Re: bookmarks bar was Re: Mac Chrome: Item Chooser and Bookmark Bar

2016-02-12 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Yup, I noticed this when I upgrade to 10.11. They changed the default to 
command-option+# to activate bookmark bar items and command+# switches 
tabs. I use the bookmark shortcuts all the time so in Preferences under 
Tabs you can turn off "Use command 1 through command 9 to switch tabs" 
which will put things back the way they were.


CB

On 1/31/16 10:23 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Yes, it was changed in 10.11, but I just found an option in the tabs 
area of Safari preferences to go back to the earlier behavior that has 
been available for at least 7 years.


On Jan 30, 2016, at 18:07, erik burggraaf > wrote:


I am running 10.10.5 here.  Perhapse they've changed it in 10.11 but 
that would be super useless.


Erik Burggraaf


On Jan 30, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:


I didn’t think this worked in the new MacOS. I thought they changed 
these keystrokes to activate different tabs.


On Jan 30, 2016, at 14:20, ben J. Bloomgren 
> wrote:


Ha ha, so that's what that is. I had always wondered.

Ben

On Jan 30, 2016, at 08:48, erik burggraaf > wrote:



Hi Kevin,

Here's the story of the bookmarks bar.  All browsers have your 
basic favourites area.  Safari goes one step further and you can 
put your ten most used bookmarks on the bookmarks bar.  So, you've 
got the 10 icons always on the edge of the safari window, and the 
nice thing about it is that command 1 through command 0 are 
shortcut keys that load whichever bookmark is in that position on 
the bar.  The left most bookmark is command 1, and the right most 
is command 0.  I lived without this browsing feature for 15 years 
or so before discovering it and now I am a bit annoyed that it 
doesn't exist in chrome.


More to come on the item chooser.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kevin Chao > wrote:


THanks Erik!
Look forward to learning details from you re: item chooser and 
bookmarks bar...


On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Erik Burggraaf 
> wrote:


Hi Kevin.

Thanks for the article on reader plugins for chrome.

I'll flesh out the issue with item chooser on Saturday when
I'll be at my computer. The bookmarks bar I'll expand
tomorrow morning.

Best,

Erik

Sent from TypeApp 

On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Kevin Chao > wrote:

Hi Erik,

THanks for your detailed and great feedback on Mac Chrome
with VoiceOver on Mac-Visionaries!
I wanted to follow-up on 2 items and request more
details/steps to reproduce:
1. "Instability of the item chooser"
Could you please provide examples, steps to reproduce,
and what's "not-stable"?
2. "No bookmarks bar and associated hotkeys."
Chrome has bookmarks and hotkeys, so not sure what Safari
has that differs. Could you please provide more specific
details?
Thanks!





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Re: bookmarks bar was Re: Mac Chrome: Item Chooser and Bookmark Bar

2016-01-31 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
Yes, it was changed in 10.11, but I just found an option in the tabs area of 
Safari preferences to go back to the earlier behavior that has been available 
for at least 7 years.

> On Jan 30, 2016, at 18:07, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> I am running 10.10.5 here.  Perhapse they've changed it in 10.11 but that 
> would be super useless.
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> I didn’t think this worked in the new MacOS. I thought they changed these 
>> keystrokes to activate different tabs.
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 14:20, ben J. Bloomgren >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ha ha, so that's what that is. I had always wondered.
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 08:48, erik burggraaf >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Kevin,
 
 Here's the story of the bookmarks bar.  All browsers have your basic 
 favourites area.  Safari goes one step further and you can put your ten 
 most used bookmarks on the bookmarks bar.  So, you've got the 10 icons 
 always on the edge of the safari window, and the nice thing about it is 
 that command 1 through command 0 are shortcut keys that load whichever 
 bookmark is in that position on the bar.  The left most bookmark is 
 command 1, and the right most is command 0.  I lived without this browsing 
 feature for 15 years or so before discovering it and now I am a bit 
 annoyed that it doesn't exist in chrome.
 
 More to come on the item chooser.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 
 
> On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kevin Chao  > wrote:
> 
> THanks Erik!
> Look forward to learning details from you re: item chooser and bookmarks 
> bar...
> 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Erik Burggraaf  > wrote:
> Hi Kevin.
> 
> Thanks for the article on reader plugins for chrome.
> 
> I'll flesh out the issue with item chooser on Saturday when I'll be at my 
> computer. The bookmarks bar I'll expand tomorrow morning.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik
> 
> Sent from TypeApp 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Kevin Chao  > wrote:
> Hi Erik,
> 
> THanks for your detailed and great feedback on Mac Chrome with VoiceOver 
> on Mac-Visionaries! 
> I wanted to follow-up on 2 items and request more details/steps to 
> reproduce: 
> 1. "Instability of the item chooser"
> Could you please provide examples, steps to reproduce, and what's 
> "not-stable"?
> 2. "No bookmarks bar and associated hotkeys."
> Chrome has bookmarks and hotkeys, so not sure what Safari has that 
> differs. Could you please provide more specific details?
> Thanks!
> 
 
 
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Re: bookmarks bar was Re: Mac Chrome: Item Chooser and Bookmark Bar

2016-01-30 Thread ben J. Bloomgren 
Ha ha, so that's what that is. I had always wondered.

