Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-08 Thread David Griffith
I do not think you can. As far as I can see Open Office is useless if you  are 
usingLion. 

David Griffith 
On 6 Mar 2012, at 03:49, Becky Knaub wrote:

 For those of you who use Open, How do you get VO to tell you what you are 
 typing. It does it for all of my other apps but not this one. I hope there's 
 a way since I like the setup Open has. Is Libre more accessible?
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:
 
 You can get Libre Office through the following URL:
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
 
 
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 On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Thanks. I appreciate it. I am downloading Open Office now to give it a try.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:33 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 You can get open office from www.openoffice.org.  Libri-office can be 
 found by doing a google search for it as I do not have a site for it off 
 hand.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't 
 seem to find them.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should 
 handle ms word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo 
 doesn't handle tables very well though.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
 possible.
 Hope there are some help out here :-)
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-06 Thread David Hole
Thanks much for many answers.
I forgot to say that I'll use it on Lion.
And as my name-brother wrote earlier, OOO doesn't work with VO on
Lion, is that right?
Also, does Pages and Numbers support the newest additions of the
MSDocument-format, this docx and xlsx-files?
-David
Also, can I choose wich file format should be the default when saving
new files using iWork?
On 6 Mar, 04:49, Becky Knaub becnc...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 For those of you who use Open, How do you get VO to tell you what you are 
 typing. It does it for all of my other apps but not this one. I hope there's 
 a way since I like the setup Open has. Is Libre more accessible?
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:







  You can get Libre Office through the following URL:
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

  Ezzie Bueno
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  On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:

  Thanks. I appreciate it. I am downloading Open Office now to give it a try.

  Becky
  On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:33 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:

  You can get open office fromwww.openoffice.org.  Libri-office can be 
  found by doing a google search for it as I do not have a site for it off 
  hand.

  Matthew

  On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:

  Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't 
  seem to find them.

  Becky
  On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:

  Hi,

  I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should 
  handle ms word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo 
  doesn't handle tables very well though.  HTH.

  Matthew

  On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:

  Hi folks.
  Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
  those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
  Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
  and iWork?
  There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
  (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
  possible.
  Hope there are some help out here :-)
  Best regards David

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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-06 Thread Aser Tolentino
IWork apps will open new office files but they export the pre-2007 format.

Respectfully,
Aser Tolentino, Esq.

On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:07 AM, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks much for many answers.
 I forgot to say that I'll use it on Lion.
 And as my name-brother wrote earlier, OOO doesn't work with VO on
 Lion, is that right?
 Also, does Pages and Numbers support the newest additions of the
 MSDocument-format, this docx and xlsx-files?
 -David
 Also, can I choose wich file format should be the default when saving
 new files using iWork?
 On 6 Mar, 04:49, Becky Knaub becnc...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 For those of you who use Open, How do you get VO to tell you what you are 
 typing. It does it for all of my other apps but not this one. I hope there's 
 a way since I like the setup Open has. Is Libre more accessible?
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You can get Libre Office through the following URL:
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
 
 Ezzie Bueno
 Sent from my Macbook Pro
 ezziebu...@gmail.com
 (323) 448-0757
 
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 On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Thanks. I appreciate it. I am downloading Open Office now to give it a try.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:33 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 You can get open office fromwww.openoffice.org.  Libri-office can be 
 found by doing a google search for it as I do not have a site for it off 
 hand.
 
 Matthew
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't 
 seem to find them.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should 
 handle ms word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo 
 doesn't handle tables very well though.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
 possible.
 Hope there are some help out here :-)
 Best regards David
 
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-06 Thread Esther
Hello David,

To add to Aser's explanation, you cannot choose MS Document formats to be the 
default saving format type in iWorks, although you can export to these file 
types,  Pages and Numbers save in their own formats.  Yuma asked about batch 
converting from Pages to Word documents a year ago, and I posted an AppleScript 
solution that can do this.  You can find the description in the Mail Archive 
post:
• Re: word documents on macs?
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg43720.html

That post links to the AppleScripts on a MobileMe web page, so if you think you 
might use them I would download these before MobileMe web pages disappear in 
June, or before the owner decides to migrate to iCloud.  (The links still work.)

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 6, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Aser Tolentino wrote:

 IWork apps will open new office files but they export the pre-2007 format.
 
 Respectfully,
 Aser Tolentino, Esq.
 
 On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:07 AM, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks much for many answers.
 I forgot to say that I'll use it on Lion.
 And as my name-brother wrote earlier, OOO doesn't work with VO on
 Lion, is that right?
 Also, does Pages and Numbers support the newest additions of the
 MSDocument-format, this docx and xlsx-files?
 -David
 Also, can I choose wich file format should be the default when saving
 new files using iWork?
 On 6 Mar, 04:49, Becky Knaub becnc...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 For those of you who use Open, How do you get VO to tell you what you are 
 typing. It does it for all of my other apps but not this one. I hope 
 there's a way since I like the setup Open has. Is Libre more accessible?
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You can get Libre Office through the following URL:
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
 
 Ezzie Bueno
 Sent from my Macbook Pro
 ezziebu...@gmail.com
 (323) 448-0757
 
 Check out daily jokes and more!
 
 www.SillyEz.com
 Facebook:http://facebook.com/SillyEz
 Twitter:http://twitter.com/SillyEz
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Thanks. I appreciate it. I am downloading Open Office now to give it a 
 try.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:33 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 You can get open office fromwww.openoffice.org.  Libri-office can be 
 found by doing a google search for it as I do not have a site for it off 
 hand.
 
