Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-27 Thread Eric Oyen 
yes, it is, isn't it. makes me wonder if the whole mac keeper / mac defender 
thing was nothing more than 2 scare ware vendors trying to outdo the other. In 
either case, any domains associated with either outfit are now safely ensconced 
in my firewall. In the case of Mac defender, they are apparently associated 
with the same company that brings you the late night commercials from 
"MaxMysppeed.com" or "Cleanmypc.com" or some 800 or so others under the bit 
defender label. It took a little doing and a small script written in bash shell 
to accomplish this. :)

-eric

On Oct 26, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Portia Scott wrote:

> Funnily enough, they are asking people to report scare adds, according
> to various articles on the internet. Or, at least, Chrontech is.
> Ziobits old popup adds basically used a malware called Mac Defender to
> trash MacKeeper, according to various internet articles. Interesting
> they are settling this lawsuit.
> 
> Portia.
> 
> On 10/25/15, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> Is this the same people that make the Keeper app for iPhone? If it is I need
>> to change some things quickly!! Please let me know.
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>> UT Chattanooga
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, Michael Marshall 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> are they the fools who make those stupid popups that come up on some sites
>>> and say stuff like
>>> Your mac is infected with spyware?
>>> how stupid do they think we are?
 On 24 Oct 2015, at 7:03 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
 
 just added them to my firewall. this way, I can't get to them and they
 can't get to me. :)
 
 btw, I use Waterroof as my firewall interface on my OS X Lion system. Its
 a little tricky getting used to at first, but with a little time and some
 reading, it becomes the app of choice for us.
 
 -eric
 
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
> Pity they didn’t get a proper smackdown in your courts for that day’s
> work.
> 
> I block Zeobit, Krontek and MacKeeper domains at the border.  I consider
> that lot indistinguishable from malware purveyors.  This is truly
> unfortunate as they clearly aren’t actually true malware but have simply
> chosen an unethical business practice to scare people out of their
> money
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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-27 Thread Portia Scott 
Hi Eric,

>From what I understand, Mac Defender was a scareware vender trying to
scare people away from Mackeeper. But anyways, take care.

Portia.

On 10/26/15, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> yes, it is, isn't it. makes me wonder if the whole mac keeper / mac defender
> thing was nothing more than 2 scare ware vendors trying to outdo the other.
> In either case, any domains associated with either outfit are now safely
> ensconced in my firewall. In the case of Mac defender, they are apparently
> associated with the same company that brings you the late night commercials
> from "MaxMysppeed.com" or "Cleanmypc.com" or some 800 or so others under the
> bit defender label. It took a little doing and a small script written in
> bash shell to accomplish this. :)
>
> -eric
>
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Portia Scott wrote:
>
>> Funnily enough, they are asking people to report scare adds, according
>> to various articles on the internet. Or, at least, Chrontech is.
>> Ziobits old popup adds basically used a malware called Mac Defender to
>> trash MacKeeper, according to various internet articles. Interesting
>> they are settling this lawsuit.
>>
>> Portia.
>>
>> On 10/25/15, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> Is this the same people that make the Keeper app for iPhone? If it is I
>>> need
>>> to change some things quickly!! Please let me know.
>>> Nancy
>>>
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>>> UT Chattanooga
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling
>>> errors.
>>>
 On Oct 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, Michael Marshall
 
 wrote:

 are they the fools who make those stupid popups that come up on some
 sites
 and say stuff like
 Your mac is infected with spyware?
 how stupid do they think we are?
> On 24 Oct 2015, at 7:03 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>
> just added them to my firewall. this way, I can't get to them and they
> can't get to me. :)
>
> btw, I use Waterroof as my firewall interface on my OS X Lion system.
> Its
> a little tricky getting used to at first, but with a little time and
> some
> reading, it becomes the app of choice for us.
>
> -eric
>
>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>>
>> Pity they didn’t get a proper smackdown in your courts for that day’s
>> work.
>>
>> I block Zeobit, Krontek and MacKeeper domains at the border.  I
>> consider
>> that lot indistinguishable from malware purveyors.  This is truly
>> unfortunate as they clearly aren’t actually true malware but have
>> simply
>> chosen an unethical business practice to scare people out of their
>> money
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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-26 Thread Portia Scott 
Funnily enough, they are asking people to report scare adds, according
to various articles on the internet. Or, at least, Chrontech is.
Ziobits old popup adds basically used a malware called Mac Defender to
trash MacKeeper, according to various internet articles. Interesting
they are settling this lawsuit.

Portia.

On 10/25/15, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> Is this the same people that make the Keeper app for iPhone? If it is I need
> to change some things quickly!! Please let me know.
> Nancy
>
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>
>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, Michael Marshall 
>> wrote:
>>
>> are they the fools who make those stupid popups that come up on some sites
>> and say stuff like
>> Your mac is infected with spyware?
>> how stupid do they think we are?
>>> On 24 Oct 2015, at 7:03 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>>
>>> just added them to my firewall. this way, I can't get to them and they
>>> can't get to me. :)
>>>
>>> btw, I use Waterroof as my firewall interface on my OS X Lion system. Its
>>> a little tricky getting used to at first, but with a little time and some
>>> reading, it becomes the app of choice for us.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>>
 On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

 Pity they didn’t get a proper smackdown in your courts for that day’s
 work.