Ben

> On Jan 30, 2016, at 08:48, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> Here's the story of the bookmarks bar.  All browsers have your basic 
> favourites area.  Safari goes one step further and you can put your ten most 
> used bookmarks on the bookmarks bar.  So, you've got the 10 icons always on 
> the edge of the safari window, and the nice thing about it is that command 1 
> through command 0 are shortcut keys that load whichever bookmark is in that 
> position on the bar.  The left most bookmark is command 1, and the right most 
> is command 0.  I lived without this browsing feature for 15 years or so 
> before discovering it and now I am a bit annoyed that it doesn't exist in 
> chrome.
> 
> More to come on the item chooser.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>> 
>> THanks Erik!
>> Look forward to learning details from you re: item chooser and bookmarks 
>> bar...
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Erik Burggraaf  
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Kevin.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the article on reader plugins for chrome.
>>> 
>>> I'll flesh out the issue with item chooser on Saturday when I'll be at my 
>>> computer. The bookmarks bar I'll expand tomorrow morning.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik
>>> 
>>> Sent from TypeApp
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
 Hi Erik,
 
 THanks for your detailed and great feedback on Mac Chrome with VoiceOver 
 on Mac-Visionaries! 
 I wanted to follow-up on 2 items and request more details/steps to 
 reproduce: 
 1. "Instability of the item chooser"
 Could you please provide examples, steps to reproduce, and what's 
 "not-stable"?
 2. "No bookmarks bar and associated hotkeys."
 Chrome has bookmarks and hotkeys, so not sure what Safari has that 
 differs. Could you please provide more specific details?
 Thanks!
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Re: bookmarks bar was Re: Mac Chrome: Item Chooser and Bookmark Bar

2016-01-30 Thread erik burggraaf 
I am running 10.10.5 here.  Perhapse they've changed it in 10.11 but that would 
be super useless.

Erik Burggraaf


> On Jan 30, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I didn’t think this worked in the new MacOS. I thought they changed these 
> keystrokes to activate different tabs.
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 14:20, ben J. Bloomgren > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ha ha, so that's what that is. I had always wondered.
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 08:48, erik burggraaf > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>> 
>>> Here's the story of the bookmarks bar.  All browsers have your basic 
>>> favourites area.  Safari goes one step further and you can put your ten 
>>> most used bookmarks on the bookmarks bar.  So, you've got the 10 icons 
>>> always on the edge of the safari window, and the nice thing about it is 
>>> that command 1 through command 0 are shortcut keys that load whichever 
>>> bookmark is in that position on the bar.  The left most bookmark is command 
>>> 1, and the right most is command 0.  I lived without this browsing feature 
>>> for 15 years or so before discovering it and now I am a bit annoyed that it 
>>> doesn't exist in chrome.
>>> 
>>> More to come on the item chooser.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kevin Chao > wrote:
 
 THanks Erik!
 Look forward to learning details from you re: item chooser and bookmarks 
 bar...
 
 On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Erik Burggraaf > wrote:
 Hi Kevin.
 
 Thanks for the article on reader plugins for chrome.
 
 I'll flesh out the issue with item chooser on Saturday when I'll be at my 
 computer. The bookmarks bar I'll expand tomorrow morning.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik
 
 Sent from TypeApp 
 
 On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Kevin Chao > wrote:
 Hi Erik,
 
 THanks for your detailed and great feedback on Mac Chrome with VoiceOver 
 on Mac-Visionaries! 
 I wanted to follow-up on 2 items and request more details/steps to 
 reproduce: 
 1. "Instability of the item chooser"
 Could you please provide examples, steps to reproduce, and what's 
 "not-stable"?
 2. "No bookmarks bar and associated hotkeys."
 Chrome has bookmarks and hotkeys, so not sure what Safari has that 
 differs. Could you please provide more specific details?
 Thanks!
 
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Re: bookmarks bar was Re: Mac Chrome: Item Chooser and Bookmark Bar

2016-01-30 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
I didn’t think this worked in the new MacOS. I thought they changed these 
keystrokes to activate different tabs.

> On Jan 30, 2016, at 14:20, ben J. Bloomgren  wrote:
> 
> Ha ha, so that's what that is. I had always wondered.
> 
> Ben
> 
> On Jan 30, 2016, at 08:48, erik burggraaf  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kevin,
>> 
>> Here's the story of the bookmarks bar.  All browsers have your basic 
>> favourites area.  Safari goes one step further and you can put your ten most 
>> used bookmarks on the bookmarks bar.  So, you've got the 10 icons always on 
>> the edge of the safari window, and the nice thing about it is that command 1 
>> through command 0 are shortcut keys that load whichever bookmark is in that 
>> position on the bar.  The left most bookmark is command 1, and the right 
>> most is command 0.  I lived without this browsing feature for 15 years or so 
>> before discovering it and now I am a bit annoyed that it doesn't exist in 
>> chrome.
>> 
>> More to come on the item chooser.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kevin Chao >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> THanks Erik!
>>> Look forward to learning details from you re: item chooser and bookmarks 
>>> bar...
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Erik Burggraaf >> > wrote:
>>> Hi Kevin.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the article on reader plugins for chrome.
>>> 
>>> I'll flesh out the issue with item chooser on Saturday when I'll be at my 
>>> computer. The bookmarks bar I'll expand tomorrow morning.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik
>>> 
>>> Sent from TypeApp 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Kevin Chao >> > wrote:
>>> Hi Erik,
>>> 
>>> THanks for your detailed and great feedback on Mac Chrome with VoiceOver on 
>>> Mac-Visionaries! 
>>> I wanted to follow-up on 2 items and request more details/steps to 
>>> reproduce: 
>>> 1. "Instability of the item chooser"
>>> Could you please provide examples, steps to reproduce, and what's 
>>> "not-stable"?
>>> 2. "No bookmarks bar and associated hotkeys."
>>> Chrome has bookmarks and hotkeys, so not sure what Safari has that differs. 
>>> Could you please provide more specific details?
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>> 
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