Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-29 Thread Scott Granados
He’s written several papers on the subject being an academic.


> On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I would have to actually experience that to believe it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a very good friend who built an interface between his dog and a GPS 
>> mapping package.  The dog was then trained to follow a dot that a set of 
>> goggles it was wearing projected off in to space.  The dog followed the dot, 
>> the dot was controlled by the mapping software and the user could set their 
>> destination and put the dog on auto pilot.  Ok, not quite but the dog could 
>> be routed by the GPS software directly.  It was very clever.
>> 
>> I’ll be interested to see how these technologies will change when the next 
>> round of GPS is in place and the accuracy is improved even further.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Really, it doesn't matter what GPS you use, as long as you can travel 
>>> safely and reliably either in Familiar areas or in areas that you know. I 
>>> do not have the confidence in relying on GPS, Might mobility is very good, 
>>> but, I do believe in human intervention as I have a guide dog.  If I was to 
>>> use GPS, then I would rather I knew the area 1st to get the most out of my 
>>> GPS experience. 
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 28 Aug 2016, at 7:40 pm, gs  wrote:
 
 The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard 
 describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of 
 the street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never 
 identifies it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of 
 the product identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also 
 identifies it when possible, I will likely purchase it.
 
 
 
 On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley  
 wrote:
 
 At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 
 
 Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is 
 on if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this 
 possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in 
 geocodes for things like points of interest. 
 
 I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple 
 times, but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 
 
 to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does 
 provide this information when possible. 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll 
> leave it at that.
> 
> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the 
> side of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money 
> for this unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS 
> accuracy, orientation skills, or international travel. It should have 
> been obvious that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the 
> side of the street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS 
> to inform them if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right 
> side of the street.
> 
> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why 
> one would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I 
> like it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map 
> identifies the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be 
> included in the information available to a blind user if possible.
> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might 
> purchase this with faith that it might be added in the future.
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  
> wrote:
> 
> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. 
> When the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that 
> case, good O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as 
> asking people in the area.
> 
> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
> tool, it is another tool.
> 
> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on 
> O skills without GPS.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread Mary Otten
I would have to actually experience that to believe it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I have a very good friend who built an interface between his dog and a GPS 
> mapping package.  The dog was then trained to follow a dot that a set of 
> goggles it was wearing projected off in to space.  The dog followed the dot, 
> the dot was controlled by the mapping software and the user could set their 
> destination and put the dog on auto pilot.  Ok, not quite but the dog could 
> be routed by the GPS software directly.  It was very clever.
> 
> I’ll be interested to see how these technologies will change when the next 
> round of GPS is in place and the accuracy is improved even further.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Really, it doesn't matter what GPS you use, as long as you can travel safely 
>> and reliably either in Familiar areas or in areas that you know. I do not 
>> have the confidence in relying on GPS, Might mobility is very good, but, I 
>> do believe in human intervention as I have a guide dog.  If I was to use 
>> GPS, then I would rather I knew the area 1st to get the most out of my GPS 
>> experience. 
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 7:40 pm, gs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard 
>>> describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of 
>>> the street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never 
>>> identifies it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of 
>>> the product identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also 
>>> identifies it when possible, I will likely purchase it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 
>>> 
>>> Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is 
>>> on if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this 
>>> possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in 
>>> geocodes for things like points of interest. 
>>> 
>>> I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple 
>>> times, but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 
>>> 
>>> to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does 
>>> provide this information when possible. 
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
 
 Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll 
 leave it at that.
 
 Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side 
 of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for 
 this unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
 orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious 
 that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the 
 street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform 
 them if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the 
 street.
 
 Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
 would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like 
 it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map 
 identifies the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be 
 included in the information available to a blind user if possible.
 If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might 
 purchase this with faith that it might be added in the future.
 On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. 
 When the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that 
 case, good O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as 
 asking people in the area.
 
 I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
 success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
 tool, it is another tool.
 
 Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on 
 O skills without GPS.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
> 
> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I 
> am on. The concern is about the destination.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread Scott Granados
I have a very good friend who built an interface between his dog and a GPS 
mapping package.  The dog was then trained to follow a dot that a set of 
goggles it was wearing projected off in to space.  The dog followed the dot, 
the dot was controlled by the mapping software and the user could set their 
destination and put the dog on auto pilot.  Ok, not quite but the dog could be 
routed by the GPS software directly.  It was very clever.

I’ll be interested to see how these technologies will change when the next 
round of GPS is in place and the accuracy is improved even further.



> On Aug 28, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Really, it doesn't matter what GPS you use, as long as you can travel safely 
> and reliably either in Familiar areas or in areas that you know. I do not 
> have the confidence in relying on GPS, Might mobility is very good, but, I do 
> believe in human intervention as I have a guide dog.  If I was to use GPS, 
> then I would rather I knew the area 1st to get the most out of my GPS 
> experience. 
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 7:40 pm, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard 
>> describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of the 
>> street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never identifies 
>> it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of the product 
>> identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also identifies it 
>> when possible, I will likely purchase it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>> At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 
>> 
>> Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is on 
>> if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this 
>> possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in 
>> geocodes for things like points of interest. 
>> 
>> I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple 
>> times, but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 
>> 
>> to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does 
>> provide this information when possible. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave 
>>> it at that.
>>> 
>>> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side 
>>> of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this 
>>> unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
>>> orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious 
>>> that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the 
>>> street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform 
>>> them if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the 
>>> street.
>>> 
>>> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
>>> would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like 
>>> it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies 
>>> the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the 
>>> information available to a blind user if possible.
>>> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase 
>>> this with faith that it might be added in the future.
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. 
>>> When the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that 
>>> case, good O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as 
>>> asking people in the area.
>>> 
>>> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
>>> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
>>> tool, it is another tool.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on 
>>> O skills without GPS.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
 
 I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
 on. The concern is about the destination.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  
> wrote:
> 
> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the 
> street you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
> 
> 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread Christine Grassman
I have been happy with the app since downloading it over a week ago. The only 
thing driving me crazy is my inability to silence its wonky sound effects. 
Since I do not recall hearing this particular noise in the podcast, I am 
mystified as to how to shut it off. If anyone has any information, please let 
me know. Thanks much in advance. 
Christine
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Not to defend Mike, as he can do that himself, but he didn’t realize that the 
> app does indeed identify POIs when possible with the side of street 
> information included. He made a correction on the Nearby Explorer lists to 
> his assumption. I’m sure he’ll go back in and correct the podcast or have an 
> adendum for it. 
> 
> 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Janine is correct. I didn't listen to the podcast, but if Mike said that in 
>> general it didn't identify the side of the street for the destination, he 
>> was wrong.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:40 AM, gs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard 
>>> describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of 
>>> the street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never 
>>> identifies it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of 
>>> the product identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also 
>>> identifies it when possible, I will likely purchase it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 
>>> 
>>> Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is 
>>> on if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this 
>>> possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in 
>>> geocodes for things like points of interest. 
>>> 
>>> I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple 
>>> times, but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 
>>> 
>>> to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does 
>>> provide this information when possible. 
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
 
 Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll 
 leave it at that.
 
 Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side 
 of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for 
 this unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
 orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious 
 that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the 
 street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform 
 them if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the 
 street.
 
 Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
 would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like 
 it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map 
 identifies the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be 
 included in the information available to a blind user if possible.
 If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might 
 purchase this with faith that it might be added in the future.
 On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. 
 When the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that 
 case, good O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as 
 asking people in the area.
 
 I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
 success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
 tool, it is another tool.
 
 Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on 
 O skills without GPS.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
> 
> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I 
> am on. The concern is about the destination.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
>> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread Jenine Stanley
Not to defend Mike, as he can do that himself, but he didn’t realize that the 
app does indeed identify POIs when possible with the side of street information 
included. He made a correction on the Nearby Explorer lists to his assumption. 
I’m sure he’ll go back in and correct the podcast or have an adendum for it. 


Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Aug 28, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Janine is correct. I didn't listen to the podcast, but if Mike said that in 
> general it didn't identify the side of the street for the destination, he was 
> wrong.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:40 AM, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard 
>> describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of the 
>> street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never identifies 
>> it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of the product 
>> identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also identifies it 
>> when possible, I will likely purchase it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>> At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 
>> 
>> Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is on 
>> if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this 
>> possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in 
>> geocodes for things like points of interest. 
>> 
>> I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple 
>> times, but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 
>> 
>> to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does 
>> provide this information when possible. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave 
>>> it at that.
>>> 
>>> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side 
>>> of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this 
>>> unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
>>> orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious 
>>> that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the 
>>> street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform 
>>> them if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the 
>>> street.
>>> 
>>> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
>>> would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like 
>>> it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies 
>>> the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the 
>>> information available to a blind user if possible.
>>> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase 
>>> this with faith that it might be added in the future.
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. 
>>> When the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that 
>>> case, good O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as 
>>> asking people in the area.
>>> 
>>> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
>>> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
>>> tool, it is another tool.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on 
>>> O skills without GPS.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
 
 I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
 on. The concern is about the destination.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  
> wrote:
> 
> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the 
> street you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
>> This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> It's designed for blind users, but currently it 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Really, it doesn't matter what GPS you use, as long as you can travel safely 
and reliably either in Familiar areas or in areas that you know. I do not have 
the confidence in relying on GPS, Might mobility is very good, but, I do 
believe in human intervention as I have a guide dog.  If I was to use GPS, then 
I would rather I knew the area 1st to get the most out of my GPS experience. 

Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Aug 2016, at 7:40 pm, gs  wrote:
> 
> The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard 
> describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of the 
> street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never identifies 
> it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of the product 
> identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also identifies it when 
> possible, I will likely purchase it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 
> 
> Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is on 
> if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this 
> possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in 
> geocodes for things like points of interest. 
> 
> I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple times, 
> but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 
> 
> to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does provide 
> this information when possible. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave 
>> it at that.
>> 
>> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side 
>> of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this 
>> unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
>> orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious 
>> that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the 
>> street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them 
>> if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street.
>> 
>> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
>> would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like 
>> it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies 
>> the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the 
>> information available to a blind user if possible.
>> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase 
>> this with faith that it might be added in the future.
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When 
>> the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, 
>> good O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking 
>> people in the area.
>> 
>> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
>> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
>> tool, it is another tool.
>> 
>> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on 
>> O skills without GPS.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
>>> on. The concern is about the destination.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
 trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the 
 street you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
> This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
> States and Canada.
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other 
>> features that 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread David Tanner
It appears that it usually does tell the side of the street to where you were 
looking for

David Tanner

>From my iPhone 6 S

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 1:40 PM, gs  wrote:
> 
> The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard 
> describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of the 
> street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never identifies 
> it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of the product 
> identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also identifies it when 
> possible, I will likely purchase it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 
> 
> Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is on 
> if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this 
> possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in 
> geocodes for things like points of interest. 
> 
> I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple times, 
> but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 
> 
> to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does provide 
> this information when possible. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave 
>> it at that.
>> 
>> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side 
>> of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this 
>> unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
>> orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious 
>> that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the 
>> street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them 
>> if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street.
>> 
>> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
>> would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like 
>> it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies 
>> the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the 
>> information available to a blind user if possible.
>> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase 
>> this with faith that it might be added in the future.
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When 
>> the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, 
>> good O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking 
>> people in the area.
>> 
>> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
>> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
>> tool, it is another tool.
>> 
>> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on 
>> O skills without GPS.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
>>> on. The concern is about the destination.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
 trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the 
 street you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
> This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
> States and Canada.
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other 
>> features that people like with this app.
>> /A
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mark.
>>> 
>>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do 
>>> that or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread Mary Otten
Janine is correct. I didn't listen to the podcast, but if Mike said that in 
general it didn't identify the side of the street for the destination, he was 
wrong.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:40 AM, gs  wrote:
> 
> The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard 
> describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of the 
> street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never identifies 
> it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of the product 
> identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also identifies it when 
> possible, I will likely purchase it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 
> 
> Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is on 
> if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this 
> possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in 
> geocodes for things like points of interest. 
> 
> I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple times, 
> but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 
> 
> to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does provide 
> this information when possible. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave 
>> it at that.
>> 
>> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side 
>> of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this 
>> unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
>> orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious 
>> that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the 
>> street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them 
>> if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street.
>> 
>> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
>> would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like 
>> it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies 
>> the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the 
>> information available to a blind user if possible.
>> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase 
>> this with faith that it might be added in the future.
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When 
>> the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, 
>> good O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking 
>> people in the area.
>> 
>> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
>> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
>> tool, it is another tool.
>> 
>> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on 
>> O skills without GPS.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
>>> on. The concern is about the destination.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
 trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the 
 street you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
> This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
> States and Canada.
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other 
>> features that people like with this app.
>> /A
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mark.
>>> 
>>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread David Chittenden
I use a few GPS solutions including: TomTom, Apple Maps, and Google Maps. Yes, 
I only use the general market GPS mapping solutions. I also use Blind Square, 
but it is not a mapping solution. In all cases, the solutions I stated tell the 
user which side of the street the address is on. Therefore, it is a fair bet 
that Nearby Explorer will do the same.

I do not know who wrote the original question. I interpreted the phraising to 
be asking which side of the street the traveller was walking on, not which side 
of the street the destination was on, so that was the question I answered.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Aug 2016, at 04:40, gs  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave 
> it at that.
> 
> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side of 
> the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this 
> unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
> orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious that 
> what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the street of 
> the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them if they 
> (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street.
> 
> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
> would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like it. 
> I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies the 
> side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the 
> information available to a blind user if possible.
> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase 
> this with faith that it might be added in the future.
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When 
> the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, good 
> O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking people 
> in the area.
> 
> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
> tool, it is another tool.
> 
> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on O 
> skills without GPS.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
>> 
>> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
>> on. The concern is about the destination.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
>>> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street 
>>> you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
 
 Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
 This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
 On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
 
 It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
 States and Canada.
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other 
> features that people like with this app.
> /A
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark.
>> 
>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do 
>> that or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it 
>> and I’m really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,  
>>> 
>>> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
>>> iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for 
>>> the Blind.  
>>> 
>>> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
>>> whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
>>> user manual, below my signature line.
>>> 
>>> A couple of things to note, however:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread gs
The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard 
describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of the 
street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never identifies it. 
In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of the product 
identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also identifies it when 
possible, I will likely purchase it.



