Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom 
Don’t hold your breath, Anders, i don’t think so myself.
/Krister


> 17 juli 2017 kl. 23:16 skrev Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se>:
> 
> Hi!
> Do you guys think this will come to smaller countries such as Sweden?
> Thanks.
> /A
>> 16 juli 2017 kl. 14:51 skrev Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name 
>> <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>>:
>> 
>> I have to admit, Microsoft did an amazing job on this product.  It is 
>> encouraging to think of the possibilities going forward.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  
>>> I thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read. 
>>>  I blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur 
>>> to me there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with 
>>> it.  There may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.  
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com 
>>>> <mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
>>>> text.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
>>>>> walks all over KNFB.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>>>>>> <myguidedo...@gmail.com <mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really 
>>>>>> am and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with 
>>>>>> grey hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years 
>>>>>> young.  It is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in 
>>>>>> facial recognition.  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
>>>>>> the description in the Canada Store.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
>>>>>> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project 
>>>>>> harnesses the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe 
>>>>>> nearby people, text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the 
>>>>>> app enables you to recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it 
>>>>>> appears in front of the camera.  • Documents - Provides 
>>>>>> audio guidance to capture a printed page, and recognizes the text, along 
>>>>>> with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio 
>>>>>> beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package information when 
>>>>>> available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People - Saves 
>>>>>> people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
>>>>>> age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an 
>>>>>> overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - 
>>>>>> Just tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from 
>>>>>> Mail, Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve 
>>>>>> more by leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. 
>>>>>>

RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-18 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Yes,

New Zealand is a lot smaller in population size than swedan  and a lot lot 
further away than anything from anyone and we’ve got it.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2017 9:17 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

Hi!
Do you guys think this will come to smaller countries such as Sweden?
Thanks.
/A
16 juli 2017 kl. 14:51 skrev Jeff Berwick 
<mailingli...@berwick.name<mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>>:

I have to admit, Microsoft did an amazing job on this product.  It is 
encouraging to think of the possibilities going forward.

Jeff

On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. 
<larry.thacker...@gmail.com<mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  I 
thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read.  I 
blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur to me 
there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with it.  There 
may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.

On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann 
<rm...@technologyisawesome.com<mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short text.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. 
<larry.thacker...@gmail.com<mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it walks 
all over KNFB.

On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
<myguidedo...@gmail.com<mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am and 
my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey hair and 
a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It is still a 
good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial recognition.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

Hi,

I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
description in the Canada Store.

Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  • 
 Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
   Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People 
- Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall 
description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” 
and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the power 
of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research progresses, more 
channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com<http://seeingai.com/> for 
more details and instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, 
Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages 
supported – English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance 
with iPhone 6S and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email 
us at seeingai @ microsoft.com<http://microsoft.com/>.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu 
<kgli...@icloud.com<mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:

I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in to 
get it.

Kawal.


On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs 
<myguidedo...@gmail.com<mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years older 
then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, the app 
works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took a picture 
of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube link to

Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-17 Thread David Chittenden 
It will come to whichever countries MicroSoft is able to get access to the 
country specific product barcode databases.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 18/07/2017, at 07:16, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Do you guys think this will come to smaller countries such as Sweden?
> Thanks.
> /A
>> 16 juli 2017 kl. 14:51 skrev Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name>:
>> 
>> I have to admit, Microsoft did an amazing job on this product.  It is 
>> encouraging to think of the possibilities going forward.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  
>>> I thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read. 
>>>  I blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur 
>>> to me there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with 
>>> it.  There may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.  
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
>>>> text.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. 
>>>>> <larry.thacker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
>>>>> walks all over KNFB.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>>>>>> <myguidedo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really 
>>>>>> am and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with 
>>>>>> grey hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years 
>>>>>> young.  It is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in 
>>>>>> facial recognition.  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
>>>>>> the description in the Canada Store.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
>>>>>> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project 
>>>>>> harnesses the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe 
>>>>>> nearby people, text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the 
>>>>>> app enables you to recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it 
>>>>>> appears in front of the camera.  • Documents - Provides 
>>>>>> audio guidance to capture a printed page, and recognizes the text, along 
>>>>>> with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio 
>>>>>> beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package information when 
>>>>>> available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People - Saves 
>>>>>> people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
>>>>>> age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an 
>>>>>> overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - 
>>>>>> Just tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from 
>>>>>> Mail, Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve 
>>>>>> more by leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. 
>>>>>> As the research progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit 
>>>>>> http://SeeingAI.com for more details and instructional videos.  
>>>>>> Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapor

Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-17 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
Do you guys think this will come to smaller countries such as Sweden?
Thanks.
/A
> 16 juli 2017 kl. 14:51 skrev Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name>:
> 
> I have to admit, Microsoft did an amazing job on this product.  It is 
> encouraging to think of the possibilities going forward.
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  I 
>> thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read.  I 
>> blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur to 
>> me there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with it.  
>> There may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.  
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com 
>>> <mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
>>> text.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
>>>> walks all over KNFB.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>>>>> <myguidedo...@gmail.com <mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really 
>>>>> am and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with 
>>>>> grey hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years 
>>>>> young.  It is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in 
>>>>> facial recognition.  
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>  
>>>>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
>>>>> the description in the Canada Store.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
>>>>> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project 
>>>>> harnesses the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby 
>>>>> people, text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app 
>>>>> enables you to recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it 
>>>>> appears in front of the camera.  • Documents - Provides audio 
>>>>> guidance to capture a printed page, and recognizes the text, along with 
>>>>> its original formatting.  • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio beeps 
>>>>> to guide you; hear the name, and package information when available. 
>>>>> (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People - Saves people’s faces 
>>>>> so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their age, gender, and 
>>>>> emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall description 
>>>>> of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” and 
>>>>> “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
>>>>> and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the 
>>>>> power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research 
>>>>> progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com 
>>>>> <http://seeingai.com/> for more details and instructional videos.  
>>>>> Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. 
>>>>> Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported 
>>>>> on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later 
>>>>> models. Que

Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-17 Thread Jessica Moss 
I like the document feature a lot better than short text.  I can almost never 
get camera focussed properly for the short text channel.
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 9:57 PM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote:
> 
> You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
> text.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
>> walks all over KNFB.
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>>> <myguidedo...@gmail.com <mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am 
>>> and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey 
>>> hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It 
>>> is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial 
>>> recognition.  
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
>>> the description in the Canada Store.
>>>  
>>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
>>> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses 
>>> the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, 
>>> text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to 
>>> recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of 
>>> the camera.  • Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a 
>>> printed page, and recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  
>>> • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, 
>>> and package information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   
>>> People - Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an 
>>> estimate of their age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early 
>>> preview) - Hear an overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in 
>>> other apps - Just tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe 
>>> images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help 
>>> you achieve more by leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial 
>>> intelligence. As the research progresses, more channels may be added.  
>>> Visit http://SeeingAI.com <http://seeingai.com/> for more details and 
>>> instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New 
>>> Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – 
>>> English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 
>>> 6S and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at 
>>> seeingai @ microsoft.com <http://microsoft.com/>.
>>>  
>>> Later...
>>>  
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>>>  
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in 
>>> to get it.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedo...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married 
>>>> to me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 
>>>> years older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking 
>>>> aside, the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not 
>>>> people, I took a picture of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have 
>>>> sent the YouTube link to people in Canada and New Zealand.  
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>

Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-17 Thread Jessica Moss 
I love the way it helps you scan documents/barcodes; well, for the most part.  
I love how it helps you align the camera with the product/document, however, 
I’ve had several issues where I couldn’t get products to scan at all, or had 
trouble aligning them, so that may just be something I’ll have to play around 
with.
  I got it to scan the instruction card from a mix I was going to cook, which 
my zoomEx always has the hardest time with, and it read it almost perfectly, 
except it constantly said the recipe called for H cup of water, which it read 
that as no matter how many times I scanned it.
  I later got sighted assistance with it, and found out the “H, cup water,” was 
1/2 cup water.
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 7:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
> <myguidedo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am 
> and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey 
> hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It 
> is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial 
> recognition.  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
> description in the Canada Store.
>  
> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
> blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
> power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
> objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  
> •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
>Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
> recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
> barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
> information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   
> People - Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate 
> of their age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an 
> overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just 
> tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, 
> Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by 
> leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the 
> research progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com 
> <http://seeingai.com/> for more details and instructional videos.  Available 
> in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to 
> more countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S 
> and later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later models. Questions, 
> feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ microsoft.com 
> <http://microsoft.com/>.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>  
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>  
> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in 
> to get it.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedo...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married 
>> to me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years 
>> older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, 
>> the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took 
>> a picture of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube 
>> link to people in Canada and New Zealand.  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
>> To: Mark Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>>; Macvisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8 <https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8

RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-17 Thread David & his pack of dogs 
I suppose it depends on which side of the fence one is on.  Some women marry 
their financial plan and men marry to get a maid. Maybe we should ask SIRI her 
opinion?  LOL.   

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: July 16, 2017 11:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

 

is this possibly 18 years worth of stress from being married?

 

You said your wife had aged 6 years from being married to you?

 

This works both ways!

 

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, 16 July 2017 11:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

 

They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am and 
my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey hair and 
a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It is still a 
good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial recognition.  

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

 

Hi,

 

I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
description in the Canada Store.

 

Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  • 
 Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
   Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People 
- Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall 
description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” 
and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the power 
of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research progresses, more 
channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com for more details and 
instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New 
Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – 
English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S 
and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai 
@ microsoft.com <http://microsoft.com> .

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 

 

On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
<mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in to 
get it.

Kawal.

On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years older 
then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, the app 
works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took a picture 
of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube link to people 
in Canada and New Zealand.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
To: Mark Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> >; Macvisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk> 
Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-17 Thread Simon Fogarty 
is this possibly 18 years worth of stress from being married?

You said your wife had aged 6 years from being married to you?

This works both ways!



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, 16 July 2017 11:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am and 
my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey hair and 
a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It is still a 
good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial recognition.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

Hi,

I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
description in the Canada Store.

Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  • 
 Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
   Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People 
- Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall 
description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” 
and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the power 
of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research progresses, more 
channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com for more details and 
instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New 
Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – 
English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S 
and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai 
@ microsoft.com<http://microsoft.com>.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu 
<kgli...@icloud.com<mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:

I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in to 
get it.

Kawal.
On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs 
<myguidedo...@gmail.com<mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years older 
then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, the app 
works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took a picture 
of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube link to people 
in Canada and New Zealand.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
To: Mark Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>>; Macvisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk<mailto:guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8


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Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-16 Thread David Chittenden 
When testing Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, and Prizmo Go, on a complex magazine page 
with multiple columns and fonts, KNFB does the best.

Surprisingly, however, both Prizmo Go, and Seeing AI, do better on simple pages.

Seeing AI really shines on short text and bar code. I especially like short 
text locating signage when I am out and about.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 16/07/2017, at 22:50, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  I 
> thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read.  I 
> blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur to 
> me there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with it.  
> There may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.  
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
>> text.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
>>> walks all over KNFB.
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>>>> <myguidedo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am 
>>>> and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey 
>>>> hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  
>>>> It is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial 
>>>> recognition.  
>>>>  
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>>>  
>>>> Hi,
>>>>  
>>>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
>>>> the description in the Canada Store.
>>>>  
>>>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
>>>> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project 
>>>> harnesses the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby 
>>>> people, text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app 
>>>> enables you to recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it 
>>>> appears in front of the camera.  • Documents - Provides audio 
>>>> guidance to capture a printed page, and recognizes the text, along with 
>>>> its original formatting.  • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio beeps 
>>>> to guide you; hear the name, and package information when available. 
>>>> (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People - Saves people’s faces 
>>>> so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their age, gender, and 
>>>> emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall description of 
>>>> the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” and 
>>>> “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
>>>> and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the 
>>>> power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research 
>>>> progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com for 
>>>> more details and instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, 
>>>> India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  
>>>> Languages supported – English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best 
>>>> performance with iPhone 6S and later models. Questions, feedback or 
>>>> feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ microsoft.com.
>>>>  
>>>> Later...
>>>>  
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>>>>  
>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put 
>>>> in to get it.
>>>> 
>>>> Kawal.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15 Ju

RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-16 Thread gary-melconian 
Will this app be coming to android as well.  

