Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-19 Thread Christopher Gilland 
Awe, today's your BD?  Well then... happy birthday!  I hope you're having a 
terrific day.

Chris.


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> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:02, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> lol!
> or who failed to read a subject line.
> Thanks, its my birthday, so I am off to prepare for my performance.
> As I positive side note though.
> There really are resources for Simon's situation.  If things had not wondered 
> in the rose garden I could not ask for those.
> Cheers,
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 19 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote:
>> 
>>  We get it, Karen, we get it. Its perfectly clear now. Forgive those who 
>> have sinned, for we failed to fully understand. Have yourself a wonderful 
>> weekend. (smiles)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 8/19/2016 7:33 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>> No,   My question was  perfectly cl
>>> Normally the first thing anyone asks is "what are you using?
>>> I did not ask for troubleshooting at all.  I asked for the name of a
>>> contact who has been provided  on this list before.
>>> Others referenced windows solutions too, and others here use terminal to
>>> virtualize  their systems.
>>> I have said more than once over the years, that  for  reasons tied to a
>>> surgical accident, most digital speech including ios voices stimulate
>>> the dizzy centres of my brain, meaning that until nuance is possible
>>> ios is out...with testing risking hospitalization.
>>> I also responded to our details by referencing my own frame of reference.
>>> I asked for a contact.  how does that sentence translate into "hey I am
>>> using this platform and cannot do this, can you give me some pointers?
>>> I believe it was you who decided, without asking, what was needful
>>> 
>>> Which is why my first follow up spoke of WACG 2.0...with Chris
>>> asking for  an explanation. regardless of circumstance a person
>>> experiencing a disability is entitled to access.
>>>   The laws governing access are based on how things work,  i. e. does
>>> the site function the same if a person hits the enter key  that it does
>>> if a person uses a mouse.
>>> Can a person get things in the accessible format of their choice, say
>>> braille,  even if for example less than 1% of those experiencing
>>> blindness in the UK read braille?
>>> 
>>> Your choice to interpret lies with you.
>>>  Ask for more information, or perhaps read more carefully.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote:
>>> >  Karen,
>>> >To be perfectly blunt, while you did not say you were using a Mac,
>>> >  you also did not state otherwise. After all, you posted to an OS X/iOS
>>> >  group. So you indeed led some astray.
>>> > >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> >  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> >  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> > >  On 8/18/2016 9:01 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>> > >   Did you read my source post?
>>> > >   at no time have I ever referenced that I amusing a mac, or ios.
>>> > >   Instead I spoke of web content access guidelines, which speak of
>>> > >   accessibility for everyone regardless of disability, and are not tool
>>> > >   specific.  I referenced the keyboard, the ability to  access content 
>>> > > > >   in
>>> > >   low graphics enviroments, like Linux,, but I never once asked for > > 
>>> > >   more
>>> > >   than the accessibility contact, nor did I once referenced mac issues.
>>> > >   I respect this list enough to know if I were  seeking to trouble
>>> > >  shoot I
>>> > >   should provide technical specifics.  you are the first to even ask > 
>>> > > >   what
>>> > >   I was doing.
>>> > >   Karen
>>> > > > > > >   On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> > > > > >   Hello,
>>> > > > >   Perhaps I'm missing something here.
>>> > > > >   Karen, et al,
>>> > > > >   I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and
>>> > >  was
>>> > > >   able to
>>> > > >   download a song with no problem.
>>> > > > >   So, what am I missing?
>>> > > > >   What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard 
>>> > > > > > > > >   to
>>> > > >   downloading MP3 files on the Mac?
>>> > > > >   Mark
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Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-19 Thread Karen Lewellen 

lol!
or who failed to read a subject line.
Thanks, its my birthday, so I am off to prepare for my performance.
As I positive side note though.
There really are resources for Simon's situation.  If things had not 
wondered in the rose garden I could not ask for those.

