Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
Actually, you can use the HomePod to play Pandora, and I believe now Spotify. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > That's one major disadvantage of the home pods, if you want to play anything > other than something on Apple music, you have to use your phone to stream the > content and at that point, the home pod is basically functioning as an > external speaker for your phone. The Amazon echo devices and Google Home > devices support several radio streaming services directly. Unless Apple makes > more services available directly on the Home Pod, it will never compete with > the Echo or Google home devices. > >> On Mar 16, 2021, at 6:23 PM, matthew dyer >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am referring to being able to tell the HomePod to play it directly without >> having to use your phone. For example, on my android phone and probably.e >> on my iPhone 8+ though I have not tested this I should be able to tell Sirri >> to play a station on Sirius-xm. I can tell my Samsung device to do this and >> google speakers can do this after you set it up. You can not do this on >> apple speakers, HTH. >> >> Matthew >> >> >> >>>> On Mar 16, 2021, at 9:42 AM, kliph miller Sr >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Its been publicly announced that serious XM will be allowed to be your >>> default music service in IOS14.5 >>> >>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the >>> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound >>> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here >>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io >>> Let’s master editing audio together! >>> >>>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:28 PM, matthew dyer >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> My only complante with apple is þ they don't have access to Sirius XM as >>>> least not through the speaker. I have considered a google home for that >>>> or an amazon speaker. >>>> >>>> Matthew >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, >>>> HomePod Mini, USA Today >>>> >>>> Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My >>>> problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the >>>> Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? >>>> And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even >>>> on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time >>>> and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. >>>> So I totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all >>>> about me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that >>>> exists on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just >>>> screwed up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. >>>> The homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, >>>>> at least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play >>>>> every station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or >>>>> iHeart. You might give that another try. >>>>> >>>>> I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I >>>>> mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some >>>>> of the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by >>>>> creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But >>>>> you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. >>>>> >>>>> All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those >>>>> issues. The al
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
That's one major disadvantage of the home pods, if you want to play anything other than something on Apple music, you have to use your phone to stream the content and at that point, the home pod is basically functioning as an external speaker for your phone. The Amazon echo devices and Google Home devices support several radio streaming services directly. Unless Apple makes more services available directly on the Home Pod, it will never compete with the Echo or Google home devices. > On Mar 16, 2021, at 6:23 PM, matthew dyer > wrote: > > Hi, > > I am referring to being able to tell the HomePod to play it directly without > having to use your phone. For example, on my android phone and probably.e on > my iPhone 8+ though I have not tested this I should be able to tell Sirri to > play a station on Sirius-xm. I can tell my Samsung device to do this and > google speakers can do this after you set it up. You can not do this on > apple speakers, HTH. > > Matthew > > > >> On Mar 16, 2021, at 9:42 AM, kliph miller Sr >> wrote: >> >> Its been publicly announced that serious XM will be allowed to be your >> default music service in IOS14.5 >> >> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the >> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound >> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here >> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io >> Let’s master editing audio together! >> >>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:28 PM, matthew dyer >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> My only complante with apple is þ they don't have access to Sirius XM as >>> least not through the speaker. I have considered a google home for that or >>> an amazon speaker. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod >>> Mini, USA Today >>> >>> Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My >>> problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the >>> Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? >>> And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even >>> on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time >>> and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So >>> I totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all >>> about me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that >>> exists on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just >>> screwed up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. >>> The homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at >>>> least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play >>>> every station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or >>>> iHeart. You might give that another try. >>>> >>>> I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I >>>> mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of >>>> the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by >>>> creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But >>>> you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. >>>> >>>> All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those >>>> issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the >>>> mini. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t >>>>> think Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and >>>>> never mind privacy issues. That is, pr
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
Not bothered with the privacy thing. Amazon or google are not perfect but I mean I am connected to the internet day in and day out, there is only so much privacy I am getting at this point. On 3/16/21, kliph miller Sr wrote: > Not yet, that’s all I will say for now > > >> On Mar 16, 2021, at 6:23 PM, matthew dyer >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am referring to being able to tell the HomePod to play it directly >> without having to use your phone. For example, on my android phone and >> probably.e on my iPhone 8+ though I have not tested this I should be able >> to tell Sirri to play a station on Sirius-xm. I can tell my Samsung >> device to do this and google speakers can do this after you set it up. >> You can not do this on apple speakers, HTH. >> >> Matthew >> >> >> >>> On Mar 16, 2021, at 9:42 AM, kliph miller Sr >> <mailto:kliph.miller...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Its been publicly announced that serious XM will be allowed to be your >>> default music service in IOS14.5 >>> >>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all >>> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files >>> sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here >>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io >>> <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>Let’s master editing audio >>> together! >>> >>>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:28 PM, matthew dyer >>>> >>> <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> My only complante with apple is þ they don't have access to Sirius XM as >>>> least not through the speaker. I have considered a google home for that >>>> or an amazon speaker. >>>> >>>> Matthew >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, >>>> HomePod Mini, USA Today >>>> >>>> Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. >>>> My problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. >>>> And the Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri >>>> won’t. Why not? And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web >>>> far too often. Even on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the >>>> leading AI of its time and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging >>>> into my privacy matters. So I totally agree with you there. But I don’t >>>> think you have to know all about me in order to play a given radio >>>> station in a foreign country that exists on a service with which Apple >>>> supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. This is one area where >>>> Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s are really nice >>>> speakers in my opinion. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, >>>>> at least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to >>>>> play every station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, >>>>> or iHeart. You might give that another try. >>>>> >>>>> I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. >>>>> I mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but >>>>> some of the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved >>>>> that by creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different >>>>> name. But you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. >>>>> >>>>> All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix >>>>> those issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
