write to accessibil...@apple.com >> >> Hope this helps >> On 23 Jun 2010, at 07:58, Alfredo wrote: >> >>> Thanks for verifying my suspicion that having the page read >>> automatically made me not land on an edit field automatically. This >>> will help me tremendously as I am an avid internet user and do not >>> need to know if a page is loaded or not. Although, it would be nice >>> to have an audio feedback when the page loads, or the option to set > on >> >>> instead of having the page be read automatically upon opening. >>> Jumping >> >>> by element would be a great feature, a time saver, and I believe it >>> is >> >>> needed, I will write about about this. I did not know that you could >>> browse the web with such ease using quick nave, you activate quick >>> nave by pressing the up arrow key in conjunction with the down arrow >>> key right? Thanks for the command VO + J, to jump to the text edit >>> field, I did not this existed as the starting guide has not told me > or >> >>> did not tell me, or explained this. Even greater thanks for the >>> suggestion to click command + L, then VO + right arrow, twice, to get > >>> to do a Google search. Do you know if this will open a new tab, or >>> will it just replace the webpage I am on? Is the control >>> + option +T command used in voice over or in jaws? >>> Thanks, >>> alfredo >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message beca
Re: New window versus new tab
When I was sighted I used tabs because they used to sayt hat opening new windows would take more ram, which, if you had many opened windows, would slow down your computer. Tabs open the new web page inside the browser window which saves ram by not having to open a new instance of the browser. I do not know if this is tru today, but I suppose it should hold tru. Tab browsing is not only for the sighted but for the blind, as you can manage your opened webpages, since when wanting to change to another webpage you just control + tab. When you want to change to another program, you would just command + tab, a few times, instead of many times because the webpages are opened in a program window. Alfredo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New window versus new tab
That is a very good answer! I am totally blind and personally like tabs better. it just seems smoother and faster to me than bringing up window chooser. Peggy Fleischer peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, 1:25 To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power, Both now and forever. Amen. On Jun 23, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Ok I can appreciate why this might be confusing. For myself when I was > sighted a few months ago I always preferred tabs as it visually keeps the > desktop tidy and keeps all your safari windows in one place. Plus if I was > on several different websites such as Amazon or Play i could quickly compare > prices between the two sites instead of having to keep moving open windows > around. > > As a blind user now I guess it just comes down to what you are used to and > comfortable with With tabs I can quickly cycle through them with Control + > TAB. But equally so with open windows you can VO+F2 and then select the > window from the list. > > So there is no right or wrong way, I would just say for a sighted person I > think most people would prefer tabs. > > Does this answer your question? > > Chris > On 23 Jun 2010, at 23:24, Linda Adams wrote: > >> Chris and others, >> >> I need a simple basic explanation of the difference (in Safari) between >> opening a new window with command N versus opening a new tab with >> command T. >> Are they used differently in some way? >> >> TIA, >> Linda >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:17 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating >> by form field and text >> >> >> In the voice utility VO+F8 you can activate sounds and this will give >> you an indication when a web page has loaded. This will save you from >> having to use the auto speak tor page summary read out when a web page >> is loaded. >> >> Quick Nav is toggled on and off by pressing left and right together. >> >> To open a new tab, press command + T >> To cycle through the open tabs select Control + Tab >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> If you want to send apple any feedback go to www.apple.com/feedback and >> you can also write to accessibil...@apple.com >> >> Hope this helps >> On 23 Jun 2010, at 07:58, Alfredo wrote: >> >>> Thanks for verifying my suspicion that having the page read >>> automatically made me not land on an edit field automatically. This >>> will help me tremendously as I am an avid internet user and do not >>> need to know if a page is loaded or not. Although, it would be nice >>> to have an audio feedback when the page loads, or the option to set on >> >>> instead of having the page be read automatically upon opening. Jumping >> >>> by element would be a great feature, a time saver, and I believe it is >> >>> needed, I will write about about this. I did not know that you could >>> browse the web with such ease using quick nave, you activate quick >>> nave by pressing the up arrow key in conjunction with the down arrow >>> key right? Thanks for the command VO + J, to jump to the text edit >>> field, I did not this existed as the starting guide has not told me or >> >>> did not tell me, or explained this. Even greater thanks for the >>> suggestion to click command + L, then VO + right arrow, twice, to get >>> to do a Google search. Do you know if this will open a new tab, or >>> will it just replace the webpage I am on? Is the control >>> + option +T command used in voice over or in jaws? >>> Thanks, >>> alfredo >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2957 - Release Date: 06/23/10 >> 06:36:00 >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegro
RE: New window versus new tab