Cheers,
Kare


On Fri, 19 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote:

  We get it, Karen, we get it. Its perfectly clear now. Forgive those who 
have sinned, for we failed to fully understand. Have yourself a wonderful 
weekend. (smiles)


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On 8/19/2016 7:33 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 No,   My question was  perfectly cl
 Normally the first thing anyone asks is "what are you using?
 I did not ask for troubleshooting at all.  I asked for the name of a
 contact who has been provided  on this list before.
 Others referenced windows solutions too, and others here use terminal to
 virtualize  their systems.
 I have said more than once over the years, that  for  reasons tied to a
 surgical accident, most digital speech including ios voices stimulate
 the dizzy centres of my brain, meaning that until nuance is possible
 ios is out...with testing risking hospitalization.
 I also responded to our details by referencing my own frame of reference.
 I asked for a contact.  how does that sentence translate into "hey I am
 using this platform and cannot do this, can you give me some pointers?
 I believe it was you who decided, without asking, what was needful

 Which is why my first follow up spoke of WACG 2.0...with Chris
 asking for  an explanation. regardless of circumstance a person
 experiencing a disability is entitled to access.
   The laws governing access are based on how things work,  i. e. does
 the site function the same if a person hits the enter key  that it does
 if a person uses a mouse.
 Can a person get things in the accessible format of their choice, say
 braille,  even if for example less than 1% of those experiencing
 blindness in the UK read braille?

 Your choice to interpret lies with you.
  Ask for more information, or perhaps read more carefully.



 On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote:

>  Karen,
>To be perfectly blunt, while you did not say you were using a Mac,
>  you also did not state otherwise. After all, you posted to an OS X/iOS
>  group. So you indeed led some astray.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...

>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>  On 8/18/2016 9:01 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> >   Did you read my source post?
> >   at no time have I ever referenced that I amusing a mac, or ios.
> >   Instead I spoke of web content access guidelines, which speak of
> >   accessibility for everyone regardless of disability, and are not tool
> >   specific.  I referenced the keyboard, the ability to  access content 
> >   in
> >   low graphics enviroments, like Linux,, but I never once asked for 
> >   more

> >   than the accessibility contact, nor did I once referenced mac issues.
> >   I respect this list enough to know if I were  seeking to trouble
> >  shoot I
> >   should provide technical specifics.  you are the first to even ask 
> >   what

> >   I was doing.
> >   Karen
> > 
> > 
> >   On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > >   Hello,

> > > >   Perhaps I'm missing something here.
> > > >   Karen, et al,
> > > >   I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and
> >  was
> > >   able to
> > >   download a song with no problem.
> > > >   So, what am I missing?
> > > >   What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard 
> > > >   to

> > >   downloading MP3 files on the Mac?
> > > >   Mark
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Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 

Amen!  I have to say I totally agree with E.T on this one.
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- Original Message - 
From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewel...@shellworld.net>

To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan



No,   My question was  perfectly cl
Normally the first thing anyone asks is "what are you using?
I did not ask for troubleshooting at all.  I asked for the name of a 
contact who has been provided  on this list before.
Others referenced windows solutions too, and others here use terminal to 
virtualize  their systems.
I have said more than once over the years, that  for  reasons tied to a 
surgical accident, most digital speech including ios voices stimulate the 
dizzy centres of my brain, meaning that until nuance is possible  ios is 
out...with testing risking hospitalization.

I also responded to our details by referencing my own frame of reference.
I asked for a contact.  how does that sentence translate into "hey I am 
using this platform and cannot do this, can you give me some pointers?

I believe it was you who decided, without asking, what was needful

Which is why my first follow up spoke of WACG 2.0...with Chris asking for 
an explanation. regardless of circumstance a person experiencing a 
disability is entitled to access.
  The laws governing access are based on how things work,  i. e. does the 
site function the same if a person hits the enter key  that it does if a 
person uses a mouse.
Can a person get things in the accessible format of their choice, say 
braille,  even if for example less than 1% of those experiencing blindness 
in the UK read braille?


Your choice to interpret lies with you.
 Ask for more information, or perhaps read more carefully.



On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote:


Karen,
  To be perfectly blunt, while you did not say you were using a Mac, you 
also did not state otherwise. After all, you posted to an OS X/iOS group. 
So you indeed led some astray.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/18/2016 9:01 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Did you read my source post?
 at no time have I ever referenced that I amusing a mac, or ios.
 Instead I spoke of web content access guidelines, which speak of
 accessibility for everyone regardless of disability, and are not tool
 specific.  I referenced the keyboard, the ability to  access content in
 low graphics enviroments, like Linux,, but I never once asked for more
 than the accessibility contact, nor did I once referenced mac issues.
 I respect this list enough to know if I were  seeking to trouble shoot 
I

 should provide technical specifics.  you are the first to even ask what
 I was doing.
 Karen