 Matthew
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't 
 seem to find them.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should 
 handle ms word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo 
 doesn't handle tables very well though.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
 possible.
 Hope there are some help out here :-)
 Best regards David
 
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The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread Deamon David
Hi folks.
Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
and iWork?
There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
(2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
possible.
Hope there are some help out here :-)
Best regards David

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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread David Griffith
I personally have found Open Office completely unusable under Lion. I 
understand that there used to be some accessibility under Snow Leopard but 
under Lion I cannot get any typing echo at all.

If it is wordProcessing you are after I would stick to Text Edit perhaps 
supplemented by the Free Bean Word Processor.

I have bought Nisus Writer Pro and Pages but I must confess that I do not use 
them much, especially Pages which is a whole learning curve I have to get into. 
Unfortunately I do not currently have the time.
If you are after a spreadsheet i understand Tables is a more intuitive 
spreadsheet than Numbers. I have not really investigated this yet as I am still 
using Excel under Fusion.
I have heard Bento is an accessible database.

David Griffith.
  5 Mar 2012, at 15:36, Deamon David wrote:

 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
 possible.
 Hope there are some help out here :-)
 Best regards David
 
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread matthew Dyer
 Hi,

I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should handle ms 
word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo doesn't handle 
tables very well though.  HTH.

Matthew


On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:

 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
 possible.
 Hope there are some help out here :-)
 Best regards David
 
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread Becky Knaub
Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't seem to 
find them.

Becky
On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should handle ms 
 word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo doesn't handle 
 tables very well though.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
 possible.
 Hope there are some help out here :-)
 Best regards David
 
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi David. 
I am running my business just fine with Pages and Numbers. True, I ended up 
telling one of my customers that due to a computer thing she didn't want to 
hear more about, I couldn't do tables. I had this option available to me which 
some people don't. I am learning, thanks to Anne, some new things with Numbers 
which i wish I had been smarter about before. I just did the test to find out 
the location in a cell in Numbers, and it works great. 

I have no need for the fancy things like footnotes, so I can do ok with 
TextEdit most The time. As far as I can see, Pages works fine with Word files, 
as g as you don't need tables. I will say that I had a little problem setting 
up a template in Pages for envelopes, and this may be that I don't know what 
I'm doing. However, my sighted husband put in a filler so I could find the 
place to put in the address. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Mar 5, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:

 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
 possible.
 Hope there are some help out here :-)
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread matthew Dyer
You can get open office from www.openoffice.org.  Libri-office can be found by 
doing a google search for it as I do not have a site for it off hand.

Matthew


On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:

 Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't seem to 
 find them.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should handle 
 ms word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo doesn't 
 handle tables very well though.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
 possible.
 Hope there are some help out here :-)
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread CJ Daniel
David,

I'm curious.  Have you tried Mesus Writer Pro @ all?  I've been considering it, 
but was wondering about accessibility, before I purchase the application.  Any 
comments about this software would be appreciated.

CJ


On Mar 5, 2012, at 9:07 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 I personally have found Open Office completely unusable under Lion. I 
 understand that there used to be some accessibility under Snow Leopard but 
 under Lion I cannot get any typing echo at all.
 
 If it is wordProcessing you are after I would stick to Text Edit perhaps 
 supplemented by the Free Bean Word Processor.
 
 I have bought Nisus Writer Pro and Pages but I must confess that I do not use 
 them much, especially Pages which is a whole learning curve I have to get 
 into. Unfortunately I do not currently have the time.
 If you are after a spreadsheet i understand Tables is a more intuitive 
 spreadsheet than Numbers. I have not really investigated this yet as I am 
 still using Excel under Fusion.
 I have heard Bento is an accessible database.
 
 David Griffith.
  5 Mar 2012, at 15:36, Deamon David wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
 possible.
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread Becky Knaub
Thanks. I appreciate it. I am downloading Open Office now to give it a try.

Becky
On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:33 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:

 You can get open office from www.openoffice.org.  Libri-office can be found 
 by doing a google search for it as I do not have a site for it off hand.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't seem 
 to find them.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should handle 
 ms word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo doesn't 
 handle tables very well though.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread Ezzie Bueno
You can get Libre Office through the following URL:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/


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On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:

 Thanks. I appreciate it. I am downloading Open Office now to give it a try.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:33 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 You can get open office from www.openoffice.org.  Libri-office can be found 
 by doing a google search for it as I do not have a site for it off hand.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't seem 
 to find them.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should handle 
 ms word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo doesn't 
 handle tables very well though.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
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Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office

2012-03-05 Thread Becky Knaub
For those of you who use Open, How do you get VO to tell you what you are 
typing. It does it for all of my other apps but not this one. I hope there's a 
way since I like the setup Open has. Is Libre more accessible?
On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote:

 You can get Libre Office through the following URL:
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
 
 
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 On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Thanks. I appreciate it. I am downloading Open Office now to give it a try.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:33 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 You can get open office from www.openoffice.org.  Libri-office can be found 
 by doing a google search for it as I do not have a site for it off hand.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't seem 
 to find them.
 
 Becky
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should 
 handle ms word files  with no problems.  The only dall back is that vo 
 doesn't handle tables very well though.  HTH.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask
 those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac?
 Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice
 and iWork?
 There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and
 (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as
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