Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-10 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi Annie,
I am planning to try fine reader soon, i have a scanjet5590 and I know hp had 
drivers for at least snow leopard so I am hopeful it will work with finereader 
natively. I hope that it also works with its sheetfeeder because my scanner can 
natively scan 50 pages through its sheetfeeder and it automatically scans both 
sides of the page. I really hope that we will see the pro 10 version of 
finereader for the mac soon.
Greetings, Anouk,
On Sep 7, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi Paul.
 
 Well I scan two pages at a time on my old epson gt15000. I also use vuescan 
 for the scanning, because it is rather difficult in fine reader express.
 
 I experience that fine reader express has its lacks in e.g. if you scan 
 double pages, sometimes it works, but fine reader express will not recognize 
 them as 2 pages, to me it is a problem, because I like that there are a new 
 page when there are a new page in the text. And then I feel columns that's 
 not always correct.
 
 The OCR is ok, but there are a little more words that can not be read than in 
 the professional version, but again it is also another price.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 7, 2011 kl. 1:36 PM skrev Paul Erkens:
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 In what respect are you not satisfied with fine reader express? You scan 
 many books, so where is express reader lacking functionality that you have 
 in windows fine reader pro?
 Paul.a
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi Paul.
 
 In my opinion abbyy fine reader express can be used. But I have for many 
 years been using fine reader professional in windows. Compared to that 
 product the express edition is a little frustrating. But of course you can 
 use the program, with ok results. It depends on what your are scanning. I 
 am scanning really many books. I am not satisfied with the results i get 
 with fine reader express.
 
 But of course the fine reader express is a good price.
 I hope in the future that we will really get a scanning program, that 
 really works great.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 11:43 AM skrev Paul Erkens:
 
 Hi Annie,
 Are you saying that fine reader express is not a sufficient scanning and 
 OCR solution? Interested to hear your thoughts on that, as I'm about to 
 buy it. Any info or experience appreciated.
 Paul.
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be 
 great if they could add support for other languages, but they do not 
 answer that question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my 
 opinion docuscan is great but rather slow.
 
 vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I 
 will be the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning 
 solution, hopefully that will be possible in the future. I have the 
 impression that the developer of vuescan is working hard on that part.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you 
 use any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember 
 that this list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register 
 it for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the 
 Apple version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works 
 well with VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for 
 all kinds of scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned 
 text to RTF, TXT, create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated 
 Braille file, and turn scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the 
 HoverCam digital camera that can be purchased along with the software 
 from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running 
 Lion if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed 
 documents to send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have 
 its own utility or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant 
 upon manufacturer's own drivers/software (which, from past experience 
 on Windows, is very hit and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using 
 OCR to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the 
 document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi Anne,
Thanks a lot for this reminder. I too am an international user and would really 
appreciate it if people would point out wether or not a certain scanning/ocr 
solution is multilingual or just English.
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,
On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion if 
 this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to send by 
 email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility or app for 
 working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's own 
 drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit and 
 miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR to 
 get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi all,
I'm wondering in this regard, which scanner has proven to be a good device with 
accessible and non intrucive drivers. If you listers own a scanner, and you can 
work well with things like abbey fine reader, with image capture and so on, 
without being disturbed by an inaccessible  driver window popping up while you 
work in those programs, then please share the brand and type of scanner with me 
and others. I now have an old cannon lide 25 scanner, but its latest drivers 
and add-on software, the older ones I have never seen, are not really 
accessible. I would like to buy a usb powered one, but if another choice is 
better, of course I'm also open to that. Any advice is much appreciated.

On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:

 Hi Anne,
 Thanks a lot for this reminder. I too am an international user and would 
 really appreciate it if people would point out wether or not a certain 
 scanning/ocr solution is multilingual or just English.
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion if 
 this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to send by 
 email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility or app for 
 working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's own 
 drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit and 
 miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Paul.

In my opinion abbyy fine reader express can be used. But I have for many years 
been using fine reader professional in windows. Compared to that product the 
express edition is a little frustrating. But of course you can use the program, 
with ok results. It depends on what your are scanning. I am scanning really 
many books. I am not satisfied with the results i get with fine reader express.