 On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:

>  Hello,
>
>  Perhaps I'm missing something here.
>
>  Karen, et al,
>
>  I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and was
>  able to
>  download a song with no problem.
>
>  So, what am I missing?
>
>  What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard to
>  downloading MP3 files on the Mac?
>
>  Mark
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RE: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-19 Thread Karen Lewellen 

Not hostel in the least.
In  fact your subject line illustrates perfectly what a question looks 
like seeking troubleshooting.  My subject line sought a contact name.
I also wrote my reply rather late, so I did not project emotion in any 
intentional  way.
I asked for a contact that  others have shared previously.  I referenced my 
frame of context, WACG, with pa positive side meaning I can connect Simon 
with people in NZ who are aware of how those rules may apply to his work 
situation.
 You illustrate here what troubleshooting requests consist of,  and 
nothing in my first question included that information.

Sorry if you felt intensity where none was presented.
Kare


On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:


Karen,

To answer your question, yes, I did read your original post.

To be honest, your reply comes across as being a bit hostile.  I am not
certain if this is intentional or unintentional but, regardless, I ask that
you keep in mind two very important aspects of this community:

1.
While we do enjoy discussing various aspects of technology, our primary
purpose is to support each other in the use of Apple products.
Consequently, it is not unreasonable for anyone to assume that, unless
otherwise specified, when one describes an unresolved challenge, that one is
referring to, at minimum, an Apple product, most likely being Mac OS.

2.
While, sometimes, the members of this community take time to wade through
all of the messages in order to obtain solutions to various problems, more
often than not, we do so in order to help others resolve their challenges.

When I first saw your message, I was in the middle of a project so could not
give it the time I thought it deserved.  However, I never forgot that you
were unable to enjoy an MP3 file that you purchased.  So, as a result, I
resolved that at the first opportunity, assuming that a solution had not
been discovered, I would attempt to reproduce your scenario as I understood
it, to either confirm your results or determine a workaround.

I think you would be quite surprised at the number of people in this
community who attempted to reproduce your problem in hopes of discovering a
solution.  The fact that the original thread turned a bit harsh, is
unfortunate and probably inhibited some from posting so as not to get into
yet another proverbial firefight.

As E.T. correctly stated, "To be perfectly blunt, while you did not say you
were using a Mac, you also did not state otherwise. After all, you posted to
an OS X/iOS group ..."

Karen, regardless of the net real-world result, I and others took the time
to try to help you.  This is no small thing and should not be taken for
granted as, quite frankly, you were not taken for granted and, subsequently
not ignored.

In conclusion I'll add that I am really happy to learn that your Amazon .MP3
problem was not the result of some kind of bug with an Apple product, all
things being equal.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

Did you read my source post?
at no time have I ever referenced that I amusing a mac, or ios.
Instead I spoke of web content access guidelines, which speak of
accessibility for everyone regardless of disability, and are not tool
specific.  I referenced the keyboard, the ability to  access content in low
graphics enviroments, like Linux,, but I never once asked for more than the
accessibility contact, nor did I once referenced mac issues.
I respect this list enough to know if I were  seeking to trouble shoot I
should provide technical specifics.  you are the first to even ask what I
was doing.
Karen


On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:


Hello,

Perhaps I'm missing something here.

Karen, et al,

I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and was
able to download a song with no problem.

So, what am I missing?

What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard to
downloading MP3 files on the Mac?

Mark

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Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-19 Thread E.T. 
   We get it, Karen, we get it. Its perfectly clear now. Forgive those 
who have sinned, for we failed to fully understand. Have yourself a 
wonderful weekend. (smiles)


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On 8/19/2016 7:33 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

No,   My question was  perfectly cl
Normally the first thing anyone asks is "what are you using?
I did not ask for troubleshooting at all.  I asked for the name of a
contact who has been provided  on this list before.
Others referenced windows solutions too, and others here use terminal to
virtualize  their systems.
I have said more than once over the years, that  for  reasons tied to a
surgical accident, most digital speech including ios voices stimulate
the dizzy centres of my brain, meaning that until nuance is possible
ios is out...with testing risking hospitalization.
I also responded to our details by referencing my own frame of reference.
I asked for a contact.  how does that sentence translate into "hey I am
using this platform and cannot do this, can you give me some pointers?
I believe it was you who decided, without asking, what was needful

Which is why my first follow up spoke of WACG 2.0...with Chris
asking for  an explanation. regardless of circumstance a person
experiencing a disability is entitled to access.
  The laws governing access are based on how things work,  i. e. does
the site function the same if a person hits the enter key  that it does
if a person uses a mouse.
Can a person get things in the accessible format of their choice, say
braille,  even if for example less than 1% of those experiencing
blindness in the UK read braille?

