Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
That's really weird.  I've perhaps been lucky then, as staying connected has 
never been an issue.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon Fogarty 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 4:05 PM
  Subject: RE: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  And besides, I have enough trouble with my current apple watch staying paired 
to my iPhone 6s+ 

  It for some reason just keeps dropping the pair even though playing music or 
video still workis fine with the watch controlling the playback on the phone,

   

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
  Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 2:44 AM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
  Importance: High

   

  No guts, no glory.:)

   

  I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, that’s 
a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, this 
stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  From 
what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to pair 
more than one watch to a phone.

   

On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Guys,

 

I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around with 
firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.

 

Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.

 

This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go online 
and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  I 
figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully know 
what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I fully 
understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official Watch 
OS2.1.

 

Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy 
am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the 
beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
either!

 

http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx

 

I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.

 

God bless.

 

Chris.

 

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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Daniel Miller 
Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers only.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> No guts, no glory.:)
> 
> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, that’s 
> a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, this 
> stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  
> From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want 
> to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>  
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
>> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
>> with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
>> 
>> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
>> 
>> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
>> watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
>> online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
>> works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that 
>> I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, 
>> that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the 
>> official Watch OS2.1.
>> 
>> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still think 
>> it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy am I 
>> glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the 
>> beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going 
>> to either!
>> 
>> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx
>> 
>> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
>> 
>> God bless.
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
Yikes!  I'm now even more! glad I didn't do it!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Because the watches pair to your phone, and the watch can except profiles 
like the iPhone can. Installing a profile that's meant for the phone could 
cause catastrophic issues if installed on the watch.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:


Are you by chance set up as a developer?


That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.


  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public 
beta this morning, after going to:

  http://beta.apple.com/profile

  and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my 
phone, or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch 
of some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Miller
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
    Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to 
developers only.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:


  No guts, no glory.:)


  I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off 
either, that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out 
for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless 
you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.


On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Guys,


I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things 
without really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 
on to my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to 
go online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I 
fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that 
I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official 
Watch OS2.1.


Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I 
still think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed 
the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going 
to either!


http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did 
so.


God bless.


Chris.


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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public beta 
this morning, after going to:

http://beta.apple.com/profile

and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, or 
to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of some 
sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
only.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:


No guts, no glory.:)


I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, 
this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  
From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to 
pair more than one watch to a phone.


  On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Guys,


  I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around with 
firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


  Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


  This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to 
my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  
I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully 
know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I 
fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official 
Watch OS2.1.


  Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy 
am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the 
beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
either!


  http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


  I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.


  God bless.


  Chris.


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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
I’ll wait for a new watch, Generation 2 and let’s hope the watch becomes a bit 
more mature!
> On 15 Jan 2016, at 14:03, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> That’s a very good call.  Reading here it appears the IOS and OS X are the 
> public betas.  Ok well that illuminates me either way but still I wouldn’t do 
> it.  Doesn’t look like enough gain for the risk, I’ll wait for the real deal 
> version.
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
>> only.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>>> No guts, no glory.:)
>>> 
>>> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
>>> that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
>>> though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
>>> out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal 
>>> unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>>>  
 On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland > wrote:
 
 Guys,
 
 I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
 really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
 with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
 
 Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
 
 This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
 watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
 online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
 works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, 
 that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like 
 things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade 
 to the official Watch OS2.1.
 
 Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
 think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
 boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
 installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading 
 this, I’m not going to either!
 
 http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx 
 
 I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
 
 God bless.
 
 Chris.
 
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Scott Granados 
That’s a very good call.  Reading here it appears the IOS and OS X are the 
public betas.  Ok well that illuminates me either way but still I wouldn’t do 
it.  Doesn’t look like enough gain for the risk, I’ll wait for the real deal 
version.

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
> only.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> No guts, no glory.:)
>> 
>> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
>> that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
>> though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
>> out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal 
>> unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>>  
>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys,
>>> 
>>> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
>>> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
>>> with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
>>> 
>>> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
>>> 
>>> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
>>> watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
>>> online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
>>> works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, 
>>> that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like 
>>> things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade 
>>> to the official Watch OS2.1.
>>> 
>>> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
>>> think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
>>> boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
>>> installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, 
>>> I’m not going to either!
>>> 
>>> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx 
>>> 
>>> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
>>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking.  It's honestly probably not worth it, 
after I did my research.