Not yet, that’s all I will say for now > On Mar 16, 2021, at 6:23 PM, matthew dyer > wrote: > > Hi, > > I am referring to being able to tell the HomePod to play it directly without > having to use your phone. For example, on my android phone and probably.e on > my iPhone 8+ though I have not tested this I should be able to tell Sirri to > play a station on Sirius-xm. I can tell my Samsung device to do this and > google speakers can do this after you set it up. You can not do this on > apple speakers, HTH. > > Matthew > > > >> On Mar 16, 2021, at 9:42 AM, kliph miller Sr > <mailto:kliph.miller...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Its been publicly announced that serious XM will be allowed to be your >> default music service in IOS14.5 >> >> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the >> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound >> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here >> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io >> <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>Let’s master editing audio >> together! >> >>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:28 PM, matthew dyer >> <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> My only complante with apple is þ they don't have access to Sirius XM as >>> least not through the speaker. I have considered a google home for that or >>> an amazon speaker. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod >>> Mini, USA Today >>> >>> Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My >>> problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the >>> Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? >>> And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even >>> on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time >>> and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So >>> I totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all >>> about me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that >>> exists on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just >>> screwed up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. >>> The homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at >>>> least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play >>>> every station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or >>>> iHeart. You might give that another try. >>>> >>>> I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I >>>> mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of >>>> the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by >>>> creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But >>>> you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. >>>> >>>> All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those >>>> issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the >>>> mini. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten >>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t >>>>> think Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and >>>>> never mind privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
Hi, I am referring to being able to tell the HomePod to play it directly without having to use your phone. For example, on my android phone and probably.e on my iPhone 8+ though I have not tested this I should be able to tell Sirri to play a station on Sirius-xm. I can tell my Samsung device to do this and google speakers can do this after you set it up. You can not do this on apple speakers, HTH. Matthew On Mar 16, 2021, at 9:42 AM, kliph miller Sr mailto:kliph.miller...@gmail.com>> wrote: Its been publicly announced that serious XM will be allowed to be your default music service in IOS14.5 Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>Let’s master editing audio together! On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:28 PM, matthew dyer mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi, My only complante with apple is þ they don't have access to Sirius XM as least not through the speaker. I have considered a google home for that or an amazon speaker. Matthew -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart. You might give that another try. I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the mini. Cheers, Donna On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Donna, I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. Apple screwed up. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi, Mary, I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. lol That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not that any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling of privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris that can al
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
Its been publicly announced that serious XM will be allowed to be your default music service in IOS14.5 Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>Let’s master editing audio together! > On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:28 PM, matthew dyer > wrote: > > Hi, > > My only complante with apple is þ they don't have access to Sirius XM as > least not through the speaker. I have considered a google home for that or > an amazon speaker. > > Matthew > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod > Mini, USA Today > > Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My > problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the > Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? > And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on > the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and > totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I > totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about me > in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists on a > service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. > This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s > are really nice speakers in my opinion. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at >> least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every >> station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart. You >> might give that another try. >> >> I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I >> mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of >> the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by >> creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But >> you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. >> >> All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those >> issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the >> mini. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> Hi Donna, >>> I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think >>> Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind >>> privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. >>> Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play >>> reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch >>> among music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google >>> certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean >>> really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and >>> still sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that >>> was one of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I >>> have my nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The >>> performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. >>> Apple screwed up. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, Mary, >>>> >>>> I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. >>>> lol That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not >>>> that any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling >>>> of privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of >>>> the Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. >>>> >>>> I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
