Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur
Matthew My preview pain is hidon. If you switch to colum layout, this is fine, but the normal standderedview this happens. On 12/1/2020 5:07 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote: Try this: find with vo+right arrow the vertical spliter just after messages pain. Interact with it & vo+down arrow until you hear 100%. Stop interacting and see if it does the trick. On 1 Dec 2020, at 22:00, Matthew Dyer wrote: I am using bixer on a mac mini. The problem I have is that despite mail set not to show preview lines, previews are still spoken. Is this what we are talking about? If so, this was a problem in catilina. I have not found a way to fix this. Hth. Hi, On 12/1/2020 8:13 AM, 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries wrote: I was actually having this issue with Catalina. All message preview was turned off, but it was still giving me sender, subject, and 1st 2 lines. Info I don’t want to here. Sent from my iPadPro On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: True, but this changes the displayed layout of the selected mailbox. This does not resolve the issue. - Brad - On Nov 30, 2020, at 09:44, John Panarese wrote: You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column layout. I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur. On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: I am also experiencing this issue. This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list. I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful in modifying this behavior. This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur. - Brad - On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick wrote: Hi all, So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with Xcode and my iPhone (it didn’t help). At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail. Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” prior to reading the sender. I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering if there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases? I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything. Thanks for any help. Jeff -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C1D8FDE5-D28D-4A0B-A93A-B9124E6B738E%40berwick.name. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB201D33-9F75-4BF1-9095-765A4667C6D5%40swbell.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur
Try this: find with vo+right arrow the vertical spliter just after messages pain. Interact with it & vo+down arrow until you hear 100%. Stop interacting and see if it does the trick. > On 1 Dec 2020, at 22:00, Matthew Dyer > wrote: > > I am using bixer on a mac mini. The problem I have is that despite mail set > not to show preview lines, previews are still spoken. Is this what we are > talking about? If so, this was a problem in catilina. I have not found a > way to fix this. Hth. > > > > Hi, > > > > > On 12/1/2020 8:13 AM, 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> I was actually having this issue with Catalina. All message preview was >> turned off, but it was still giving me sender, subject, and 1st 2 lines. >> Info I don’t want to here. >> >> >> Sent from my iPadPro >> >>> On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: >>> >>> True, but this changes the displayed layout of the selected mailbox. This >>> does not resolve the issue. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> On Nov 30, 2020, at 09:44, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>> You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column >>> layout. I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur. >>> >>> On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: I am also experiencing this issue. This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list. I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful in modifying this behavior. This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur. - Brad - On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick wrote: Hi all, So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with Xcode and my iPhone (it didn’t help). At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail. Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” prior to reading the sender. I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering if there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases? I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything. Thanks for any help. Jeff -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C1D8FDE5-D28D-4A0B-A93A-B9124E6B738E%40berwick.name. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB201D33-9F75-4BF1-9095-765A4667C6D5%40swbell.net. >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can
Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur
I am using bixer on a mac mini. The problem I have is that despite mail set not to show preview lines, previews are still spoken. Is this what we are talking about? If so, this was a problem in catilina. I have not found a way to fix this. Hth. Hi, On 12/1/2020 8:13 AM, 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries wrote: I was actually having this issue with Catalina. All message preview was turned off, but it was still giving me sender, subject, and 1st 2 lines. Info I don’t want to here. Sent from my iPadPro On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: True, but this changes the displayed layout of the selected mailbox. This does not resolve the issue. - Brad - On Nov 30, 2020, at 09:44, John Panarese wrote: You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column layout. I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur. On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: I am also experiencing this issue. This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list. I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful in modifying this behavior. This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur. - Brad - On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick wrote: Hi all, So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with Xcode and my iPhone (it didn’t help). At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail. Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” prior to reading the sender. I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering if there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases? I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything. Thanks for any help. Jeff -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C1D8FDE5-D28D-4A0B-A93A-B9124E6B738E%40berwick.name. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB201D33-9F75-4BF1-9095-765A4667C6D5%40swbell.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C3B96C03-E83F-4BE1-8E19-A98974218841%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or
Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur
I was actually having this issue with Catalina. All message preview was turned off, but it was still giving me sender, subject, and 1st 2 lines. Info I don’t want to here. Sent from my iPadPro > On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > True, but this changes the displayed layout of the selected mailbox. This > does not resolve the issue. > > - Brad - > > On Nov 30, 2020, at 09:44, John Panarese wrote: > > You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column > layout. I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur. > > >> On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: >> >> I am also experiencing this issue. >> This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list. >> I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to >> make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful >> in modifying this behavior. >> >> This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur. >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with >> Xcode and my iPhone (it didn’t help). >> >> At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail. >> Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” >> prior to reading the sender. >> >> I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering >> if there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases? >> >> I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> Jeff >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C1D8FDE5-D28D-4A0B-A93A-B9124E6B738E%40berwick.name. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB201D33-9F75-4BF1-9095-765A4667C6D5%40swbell.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C3B96C03-E83F-4BE1-8E19-A98974218841%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators
Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur
That did it for me! Thank you so much—I was about to lose my mind. Jeff > On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:43 AM, John Panarese wrote: > > You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column layout. > I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur. > > >> On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: >> >> I am also experiencing this issue. >> This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list. >> I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to >> make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful >> in modifying this behavior. >> >> This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur. >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with >> Xcode and my iPhone (it didn’t help). >> >> At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail. >> Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” >> prior to reading the sender. >> >> I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering >> if there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases? >> >> I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> Jeff >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C1D8FDE5-D28D-4A0B-A93A-B9124E6B738E%40berwick.name. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB201D33-9F75-4BF1-9095-765A4667C6D5%40swbell.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C3B96C03-E83F-4BE1-8E19-A98974218841%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:
Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur
True, but this changes the displayed layout of the selected mailbox. This does not resolve the issue. - Brad - On Nov 30, 2020, at 09:44, John Panarese wrote: You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column layout. I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur. > On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > I am also experiencing this issue. > This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list. > I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to > make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful > in modifying this behavior. > > This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur. > > - Brad - > > > On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick wrote: > > Hi all, > > So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with > Xcode and my iPhone (it didn’t help). > > At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail. > Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” > prior to reading the sender. > > I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering > if there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases? > > I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything. > > Thanks for any help. > Jeff > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C1D8FDE5-D28D-4A0B-A93A-B9124E6B738E%40berwick.name. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB201D33-9F75-4BF1-9095-765A4667C6D5%40swbell.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C3B96C03-E83F-4BE1-8E19-A98974218841%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur
You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column layout. I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur. > On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > I am also experiencing this issue. > This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list. > I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to > make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful > in modifying this behavior. > > This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur. > > - Brad - > > > On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick wrote: > > Hi all, > > So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with > Xcode and my iPhone (it didn’t help). > > At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail. > Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” > prior to reading the sender. > > I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering > if there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases? > > I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything. > > Thanks for any help. > Jeff > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C1D8FDE5-D28D-4A0B-A93A-B9124E6B738E%40berwick.name. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB201D33-9F75-4BF1-9095-765A4667C6D5%40swbell.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C3B96C03-E83F-4BE1-8E19-A98974218841%40gmail.com.
Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur
I am also experiencing this issue. This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list. I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful in modifying this behavior. This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur. - Brad - On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick wrote: Hi all, So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with Xcode and my iPhone (it didn’t help). At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail. Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” prior to reading the sender. I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering if there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases? I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything. Thanks for any help. Jeff -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C1D8FDE5-D28D-4A0B-A93A-B9124E6B738E%40berwick.name. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB201D33-9F75-4BF1-9095-765A4667C6D5%40swbell.net.
