tts bug with some voices Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
Hi listers, Do you all remember the tts bug from some previous versions of osx and ios. The one that misspronaunced emailaddresses and url's. Well those are fixed in ml for the english or french voices. Badly to see that this bug is still around with the dutch voices, are there others that have the very annoying bug in an other language. I'm trying to make a list and see how we can motivate apple to fix this one. Sadly, this is reported more then a couple times, but yeah. kr -Peter On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 03:25:57PM -0500, BBS wrote: Hi Nick. It’s true that the Nuance voices still say capital before the capital letter. It also says that on the iPhone. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 28, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: With the exception of Alex, doesn't it still say the word capital before each letter even with beeps turned on? Whether pitch change or beeps I don't mind, I just don't like it saying capital each time as that three syllable word before each one syllable letter is horribly verbose and slow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
With the exception of Alex, doesn't it still say the word capital before each letter even with beeps turned on? Whether pitch change or beeps I don't mind, I just don't like it saying capital each time as that three syllable word before each one syllable letter is horribly verbose and slow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
Hi Nick. It’s true that the Nuance voices still say capital before the capital letter. It also says that on the iPhone. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 28, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: With the exception of Alex, doesn't it still say the word capital before each letter even with beeps turned on? Whether pitch change or beeps I don't mind, I just don't like it saying capital each time as that three syllable word before each one syllable letter is horribly verbose and slow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
Hello, I don’t believe there are any new Australian voices. Just Lee Karen. AS far as the capitol goes, Oliver (the new UK voice), reads capitol T, the same as Compact Samantha. Oddly enough, Alex didn’t indicate capitol or lower-case. I wonder if that is a setting I have created? Traci On Oct 26, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Two questions: 1. Are there any new Australian English voices? 2. Do the new voices read out capital letters properly, as does Alex, or do they announce both capital and change pitch? On 27/10/2013, at 3:59 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, if you go into Voiceover’s speech settings and choose customize from the default voice popup, or from the same popup in System Preferences Speech and Dictation Speech tab, you’ll find them. As usual, check the ones you want, they will download, and there you go. Off the top of my head, the new voices are kate, Ava, Allison, Oliver, Susan, and an India one whose name I don’t remember. My personal favorite is Ava, but they are all pretty good. Mario, your messages are reaching the list. I’m not sure what tutorial you mean, though. On Oct 26, 2013, at 12:23 PM, mario navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: hi guys, sorry for making dynamic reading, but I do not know if my messages are reaching the group. please tell me. read below. hi folks. for those who have already upgraded to the Mavericks: someone can tell me if the manual VoiceOver Getting Started is now available for the mavericks? would be nice to take some questions. I think it's still a bit early but ... thanks. cheers. Em 26/10/2013 16:58, Maggie's Dobermail escreveu: Well, for what it’s worth, I don’t think they are really “new”, just improved a bit. For example, you don’t get any new choices to my knowledge other then the usual Samantha, Daniel, etc.. I know somebody will correct me if this is off base.. Cait On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Wait a minute, there are new vo voices? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my iMac On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: new -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
HI Traci, By default, Alex should just change pitch when reading a capital letter but should not say the word capital. This makes reading all caps much easier as you don't get all the unnecessary extra words. The other voices, however, will say capital and change pitch as well, which is unnecessarily verbose given that the pitch change is sufficient. Cheers, Nic On 28/10/2013, at 6:34 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I don’t believe there are any new Australian voices. Just Lee Karen. AS far as the capitol goes, Oliver (the new UK voice), reads capitol T, the same as Compact Samantha. Oddly enough, Alex didn’t indicate capitol or lower-case. I wonder if that is a setting I have created? Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
Nick, what I’ve done for all the voices, including Alex and the Vocalizer Expressive voices, instead of having it change pitch for capital letters, I have it beep for capital letters. I prefer this behavior because the pitch changes are freaky. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 27, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: HI Traci, By default, Alex should just change pitch when reading a capital letter but should not say the word capital. This makes reading all caps much easier as you don't get all the unnecessary extra words. The other voices, however, will say capital and change pitch as well, which is unnecessarily verbose given that the pitch change is sufficient. Cheers, Nic On 28/10/2013, at 6:34 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I don’t believe there are any new Australian voices. Just Lee Karen. AS far as the capitol goes, Oliver (the new UK voice), reads capitol T, the same as Compact Samantha. Oddly enough, Alex didn’t indicate capitol or lower-case. I wonder if that is a setting I have created? Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
No, I don’t think there are new Australian voices. No, that capital letter oddity is still present, at least in Ava. On Oct 26, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Two questions: 1. Are there any new Australian English voices? 2. Do the new voices read out capital letters properly, as does Alex, or do they announce both capital and change pitch? On 27/10/2013, at 3:59 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, if you go into Voiceover’s speech settings and choose customize from the default voice popup, or from the same popup in System Preferences Speech and Dictation Speech tab, you’ll find them. As usual, check the ones you want, they will download, and there you go. Off the top of my head, the new voices are kate, Ava, Allison, Oliver, Susan, and an India one whose name I don’t remember. My personal favorite is Ava, but they are all pretty good. Mario, your messages are reaching the list. I’m not sure what tutorial you mean, though. On Oct 26, 2013, at 12:23 PM, mario navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: hi guys, sorry for making dynamic reading, but I do not know if my messages are reaching the group. please tell me. read below. hi folks. for those who have already upgraded to the Mavericks: someone can tell me if the manual VoiceOver Getting Started is now available for the mavericks? would be nice to take some questions. I think it's still a bit early but ... thanks. cheers. Em 26/10/2013 16:58, Maggie's Dobermail escreveu: Well, for what it’s worth, I don’t think they are really “new”, just improved a bit. For example, you don’t get any new choices to my knowledge other then the usual Samantha, Daniel, etc.. I know somebody will correct me if this is off base.. Cait On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Wait a minute, there are new vo voices? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my iMac On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: new -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
Hi Nick. No, there aren’t any new Australian voices, but Karen sounds new and improved. More human than she ever was. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 26, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Two questions: 1. Are there any new Australian English voices? 2. Do the new voices read out capital letters properly, as does Alex, or do they announce both capital and change pitch? On 27/10/2013, at 3:59 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, if you go into Voiceover’s speech settings and choose customize from the default voice popup, or from the same popup in System Preferences Speech and Dictation Speech tab, you’ll find them. As usual, check the ones you want, they will download, and there you go. Off the top of my head, the new voices are kate, Ava, Allison, Oliver, Susan, and an India one whose name I don’t remember. My personal favorite is Ava, but they are all pretty good. Mario, your messages are reaching the list. I’m not sure what tutorial you mean, though. On Oct 26, 2013, at 12:23 PM, mario navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: hi guys, sorry for making dynamic reading, but I do not know if my messages are reaching the group. please tell me. read below. hi folks. for those who have already upgraded to the Mavericks: someone can tell me if the manual VoiceOver Getting Started is now available for the mavericks? would be nice to take some questions. I think it's still a bit early but ... thanks. cheers. Em 26/10/2013 16:58, Maggie's Dobermail escreveu: Well, for what it’s worth, I don’t think they are really “new”, just improved a bit. For example, you don’t get any new choices to my knowledge other then the usual Samantha, Daniel, etc.. I know somebody will correct me if this is off base.. Cait On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Wait a minute, there are new vo voices? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my iMac On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: new -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