I'm not sure how much the Home Pod mini sells for, I've heard the larger home pod sounds really good, but it was more expensive than the echo or google home series, and it sounds like you are confirming what the reviews have said, the capabilities are lacking compared to the Echo and google home devices. > On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with the > homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They really > have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no way I’m > interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods for the > sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good as > speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I guess > maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really screwed it up! > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 5:55 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the mini. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> Well, I knew this day would come. I did not think it would happen so soon >>> but . >>> >>> Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to >>> add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the >>> sounds balance. This feature has long since been available on the Amazon >>> Echo devices. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA >>> Today >>> >>> Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on >>> HomePod mini >>> >>> Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing >>> the smart speaker. >>> >>> The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its >>> new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99. >>> "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available >>> while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and >>> Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by >>> TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini." >>> >>> Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for >>> comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website >>> with the mini available for $99. >>> >>> Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original >>> HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did >>> little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo, >>> the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the >>> Google Home. >>> >>> The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as >>> calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the >>> ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even >>> AirPods. >>> >>> The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning >>> models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November, >>> Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so >>> music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger >>> visual and haptic responses on the phone. >>> >>> In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021 >>> fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago. >>> >>> The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue >>> high from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December >>> 2020, as consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus >>> pandemic. >>> >>> Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY >>> >>> Original Article at: >>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app >>> le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>
RE: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
Hi, My only complante with apple is þ they don't have access to Sirius XM as least not through the speaker. I have considered a google home for that or an amazon speaker. Matthew -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at > least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every > station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart. You > might give that another try. > > I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I > mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of > the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by > creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But you're > right, that shouldn't be necessary. > > All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those > issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the mini. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Donna, >> I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think >> Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind >> privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. >> Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play >> reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among >> music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google >> certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean >> really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still >> sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one >> of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my >> nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The >> performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. >> Apple screwed up. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Mary, >>> >>> I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. >>> lol That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not >>> that any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling >>> of privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the >>> Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. >>> >>> I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris that >>> can also play music. I have one in the bedroom, and one down in the >>> exercise room. Neither are places where I'm totally focused on the sound >>> quality so it's fine. But I would never want a Mini in one of the main >>> living spaces of the house. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with >>>> the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They >>>> really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no >>>> way I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods >>>> for the sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good >>&g
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Thank you! I must have just overlooked it. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > oh good. Now I know I can use this saying. :-) > > You can find the setting via the Home app. Open HomePod settings and scroll > down to Music & Podcast headline. Below you’ll find the setting. to adjust > the volume automatically. Should be the third setting. > > All the best > Jürgen > > > >> Am 15.03.2021 um 13:59 schrieb 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> : >> >> Hi Jurgen, >> >> We have the exact same expression in English, don’t bet on the wrong horse. >> So your translation was perfect. :) >> >> I haven’t noticed volume problems on the Mini, but I don’t use it to listen >> to music nearly as often. I like having a music and Siri device in parts of >> the house where I wouldn’t spend the money on good speakers, but that’s as >> far as the mini goes, in my opinion. >> >> Where is the setting to adjust volume automatically between songs? I didn’t >> know that was there, and I’d definitely check it. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPad >> On Mar 15, 2021, at 2:37 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> I totally agree with you both. It seems Apple continius a poorer device, >>> still good but poorer, which suffers from the same Siri issues like its >>> bigger brothers. Sounds worse but has the same issues. And even more of it >>> as I experience my HomePod Mini. >>> Additionally to the issues you mentioned I‘m not able to increase or >>> decrease Siris volume. Yes I can tell her to decrease volume but after one >>> or two requests the volume goes up automatically. I hear music very often >>> on volume 1 in my bedroom on a Mini. Often the second song is played in an >>> increased volume. Even though I checked the option to adjust volume >>> automatically between songs. >>> So I love my original HomePods because of their great sound and I hope >>> Apple doesn‘t bets on the wrong horse. I don‘t know if I can translate this >>> german saying literally but you might know what I mean. >>> All the best >>> Jürgen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Von meinem iPad Pro gesendet >>> Am 15.03.2021 um 04:37 schrieb Mary Otten : Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. Mary Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: > Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, > at least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play > every station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or > iHeart. You might give that another try. > I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I > mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some > of the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by > creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But > you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. > All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those > issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the > mini. > Cheers, > Donna >>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Hi Donna, >> I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t >> think Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and >> never mind privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in >> these cases. Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the >> world to play reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why >> can’t you switch among music providers? Apple made a really nice >> speaker, better than Google certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon >> studio, so I can’t compare. I mean really. HomePod aside, Siri still get >> an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still sends you to the web Waymore than >> it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one of their big focuses for this >> year? Well,
