Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
There are but no accessible way from what i know.
/A
> 1 okt. 2015 kl. 06:50 skrev Singing Sparrow :
> 
> Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing 
> windows?
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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.

Chris.

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Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing 
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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Singing Sparrow]

what about whine?

On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.

Chris.

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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Scott Granados]

You will need some sort of emulator.  Fusion would still require windows as I 
understand things because all that is is a virtual environment for hosting 
virtual machines which would still need to have an OS installed.

Wine may work if there’s a Mac port.

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
> 
> what about whine?
> 
> On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
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>> Subject: Running windows programs on the mac.
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>>> windows?
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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

You could also try Crossover which tries to run Windows apps without 
Windows by mapping all the Windows APIs to Mac APIs. It's built on Wine. 
I don't know how accessible it is but they have a free trial so you 
could give it a whirl.


https://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-mac/

A bit about their support of the Wine project:

https://www.codeweavers.com/about/support_wine/

CB

On 10/1/15 10:46 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

An app called Wineskin is what I used to run an audio game on the Mac. Thing 
is, that game was self-voicing. I don't think there's a way to use Wine to 
emulate both your program *and* a screen reader, which is where the problem is. 
Sighted users can do this because they don't need a screen reader to be running 
at the same time, but if you need speech and the program in question isn't 
self-voicing, I don't think you can do it. Sorry.

On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:21, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:

strange but thought from what i was reading it was accessible? at least that is 
what i read on the program.

On 10/1/2015 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not accessible.  Trust me, I've tried, and it was a disaster.

Chris.

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what about whine?

On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.

Chris.

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Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing windows?

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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Singing Sparrow]

strange but thought from what i was reading it was accessible? at least 
that is what i read on the program.


On 10/1/2015 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not accessible.  Trust me, I've tried, and it was a disaster.

Chris.

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what about whine?

On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.

Chris.

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Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out 
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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Alex Hall]

An app called Wineskin is what I used to run an audio game on the Mac. Thing 
is, that game was self-voicing. I don't think there's a way to use Wine to 
emulate both your program *and* a screen reader, which is where the problem is. 
Sighted users can do this because they don't need a screen reader to be running 
at the same time, but if you need speech and the program in question isn't 
self-voicing, I don't think you can do it. Sorry.
> On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:21, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
> 
> strange but thought from what i was reading it was accessible? at least that 
> is what i read on the program.
> 
> On 10/1/2015 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Not accessible.  Trust me, I've tried, and it was a disaster.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Singing Sparrow" <sunsh...@abe.midco.net>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 8:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: Running windows programs on the mac.
>> 
>> 
>>> what about whine?
>>> 
>>> On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>> Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message - From: "Singing Sparrow" 
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>>>>> windows?
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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Not accessible.  Trust me, I've tried, and it was a disaster.

Chris.

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what about whine?

On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.

Chris.

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Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing 
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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

There is a macport, but to run the windows app plus a screen reader for 
Windows that would allow it to speak accessibly is pretty much a nogo.


Chris.

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You will need some sort of emulator.  Fusion would still require windows as 
I understand things because all that is is a virtual environment for hosting 
virtual machines which would still need to have an OS installed.


Wine may work if there’s a Mac port.

On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> 
wrote:


what about whine?

On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.

Chris.

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<sunsh...@abe.midco.net>

To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
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Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing 
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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Nicolai Svendsen]

I was going to say. You're not going to really get anything good out of this. 
The best solution honestly is a virtual environment. Getting it to work with 
Wine might be doable, but finding out whether an application will work with 
Wine, then tweaking it to work correctly is incredibly tedious. I've found 
through personal experience that most of the time, if it isn't in the Wine 
AppDB, it isn't worth the effort.

Nicolai
> On Oct 1, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> There is a macport, but to run the windows app plus a screen reader for 
> Windows that would allow it to speak accessibly is pretty much a nogo.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Running windows programs on the mac.
> 
> 
> You will need some sort of emulator.  Fusion would still require windows as I 
> understand things because all that is is a virtual environment for hosting 
> virtual machines which would still need to have an OS installed.
> 
> Wine may work if there’s a Mac port.
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
>> 
>> what about whine?
>> 
>> On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Singing Sparrow" 
>>> <sunsh...@abe.midco.net>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 12:50 AM
>>> Subject: Running windows programs on the mac.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing 
>>>> windows?
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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Toldja.

Chris.

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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: Running windows programs on the mac.


An app called Wineskin is what I used to run an audio game on the Mac. Thing 
is, that game was self-voicing. I don't think there's a way to use Wine to 
emulate both your program *and* a screen reader, which is where the problem 
is. Sighted users can do this because they don't need a screen reader to be 
running at the same time, but if you need speech and the program in question 
isn't self-voicing, I don't think you can do it. Sorry.

On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:21, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:

strange but thought from what i was reading it was accessible? at least 
that is what i read on the program.


On 10/1/2015 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not accessible.  Trust me, I've tried, and it was a disaster.

Chris.

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To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: Running windows programs on the mac.



what about whine?

On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Singing Sparrow" 
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To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Running windows programs on the mac.


Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing 
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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK then, let  someone else chime in and correct me wrong.

Chris.

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Subject: Re: Running windows programs on the mac.


strange but thought from what i was reading it was accessible? at least 
that is what i read on the program.


On 10/1/2015 8:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not accessible.  Trust me, I've tried, and it was a disaster.

Chris.

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what about whine?

On 10/1/2015 6:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Not unless you want to do it in a virtual machine with VMWare Fusion.

Chris.

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Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing 
windows?


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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

WINE would be just the thing for audiogames, if anybody has figured out how to 
actually do it.  I’ve never got it to work.

There are tools such as WineBottler and WineSkin that can help you wrap Windows 
binaries plus dependencies inside an app package.  In theory they should work 
for such applications.  I’ve never got it to work, even though they don’t make 
any system-wide changes and are entirely self-contained.

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Running windows programs on the mac.

[Singing Sparrow]

Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing 
windows?


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Re: Running windows programs on the mac.

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

no. 
> On 01 Oct 2015, at 6:50 AM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> Is there anyway to run windows programs on the mac with out installing 
> windows?
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