Chris.

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  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:43 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  No guts, no glory.:)


  I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, that’s 
a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, this 
stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  From 
what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to pair 
more than one watch to a phone.


On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Guys,


I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around with 
firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go online 
and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  I 
figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully know 
what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I fully 
understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official Watch 
OS2.1.


Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy 
am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the 
beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
either!


http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.


God bless.


Chris.


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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Daniel Miller 
Because the watches pair to your phone, and the watch can except profiles like 
the iPhone can. Installing a profile that's meant for the phone could cause 
catastrophic issues if installed on the watch.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> Are you by chance set up as a developer?
> 
> That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public beta 
>> this morning, after going to:
>>  
>> http://beta.apple.com/profile
>>  
>> and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, 
>> or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of 
>> some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Daniel Miller
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
>>> 
>>> Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
>>> only.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> No guts, no glory.:)
>>>> 
>>>> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
>>>> that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
>>>> though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
>>>> out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal 
>>>> unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
>>>>> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
>>>>> around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to 
>>>>> my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to 
>>>>> go online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public 
>>>>> beta works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this 
>>>>> task, that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t 
>>>>> like things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, and 
>>>>> downgrade to the official Watch OS2.1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
>>>>> think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
>>>>> boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
>>>>> installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading 
>>>>> this, I’m not going to either!
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx
>>>>> 
>>>>> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> God bless.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
I am, but that wouldn't matter as I didn't go through the dev methods to get 
that profile.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Granados 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Are you by chance set up as a developer?


  That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.


On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public 
beta this morning, after going to:

http://beta.apple.com/profile

and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, 
or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of some 
sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to 
developers only.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:


No guts, no glory.:)


I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, 
this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  
From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to 
pair more than one watch to a phone.


  On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


  Guys,


  I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things 
without really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


  Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


  This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on 
to my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  
I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully 
know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I 
fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official 
Watch OS2.1.


  Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I 
still think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed 
the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going 
to either!


  http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


  I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.


  God bless.


  Chris.


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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Daniel Miller 
Not only do you have to be a developer to get watchOS betas, you have to 
register your UD ID of the watch with the developer center, which can only be 
found if you connect the paired phone to Xcode. No UDID registered? Bricked  
watch.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yikes!  I'm now even more! glad I didn't do it!
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel Miller
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
> 
> Because the watches pair to your phone, and the watch can except profiles 
> like the iPhone can. Installing a profile that's meant for the phone could 
> cause catastrophic issues if installed on the watch.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you by chance set up as a developer?
>> 
>> That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public 
>>> beta this morning, after going to:
>>>  
>>> http://beta.apple.com/profile
>>>  
>>> and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, 
>>> or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of 
>>> some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Daniel Miller
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
>>>> 
>>>> Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
>>>> only.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> No guts, no glory.:)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
>>>>> that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
>>>>> though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
>>>>> out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge 
>>>>> deal unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
>>>>>> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
>>>>>> around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to 
>>>>>> my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to 
>>>>>> go online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public 
>>>>>> beta works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this 
>>>>>> task, that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I 
>>>>>> don’t like things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, 
>>>>>> and downgrade to the official Watch OS2.1.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
>>>>>> think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say 
>>>>>> is, boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
>>>>>> installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading 
>>>>>> this, I’m not going to either!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> God bless.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>> 
>>>>

Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Scott Granados 
No guts, no glory.:)

I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, that’s a 
pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, this 
stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  From 
what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to pair 
more than one watch to a phone.
 
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
> with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
> 
> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
> 
> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
> watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
> online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
> works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that 
> I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, 
> that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the 
> official Watch OS2.1.
> 
> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still think 
> it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy am I 
> glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the beta 
> to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
> either!
> 
> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx 
> 
> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
> 
> God bless.
> 
> Chris.
> 
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Scott Granados 
Are you by chance set up as a developer?

That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.