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Hi Donna, oh good. Now I know I can use this saying. :-) You can find the setting via the Home app. Open HomePod settings and scroll down to Music & Podcast headline. Below you’ll find the setting. to adjust the volume automatically. Should be the third setting. All the best Jürgen > Am 15.03.2021 um 13:59 schrieb 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi Jurgen, > > We have the exact same expression in English, don’t bet on the wrong horse. > So your translation was perfect. :) > > I haven’t noticed volume problems on the Mini, but I don’t use it to listen > to music nearly as often. I like having a music and Siri device in parts of > the house where I wouldn’t spend the money on good speakers, but that’s as > far as the mini goes, in my opinion. > > Where is the setting to adjust volume automatically between songs? I didn’t > know that was there, and I’d definitely check it. > Cheers, > Donna > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 15, 2021, at 2:37 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I totally agree with you both. It seems Apple continius a poorer device, >> still good but poorer, which suffers from the same Siri issues like its >> bigger brothers. Sounds worse but has the same issues. And even more of it >> as I experience my HomePod Mini. >> Additionally to the issues you mentioned I‘m not able to increase or >> decrease Siris volume. Yes I can tell her to decrease volume but after one >> or two requests the volume goes up automatically. I hear music very often on >> volume 1 in my bedroom on a Mini. Often the second song is played in an >> increased volume. Even though I checked the option to adjust volume >> automatically between songs. >> So I love my original HomePods because of their great sound and I hope Apple >> doesn‘t bets on the wrong horse. I don‘t know if I can translate this german >> saying literally but you might know what I mean. >> All the best >> Jürgen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Von meinem iPad Pro gesendet >> >>> Am 15.03.2021 um 04:37 schrieb Mary Otten : >>> >>> Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My >>> problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the >>> Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? >>> And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even >>> on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time >>> and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So >>> I totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all >>> about me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that >>> exists on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just >>> screwed up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. >>> The homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart. You might give that another try. I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the mini. Cheers, Donna >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Donna, > I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t > think Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and > never mind privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in > these cases. Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the > world to play reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t > you switch among music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, > better than Google certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I > can’t compare. I mean really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot > of stuff wrong, and still sends you to the web Waymore than it should. > Didn’t Apple say that was one of their big focuses for this year? Well, > they blew it. So now, I have my nice HomePods which may or may not ever > see any more upgrades. The performance is not reliable. It’s not the > speaker. It’s the infrastructure. Apple screwed up. > Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 14, 2021, at
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Hi Jurgen, We have the exact same expression in English, don’t bet on the wrong horse. So your translation was perfect. :) I haven’t noticed volume problems on the Mini, but I don’t use it to listen to music nearly as often. I like having a music and Siri device in parts of the house where I wouldn’t spend the money on good speakers, but that’s as far as the mini goes, in my opinion. Where is the setting to adjust volume automatically between songs? I didn’t know that was there, and I’d definitely check it. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2021, at 2:37 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > > Hi, > I totally agree with you both. It seems Apple continius a poorer device, > still good but poorer, which suffers from the same Siri issues like its > bigger brothers. Sounds worse but has the same issues. And even more of it as > I experience my HomePod Mini. > Additionally to the issues you mentioned I‘m not able to increase or decrease > Siris volume. Yes I can tell her to decrease volume but after one or two > requests the volume goes up automatically. I hear music very often on volume > 1 in my bedroom on a Mini. Often the second song is played in an increased > volume. Even though I checked the option to adjust volume automatically > between songs. > So I love my original HomePods because of their great sound and I hope Apple > doesn‘t bets on the wrong horse. I don‘t know if I can translate this german > saying literally but you might know what I mean. > All the best > Jürgen > > > > > > > Von meinem iPad Pro gesendet > >> Am 15.03.2021 um 04:37 schrieb Mary Otten : >> >> Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My >> problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the >> Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? >> And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on >> the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and >> totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I >> totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about >> me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists >> on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed >> up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The >> homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at >>> least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play >>> every station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart. >>> You might give that another try. >>> I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I >>> mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of >>> the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by >>> creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But >>> you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. >>> All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those >>> issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the >>> mini. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna > On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Donna, I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. Apple screwed up. Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: > Hi, Mary, > I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. > lol That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. > Not that any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's > handling of privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, > none of the Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod >
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Hi, I totally agree with you both. It seems Apple continius a poorer device, still good but poorer, which suffers from the same Siri issues like its bigger brothers. Sounds worse but has the same issues. And even more of it as I experience my HomePod Mini. Additionally to the issues you mentioned I‘m not able to increase or decrease Siris volume. Yes I can tell her to decrease volume but after one or two requests the volume goes up automatically. I hear music very often on volume 1 in my bedroom on a Mini. Often the second song is played in an increased volume. Even though I checked the option to adjust volume automatically between songs. So I love my original HomePods because of their great sound and I hope Apple doesn‘t bets on the wrong horse. I don‘t know if I can translate this german saying literally but you might know what I mean. All the best Jürgen Von meinem iPad Pro gesendet > Am 15.03.2021 um 04:37 schrieb Mary Otten : > > Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My > problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the > Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? > And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on > the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and > totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I > totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about me > in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists on a > service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. > This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s > are really nice speakers in my opinion. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at >> least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every >> station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart. You >> might give that another try. >> I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I >> mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of >> the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by >> creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But >> you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. >> All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those >> issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the >> mini. >> Cheers, >> Donna On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> Hi Donna, >>> I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think >>> Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind >>> privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. >>> Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play >>> reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch >>> among music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google >>> certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean >>> really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and >>> still sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that >>> was one of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I >>> have my nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The >>> performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. >>> Apple screwed up. >>> Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: Hi, Mary, I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. lol That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not that any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling of privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris that can also play music. I have one in the bedroom, and one down in the exercise room. Neither are places where I'm totally focused on the sound quality so it's fine. But I would never want a Mini in one of the main living spaces of the house. Cheers, Donna > On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with > the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They > really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no > way I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a
