Re: Voice control on Mac running Sonoma
Yes Gabe you’re right, on the Mac voice control interprets what it hears from voice as your dictation which gets some pretty screwy results as you say. In order to use it you really have to use headphones to keep voiceover in your ear and not in voice controls microphone ear. All that said I’ve decided to ditch it and just stick with the dictation feature to enter text. Works very very well and it can save a whole lot of typing and where in tear on the carpal tunnel situation. Sent from my IPhone > On Dec 6, 2023, at 11:37 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote: > > Hi, > > I've never used voice control on a Mac. However, I can say that I do not > recommend it at least on an iOS device for someone who uses VoiceOver. It > tends to listen to everything you say and in a text message or email you can > get double entries of everything because it thinks you're also dictating. I > don't know if the Mac would have the same behaviors but if forced to guess > would say it probably will. > > Gabe > > > >> On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:27 PM, kd0iko2...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hello, I use dictation for all my r >> >> written correspondence. Unfortunately compost dictation creates more issues >> than it solves. So I am forced to use Dragon professional standalone. I'm >> using version 15.60. I know the company has a version 16. When using J-Say >> along with Jaws for windows. This setup seems to be working reasonably well. >> As most will remember I use parallels desktop Pro. This is because this is >> the only official Microsoft, and Apple officially sanctioned, and supported >> configuration one running Windows on a Aram Mac. >> >> Sometimes I do use "voice control" but I find that some of the word >> predictions because of using AI can be a bit tricky. The solution I'm using >> seems to be working well for the most part. Unfortunately, no dictation >> solution is going to be 100% accurate. >> Sincerely Maurice Mines. >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >> Behalf Of Phil Halton >> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 9:47 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Voice control on Mac running Sonoma >> >> Hi Kelly, thanks. I do use dictation but I’m hoping to look into voice >> control for the editing commands it has. It’s funny how we never read a full >> message and miss so much. You’ll notice that I said in my message that I >> used dictation for the bulk of my typing. Funny how that works. >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> >>>> On Dec 6, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I don’t use Voice Control but I do use Dictation fairly often to enter >>> text. You can configure this so a double press for example of the control >>> key turns on dictation, enter your text by voice and tap control again. >>> >>> >>> >>>>> On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Phil Halton wrote: >>>> >>>> Is anyone successfully using voice control features to work with >>>> documents, creating, editing etc.? I can see how it might have >>>> possibilities although it’s for certain that you have to wear headphones >>>> or take some precautions so that voiceover output isn’t bled in and >>>> mistaken as your commands by voice control. That leads to some very >>>> interesting recursive activity. Anyway, I have carpal tunnel problems and >>>> don’t want to aggravate them with excessive typing. If this is a viable >>>> solution that is voice control commands in text documents, that would be a >>>> great thing for me. As of now, with my new MacBook Pro running Sonoma, I >>>> have discovered how to use dictation to do the bulk of my typing, but also >>>> want to explore the possibilities for voice control with its extensive >>>> editing commands. I’m hoping somebody out there is using voice control >>>> successfully to work with their Mac. Please let me know how it’s working >>>> for you. >>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visi
Re: Voice control on Mac running Sonoma
Hi, I've never used voice control on a Mac. However, I can say that I do not recommend it at least on an iOS device for someone who uses VoiceOver. It tends to listen to everything you say and in a text message or email you can get double entries of everything because it thinks you're also dictating. I don't know if the Mac would have the same behaviors but if forced to guess would say it probably will. Gabe > On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:27 PM, kd0iko2...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello, I use dictation for all my r > > written correspondence. Unfortunately compost dictation creates more issues > than it solves. So I am forced to use Dragon professional standalone. I'm > using version 15.60. I know the company has a version 16. When using J-Say > along with Jaws for windows. This setup seems to be working reasonably well. > As most will remember I use parallels desktop Pro. This is because this is > the only official Microsoft, and Apple officially sanctioned, and supported > configuration one running Windows on a Aram Mac. > > Sometimes I do use "voice control" but I find that some of the word > predictions because of using AI can be a bit tricky. The solution I'm using > seems to be working well for the most part. Unfortunately, no dictation > solution is going to be 100% accurate. > Sincerely Maurice Mines. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Phil Halton > Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 9:47 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Voice control on Mac running Sonoma > > Hi Kelly, thanks. I do use dictation but I’m hoping to look into voice > control for the editing commands it has. It’s funny how we never read a full > message and miss so much. You’ll notice that I said in my message that I used > dictation for the bulk of my typing. Funny how that works. > Sent from my IPhone > > >> On Dec 6, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I don’t use Voice Control but I do use Dictation fairly often to enter text. >> You can configure this so a double press for example of the control key >> turns on dictation, enter your text by voice and tap control again. >> >> >> >>>> On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Phil Halton wrote: >>> >>> Is anyone successfully using voice control features to work with documents, >>> creating, editing etc.? I can see how it might have possibilities although >>> it’s for certain that you have to wear headphones or take some precautions >>> so that voiceover output isn’t bled in and mistaken as your commands by >>> voice control. That leads to some very interesting recursive activity. >>> Anyway, I have carpal tunnel problems and don’t want to aggravate them with >>> excessive typing. If this is a viable solution that is voice control >>> commands in text documents, that would be a great thing for me. As of now, >>> with my new MacBook Pro running Sonoma, I have discovered how to use >>> dictation to do the bulk of my typing, but also want to explore the >>> possibilities for voice control with its extensive editing commands. I’m >>> hoping somebody out there is using voice control successfully to work with >>> their Mac. Please let me know how it’s working for you. >>> Sent from my IPhone >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBE4403E-A373-4B5D-B094-89D8996EB02C%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >
RE: Voice control on Mac running Sonoma
Hello, I use dictation for all my r written correspondence. Unfortunately compost dictation creates more issues than it solves. So I am forced to use Dragon professional standalone. I'm using version 15.60. I know the company has a version 16. When using J-Say along with Jaws for windows. This setup seems to be working reasonably well. As most will remember I use parallels desktop Pro. This is because this is the only official Microsoft, and Apple officially sanctioned, and supported configuration one running Windows on a Aram Mac. Sometimes I do use "voice control" but I find that some of the word predictions because of using AI can be a bit tricky. The solution I'm using seems to be working well for the most part. Unfortunately, no dictation solution is going to be 100% accurate. Sincerely Maurice Mines. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 9:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice control on Mac running Sonoma Hi Kelly, thanks. I do use dictation but I’m hoping to look into voice control for the editing commands it has. It’s funny how we never read a full message and miss so much. You’ll notice that I said in my message that I used dictation for the bulk of my typing. Funny how that works. Sent from my IPhone > On Dec 6, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: > > Hi, > > I don’t use Voice Control but I do use Dictation fairly often to enter text. > You can configure this so a double press for example of the control key turns > on dictation, enter your text by voice and tap control again. > > > >> On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Phil Halton wrote: >> >> Is anyone successfully using voice control features to work with documents, >> creating, editing etc.? I can see how it might have possibilities although >> it’s for certain that you have to wear headphones or take some precautions >> so that voiceover output isn’t bled in and mistaken as your commands by >> voice control. That leads to some very interesting recursive activity. >> Anyway, I have carpal tunnel problems and don’t want to aggravate them with >> excessive typing. If this is a viable solution that is voice control >> commands in text documents, that would be a great thing for me. As of now, >> with my new MacBook Pro running Sonoma, I have discovered how to use >> dictation to do the bulk of my typing, but also want to explore the >> possibilities for voice control with its extensive editing commands. I’m >> hoping somebody out there is using voice control successfully to work with >> their Mac. Please let me know how it’s working for you. >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBE4403E-A373-4B5D-B094-89D8996EB02C%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the we
Re: Voice control on Mac running Sonoma
Hi Kelly, thanks. I do use dictation but I’m hoping to look into voice control for the editing commands it has. It’s funny how we never read a full message and miss so much. You’ll notice that I said in my message that I used dictation for the bulk of my typing. Funny how that works. Sent from my IPhone > On Dec 6, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Kelly Ford wrote: > > Hi, > > I don’t use Voice Control but I do use Dictation fairly often to enter text. > You can configure this so a double press for example of the control key turns > on dictation, enter your text by voice and tap control again. > > > >> On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Phil Halton wrote: >> >> Is anyone successfully using voice control features to work with documents, >> creating, editing etc.? I can see how it might have possibilities although >> it’s for certain that you have to wear headphones or take some precautions >> so that voiceover output isn’t bled in and mistaken as your commands by >> voice control. That leads to some very interesting recursive activity. >> Anyway, I have carpal tunnel problems and don’t want to aggravate them with >> excessive typing. If this is a viable solution that is voice control >> commands in text documents, that would be a great thing for me. As of now, >> with my new MacBook Pro running Sonoma, I have discovered how to use >> dictation to do the bulk of my typing, but also want to explore the >> possibilities for voice control with its extensive editing commands. I’m >> hoping somebody out there is using voice control successfully to work with >> their Mac. Please let me know how it’s working for you. >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBE4403E-A373-4B5D-B094-89D8996EB02C%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EE2C5632-9EC7-40CA-BEA4-103E528B53F7%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BC298E8B-0626-4D9D-8698-C9196E537771%40gmail.com.
Re: Voice control on Mac running Sonoma
Hi, I don’t use Voice Control but I do use Dictation fairly often to enter text. You can configure this so a double press for example of the control key turns on dictation, enter your text by voice and tap control again. > On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Phil Halton wrote: > > Is anyone successfully using voice control features to work with documents, > creating, editing etc.? I can see how it might have possibilities although > it’s for certain that you have to wear headphones or take some precautions so > that voiceover output isn’t bled in and mistaken as your commands by voice > control. That leads to some very interesting recursive activity. Anyway, I > have carpal tunnel problems and don’t want to aggravate them with excessive > typing. If this is a viable solution that is voice control commands in text > documents, that would be a great thing for me. As of now, with my new MacBook > Pro running Sonoma, I have discovered how to use dictation to do the bulk of > my typing, but also want to explore the possibilities for voice control with > its extensive editing commands. I’m hoping somebody out there is using voice > control successfully to work with their Mac. Please let me know how it’s > working for you. > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBE4403E-A373-4B5D-B094-89D8996EB02C%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EE2C5632-9EC7-40CA-BEA4-103E528B53F7%40gmail.com.