But of course the fine reader express is a good price.
I hope in the future that we will really get a scanning program, that really 
works great.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 11:43 AM skrev Paul Erkens:

 Hi Annie,
 Are you saying that fine reader express is not a sufficient scanning and OCR 
 solution? Interested to hear your thoughts on that, as I'm about to buy it. 
 Any info or experience appreciated.
 Paul.
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be great 
 if they could add support for other languages, but they do not answer that 
 question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my opinion docuscan is 
 great but rather slow.
 
 vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I will 
 be the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning solution, 
 hopefully that will be possible in the future. I have the impression that 
 the developer of vuescan is working hard on that part.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero 
 Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
 if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
 send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
 or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
 own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit 
 and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Paul,

I have a Cannon Lide 110 USB-powered portable scanner which you should be able 
to find for around €70. I use it with VueScan to get the images, which are then 
handed to ABBYY FineReader Express. I scan books this way because I find it 
convenient to scan a whole book into one file, and then have FineReader perform 
the OCR.

I use VueScan to create a TIFF file containing all the images of double pages, 
and I have all TIFF files set to open with ABBYY FineReader by default.

The results I get depend very much on how well I flatten out the book for 
scanning.

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:18, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm wondering in this regard, which scanner has proven to be a good device 
 with accessible and non intrucive drivers. If you listers own a scanner, and 
 you can work well with things like abbey fine reader, with image capture and 
 so on, without being disturbed by an inaccessible  driver window popping up 
 while you work in those programs, then please share the brand and type of 
 scanner with me and others. I now have an old cannon lide 25 scanner, but its 
 latest drivers and add-on software, the older ones I have never seen, are not 
 really accessible. I would like to buy a usb powered one, but if another 
 choice is better, of course I'm also open to that. Any advice is much 
 appreciated.
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 Thanks a lot for this reminder. I too am an international user and would 
 really appreciate it if people would point out wether or not a certain 
 scanning/ocr solution is multilingual or just English.
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero 
 Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
 if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
 send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
 or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
 own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit 
 and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Annie,

In what respect are you not satisfied with fine reader express? You scan many 
books, so where is express reader lacking functionality that you have in 
windows fine reader pro?
Paul.a
On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi Paul.
 
 In my opinion abbyy fine reader express can be used. But I have for many 
 years been using fine reader professional in windows. Compared to that 
 product the express edition is a little frustrating. But of course you can 
 use the program, with ok results. It depends on what your are scanning. I am 
 scanning really many books. I am not satisfied with the results i get with 
 fine reader express.
 
 But of course the fine reader express is a good price.
 I hope in the future that we will really get a scanning program, that really 
 works great.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 11:43 AM skrev Paul Erkens:
 
 Hi Annie,
 Are you saying that fine reader express is not a sufficient scanning and OCR 
 solution? Interested to hear your thoughts on that, as I'm about to buy it. 
 Any info or experience appreciated.
 Paul.
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be 
 great if they could add support for other languages, but they do not answer 
 that question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my opinion 
 docuscan is great but rather slow.
 
 vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I 
 will be the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning solution, 
 hopefully that will be possible in the future. I have the impression that 
 the developer of vuescan is working hard on that part.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you 
 use any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that 
 this list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register 
 it for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the 
 Apple version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works 
 well with VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all 
 kinds of scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to 
 RTF, TXT, create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, 
 and turn scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the 
 HoverCam digital camera that can be purchased along with the software 
 from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
 if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
 send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
 or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
 own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit 
 and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Paul.

 Well I scan two pages at a time on my old epson gt15000. I also use vuescan 
for the scanning, because it is rather difficult in fine reader express.

I experience that fine reader express has its lacks in e.g. if you scan double 
pages, sometimes it works, but fine reader express will not recognize them as 2 
pages, to me it is a problem, because I like that there are a new page when 
there are a new page in the text. And then I feel columns that's not always 
correct.

The OCR is ok, but there are a little more words that can not be read than in 
the professional version, but again it is also another price.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 7, 2011 kl. 1:36 PM skrev Paul Erkens:

 Hi Annie,
 
 In what respect are you not satisfied with fine reader express? You scan many 
 books, so where is express reader lacking functionality that you have in 
 windows fine reader pro?
 Paul.a
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi Paul.
 
 In my opinion abbyy fine reader express can be used. But I have for many 
 years been using fine reader professional in windows. Compared to that 
 product the express edition is a little frustrating. But of course you can 
 use the program, with ok results. It depends on what your are scanning. I am 
 scanning really many books. I am not satisfied with the results i get with 
 fine reader express.
 