On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:

At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 

Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is on if 
it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this possible. 
Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in geocodes for 
things like points of interest. 

I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple times, 
but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 

to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does provide 
this information when possible. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave 
> it at that.
> 
> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side of 
> the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this 
> unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
> orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious that 
> what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the street of 
> the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them if they 
> (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street.
> 
> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
> would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like it. 
> I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies the 
> side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the 
> information available to a blind user if possible.
> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase 
> this with faith that it might be added in the future.
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When 
> the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, good 
> O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking people 
> in the area.
> 
> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
> tool, it is another tool.
> 
> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on O 
> skills without GPS.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
>> 
>> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
>> on. The concern is about the destination.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
>>> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street 
>>> you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
 
 Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
 This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
 On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
 
 It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
 States and Canada.
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other 
> features that people like with this app.
> /A
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark.
>> 
>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do 
>> that or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it 
>> and I’m really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,  
>>> 
>>> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
>>> iOS, GPS navigation 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread Jenine Stanley
At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. 

Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is on if 
it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this possible. 
Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in geocodes for 
things like points of interest. 

I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple times, 
but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. 

to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does provide 
this information when possible. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave 
> it at that.
> 
> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side of 
> the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this 
> unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, 
> orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious that 
> what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the street of 
> the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them if they 
> (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street.
> 
> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
> would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like it. 
> I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies the 
> side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the 
> information available to a blind user if possible.
> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase 
> this with faith that it might be added in the future.
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When 
> the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, good 
> O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking people 
> in the area.
> 
> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent 
> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate 
> tool, it is another tool.
> 
> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on O 
> skills without GPS.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
>> 
>> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
>> on. The concern is about the destination.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
>>> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street 
>>> you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
 
 Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
 This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
 On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
 
 It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
 States and Canada.
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other 
> features that people like with this app.
> /A
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark.
>> 
>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do 
>> that or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it 
>> and I’m really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,  
>>> 
>>> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
>>> iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for 
>>> the Blind.  
>>> 
>>> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
>>> whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
>>> user manual, below my signature line.
>>> 
>>> A couple of things to note, however:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
>>> Canada.  
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> At the time of this 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread gs
Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave it 
at that.

Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side of 
the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this unless 
it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, orientation 
skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious that what I 
intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the street of the 
destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them if they (the 
person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street.

Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one 
would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like it. I 
do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies the side 
of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the information 
available to a blind user if possible.
 If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase 
this with faith that it might be added in the future.
On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:

When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When 
the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, good 
O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking people in 
the area.

I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent success. 
It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate tool, it is 
another tool.

Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on O 
skills without GPS.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
> 
> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
> on. The concern is about the destination.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
>> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street 
>> you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
>>> This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
>>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
>>> States and Canada.
 On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
 Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
 that people like with this app.
 /A
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mark.
> 
> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
> or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
> really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
>> iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for 
>> the Blind.  
>> 
>> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
>> whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
>> user manual, below my signature line.
>> 
>> A couple of things to note, however:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
>> Canada.  
>> 
>> 2.
>> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
>> anyway, $79.99.
>> 
>> 3.
>> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in 
>> map of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available 
>> on your iOS device.
>> 
>> 4.
>> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
>> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
>> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
>> 
>> 5.
>> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
>> the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
>> consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
>> 
>> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
>> app reminds me a great deal of the 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks David, you beat me to this one. 

Also, what we have to remember regarding GPS is that any app, yes even the 
blindness specific ones, used in real time assumes you are in the middle of the 
street, rather than on a sidewalk. This is how the maps are designed which are 
at the heart of every GPS program. 

There are apps, like Key Nav for the BrailleNote series of products, PC Maps 
and I’m sure others, that allow you to explore in a virtual mode which does put 
you on one side or other of a street to a point. again, these are only as 
accurate as the maps. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not trust 
> any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street you are 
> currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. This 
>> is definitely a deal breaker for me.
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
>> States and Canada.
>>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
>>> that people like with this app.
>>> /A
 On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Hello Mark.
 
 Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
 or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
 really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
 
 Kawal.
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
> iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the 
> Blind.  
> 
> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
> whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
> user manual, below my signature line.
> 
> A couple of things to note, however:
> 
> 1.
> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
> Canada.  
> 
> 2.
> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
> anyway, $79.99.
> 
> 3.
> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map 
> of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on 
> your iOS device.
> 
> 4.
> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
> 
> 5.
> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
> the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
> consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
> 
> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
> app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation 
> solution for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am 
> referring, of course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
> 
> Okay, on to the show.  
> 
> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
> 
> Copyright 2016
> 
> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
> 
> 2016/8/19
> 
> Introduction
> 
> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
> users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
> orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
> Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined 
> with an accessible interface and customizable, current information about 
> points of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the 
> vicinity and its characteristics.
> 
> Nearby Explorer works by:
> 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, 
> letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can 
> put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the 
> values on the screen.
> 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
> information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
> 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread David Chittenden
When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When 
the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, good 
O skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking people in 
the area.

I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent success. 
It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate tool, it is 
another tool.

Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on O 
skills without GPS.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
> 
> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am 
> on. The concern is about the destination.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
>> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street 
>> you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
>>> This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
>>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
>>> States and Canada.
 On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
 Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
 that people like with this app.
 /A
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mark.
> 
> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
> or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
> really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
>> iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for 
>> the Blind.  
>> 
>> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
>> whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
>> user manual, below my signature line.
>> 
>> A couple of things to note, however:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
>> Canada.  
>> 
>> 2.
>> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
>> anyway, $79.99.
>> 
>> 3.
>> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in 
>> map of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available 
>> on your iOS device.
>> 
>> 4.
>> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
>> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
>> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
>> 
>> 5.
>> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
>> the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
>> consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
>> 
>> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
>> app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation 
>> solution for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am 
>> referring, of course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
>> 
>> Okay, on to the show.  
>> 
>> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
>> 
>> Copyright 2016
>> 
>> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
>> 
>> 2016/8/19
>> 
>> Introduction
>> 
>> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
>> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
>> users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
>> orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
>> Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined 
>> with an accessible interface and customizable, current information about 
>> points of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the 
>> vicinity and its characteristics.
>> 
>> Nearby Explorer works by:
>> 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-28 Thread Geoff Stephens
I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am on. 
The concern is about the destination.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not trust 
> any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street you are 
> currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. This 
>> is definitely a deal breaker for me.
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
>> States and Canada.
>>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
>>> that people like with this app.
>>> /A
 On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Hello Mark.
 
 Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
 or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
 really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
 
 Kawal.
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
> iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the 
> Blind.  
> 
> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
> whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
> user manual, below my signature line.
> 
> A couple of things to note, however:
> 
> 1.
> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
> Canada.  
> 
> 2.
> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
> anyway, $79.99.
> 
> 3.
> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map 
> of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on 
> your iOS device.
> 
> 4.
> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
> 
> 5.
> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
> the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
> consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
> 
> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
> app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation 
> solution for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am 
> referring, of course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
> 
> Okay, on to the show.  
> 
> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
> 
> Copyright 2016
> 
> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
> 
> 2016/8/19
> 
> Introduction
> 
> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
> users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
> orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
> Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined 
> with an accessible interface and customizable, current information about 
> points of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the 
> vicinity and its characteristics.
> 
> Nearby Explorer works by:
> 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, 
> letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can 
> put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the 
> values on the screen.
> 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
> information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
> ◦direction and streets, and
> ◦the closest point of interest.
> 
> 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as 
> you approach,
> ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems 
> in over 30 metro areas,
> ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
> ◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.
> 
> 
> Features
> 
> The information that Nearby 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-27 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, much of the time, depending on weather conditions, large buildings, 
overhangs, and meriad other factors. I have seen GPS be accurate within about 3 
feet, and I have seen it be off by almost 1.5 miles. I get an average of around 
10 to 20 feet. This can give the side of the street with nice, wide roads. 
However, it is not consistent enough to place total faith / trust in. Use good 
O skills.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Aug 2016, at 15:29, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> In my experience, the apps do a pretty good job most of the time with the 
> side of the street. That's true for the GPS in our car, not just blindness 
> apps. There certainly not perfect. But most of the time, they seem to get it 
> right. 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 7:58 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not 
>> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street 
>> you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. 
>>> This is definitely a deal breaker for me.
>>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
>>> States and Canada.
 On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
 Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
 that people like with this app.
 /A
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mark.
> 
> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
> or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
> really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
>> iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for 
>> the Blind.  
>> 
>> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
>> whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
>> user manual, below my signature line.
>> 
>> A couple of things to note, however:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
>> Canada.  
>> 
>> 2.
>> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
>> anyway, $79.99.
>> 
>> 3.
>> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in 
>> map of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available 
>> on your iOS device.
>> 
>> 4.
>> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
>> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
>> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
>> 
>> 5.
>> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
>> the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
>> consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
>> 
>> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
>> app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation 
>> solution for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am 
>> referring, of course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
>> 
>> Okay, on to the show.  
>> 
>> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
>> 
>> Copyright 2016
>> 
>> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
>> 
>> 2016/8/19
>> 
>> Introduction
>> 
>> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
>> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
>> users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
>> orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
>> Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined 
>> with an accessible interface and customizable, current information about 
>> points of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the 
>> vicinity and its characteristics.
>> 
>> Nearby Explorer works by:
>> 1.displaying a screen containing several 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-27 Thread E.T.
   Not to mention placing too much trust in technology that when it 
fails (not if it fails), one finds himself unable to resort to low tech 
options.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/27/2016 7:58 PM, David Chittenden wrote:

Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not trust 
any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street you are 
currently on. GPS is not that accurate.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:

Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. This is 
definitely a deal breaker for me.
On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United States 
and Canada.

On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features that 
people like with this app.
/A

On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Hello Mark.

Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that or 
did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m really 
glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.

Kawal.

On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS 
navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the Blind.

So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining whether or 
not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its user manual, below 
my signature line.

A couple of things to note, however:

1.
Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and Canada.

2.
At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store anyway, 
$79.99.

3.
In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map of 
North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on your iOS 
device.

4.
The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page hyperlinked 
table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html

5.
I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied the 
text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be consistent 
with the HTML version of the manual.

Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this app 
reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation solution for the 
blind and low vision that started it all; I am referring, of course, to Code 
Factory’s Mobile Geo.

Okay, on to the show.

Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,

Mark

Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide

Copyright 2016

American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.

2016/8/19

Introduction

When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main interests 
are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind users appreciate 
these features as well, but generally desire more orientation queues than are 
available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby Explorer is a GPS app designed to 
provide these queues. When combined with an accessible interface and 
customizable, current information about points of interest (POIs), the tools 
provide a meaningful picture of the vicinity and its characteristics.

Nearby Explorer works by:
1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, letting 
you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can put the phone 
to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the values on the screen.
2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
◦direction and streets, and
◦the closest point of interest.

3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as you 
approach,
◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems in over 
30 metro areas,
◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.


Features

The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler stay 
oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets, businesses, 
institutions, and public facilities, and offers continually updating distance 
and directional information to the nearest or selected location.

Nearby Explorer provides a sense of the surrounding streets and their 
relationship to the user's current position. Additionally, it enables the 
passenger in a vehicle to aid the driver with directions and suggestions.

About This Manual

This documentation was complete and accurate at the time of its writing. When 
there are 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-27 Thread Mary Otten
In my experience, the apps do a pretty good job most of the time with the side 
of the street. That's true for the GPS in our car, not just blindness apps. 
There certainly not perfect. But most of the time, they seem to get it right. 
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 7:58 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not trust 
> any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street you are 
> currently on. GPS is not that accurate.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. This 
>> is definitely a deal breaker for me.
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
>> States and Canada.
>>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
>>> that people like with this app.
>>> /A
 On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Hello Mark.
 
 Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
 or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
 really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
 
 Kawal.
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
> iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the 
> Blind.  
> 
> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
> whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
> user manual, below my signature line.
> 
> A couple of things to note, however:
> 
> 1.
> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
> Canada.  
> 
> 2.
> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
> anyway, $79.99.
> 
> 3.
> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map 
> of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on 
> your iOS device.
> 
> 4.
> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
> 
> 5.
> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
> the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
> consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
> 
> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
> app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation 
> solution for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am 
> referring, of course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
> 
> Okay, on to the show.  
> 
> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
> 
> Copyright 2016
> 
> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
> 
> 2016/8/19
> 
> Introduction
> 
> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
> users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
> orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
> Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined 
> with an accessible interface and customizable, current information about 
> points of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the 
> vicinity and its characteristics.
> 
> Nearby Explorer works by:
> 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, 
> letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can 
> put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the 
> values on the screen.
> 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
> information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
> ◦direction and streets, and
> ◦the closest point of interest.
> 
> 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as 
> you approach,
> ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems 
> in over 30 metro areas,
> ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
> ◦adjustable scope 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-27 Thread David Chittenden
Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not trust 
any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street you are 
currently on. GPS is not that accurate.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. This 
> is definitely a deal breaker for me.
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
> States and Canada.
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
>> that people like with this app.
>> /A
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mark.
>>> 
>>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
>>> or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
>>> really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
 On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,  
 
 I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
 iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the 
 Blind.  
 
 So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
 whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
 user manual, below my signature line.
 
 A couple of things to note, however:
 
 1.
 Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
 Canada.  
 
 2.
 At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
 anyway, $79.99.
 
 3.
 In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map 
 of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on 
 your iOS device.
 
 4.
 The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
 hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
 http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
 
 5.
 I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
 the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
 consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
 
 Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
 app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation solution 
 for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am referring, of 
 course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
 
 Okay, on to the show.  
 
 Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
 
 Mark
 
 Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
 
 Copyright 2016
 
 American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
 
 2016/8/19
 
 Introduction
 
 When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
 interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
 users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
 orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
 Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined with 
 an accessible interface and customizable, current information about points 
 of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the vicinity 
 and its characteristics.
 
 Nearby Explorer works by:
 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, 
 letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can 
 put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the 
 values on the screen.
 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
 information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
 ◦direction and streets, and
 ◦the closest point of interest.
 