Your choice to interpret lies with you.
 Ask for more information, or perhaps read more carefully.



On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote:


Karen,
  To be perfectly blunt, while you did not say you were using a Mac,
you also did not state otherwise. After all, you posted to an OS X/iOS
group. So you indeed led some astray.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/18/2016 9:01 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Did you read my source post?
 at no time have I ever referenced that I amusing a mac, or ios.
 Instead I spoke of web content access guidelines, which speak of
 accessibility for everyone regardless of disability, and are not tool
 specific.  I referenced the keyboard, the ability to  access content in
 low graphics enviroments, like Linux,, but I never once asked for more
 than the accessibility contact, nor did I once referenced mac issues.
 I respect this list enough to know if I were  seeking to trouble
shoot I
 should provide technical specifics.  you are the first to even ask what
 I was doing.
 Karen


 On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:

>  Hello,
> >  Perhaps I'm missing something here.
> >  Karen, et al,
> >  I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and
was
>  able to
>  download a song with no problem.
> >  So, what am I missing?
> >  What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard to
>  downloading MP3 files on the Mac?
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Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-19 Thread Karen Lewellen 

No,   My question was  perfectly cl
Normally the first thing anyone asks is 
"what are you using?
I did not ask for troubleshooting at all.  I asked for the name of a 
contact who has been provided  on this list before.
Others referenced windows solutions too, and others here use terminal to 
virtualize  their systems.
I have said more than once over the years, that  for  reasons tied to a 
surgical accident, most digital speech including ios voices stimulate the 
dizzy centres of my brain, meaning that until nuance is possible  ios 
is out...with testing risking hospitalization.

I also responded to our details by referencing my own frame of reference.
I asked for a contact.  how does that sentence translate into "hey I am 
using this platform and cannot do this, can you give me some pointers?

I believe it was you who decided, without asking, what was needful

Which is why my first follow up spoke of WACG	 2.0...with Chris asking 
for  an explanation. 
regardless of circumstance a person experiencing a disability is entitled 
to access.
  The laws governing access are based on how things work,  i. e. does 
the site function the same if a person hits the enter key  that it does if 
a person uses a mouse.
Can a person get things in the accessible format of their choice, say 
braille,  even if for example less than 1% of those experiencing blindness 
in the UK read braille?


Your choice to interpret lies with you.
 Ask for more information, or perhaps read more 
carefully.




On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote:


Karen,
  To be perfectly blunt, while you did not say you were using a Mac, you 
also did not state otherwise. After all, you posted to an OS X/iOS group. So 
you indeed led some astray.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/18/2016 9:01 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Did you read my source post?
 at no time have I ever referenced that I amusing a mac, or ios.
 Instead I spoke of web content access guidelines, which speak of
 accessibility for everyone regardless of disability, and are not tool
 specific.  I referenced the keyboard, the ability to  access content in
 low graphics enviroments, like Linux,, but I never once asked for more
 than the accessibility contact, nor did I once referenced mac issues.
 I respect this list enough to know if I were  seeking to trouble shoot I
 should provide technical specifics.  you are the first to even ask what
 I was doing.
 Karen


 On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:

>  Hello,
> 
>  Perhaps I'm missing something here.
> 
>  Karen, et al,
> 
>  I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and was

>  able to
>  download a song with no problem.
> 
>  So, what am I missing?
> 
>  What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard to

>  downloading MP3 files on the Mac?
> 
>  Mark
> 
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RE: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-19 Thread M. Taylor 
Karen,

To answer your question, yes, I did read your original post.

To be honest, your reply comes across as being a bit hostile.  I am not
certain if this is intentional or unintentional but, regardless, I ask that
you keep in mind two very important aspects of this community:

1.
While we do enjoy discussing various aspects of technology, our primary
purpose is to support each other in the use of Apple products.
Consequently, it is not unreasonable for anyone to assume that, unless
otherwise specified, when one describes an unresolved challenge, that one is
referring to, at minimum, an Apple product, most likely being Mac OS.