 But of course the fine reader express is a good price.
 I hope in the future that we will really get a scanning program, that really 
 works great.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 11:43 AM skrev Paul Erkens:
 
 Hi Annie,
 Are you saying that fine reader express is not a sufficient scanning and 
 OCR solution? Interested to hear your thoughts on that, as I'm about to buy 
 it. Any info or experience appreciated.
 Paul.
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be 
 great if they could add support for other languages, but they do not 
 answer that question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my opinion 
 docuscan is great but rather slow.
 
 vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I 
 will be the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning 
 solution, hopefully that will be possible in the future. I have the 
 impression that the developer of vuescan is working hard on that part.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you 
 use any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember 
 that this list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register 
 it for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the 
 Apple version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works 
 well with VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for 
 all kinds of scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned 
 text to RTF, TXT, create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated 
 Braille file, and turn scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the 
 HoverCam digital camera that can be purchased along with the software 
 from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
 if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
 send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
 or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
 own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very 
 hit and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using 
 OCR to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the 
 document?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use any 
other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this list is 
international!

Cheers,

Anne


On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:

 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan Plus. 
  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it for a 7 
 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple version and 
 the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with VoiceOver, is 
 simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of scanning, 
 recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, create MP3 
 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn scaned text 
 into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion if 
 this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to send by 
 email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility or app for 
 working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's own 
 drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit and 
 miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR to 
 get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-06 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be great if 
they could add support for other languages, but they do not answer that 
question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my opinion docuscan is 
great but rather slow.

vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I will be 
the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning solution, hopefully 
that will be possible in the future. I have the impression that the developer 
of vuescan is working hard on that part.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:

 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion if 
 this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to send by 
 email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility or app for 
 working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's own 
 drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit and 
 miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR to 
 get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-06 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Annie,
Are you saying that fine reader express is not a sufficient scanning and OCR 
solution? Interested to hear your thoughts on that, as I'm about to buy it. Any 
info or experience appreciated.
Paul.
On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be great 
 if they could add support for other languages, but they do not answer that 
 question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my opinion docuscan is 
 great but rather slow.
 
 vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I will 
 be the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning solution, 
 hopefully that will be possible in the future. I have the impression that the 
 developer of vuescan is working hard on that part.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion if 
 this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to send by 
 email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility or app for 
 working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's own 
 drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit and 
 miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-06 Thread Simon Cavendish
Dear Paul,

I've been using Abbyy FineReaderExpress for a few years in multilingual 
environment, and it is a very good piece of OCR software. I don't use it to 
scan my multilingual documents as my scanner is 11 years' old and thus 
incompatible with FineReaderExpress. But I use it for recognition the images I 
take with Vuescan, and it does a good job indeed. The one great feature of 
FineReader is its ability to recgonise up to 3 languages in one document, and 
its ability to cope with orientation. The one problem I have with it when 
scanning text arranged in columns.

Hope this helps.

With best wishes

Simon
On 6 Sep 2011, at 10:43, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Hi Annie,
 Are you saying that fine reader express is not a sufficient scanning and OCR 
 solution? Interested to hear your thoughts on that, as I'm about to buy it. 
 Any info or experience appreciated.
 Paul.
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be great 
 if they could add support for other languages, but they do not answer that 
 question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my opinion docuscan is 
 great but rather slow.
 
 vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I will 
 be the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning solution, 
 hopefully that will be possible in the future. I have the impression that 
 the developer of vuescan is working hard on that part.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero 
 Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
 if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
 send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
 or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
 own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit 
 and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-06 Thread David Tanner
But, it shouldn't mean that those who use English cannot recommend good 
products just because they only support English.  Remember, there are 
probably a lot more folks on this list that use English than all other 
languages combined.


Thanks for your time and consideration!


- Original Message - 
From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: Scanners and OCR


Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
list is international!


Cheers,

Anne


On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:

Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
scaned text into a Daisy book.


It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero 
Tech.




- Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
mark.a.col...@googlemail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
Subject: Scanners and OCR


Hello all,

Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit 
and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).


Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?


Cheers,

Mark

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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-06 Thread Johnny Angel!
Hi!

Which fast scanners work on the MacBook Pro?