 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as 
 you approach,
 ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems in 
 over 30 metro areas,
 ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
 ◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.
 
 
 Features
 
 The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler 
 stay oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets, businesses, 
 institutions, and public facilities, and offers continually updating 
 distance and directional information to the nearest or selected location.
 
 Nearby Explorer provides a sense of the surrounding streets and 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-27 Thread gs
Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. This is 
definitely a deal breaker for me.
On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United States 
and Canada.
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
> that people like with this app.
> /A
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark.
>> 
>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that or 
>> did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m really 
>> glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,  
>>> 
>>> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, 
>>> GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the Blind. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining whether 
>>> or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its user 
>>> manual, below my signature line.
>>> 
>>> A couple of things to note, however:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
>>> Canada.  
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
>>> anyway, $79.99.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map 
>>> of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on 
>>> your iOS device.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
>>> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
>>> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
>>> the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
>>> consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
>>> 
>>> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
>>> app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation solution 
>>> for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am referring, of 
>>> course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
>>> 
>>> Okay, on to the show.  
>>> 
>>> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
>>> 
>>> Copyright 2016
>>> 
>>> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
>>> 
>>> 2016/8/19
>>> 
>>> Introduction
>>> 
>>> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
>>> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
>>> users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
>>> orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
>>> Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined with 
>>> an accessible interface and customizable, current information about points 
>>> of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the vicinity 
>>> and its characteristics.
>>> 
>>> Nearby Explorer works by:
>>> 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, 
>>> letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can 
>>> put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the 
>>> values on the screen.
>>> 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
>>> information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
>>> ◦direction and streets, and
>>> ◦the closest point of interest.
>>> 
>>> 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as 
>>> you approach,
>>> ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems in 
>>> over 30 metro areas,
>>> ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
>>> ◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Features
>>> 
>>> The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler stay 
>>> oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets, businesses, 
>>> institutions, and public facilities, and offers continually updating 
>>> distance and directional information to the nearest or selected location.
>>> 
>>> Nearby Explorer provides a sense of the surrounding streets and their 
>>> relationship to the user's current position. Additionally, it enables the 
>>> passenger in a vehicle to aid the driver with directions and suggestions.
>>> 
>>> About This Manual
>>> 
>>> This documentation was complete and accurate at the time of its writing. 
>>> When there are updates or corrections, you may find them at 
>>> http://tech.aph.org/ne_info.htm.
>>> 
>>> There is also an email list dedicated to the use of this app. This is the 
>>> place to make 

RE: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-22 Thread Simon Fogarty
Just remember that this app is one of many that start in the northern 
hemisphere or in this case northern America and over time get pushed out to the 
rest of the world.

 Here in NZ a lot of the services that siri provides in the USA or even 
austrailia  do not work in new Zealand.

 But over time things do get pushed out.

Time takes a while.`

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Erik Burggraaf
Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2016 6:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for 
iOS, GPS Navigation App

Something has to be done about internationalisation for sure. no doubt it 
will be as soon as the product can be made financially viable.. the problem 
is that the number of Android users is  somewhat less than iPhone users. I 
see the nearby Explorer app for iPhone as a terrific thing simply for being 
able to expand the current user base and provide more licensing for the 
maps. Add to that the increasing number of Android no takers for the blind 
that can take advantage of the Play Store, particularly the vaunted new 
Braille don't touch from humanware, and the user base will hopefully expand 
to the point where a ApH has enough buying power to license the maps in 
other areas.  I'm surprised it's taken this long myself but I really 
believe that it's only a matter of time until something is done.

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On August 21, 2016 9:50:29 AM Krister Ekstrom  
wrote:

> Has anyone heard if there are plans to go worldwide with this app? Would be 
> great if they did but i have my doubts seeing that it has been on Android 
> for quite a while.
> /Krister
>
>> 21 aug. 2016 kl. 15:37 skrev Mike Arrigo :
>>
>> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
>> States and Canada.
>>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
>>> that people like with this app.
>>> /A
 On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

 Hello Mark.

 Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
 or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
 really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.

 Kawal.
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
> iOS, 
> GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the 
> Blind.
>
> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
> whether 
> or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its user 
> manual, below my signature line.
>
> A couple of things to note, however:
>
> 1.
> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
> Canada.
>
> 2.
> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
> anyway, $79.99.
>
> 3.
> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map 
> of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on 
> your iOS device.
>
> 4.
> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
>
> 5.
> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
> the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
> consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
>
> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
> app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation 
> solution 
> for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am referring, of 
> course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.
>
> Okay, on to the show.
>
> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
>
> Mark
>
> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
>
> Copyright 2016
>
> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
>
> 2016/8/19
>
> Introduction
>
> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
> users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
> orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
> Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined 
> with 
> an accessible interface and customizable, current 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-22 Thread Erik Burggraaf
Something has to be done about internationalisation for sure. no doubt it 
will be as soon as the product can be made financially viable.. the problem 
is that the number of Android users is  somewhat less than iPhone users. I 
see the nearby Explorer app for iPhone as a terrific thing simply for being 
able to expand the current user base and provide more licensing for the 
maps. Add to that the increasing number of Android no takers for the blind 
that can take advantage of the Play Store, particularly the vaunted new 
Braille don't touch from humanware, and the user base will hopefully expand 
to the point where a ApH has enough buying power to license the maps in 
other areas.  I'm surprised it's taken this long myself but I really 
believe that it's only a matter of time until something is done.


Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On August 21, 2016 9:50:29 AM Krister Ekstrom  
wrote:


Has anyone heard if there are plans to go worldwide with this app? Would be 
great if they did but i have my doubts seeing that it has been on Android 
for quite a while.

/Krister


21 aug. 2016 kl. 15:37 skrev Mike Arrigo :

It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
States and Canada.

On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
that people like with this app.

/A

On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Hello Mark.

Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.


Kawal.

On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, 
GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the Blind.


So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining whether 
or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its user 
manual, below my signature line.


A couple of things to note, however:

1.
Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and Canada.

2.
At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
anyway, $79.99.


3.
In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map 
of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on 
your iOS device.


4.
The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:

http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html

5.
I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
consistent with the HTML version of the manual.


Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation solution 
for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am referring, of 
course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.


Okay, on to the show.

Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,

Mark

Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide

Copyright 2016

American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.

2016/8/19

Introduction

When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined with 
an accessible interface and customizable, current information about points 
of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the vicinity 
and its characteristics.


Nearby Explorer works by:
1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, 
letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can 
put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the 
values on the screen.
2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),

◦direction and streets, and
◦the closest point of interest.

3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as 
you approach,
◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems in 
over 30 metro areas,

◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.


Features

The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler stay 
oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets, businesses, 
institutions, and public facilities, and offers continually updating 
distance and 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-22 Thread Erik Burggraaf
I would speculate this would not work because the app needs to get a GPS 
signal from the satellites in order to determine your location. I suppose 
there would be a chance if the app can get location services fixes the same 
as it can for satellites and as long as there is a Wi-Fi or other wireless 
device and range for it to get a position. all you could do is try it and 
let us know


Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On August 21, 2016 11:26:57 AM Vaughn Brown  wrote:


I am wondering if this app works in underground train stations such as
those  in NYC and Boston for announcing train times etc as
demonstrated for bus stops. I know it uses onboard data when it cannot
connect to cellular data or YFi.