Chris, Yes, your explanation was very good. BTW, I've been using command-accent to cycle through windows. Since I've gotten used to that, I guess I'll stick with it. Linda -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New window versus new tab Ok I can appreciate why this might be confusing. For myself when I was sighted a few months ago I always preferred tabs as it visually keeps the desktop tidy and keeps all your safari windows in one place. Plus if I was on several different websites such as Amazon or Play i could quickly compare prices between the two sites instead of having to keep moving open windows around. As a blind user now I guess it just comes down to what you are used to and comfortable with With tabs I can quickly cycle through them with Control + TAB. But equally so with open windows you can VO+F2 and then select the window from the list. So there is no right or wrong way, I would just say for a sighted person I think most people would prefer tabs. Does this answer your question? Chris On 23 Jun 2010, at 23:24, Linda Adams wrote: > Chris and others, > > I need a simple basic explanation of the difference (in Safari) > between opening a new window with command N versus opening a new tab > with command T. Are they used differently in some way? > > TIA, > Linda > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:17 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating > by form field and text > > > In the voice utility VO+F8 you can activate sounds and this will give > you an indication when a web page has loaded. This will save you from > having to use the auto speak tor page summary read out when a web page > is loaded. > > Quick Nav is toggled on and off by pressing left and right together. > > To open a new tab, press command + T > To cycle through the open tabs select Control + Tab > > Hope this helps. > > If you want to send apple any feedback go to www.apple.com/feedback > and you can also write to accessibil...@apple.com > > Hope this helps > On 23 Jun 2010, at 07:58, Alfredo wrote: > >> Thanks for verifying my suspicion that having the page read >> automatically made me not land on an edit field automatically. This >> will help me tremendously as I am an avid internet user and do not >> need to know if a page is loaded or not. Although, it would be nice >> to have an audio feedback when the page loads, or the option to set on > >> instead of having the page be read automatically upon opening. >> Jumping > >> by element would be a great feature, a time saver, and I believe it >> is > >> needed, I will write about about this. I did not know that you could >> browse the web with such ease using quick nave, you activate quick >> nave by pressing the up arrow key in conjunction with the down arrow >> key right? Thanks for the command VO + J, to jump to the text edit >> field, I did not this existed as the starting guide has not told me or > >> did not tell me, or explained this. Even greater thanks for the >> suggestion to click command + L, then VO + right arrow, twice, to get >> to do a Google search. Do you know if this will open a new tab, or >> will it just replace the webpage I am on? Is the control >> + option +T command used in voice over or in jaws? >> Thanks, >> alfredo >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2957 - Release Date: 06/23/10 > 06:36:00 > > > -- > Y
Re: New window versus new tab
Ok I can appreciate why this might be confusing. For myself when I was sighted a few months ago I always preferred tabs as it visually keeps the desktop tidy and keeps all your safari windows in one place. Plus if I was on several different websites such as Amazon or Play i could quickly compare prices between the two sites instead of having to keep moving open windows around. As a blind user now I guess it just comes down to what you are used to and comfortable with With tabs I can quickly cycle through them with Control + TAB. But equally so with open windows you can VO+F2 and then select the window from the list. So there is no right or wrong way, I would just say for a sighted person I think most people would prefer tabs. Does this answer your question? Chris On 23 Jun 2010, at 23:24, Linda Adams wrote: > Chris and others, > > I need a simple basic explanation of the difference (in Safari) between > opening a new window with command N versus opening a new tab with > command T. > Are they used differently in some way? > > TIA, > Linda > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:17 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating > by form field and text > > > In the voice utility VO+F8 you can activate sounds and this will give > you an indication when a web page has loaded. This will save you from > having to use the auto speak tor page summary read out when a web page > is loaded. > > Quick Nav is toggled on and off by pressing left and right together. > > To open a new tab, press command + T > To cycle through the open tabs select Control + Tab > > Hope this helps. > > If you want to send apple any feedback go to www.apple.com/feedback and > you can also write to accessibil...@apple.com > > Hope this helps > On 23 Jun 2010, at 07:58, Alfredo wrote: > >> Thanks for verifying my suspicion that having the page read >> automatically made me not land on an edit field automatically. This >> will help me tremendously as I am an avid internet user and do not >> need to know if a page is loaded or not. Although, it would be nice >> to have an audio feedback when the page loads, or the option to set on > >> instead of having the page be read automatically upon opening. Jumping > >> by element would be a great feature, a time saver, and I believe it is > >> needed, I will write about about this. I did not know that you could >> browse the web with such ease using quick nave, you activate quick >> nave by pressing the up arrow key in conjunction with the down arrow >> key right? Thanks for the command VO + J, to jump to the text edit >> field, I did not this existed as the starting guide has not told me or > >> did not tell me, or explained this. Even greater thanks for the >> suggestion to click command + L, then VO + right arrow, twice, to get >> to do a Google search. Do you know if this will open a new tab, or >> will it just replace the webpage I am on? Is the control >> + option +T command used in voice over or in jaws? >> Thanks, >> alfredo >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2957 - Release Date: 06/23/10 > 06:36:00 > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