Thanks,

Johnny
On Sep 5, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:

 hi there,
 
 depends on what sort of document and how often you using it? the
 ocation can mean ones a week or ones a month or ones in few months.
 
 i personally suggest you to use ABBY Reader, its accessible,
 affordable, and one of the few greatest scanning software i come
 across cormertially.
 
 however, if your ocation is ones in a few months, you might want to
 try with Mac Image Capture before you invest extra money on ABBY
 Reader.
 
 although by saying so, i know some scanners manifecture e.g. Epson
 does come with ABBY Reader as part of their software driver itself.
 
 good luck
 
 
 
 Joanne
 
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 mac has image capture
 just do a spotlight search for it
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-05 Thread james Walton
yes
mac has image capture
just do a spotlight search for it

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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-05 Thread Joanne Chua
hi there,

depends on what sort of document and how often you using it? the
ocation can mean ones a week or ones a month or ones in few months.

i personally suggest you to use ABBY Reader, its accessible,
affordable, and one of the few greatest scanning software i come
across cormertially.

however, if your ocation is ones in a few months, you might want to
try with Mac Image Capture before you invest extra money on ABBY
Reader.

although by saying so, i know some scanners manifecture e.g. Epson
does come with ABBY Reader as part of their software driver itself.

good luck



Joanne

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 mac has image capture
 just do a spotlight search for it

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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-05 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, for scan to email most scanner drivers are adequate.  Simply try to avoid 
using an all in one printer scanner and you will have a button on the front 
that scans to a file and attaches it to an email.

The situation regarding scan to OCR using your mac as a reading machine is a 
bit unfortunate.  There is the eyepal which is very nice in it's way despite 
some pitfalls, but is overpriced even after they nocked the price down by about 
800 bucks.

Then there is docuscan for about $400 which is OK except that it requires a 
cloud and an internet connection to be getting on with.  It would be a steel at 
400 bucks if the software did the OCr right onboard.

Then there are abby finereader and readiris.  Some people love these solutions. 
 I am not one of them.  They are heavily dependent on accessible scanner 
software from the manufacturer which as you rightly observed is hit an miss.  
They require a daisy chain of 2 to 4 programs for the scan and read process 
depending on the combination you choose.  And the results of my tests on abby 
fine reader with the cannon lide90 were OK generally speaking but much slower 
than kurzweil 1000 under windows and not nearly as accurate.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion if 
 this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to send by 
 email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility or app for 
 working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's own 
 drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit and 
 miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR to 
 get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-05 Thread David Tanner
Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
scaned text into a Daisy book.


It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero Tech.




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From: Mark Colman mark.a.col...@googlemail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
Subject: Scanners and OCR


Hello all,

Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion if 
this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to send by 
email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility or app for 
working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's own 
drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit and 
miss as far as accessibility is concerned).


Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR to 
get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?


Cheers,

Mark

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RE: Scanners with OCR for the iPhone

2011-04-07 Thread Bejarano, Rafael P.
Thanks for your input. I've read several reviews and heard from others on this 
list, who also have found that saytext doesn't work very well.

Rafael Bejarano

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
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Subject: Re: Scanners with OCR for the iPhone

hi

i used saytext on iphone 3gs.  it does not work.

best
On 6 Apr 2011, at 19:52, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

 Hello all,

 I've been reading a bit about two scanner/OCR apps for the iPhone: saytext 
 and prizmo. Neither sounds sufficiently well developed to meet the needs of 
 totally blind individuals at this time, but perhaps I'm underestimating their 
 utility. Has anyone on this list tried either product, and if so, how useful 
 did you find it?

 Cordially,
 Rafael Bejarano

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Re: Scanners with OCR for the iPhone

2011-04-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Rafael,

I'm totally blind and have used both SayText and Prizmo with some success.

SayText seems to work best for reading envelopes, and Prizmo for reading a page 
of a book or a sheet of A4 or the equivalent.

They both need good lighting, so I use Light Detector to gauge the level of 
light.

With both apps, you place the iPhone with its camera in the centre of the 
document, then raise it. With SayText, the autofocus mechanism tells you when 
to keep still and wait for it to take the picture.

With Prizmo, the phone vibrates, then you say Take Picture and it does just 
that. With Prizmo, you need to have a headset connected as it switches to the 
phone speaker rather than the normal speaker as soon as the picture has been 
taken.