On 8/21/16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

Has anyone heard if there are plans to go worldwide with this app? Would be
great if they did but i have my doubts seeing that it has been on Android
for quite a while.
/Krister


21 aug. 2016 kl. 15:37 skrev Mike Arrigo :

It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United
States and Canada.

On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg 
wrote:

Hi!
I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other
features that people like with this app.
/A

On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Hello Mark.

Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do
that or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it
and I’m really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.

Kawal.

On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for
iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for
the Blind.

So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining
whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its
user manual, below my signature line.

A couple of things to note, however:

1.
Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and
Canada.

2.
At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store
anyway, $79.99.

3.
In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in
map of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space
available on your iOS device.

4.
The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page
hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html

5.
I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply
copied the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may
not be consistent with the HTML version of the manual.

Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that
this app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation
solution for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am
referring, of course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.

Okay, on to the show.

Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,

Mark

Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide

Copyright 2016

American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.

2016/8/19

Introduction

When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main
interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination.
Blind users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire
more orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps.
Nearby Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When
combined with an accessible interface and customizable, current
information about points of interest (POIs), the tools provide a
meaningful picture of the vicinity and its characteristics.

Nearby Explorer works by:
1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories,
letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You
can put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine
the values on the screen.
2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more
targeted information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
◦direction and streets, and
◦the closest point of interest.

3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations
as you approach,
◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems
in over 30 metro areas,
◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.


Features

The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler
stay oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets,
businesses, institutions, and public facilities, and offers continually
updating distance and directional information to the nearest or
selected location.

Nearby Explorer provides a sense of the surrounding streets and their
relationship to the user's current position. 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
We don’t have such abilities to port apps here in Sweden from what i know.
But i am not sure.
/A
> On 21 Aug 2016, at 18:31, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> To all our friends living outside the United States and Canada,
> 
> I believe this was developed and is provided by the American Printing House 
> for the Blind (APH).
> 
> Perhaps I’m naive, but I have to believe that arrangements could be made so 
> that similar organizations in other countries could be allowed to “port” the 
> app to digital maps and languages of such countries.  I suggest you may want 
> to contact such similar organizations in your countries to request that they 
> pursue this.  It certainly would be nice if all blind persons had access to 
> as many of these sorts of apps as possible!
> 
> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
> - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure 
> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."
> - Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)--
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


RE: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-22 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks David,

 Got that later, still it sounds like a great new toy.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2016 8:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for 
iOS, GPS Navigation App

Sorry, Simon, it is only available for US and Canada.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Aug 2016, at 16:33, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this,
> 
> It will be worthwhile having a look at it, we can't go wrong having another 
> accessible gps system available to us.
> 
> It will also be interesting to see if it's usable within the down under.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2016 5:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for 
> iOS, GPS Navigation App
> 
> Ok, here is the pod cast.
> http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/p/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3
>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod cast 
>> to the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.
>>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for 
>>> someone to do a podcast demo or something.
>>> 
>>> I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
>>> another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really good 
>>> but sort of want to hear what it does first.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There is no demo rigght?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-21 Thread Bill Gallik
To all our friends living outside the United States and Canada,

I believe this was developed and is provided by the American Printing House for 
the Blind (APH).

Perhaps I’m naive, but I have to believe that arrangements could be made so 
that similar organizations in other countries could be allowed to “port” the 
app to digital maps and languages of such countries.  I suggest you may want to 
contact such similar organizations in your countries to request that they 
pursue this.  It certainly would be nice if all blind persons had access to as 
many of these sorts of apps as possible!

- Bill & Leader Dog Holland
- "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure 
they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."
- Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)--

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-21 Thread Vaughn Brown
I am wondering if this app works in underground train stations such as
those  in NYC and Boston for announcing train times etc as
demonstrated for bus stops. I know it uses onboard data when it cannot
connect to cellular data or YFi.


On 8/21/16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> Has anyone heard if there are plans to go worldwide with this app? Would be
> great if they did but i have my doubts seeing that it has been on Android
> for quite a while.
> /Krister
>
>> 21 aug. 2016 kl. 15:37 skrev Mike Arrigo :
>>
>> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United
>> States and Canada.
>>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other
>>> features that people like with this app.
>>> /A
 On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

 Hello Mark.

 Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do
 that or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it
 and I’m really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.

 Kawal.
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for
> iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for
> the Blind.
>
> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining
> whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its
> user manual, below my signature line.
>
> A couple of things to note, however:
>
> 1.
> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and
> Canada.
>
> 2.
> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store
> anyway, $79.99.
>
> 3.
> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in
> map of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space
> available on your iOS device.
>
> 4.
> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page
> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
>
> 5.
> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply
> copied the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may
> not be consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
>
> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that
> this app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation
> solution for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am
> referring, of course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.
>
> Okay, on to the show.
>
> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
>
> Mark
>
> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
>
> Copyright 2016
>
> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
>
> 2016/8/19
>
> Introduction
>
> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main
> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination.
> Blind users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire
> more orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps.
> Nearby Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When
> combined with an accessible interface and customizable, current
> information about points of interest (POIs), the tools provide a
> meaningful picture of the vicinity and its characteristics.
>
> Nearby Explorer works by:
> 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories,
> letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You
> can put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine
> the values on the screen.
> 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more
> targeted information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
> ◦direction and streets, and
> ◦the closest point of interest.
>
> 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations
> as you approach,
> ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems
> in over 30 metro areas,
> ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
> ◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.
>
>
> Features
>
> The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler
> stay oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets,
> businesses, institutions, and public facilities, and offers continually
> updating distance and directional information to the nearest or
> selected location.
>
> Nearby Explorer 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-21 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Has anyone heard if there are plans to go worldwide with this app? Would be 
great if they did but i have my doubts seeing that it has been on Android for 
quite a while.
/Krister

> 21 aug. 2016 kl. 15:37 skrev Mike Arrigo :
> 
> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United 
> States and Canada.
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
>> that people like with this app.
>> /A
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mark.
>>> 
>>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that 
>>> or did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m 
>>> really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
 On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,  
 
 I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for 
 iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the 
 Blind.  
 
 So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining 
 whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its 
 user manual, below my signature line.
 
 A couple of things to note, however:
 
 1.
 Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
 Canada.  
 
 2.
 At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
 anyway, $79.99.
 
 3.
 In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map 
 of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on 
 your iOS device.
 
 4.
 The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
 hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
 http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
 
 5.
 I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
 the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
 consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
 
 Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
 app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation solution 
 for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am referring, of 
 course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
 
 Okay, on to the show.  
 
 Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
 
 Mark
 
 Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
 
 Copyright 2016
 
 American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
 
 2016/8/19
 
 Introduction
 
 When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
 interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
 users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
 orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
 Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined with 
 an accessible interface and customizable, current information about points 
 of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the vicinity 
 and its characteristics.
 
 Nearby Explorer works by:
 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, 
 letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can 
 put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the 
 values on the screen.
 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
 information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
 ◦direction and streets, and
 ◦the closest point of interest.
 
 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as 
 you approach,
 ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems in 
 over 30 metro areas,
 ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
 ◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.
 