> On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the public beta 
> this morning, after going to:
>  
> http://beta.apple.com/profile <http://beta.apple.com/profile>
>  
> and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my phone, 
> or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch of 
> some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Daniel Miller <mailto:miller...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
>> 
>> Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to developers 
>> only.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>> No guts, no glory.:)
>>> 
>>> I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, 
>>> that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
>>> though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold 
>>> out for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal 
>>> unless you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Guys,
>>>> 
>>>> I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without 
>>>> really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around 
>>>> with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.
>>>> 
>>>> Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.
>>>> 
>>>> This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
>>>> watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go 
>>>> online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
>>>> works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, 
>>>> that I fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like 
>>>> things, that I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade 
>>>> to the official Watch OS2.1.
>>>> 
>>>> Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still 
>>>> think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, 
>>>> boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
>>>> installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading 
>>>> this, I’m not going to either!
>>>> 
>>>> http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx <http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx>
>>>> 
>>>> I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.
>>>> 
>>>> God bless.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
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Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
Good point, and very well taken.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Not only do you have to be a developer to get watchOS betas, you have to 
register your UD ID of the watch with the developer center, which can only be 
found if you connect the paired phone to Xcode. No UDID registered? Bricked  
watch.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Yikes!  I'm now even more! glad I didn't do it!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


  Because the watches pair to your phone, and the watch can except profiles 
like the iPhone can. Installing a profile that's meant for the phone could 
cause catastrophic issues if installed on the watch.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:


Are you by chance set up as a developer? 


That might be the difference.  Just thinking out loud.


  On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Then, why is it, when I went to enroll one of my phones into the 
public beta this morning, after going to:

  http://beta.apple.com/profile

  and installing the profile, it asked me if I wanted to install to my 
phone, or to my watch?  Undoubtedly, there must be a public beta for the watch 
of some sort, or it wouldn't have given me that option.

  Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Miller
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:01 AM
        Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...


Hi. That's actually not a public beta release, that's seated to 
developers only.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> 
wrote:


  No guts, no glory.:) 


  I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off 
either, that’s a pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product 
though, this stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out 
for 2.2.  From what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless 
you want to pair more than one watch to a phone.


On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Guys, 


I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things 
without really doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing 
around with firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.


Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.


This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch 
OS2 on to my watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided 
to go online and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta 
works.  I figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I 
fully know what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that 
I fully understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official 
Watch OS2.1.


Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, 
I still think it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say 
is, boy am I glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not 
installed the beta to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m 
not going to either!


http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx


I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I 
did so.


God bless.


Chris.


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RE: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...

2016-01-15 Thread Simon Fogarty 
And besides, I have enough trouble with my current apple watch staying paired 
to my iPhone 6s+
It for some reason just keeps dropping the pair even though playing music or 
video still workis fine with the watch controlling the playback on the phone,

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 2:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning! Before installing Apple Watch Beta...
Importance: High

No guts, no glory.:)

I’m kidding, I read this, I wouldn’t want to ship my phone off either, that’s a 
pretty rough process to revert.  Watch is still a new product though, this 
stuff will refine itself over time.  For now I guess we hold out for 2.2.  From 
what the public beta says doesn’t seem like a huge deal unless you want to pair 
more than one watch to a phone.

On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Chris Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Guys,

I am the type person who doesn’t just dive straight into things without really 
doing my homework.  Especially not when it comes to screwing around with 
firmware/software updates, be it beta or not.

Even with public betas, I’m very very careful.

This morning, I was about to install the public beta of Watch OS2 on to my 
watch which I got last month.  Before doing so however, I decided to go online 
and read up more on how the downgrade process of the public beta works.  I 
figured, I really want to be sure before taking on this task, that I fully know 
what I’m getting myself into, and that if I don’t like things, that I fully 
understand the process to revert back, and downgrade to the official Watch 
OS2.1.

Granted, this article is slightly old, I will give that to ya, I still think 
it’s worth all of you watch users reading!  All that I will say is, boy am I 
glad I did my research before trying to do this.  I’ve not installed the beta 
to my watch, thank God, and frankly, after reading this, I’m not going to 
either!

http://bit.ly/1WeaVSx

I shortened the above URL as it was ridiculously long before I did so.

God bless.

Chris.

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