Both apps require a bit of practice before you can get decent results.

Cheers,

Anne

On 6 Apr 2011, at 20:52, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I've been reading a bit about two scanner/OCR apps for the iPhone: saytext 
 and prizmo. Neither sounds sufficiently well developed to meet the needs of 
 totally blind individuals at this time, but perhaps I'm underestimating their 
 utility. Has anyone on this list tried either product, and if so, how useful 
 did you find it?
 
 Cordially,
 Rafael Bejarano
 
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Re: Scanners with OCR for the iPhone

2011-04-06 Thread Bejarano, Rafael P.
Hi Anne,

It sounds as though both apps still need a bit of work, before they can replace 
the traditional flat-bed scanner. I don't yet own an iPhone, although I was 
considering buying one provided one or both of the aforementioned scanner/OCR 
apps was truly useful. I'll probably wait a while longer, given the current 
state of these apps. I wish we had a scanning app for the iPhone as good as the 
Kurzweil app being sold by the National Federation of the Blind, here in the 
U.S.

Anyway, thanks for your input.

Cordially,
Rafael
On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Hello Rafael,
 
 I'm totally blind and have used both SayText and Prizmo with some success.
 
 SayText seems to work best for reading envelopes, and Prizmo for reading a 
 page of a book or a sheet of A4 or the equivalent.
 
 They both need good lighting, so I use Light Detector to gauge the level of 
 light.
 
 With both apps, you place the iPhone with its camera in the centre of the 
 document, then raise it. With SayText, the autofocus mechanism tells you when 
 to keep still and wait for it to take the picture.
 
 With Prizmo, the phone vibrates, then you say Take Picture and it does just 
 that. With Prizmo, you need to have a headset connected as it switches to the 
 phone speaker rather than the normal speaker as soon as the picture has been 
 taken.
 
 Both apps require a bit of practice before you can get decent results.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 On 6 Apr 2011, at 20:52, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I've been reading a bit about two scanner/OCR apps for the iPhone: saytext 
 and prizmo. Neither sounds sufficiently well developed to meet the needs of 
 totally blind individuals at this time, but perhaps I'm underestimating 
 their utility. Has anyone on this list tried either product, and if so, how 
 useful did you find it?
 
 Cordially,
 Rafael Bejarano
 
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Re: Scanners with OCR for the iPhone

2011-04-06 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Rumor has it that they're working on a version of KNFB reader for the Iphone.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
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On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

 Hi Anne,
 
 It sounds as though both apps still need a bit of work, before they can 
 replace the traditional flat-bed scanner. I don't yet own an iPhone, although 
 I was considering buying one provided one or both of the aforementioned 
 scanner/OCR apps was truly useful. I'll probably wait a while longer, given 
 the current state of these apps. I wish we had a scanning app for the iPhone 
 as good as the Kurzweil app being sold by the National Federation of the 
 Blind, here in the U.S.
 
 Anyway, thanks for your input.
 
 Cordially,
 Rafael
 On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Rafael,
 
 I'm totally blind and have used both SayText and Prizmo with some success.
 
 SayText seems to work best for reading envelopes, and Prizmo for reading a 
 page of a book or a sheet of A4 or the equivalent.
 
 They both need good lighting, so I use Light Detector to gauge the level of 
 light.
 
 With both apps, you place the iPhone with its camera in the centre of the 
 document, then raise it. With SayText, the autofocus mechanism tells you 
 when to keep still and wait for it to take the picture.
 
 With Prizmo, the phone vibrates, then you say Take Picture and it does 
 just that. With Prizmo, you need to have a headset connected as it switches 
 to the phone speaker rather than the normal speaker as soon as the picture 
 has been taken.
 
 Both apps require a bit of practice before you can get decent results.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 On 6 Apr 2011, at 20:52, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I've been reading a bit about two scanner/OCR apps for the iPhone: saytext 
 and prizmo. Neither sounds sufficiently well developed to meet the needs of 
 totally blind individuals at this time, but perhaps I'm underestimating 
 their utility. Has anyone on this list tried either product, and if so, how 
 useful did you find it?
 
 Cordially,
 Rafael Bejarano
 
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Re: Scanners with OCR for the iPhone

2011-04-06 Thread Bejarano, Rafael P.
That would be wonderful, assuming the cost were reasonable.