 
 Features
 
 The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler 
 stay oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets, businesses, 
 institutions, and public facilities, and offers continually updating 
 distance and directional information to the nearest or selected location.
 
 Nearby Explorer provides a sense of the surrounding streets and their 
 relationship to the user's current position. Additionally, it enables the 
 passenger in a vehicle to aid the driver with directions and suggestions.
 
 About This Manual
 
 This documentation was complete and accurate at the time of its writing. 
 When there are updates or 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-21 Thread Mike Arrigo
It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United States 
and Canada.
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone.
> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features 
> that people like with this app.
> /A
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mark.
>> 
>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that or 
>> did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m really 
>> glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,  
>>> 
>>> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, 
>>> GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the Blind. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining whether 
>>> or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its user 
>>> manual, below my signature line.
>>> 
>>> A couple of things to note, however:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and 
>>> Canada.  
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
>>> anyway, $79.99.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map 
>>> of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on 
>>> your iOS device.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
>>> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
>>> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied 
>>> the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be 
>>> consistent with the HTML version of the manual.
>>> 
>>> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this 
>>> app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation solution 
>>> for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am referring, of 
>>> course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
>>> 
>>> Okay, on to the show.  
>>> 
>>> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
>>> 
>>> Copyright 2016
>>> 
>>> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
>>> 
>>> 2016/8/19
>>> 
>>> Introduction
>>> 
>>> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
>>> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
>>> users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
>>> orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby 
>>> Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined with 
>>> an accessible interface and customizable, current information about points 
>>> of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the vicinity 
>>> and its characteristics.
>>> 
>>> Nearby Explorer works by:
>>> 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, 
>>> letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can 
>>> put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the 
>>> values on the screen.
>>> 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
>>> information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
>>> ◦direction and streets, and
>>> ◦the closest point of interest.
>>> 
>>> 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as 
>>> you approach,
>>> ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems in 
>>> over 30 metro areas,
>>> ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
>>> ◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Features
>>> 
>>> The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler stay 
>>> oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets, businesses, 
>>> institutions, and public facilities, and offers continually updating 
>>> distance and directional information to the nearest or selected location.
>>> 
>>> Nearby Explorer provides a sense of the surrounding streets and their 
>>> relationship to the user's current position. Additionally, it enables the 
>>> passenger in a vehicle to aid the driver with directions and suggestions.
>>> 
>>> About This Manual
>>> 
>>> This documentation was complete and accurate at the time of its writing. 
>>> When there are updates or corrections, you may find them at 
>>> http://tech.aph.org/ne_info.htm.
>>> 
>>> There is also an email list dedicated to the use of this app. This is the 
>>> place to make suggestions, provide tips, and ask questions. To subscribe to 
>>> the list, send a blank email to ne-subscr...@tech.aph.org.
>>> Adventurous users may wish to test upcoming features. To get more 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-21 Thread alwine hardus
Yes Kawal, also the dutch users would like an international version. 
Alwine

Mobiel verstuurd 

> Op 20 aug. 2016 om 20:43 heeft Kawal Gucukoglu  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Great job Mike.
> 
> I wish I could have this app as it does remind me of GEO and I would feel 
> very confident with this app.
> 
> Please could you write to APH and ask if they could release the app 
> internationally as it would be simple, they could get the maps for other 
> countries and then we could have it.  Then if they did that, we could use our 
> internet plans for google and Foresquare although I prefer google.
> 
> I totally agree with you it is not safe to shake your phone or to have to 
> interfere to get a app to tell you where you are.  I have a guide dog and 
> can’t use Seeing I or whatever it’s called here in the UK because I don’t 
> have the hands to shake the phone when working my guide dog.
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 18:23, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, here is the pod cast.
>> http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/p/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3
>>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod cast 
>>> to the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.
 On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:
 
 Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for 
 someone to do a podcast demo or something.
 
 I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
 another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really good 
 but sort of want to hear what it does first.
 
 
 There is no demo rigght?
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
 Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-21 Thread David Chittenden
Sorry, Simon, it is only available for US and Canada.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Aug 2016, at 16:33, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this,
> 
> It will be worthwhile having a look at it, we can't go wrong having another 
> accessible gps system available to us.
> 
> It will also be interesting to see if it's usable within the down under.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2016 5:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for 
> iOS, GPS Navigation App
> 
> Ok, here is the pod cast.
> http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/p/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3
>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod cast 
>> to the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.
>>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for 
>>> someone to do a podcast demo or something.
>>> 
>>> I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
>>> another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really good 
>>> but sort of want to hear what it does first.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There is no demo rigght?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-21 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Ok, so its only for the US country?
I hope they make it international as you mentioned Kawal.
/A
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 20:43, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Great job Mike.
> 
> I wish I could have this app as it does remind me of GEO and I would feel 
> very confident with this app.
> 
> Please could you write to APH and ask if they could release the app 
> internationally as it would be simple, they could get the maps for other 
> countries and then we could have it.  Then if they did that, we could use our 
> internet plans for google and Foresquare although I prefer google.
> 
> I totally agree with you it is not safe to shake your phone or to have to 
> interfere to get a app to tell you where you are.  I have a guide dog and 
> can’t use Seeing I or whatever it’s called here in the UK because I don’t 
> have the hands to shake the phone when working my guide dog.
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 18:23, Mike Arrigo > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, here is the pod cast.
>> http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/p/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3
>>  
>> 
>>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod cast 
>>> to the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.
 On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:
 
 Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for 
 someone to do a podcast demo or something.
 
 I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
 another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really good 
 but sort of want to hear what it does first.
 
 
 There is no demo rigght?
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
 Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop 

RE: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-20 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks for this,

 It will be worthwhile having a look at it, we can't go wrong having another 
accessible gps system available to us.

It will also be interesting to see if it's usable within the down under.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2016 5:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for 
iOS, GPS Navigation App

Ok, here is the pod cast.
http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/p/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3
> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod cast 
> to the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.
>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for someone 
>> to do a podcast demo or something.
>> 
>> I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
>> another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really good 
>> but sort of want to hear what it does first.
>> 
>> 
>> There is no demo rigght?
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-20 Thread Vaughn Brown
Hi Mike and everyone else,

Thank you for sharing this! I am duely impressed! Once I have the
money I will purchase it. I'll put in a request for my city to be
listed, too for the transcent.

Again, I am thrilled and Mike, your Podcast was very nicely detailed.

Kindly,
Vaughn

On 8/20/16, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> Great job Mike.
>
> I wish I could have this app as it does remind me of GEO and I would feel
> very confident with this app.
>
> Please could you write to APH and ask if they could release the app
> internationally as it would be simple, they could get the maps for other
> countries and then we could have it.  Then if they did that, we could use
> our internet plans for google and Foresquare although I prefer google.
>
> I totally agree with you it is not safe to shake your phone or to have to
> interfere to get a app to tell you where you are.  I have a guide dog and
> can’t use Seeing I or whatever it’s called here in the UK because I don’t
> have the hands to shake the phone when working my guide dog.
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Kawal.
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 18:23, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>
>> Ok, here is the pod cast.
>> http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/p/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3
>>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod
>>> cast to the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.
 On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore 
 wrote:

 Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for
 someone to do a podcast demo or something.