2.
While, sometimes, the members of this community take time to wade through
all of the messages in order to obtain solutions to various problems, more
often than not, we do so in order to help others resolve their challenges.

When I first saw your message, I was in the middle of a project so could not
give it the time I thought it deserved.  However, I never forgot that you
were unable to enjoy an MP3 file that you purchased.  So, as a result, I
resolved that at the first opportunity, assuming that a solution had not
been discovered, I would attempt to reproduce your scenario as I understood
it, to either confirm your results or determine a workaround.

I think you would be quite surprised at the number of people in this
community who attempted to reproduce your problem in hopes of discovering a
solution.  The fact that the original thread turned a bit harsh, is
unfortunate and probably inhibited some from posting so as not to get into
yet another proverbial firefight.

As E.T. correctly stated, "To be perfectly blunt, while you did not say you
were using a Mac, you also did not state otherwise. After all, you posted to
an OS X/iOS group ..."

Karen, regardless of the net real-world result, I and others took the time
to try to help you.  This is no small thing and should not be taken for
granted as, quite frankly, you were not taken for granted and, subsequently
not ignored.

In conclusion I'll add that I am really happy to learn that your Amazon .MP3
problem was not the result of some kind of bug with an Apple product, all
things being equal.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

Did you read my source post?
at no time have I ever referenced that I amusing a mac, or ios.
Instead I spoke of web content access guidelines, which speak of
accessibility for everyone regardless of disability, and are not tool
specific.  I referenced the keyboard, the ability to  access content in low
graphics enviroments, like Linux,, but I never once asked for more than the
accessibility contact, nor did I once referenced mac issues.
I respect this list enough to know if I were  seeking to trouble shoot I
should provide technical specifics.  you are the first to even ask what I
was doing.
Karen


On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Perhaps I'm missing something here.
>
> Karen, et al,
>
> I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and was 
> able to download a song with no problem.
>
> So, what am I missing?
>
> What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard to 
> downloading MP3 files on the Mac?
>
> Mark
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Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-18 Thread E.T. 

Karen,
   To be perfectly blunt, while you did not say you were using a Mac, 
you also did not state otherwise. After all, you posted to an OS X/iOS 
group. So you indeed led some astray.


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On 8/18/2016 9:01 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Did you read my source post?
at no time have I ever referenced that I amusing a mac, or ios.
Instead I spoke of web content access guidelines, which speak of
accessibility for everyone regardless of disability, and are not tool
specific.  I referenced the keyboard, the ability to  access content in
low graphics enviroments, like Linux,, but I never once asked for more
than the accessibility contact, nor did I once referenced mac issues.
I respect this list enough to know if I were  seeking to trouble shoot I
should provide technical specifics.  you are the first to even ask what
I was doing.
Karen


On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:


Hello,

Perhaps I'm missing something here.

Karen, et al,

I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and was
able to
download a song with no problem.

So, what am I missing?

What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard to
downloading MP3 files on the Mac?

Mark

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Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-18 Thread Karen Lewellen 

Did you read my source post?
at no time have I ever referenced that I amusing a mac, or ios.
Instead I spoke of web content access guidelines, which speak of 
accessibility for everyone regardless of disability, and are not tool 
specific.  I referenced the keyboard, the ability to  access content in 
low graphics enviroments, like Linux,, but I never once asked for more than the 
accessibility contact, nor did I once referenced mac issues.
I respect this list enough to know if I were  seeking to trouble shoot I 
should provide technical specifics.  you are the first to even ask what I 
was doing.

Karen


On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, M. Taylor wrote:


Hello,

Perhaps I'm missing something here.

Karen, et al,

I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and was able to
download a song with no problem.

So, what am I missing?

What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard to
downloading MP3 files on the Mac?

Mark

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Re: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan

2016-08-18 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
I agree with Mark.  This thread has veered so dang far off the mac topic, I 
don't even know what the heck we're talking about anymore.

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- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:08 PM
Subject: Downloading MP3 Music from Amazon via Safari in El Capitan



Hello,

Perhaps I'm missing something here.

Karen, et al,

I just logged into my Amazon.com account in Safari on my Mac and was able 
to

download a song with no problem.

So, what am I missing?

What exactly is it that cannot be done via VoiceOver with regard to
downloading MP3 files on the Mac?

Mark

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