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 5:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

 

I have to admit, Microsoft did an amazing job on this product.  It is 
encouraging to think of the possibilities going forward.

 

Jeff

 

On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com 
<mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  I 
thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read.  I 
blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur to me 
there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with it.  There 
may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.  

 

On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com 
<mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

 

You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short text.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. < 
<mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com> larry.thacker...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it walks 
all over KNFB.

 

On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs < 
<mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com> myguidedo...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am and 
my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey hair and 
a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It is still a 
good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial recognition.  

 

From:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[ <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

 

Hi,

 

I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
description in the Canada Store.

 

Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  • 
 Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
   Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People 
- Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall 
description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” 
and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the power 
of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research progresses, more 
channels may be added.  Visit  <http://seeingai.com/> http://SeeingAI.com for 
more details and instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, 
Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages 
supported – English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance 
with iPhone 6S and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email 
us at seeingai @  <http://microsoft.com/> microsoft.com.

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 

 

On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu < <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> 
kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in to 
get it.

Kawal.




On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs < 
<mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com> myguidedo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years older 
then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, the app 
works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took a picture 
of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube link to people 
in Canada and New Zealand.  

-Original Message-
From:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[ <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mail

Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-16 Thread Jeff Berwick 
I have to admit, Microsoft did an amazing job on this product.  It is 
encouraging to think of the possibilities going forward.

Jeff

> On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  I 
> thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read.  I 
> blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur to 
> me there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with it.  
> There may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.  
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com 
>> <mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
>> text.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
>>> walks all over KNFB.
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>>>> <myguidedo...@gmail.com <mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am 
>>>> and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey 
>>>> hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  
>>>> It is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial 
>>>> recognition.  
>>>>  
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>>>  
>>>> Hi,
>>>>  
>>>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
>>>> the description in the Canada Store.
>>>>  
>>>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
>>>> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project 
>>>> harnesses the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby 
>>>> people, text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app 
>>>> enables you to recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it 
>>>> appears in front of the camera.  • Documents - Provides audio 
>>>> guidance to capture a printed page, and recognizes the text, along with 
>>>> its original formatting.  • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio beeps 
>>>> to guide you; hear the name, and package information when available. 
>>>> (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People - Saves people’s faces 
>>>> so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their age, gender, and 
>>>> emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall description of 
>>>> the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” and 
>>>> “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
>>>> and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the 
>>>> power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research 
>>>> progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com 
>>>> <http://seeingai.com/> for more details and instructional videos.  
>>>> Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. 
>>>> Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported 
>>>> on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later 
>>>> models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ 
>>>> microsoft.com <http://microsoft.com/>.
>>>>  
>>>> Later...
>>>>  
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>>>>  
>>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what

Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-16 Thread Larry Thacker Jr. 
Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  I 
thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read.  I 
blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur to me 
there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with it.  There 
may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.  

> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote:
> 
> You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
> text.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:larry.thacker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
>> walks all over KNFB.
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>>> <myguidedo...@gmail.com <mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am 
>>> and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey 
>>> hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It 
>>> is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial 
>>> recognition.  
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
>>> the description in the Canada Store.
>>>  
>>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
>>> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses 
>>> the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, 
>>> text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to 
>>> recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of 
>>> the camera.  • Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a 
>>> printed page, and recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  
>>> • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, 
>>> and package information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   
>>> People - Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an 
>>> estimate of their age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early 
>>> preview) - Hear an overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in 
>>> other apps - Just tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe 
>>> images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help 
>>> you achieve more by leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial 
>>> intelligence. As the research progresses, more channels may be added.  
>>> Visit http://SeeingAI.com <http://seeingai.com/> for more details and 
>>> instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New 
>>> Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – 
>>> English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 
>>> 6S and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at 
>>> seeingai @ microsoft.com <http://microsoft.com/>.
>>>  
>>> Later...
>>>  
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>>>  
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in 
>>> to get it.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedo...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married 
>>>> to me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 
>>>> years older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking 
>>>> aside, the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs a

Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-15 Thread Ryan Mann 
You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short text.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
> walks all over KNFB.
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>> <myguidedo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am 
>> and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey 
>> hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It 
>> is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial 
>> recognition. 
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
>> description in the Canada Store.
>>  
>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
>> blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
>> power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, 
>> and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to 
>> recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of 
>> the camera.  • Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a 
>> printed page, and recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  
>> • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, 
>> and package information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •
>>People - Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an 
>> estimate of their age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) 
>> - Hear an overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other 
>> apps - Just tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images 
>> from Mail, Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you 
>> achieve more by leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial 
>> intelligence. As the research progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit 
>> http://SeeingAI.com for more details and instructional videos.  Available in 
>> the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to 
>> more countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S 
>> and later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later models. Questions, 
>> feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ microsoft.com.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>  
>> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in 
>> to get it.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedo...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married 
>>> to me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years 
>>> older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, 
>>> the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I 
>>> took a picture of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the 
>>> YouTube link to people in Canada and New Zealand.  
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
>>> To: Mark Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu>; Macvisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk
>>> Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>> 
>>> https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-15 Thread Larry Thacker Jr. 
It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it walks 
all over KNFB.

> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
> <myguidedo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am 
> and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey 
> hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It 
> is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial 
> recognition. 
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
> description in the Canada Store.
>  
> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
> blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
> power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
> objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  
> •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
>Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
> recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
> barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
> information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   
> People - Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate 
> of their age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an 
> overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just 
> tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, 
> Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by 
> leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the 
> research progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com 
> <http://seeingai.com/> for more details and instructional videos.  Available 
> in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to 
> more countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S 
> and later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later models. Questions, 
> feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ microsoft.com 
> <http://microsoft.com/>.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>  
> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in 
> to get it.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedo...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married 
>> to me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years 
>> older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, 
>> the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took 
>> a picture of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube 
>> link to people in Canada and New Zealand.  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
>> To: Mark Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>>; Macvisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8 <https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8>
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-15 Thread David & his pack of dogs 
They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am and 
my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey hair and 
a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It is still a 
good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial recognition.  

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

 

Hi,

 

I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
description in the Canada Store.

 

Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  • 
 Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
   Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People 
- Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall 
description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” 
and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the power 
of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research progresses, more 
channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com for more details and 
instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New 
Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – 
English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S 
and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai 
@ microsoft.com <http://microsoft.com> .

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 

 

On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
<mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in to 
get it.

Kawal.



On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years older 
then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, the app 
works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took a picture 
of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube link to people 
in Canada and New Zealand.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
To: Mark Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> >; Macvisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk
Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8


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Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-15 Thread Tim Kilburn 
Hi,

I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
description in the Canada Store.

Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  • 
 Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
 Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and recognizes 
the text, along with its original formatting.  •  Products - Scans barcodes, 
using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package information when 
available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) • People - Saves people’s faces 
so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their age, gender, and 
emotions.  • Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall description of the 
scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” and “Recognize with 
Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI 
is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the power of the cloud and 
artificial intelligence. As the research progresses, more channels may be 
added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com for more details and instructional videos.  
Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. Coming 
soon to more countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 
5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later models. Questions, 
feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ microsoft.com 
.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in to 
get it.

Kawal.
> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs  
> wrote:
> 
> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
> me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years 
> older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, 
> the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took 
> a picture of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube 
> link to people in Canada and New Zealand.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
> To: Mark Taylor ; Macvisionaries 
> 
> Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk
> Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
> 
> https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8
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Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-15 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in to 
get it.

Kawal.
> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs  
> wrote:
> 
> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
> me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years 
> older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, 
> the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took 
> a picture of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube 
> link to people in Canada and New Zealand.  
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
> To: Mark Taylor ; Macvisionaries 
> 
> Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk
> Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
> 
> https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8
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RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

2017-07-15 Thread David & his pack of dogs 
I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years older 
then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, the app 
works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took a picture 
of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube link to people 
in Canada and New Zealand.  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
To: Mark Taylor ; Macvisionaries 

Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk
Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8


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