Rafael
On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Rumor has it that they're working on a version of KNFB reader for the Iphone.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1http://www.facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1

On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

Hi Anne,

It sounds as though both apps still need a bit of work, before they can replace 
the traditional flat-bed scanner. I don't yet own an iPhone, although I was 
considering buying one provided one or both of the aforementioned scanner/OCR 
apps was truly useful. I'll probably wait a while longer, given the current 
state of these apps. I wish we had a scanning app for the iPhone as good as the 
Kurzweil app being sold by the National Federation of the Blind, here in the 
U.S.

Anyway, thanks for your input.

Cordially,
Rafael
On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello Rafael,

I'm totally blind and have used both SayText and Prizmo with some success.

SayText seems to work best for reading envelopes, and Prizmo for reading a page 
of a book or a sheet of A4 or the equivalent.

They both need good lighting, so I use Light Detector to gauge the level of 
light.

With both apps, you place the iPhone with its camera in the centre of the 
document, then raise it. With SayText, the autofocus mechanism tells you when 
to keep still and wait for it to take the picture.

With Prizmo, the phone vibrates, then you say Take Picture and it does just 
that. With Prizmo, you need to have a headset connected as it switches to the 
phone speaker rather than the normal speaker as soon as the picture has been 
taken.

Both apps require a bit of practice before you can get decent results.

Cheers,

Anne

On 6 Apr 2011, at 20:52, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

Hello all,

I've been reading a bit about two scanner/OCR apps for the iPhone: saytext and 
prizmo. Neither sounds sufficiently well developed to meet the needs of totally 
blind individuals at this time, but perhaps I'm underestimating their utility. 
Has anyone on this list tried either product, and if so, how useful did you 
find it?

Cordially,
Rafael Bejarano

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Re: Scanners with OCR for the iPhone

2011-04-06 Thread Cheree
Cheree Heppe here:

Yah, another over-priced, under-performing gadget for which the developers can 
gain more than the consumers.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPhone

On 06/04/2011, at 14:18, Bejarano, Rafael P. beja...@hsu.edu wrote:

 That would be wonderful, assuming the cost were reasonable.
 
 Rafael
 On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Rumor has it that they're working on a version of KNFB reader for the Iphone.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1http://www.facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 
 It sounds as though both apps still need a bit of work, before they can 
 replace the traditional flat-bed scanner. I don't yet own an iPhone, although 
 I was considering buying one provided one or both of the aforementioned 
 scanner/OCR apps was truly useful. I'll probably wait a while longer, given 
 the current state of these apps. I wish we had a scanning app for the iPhone 
 as good as the Kurzweil app being sold by the National Federation of the 
 Blind, here in the U.S.
 
 Anyway, thanks for your input.
 
 Cordially,
 Rafael
 On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Rafael,
 
 I'm totally blind and have used both SayText and Prizmo with some success.
 
 SayText seems to work best for reading envelopes, and Prizmo for reading a 
 page of a book or a sheet of A4 or the equivalent.
 
 They both need good lighting, so I use Light Detector to gauge the level of 
 light.
 
 With both apps, you place the iPhone with its camera in the centre of the 
 document, then raise it. With SayText, the autofocus mechanism tells you when 
 to keep still and wait for it to take the picture.
 
 With Prizmo, the phone vibrates, then you say Take Picture and it does just 
 that. With Prizmo, you need to have a headset connected as it switches to the 
 phone speaker rather than the normal speaker as soon as the picture has been 
 taken.
 
 Both apps require a bit of practice before you can get decent results.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 On 6 Apr 2011, at 20:52, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I've been reading a bit about two scanner/OCR apps for the iPhone: saytext 
 and prizmo. Neither sounds sufficiently well developed to meet the needs of 
 totally blind individuals at this time, but perhaps I'm underestimating their 
 utility. Has anyone on this list tried either product, and if so, how useful 
 did you find it?
 
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Re: Scanners with OCR for the iPhone

2011-04-06 Thread joseph
hi

i used saytext on iphone 3gs.  it does not work.

best
On 6 Apr 2011, at 19:52, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I've been reading a bit about two scanner/OCR apps for the iPhone: saytext 
 and prizmo. Neither sounds sufficiently well developed to meet the needs of 
 totally blind individuals at this time, but perhaps I'm underestimating their 
 utility. Has anyone on this list tried either product, and if so, how useful 
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