 I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending
 another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really
 good but sort of want to hear what it does first.


 There is no demo rigght?

 --
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac
 Visionaries list.

 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is
 Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
 Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
 an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>> Visionaries list.
>>>
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> ---
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>> Visionaries list.
>>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-20 Thread Erik Burggraaf
Hi, I just wanted to say that I've been using the nearby Explorer app for 
Android for a couple of years now. what it does for my confidence I can 
hardly describe. as I travel in a lot of unfamiliar areas, I need this app 
and had depended on mobile Geo for a long time before I was unable to use 
Windows mobile. I have to hopes for the maps. first I'm hoping that when 
mobile Geo for iOS becomes popular the number of map licenses sold will 
increase and the price of Licensing the maps will decrease overall making 
the product more affordable even than it is today. the other thing that I 
would like to see is for maps to be a little bit more region-specific IE I 
don't need maps for all of North America. I only need maps for Ontario 
Canada and Nevada United States .I would like to be able to download maps 
for those two regions and not for the entire North America.   I believe 
making the app available outside of North America has been the number one 
feature request since the app was originally released. hopefully migrating 
it to iOS will give the developers the buying power needed to make 
internationalization a reality.


Best,

Erik
.

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On August 20, 2016 2:44:21 PM Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:


Great job Mike.

I wish I could have this app as it does remind me of GEO and I would feel 
very confident with this app.


Please could you write to APH and ask if they could release the app 
internationally as it would be simple, they could get the maps for other 
countries and then we could have it.  Then if they did that, we could use 
our internet plans for google and Foresquare although I prefer google.


I totally agree with you it is not safe to shake your phone or to have to 
interfere to get a app to tell you where you are.  I have a guide dog and 
can’t use Seeing I or whatever it’s called here in the UK because I don’t 
have the hands to shake the phone when working my guide dog.


Thanks so much.

Kawal.

On 20 Aug 2016, at 18:23, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

Ok, here is the pod cast.
http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/p/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3

On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod cast 
to the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.

On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:

Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for 
someone to do a podcast demo or something.


I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really good 
but sort of want to hear what it does first.



There is no demo rigght?

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Great job Mike.

I wish I could have this app as it does remind me of GEO and I would feel very 
confident with this app.

Please could you write to APH and ask if they could release the app 
internationally as it would be simple, they could get the maps for other 
countries and then we could have it.  Then if they did that, we could use our 
internet plans for google and Foresquare although I prefer google.

I totally agree with you it is not safe to shake your phone or to have to 
interfere to get a app to tell you where you are.  I have a guide dog and can’t 
use Seeing I or whatever it’s called here in the UK because I don’t have the 
hands to shake the phone when working my guide dog.

Thanks so much.

Kawal.
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 18:23, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Ok, here is the pod cast.
> http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/p/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3
>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod cast 
>> to the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.
>>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for 
>>> someone to do a podcast demo or something.
>>> 
>>> I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
>>> another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really good 
>>> but sort of want to hear what it does first.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There is no demo rigght?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

I'm fundraising for RNIB.

Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money Giving 
page. 

To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please visit 

Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-20 Thread Mike Arrigo
Ok, here is the pod cast.
http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/p/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3
> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod cast 
> to the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.
>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for someone 
>> to do a podcast demo or something.
>> 
>> I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
>> another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really good 
>> but sort of want to hear what it does first.
>> 
>> 
>> There is no demo rigght?
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-20 Thread Mike Arrigo
I think the information it provides is worth it, I have uploaded a pod cast to 
the blind geek zone web site, just waiting for it to be posted.
> On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:
> 
> Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for someone 
> to do a podcast demo or something.
> 
> I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
> another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really good but 
> sort of want to hear what it does first.
> 
> 
> There is no demo rigght?
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-20 Thread Blee Blat
I'm not seeing anything here that BlindSquare isn't doing except that they get 
map data from a different database. So I guess we'd have to get a demo to see 
why this is or is not worth the price.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-20 Thread Brian Moore
Well, for $109.99 in the Canadian app store, I think I will wait for 
someone to do a podcast demo or something.


I get pretty good results with blind square, google maps etc so spending 
another hundred and 10 bucks might be worth it if the info is really 
good but sort of want to hear what it does first.



There is no demo rigght?

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

2016-08-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello Mark.

Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list.  Did you mean to do that or 
did you mean to send it to the GPS list?  I knew you’d get it and I’m really 
glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that.

Kawal.
> On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, 
> GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the Blind.  
> 
> So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining whether 
> or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its user manual, 
> below my signature line.
> 
> A couple of things to note, however:
> 
> 1.
> Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and Canada. 
>  
> 
> 2.
> At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store 
> anyway, $79.99.
> 
> 3.
> In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map of 
> North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on your iOS 
> device.
> 
> 4.
> The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page 
> hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is:
> http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html
> 
> 5.
> I have not edited the contents of this text in any way.  I simply copied the 
> text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be consistent 
> with the HTML version of the manual.
> 
> Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this app 
> reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation solution for 
> the blind and low vision that started it all; I am referring, of course, to 
> Code Factory’s Mobile Geo.  
> 
> Okay, on to the show.  
> 
> Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide
> 
> Copyright 2016
> 
> American Printing House for the Blind, Inc.
> 
> 2016/8/19
> 
> Introduction
> 
> When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main 
> interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind 
> users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more 
> orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby Explorer 
> is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined with an 
> accessible interface and customizable, current information about points of 
> interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the vicinity and 
> its characteristics.
> 
> Nearby Explorer works by:
> 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, 
> letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can put 
> the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the values on 
> the screen.
> 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted 
> information about: ◦points of interest (POIs),
> ◦direction and streets, and
> ◦the closest point of interest.
> 
> 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as you 
> approach,
> ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems in 
> over 30 metro areas,
> ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and
> ◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements.
> 
> 
> Features
> 
> The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler stay 
> oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets, businesses, 
> institutions, and public facilities, and offers continually updating distance 
> and directional information to the nearest or selected location.
> 
> Nearby Explorer provides a sense of the surrounding streets and their 
> relationship to the user's current position. Additionally, it enables the 
> passenger in a vehicle to aid the driver with directions and suggestions.
> 
> About This Manual
> 
> This documentation was complete and accurate at the time of its writing. When 
> there are updates or corrections, you may find them at 
> http://tech.aph.org/ne_info.htm.
> 
> There is also an email list dedicated to the use of this app. This is the 
> place to make suggestions, provide tips, and ask questions. To subscribe to 
> the list, send a blank email to ne-subscr...@tech.aph.org.
> Adventurous users may wish to test upcoming features. To get more 
> information, join the beta list by sending a blank email to 
> "neios_beta-subscr...@tech.aph.org"mailto:neios_beta-subscr...@tech.aph.org.
> 
> For the purposes of this documentation, wherever possible, APH assumes your 
> basic knowledge of Voiceover (VO) and does not, with rare exception, convey 
> information in VO terminology. For example, a VO user, must know that you 
> double tap an option to turn it on. For basics on VoiceOver, see 
> https://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/voiceover/
> 
> Limitations
> 
> To better understand the benefits and limitations of Nearby Explorer, it is 
> useful to obtain a basic understanding of how the technology