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Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at > least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every > station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart. You > might give that another try. > > I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I > mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of > the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by > creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But you're > right, that shouldn't be necessary. > > All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those > issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the mini. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Donna, >> I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think >> Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind >> privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. >> Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play >> reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among >> music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google >> certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean >> really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still >> sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one >> of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my >> nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The >> performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. >> Apple screwed up. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Mary, >>> >>> I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. >>> lol That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not >>> that any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling >>> of privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the >>> Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. >>> >>> I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris that >>> can also play music. I have one in the bedroom, and one down in the >>> exercise room. Neither are places where I'm totally focused on the sound >>> quality so it's fine. But I would never want a Mini in one of the main >>> living spaces of the house. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no way I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods for the sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good as speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I guess maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really screwed it up! Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 5:55 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: > > Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the > mini. > Cheers, > Donna > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Well, I knew this day would come. I did not think it would happen so >> soon >> but . >> >> Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to >> add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the >> sounds balance. This feature has long since been available
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Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart. You might give that another try. I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But you're right, that shouldn't be necessary. All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the mini. Cheers, Donna > On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Donna, > I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think > Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind > privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. Why, > for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play reliably? > Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among music > providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google certainly, > and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean really. > HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still sends > you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one of their > big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my nice > HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The performance is > not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. Apple screwed up. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi, Mary, >> >> I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. lol >> That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not that >> any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling of >> privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the >> Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. >> >> I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris that >> can also play music. I have one in the bedroom, and one down in the exercise >> room. Neither are places where I'm totally focused on the sound quality so >> it's fine. But I would never want a Mini in one of the main living spaces of >> the house. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with >>> the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They >>> really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no >>> way I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods >>> for the sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good >>> as speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I >>> guess maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really >>> screwed it up! >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Mar 14, 2021, at 5:55 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the mini. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Well, I knew this day would come. I did not think it would happen so soon > but . > > Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to > add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the > sounds balance. This feature has long since been available on the Amazon > Echo devices. > > Mark > > Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA > Today > > Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on > HomePod mini > > Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first > releasing > the smart speaker. > > The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on > its > new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99. > "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be > available > while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores > and > Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by > TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini." > > Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for > comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's >
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Hi Donna, I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. Apple screwed up. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, Mary, > > I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. lol > That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not that > any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling of > privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the > Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. > > I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris that > can also play music. I have one in the bedroom, and one down in the exercise > room. Neither are places where I'm totally focused on the sound quality so > it's fine. But I would never want a Mini in one of the main living spaces of > the house. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with >> the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They >> really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no way >> I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods for the >> sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good as >> speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I guess >> maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really screwed it up! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 5:55 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the mini. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, Well, I knew this day would come. I did not think it would happen so soon but . Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the sounds balance. This feature has long since been available on the Amazon Echo devices. Mark Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on HomePod mini Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing the smart speaker. The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99. "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini." Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website with the mini available for $99. Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo, the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the Google Home. The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even AirPods. The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November, Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod
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Hi, Mary, I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. lol That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not that any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling of privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris that can also play music. I have one in the bedroom, and one down in the exercise room. Neither are places where I'm totally focused on the sound quality so it's fine. But I would never want a Mini in one of the main living spaces of the house. Cheers, Donna > On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with the > homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They really > have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no way I’m > interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods for the > sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good as > speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I guess > maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really screwed it up! > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 5:55 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the mini. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> Well, I knew this day would come. I did not think it would happen so soon >>> but . >>> >>> Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to >>> add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the >>> sounds balance. This feature has long since been available on the Amazon >>> Echo devices. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA >>> Today >>> >>> Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on >>> HomePod mini >>> >>> Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing >>> the smart speaker. >>> >>> The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its >>> new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99. >>> "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available >>> while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and >>> Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by >>> TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini." >>> >>> Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for >>> comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website >>> with the mini available for $99. >>> >>> Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original >>> HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did >>> little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo, >>> the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the >>> Google Home. >>> >>> The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as >>> calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the >>> ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even >>> AirPods. >>> >>> The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning >>> models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November, >>> Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so >>> music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger >>> visual and haptic responses on the phone. >>> >>> In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021 >>> fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago. >>> >>> The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue >>> high from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December >>> 2020, as consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus >>> pandemic. >>> >>> Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY >>> >>> Original Article at: >>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app >>> le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu
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I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no way I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods for the sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good as speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I guess maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really screwed it up! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 5:55 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the mini. > Cheers, > Donna > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Well, I knew this day would come. I did not think it would happen so soon >> but . >> >> Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to >> add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the >> sounds balance. This feature has long since been available on the Amazon >> Echo devices. >> >> Mark >> >> Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA >> Today >> >> Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on >> HomePod mini >> >> Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing >> the smart speaker. >> >> The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its >> new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99. >> "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available >> while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and >> Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by >> TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini." >> >> Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for >> comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website >> with the mini available for $99. >> >> Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original >> HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did >> little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo, >> the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the >> Google Home. >> >> The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as >> calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the >> ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even >> AirPods. >> >> The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning >> models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November, >> Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so >> music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger >> visual and haptic responses on the phone. >> >> In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021 >> fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago. >> >> The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue >> high from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December >> 2020, as consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus >> pandemic. >> >> Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY >> >> Original Article at: >> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app >> le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/ >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000301d71935%2469744e70%243c5ceb50%24%40edu. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the mini. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Well, I knew this day would come. I did not think it would happen so soon > but . > > Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to > add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the > sounds balance. This feature has long since been available on the Amazon > Echo devices. > > Mark > > Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA > Today > > Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on > HomePod mini > > Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing > the smart speaker. > > The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its > new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99. > "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available > while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and > Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by > TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini." > > Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for > comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website > with the mini available for $99. > > Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original > HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did > little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo, > the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the > Google Home. > > The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as > calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the > ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even > AirPods. > > The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning > models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November, > Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so > music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger > visual and haptic responses on the phone. > > In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021 > fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago. > > The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue > high from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December > 2020, as consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus > pandemic. > > Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY > > Original Article at: > https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app > le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/ > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000301d71935%2469744e70%243c5ceb50%24%40edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DB2CA6E8-0C01-4FA6-B662-9974A9FB5C56%40me.com.