 I block Zeobit, Krontek and MacKeeper domains at the border.  I consider
 that lot indistinguishable from malware purveyors.  This is truly
 unfortunate as they clearly aren’t actually true malware but have simply
 chosen an unethical business practice to scare people out of their
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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-25 Thread Nancy Badger 
Is this the same people that make the Keeper app for iPhone? If it is I need to 
change some things quickly!! Please let me know.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Oct 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> are they the fools who make those stupid popups that come up on some sites 
> and say stuff like
> Your mac is infected with spyware?
> how stupid do they think we are?
>> On 24 Oct 2015, at 7:03 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> just added them to my firewall. this way, I can't get to them and they can't 
>> get to me. :)
>> 
>> btw, I use Waterroof as my firewall interface on my OS X Lion system. Its a 
>> little tricky getting used to at first, but with a little time and some 
>> reading, it becomes the app of choice for us.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pity they didn’t get a proper smackdown in your courts for that day’s work.
>>> 
>>> I block Zeobit, Krontek and MacKeeper domains at the border.  I consider 
>>> that lot indistinguishable from malware purveyors.  This is truly 
>>> unfortunate as they clearly aren’t actually true malware but have simply 
>>> chosen an unethical business practice to scare people out of their money
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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-24 Thread Nicolai Svendsen 
Hi!

I have had them tell me that snake32.exe was a virus and needed to be removed 
from my computer before. Obviously, this is funny, because .exe is a Windows 
file association. Of course, people who've never looked at file extensions 
before probably don't know that, so it's easy enough to believe the scare 
tactics. After all, my father almost believed it.

I actually bought MacKeeper once, and haven't used it since. I didn't even 
remember I'd bought it way back until I did some digging.

I haven't seen their silly popups ever since I prevented Safari from showing 
them and only enabling them when required, and made sure my Mac had no malware. 
I can't say I'm surprised by the class action suit.

Nicolai
> On Oct 24, 2015, at 6:25 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> are they the fools who make those stupid popups that come up on some sites 
> and say stuff like
> Your mac is infected with spyware?
> how stupid do they think we are?
>> On 24 Oct 2015, at 7:03 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> just added them to my firewall. this way, I can't get to them and they can't 
>> get to me. :)
>> 
>> btw, I use Waterroof as my firewall interface on my OS X Lion system. Its a 
>> little tricky getting used to at first, but with a little time and some 
>> reading, it becomes the app of choice for us.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Pity they didn’t get a proper smackdown in your courts for that day’s work.
>>> 
>>> I block Zeobit, Krontek and MacKeeper domains at the border.  I consider 
>>> that lot indistinguishable from malware purveyors.  This is truly 
>>> unfortunate as they clearly aren’t actually true malware but have simply 
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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu 
Pity they didn’t get a proper smackdown in your courts for that day’s work.

I block Zeobit, Krontek and MacKeeper domains at the border.  I consider that 
lot indistinguishable from malware purveyors.  This is truly unfortunate as 
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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu 
That’s them.  Or one of their many unreliable partners who get serious 
commission for flogging that crap.

Here’s a rundown from The Safe Mac (who sadly have just been picked up by 
MalwareBytes):
http://www.thesafemac.com/ongoing-mackeeper-fraud/

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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-24 Thread Michael Marshall 
i hated those popups, will they stop now do you think?
> On 24 Oct 2015, at 10:12 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> That’s them.  Or one of their many unreliable partners who get serious 
> commission for flogging that crap.
> 
> Here’s a rundown from The Safe Mac (who sadly have just been picked up by 
> MalwareBytes):
> http://www.thesafemac.com/ongoing-mackeeper-fraud/
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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-24 Thread Eric Oyen 
just added them to my firewall. this way, I can't get to them and they can't 
get to me. :)

btw, I use Waterroof as my firewall interface on my OS X Lion system. Its a 
little tricky getting used to at first, but with a little time and some 
reading, it becomes the app of choice for us.

-eric

On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

> Pity they didn’t get a proper smackdown in your courts for that day’s work.
> 
> I block Zeobit, Krontek and MacKeeper domains at the border.  I consider that 
> lot indistinguishable from malware purveyors.  This is truly unfortunate as 
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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-24 Thread Michael Marshall 
are they the fools who make those stupid popups that come up on some sites and 
say stuff like
Your mac is infected with spyware?
how stupid do they think we are?
> On 24 Oct 2015, at 7:03 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> just added them to my firewall. this way, I can't get to them and they can't 
> get to me. :)
> 
> btw, I use Waterroof as my firewall interface on my OS X Lion system. Its a 
> little tricky getting used to at first, but with a little time and some 
> reading, it becomes the app of choice for us.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Pity they didn’t get a proper smackdown in your courts for that day’s work.
>> 
>> I block Zeobit, Krontek and MacKeeper domains at the border.  I consider 
>> that lot indistinguishable from malware purveyors.  This is truly 
>> unfortunate as they clearly aren’t actually true malware but have simply 
>> chosen an unethical business practice to scare people out of their money
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Re: MacKeeper class action suit garners refunds

2015-10-23 Thread Eric Oyen 
and here I have been trumpeting all over social media that something was amiss 
with this company (and their product). I believe I used the term "scare ware"

ah well, the best kind of security is an informed and knowledgable user.

-eric

On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:15 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Missed this in the news somewhere. Apparently the owners of MacKeeper have 
> settled a class action suit and are close to getting approval for their 
> $1.25M settlement fund. If you bought it you might be eligible. Details are 
> here:
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> http://www.macworld.com/article/2996814/security/mackeeper-buyers-ask-for-refunds-in-droves-following-lawsuit.html
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> CB
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