Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

2020-08-24 Thread Kliph Senior
Yes, we have about 6 or 7 Braille display users in the group.

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Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
tester, please don’t join the group.

> On Aug 24, 2020, at 6:29 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I hope people are testing the Braille displays with the new software as it’s 
> about time Braille for OS was improved.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 24 Aug 2020, at 01:40, Kliph Senior > <mailto:kliph.sen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am the owner of that list, and here is the info you need
>> 
>> 
>> Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  
>> Then come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash 
>> these bugs together, and report them to apple. Subscribe here
>> public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io 
>> <mailto:public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io>
>> Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
>> tester, please don’t join the group.
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Maurice,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i could 
>>> subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>>> On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines >>> <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users 
>>>> list. On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while 
>>>> testing for accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that 
>>>> testing. Please note however that if you got something that really is 
>>>> serious go to beta.apple.com <http://beta.apple.com/> and report it there 
>>>> it has been my experience that the beta feedback form that is included 
>>>> with each kind of beta software, is not very accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Maurice Mines.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by means 
>>>> of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the above text, 
>>>> which is the email. If there's something that you don't understand, please 
>>>> write me and ask me what my original intent was? I will make every effort 
>>>> to try to clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from the above 
>>>> written text. Thank you very much for reading this.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
>>>> Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org <mailto:boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org> 
>>>> Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/> Live the 
>>>> life you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind Division, a 
>>>> proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of 
>>>> members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's 
>>>> blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they 
>>>> want.
>>>> 
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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

2020-08-24 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
Hi.

I hope people are testing the Braille displays with the new software as it’s 
about time Braille for OS was improved.

Kawal.

> On 24 Aug 2020, at 01:40, Kliph Senior  wrote:
> 
> I am the owner of that list, and here is the info you need
> 
> 
> Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  
> Then come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash 
> these bugs together, and report them to apple. Subscribe here
> public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io 
> <mailto:public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io>
> Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
> tester, please don’t join the group.
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Maurice,
>> 
>> Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i could 
>> subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines >> <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users list. 
>>> On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while testing for 
>>> accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that testing. Please 
>>> note however that if you got something that really is serious go to 
>>> beta.apple.com <http://beta.apple.com/> and report it there it has been my 
>>> experience that the beta feedback form that is included with each kind of 
>>> beta software, is not very accessible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maurice Mines.
>>> 
>>> Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by means 
>>> of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the above text, 
>>> which is the email. If there's something that you don't understand, please 
>>> write me and ask me what my original intent was? I will make every effort 
>>> to try to clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from the above 
>>> written text. Thank you very much for reading this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
>>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
>>> Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org <mailto:boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org> 
>>> Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/> Live the 
>>> life you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind Division, a 
>>> proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of 
>>> members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's 
>>> blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they 
>>> want.
>>> 
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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

2020-08-23 Thread maurice mines
good evening, here's all the information regarding the public beta users 
list please remember everyone you please subscribe to this list this 
does not necessarily replace giving feedback back to Apple via the B 
backup or more importantly to beta.apple.com. Also remember that it's 
probably not a good idea to discuss any of this on this list meeting and 
posting the information on the list here, that's where any discussion of 
data related things belongs. I'm sure the Edmonds would appreciate not 
having things that are potentially breaking the nondisclosure agreement 
not on the list here so all of that being said, here it is.




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sincerely Maurice Mines.

Please note that the text above excluding the copy of the information on 
the group, has been dictated to the computer. By means of dictation 
software. If there's something in my comments excluding what I mentioned 
above that you don't understand, please write me and ask me what my 
original intent was. I will make every effort to clear up any 
misunderstandings that the text above that I prefer to may have caused 
thank you very much for reading this. PS please also note that this is 
being dictated on a Windows machine because Nuance the maker of the 
dictation software no longer makes an OS X version of the dictation 
software so that's I'm having to use Windows in terms of the dictation 
software because of the lack of availability of an OS X version of the 
software.


On 8/23/2020 1:20 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hello Maurice,

Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i 
could subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?


Andrew
On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:


good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users 
list. On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while 
testing for accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of 
that testing. Please note however that if you got something that 
really is serious go to beta.apple.com <http://beta.apple.com> and 
report it there it has been my experience that the beta feedback form 
that is included with each kind of beta software, is not very accessible.



Maurice Mines.

Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by 
means of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the 
above text, which is the email. If there's something that you don't 
understand, please write me and ask me what my original intent was? I 
will make every effort to try to clear up any misunderstandings that 
may arise from the above written text. Thank you very much for 
reading this.




On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?

Andrew


--
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www.nfbdeaf-blind.org Live the life you want. The National Federation 
of the Blind Deafblind Division, a proud division of the National 
Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and friends who 
believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we 
work together to help blind people live the lives they want.


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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

2020-08-23 Thread Kliph Senior
I am the owner of that list, and here is the info you need


Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  Then 
come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash these 
bugs together, and report them to apple. Subscribe here
public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io
Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
tester, please don’t join the group.

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Maurice,
> 
> Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i could 
> subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?
> 
> Andrew
>> On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines > <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users list. 
>> On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while testing for 
>> accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that testing. Please 
>> note however that if you got something that really is serious go to 
>> beta.apple.com <http://beta.apple.com/> and report it there it has been my 
>> experience that the beta feedback form that is included with each kind of 
>> beta software, is not very   accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Maurice Mines.
>> 
>> Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by means 
>> of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the above text, 
>> which is the email. If there's something that you don't understand, please 
>> write me and ask me what my original intent was? I will make every effort to 
>> try to clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from the above written 
>> text. Thank you very much for reading this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>> -- 
>> Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
>> Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org <mailto:boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org> 
>> Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/>
>> Live the life you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
>> Division, a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a 
>> community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the 
>> nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the 
>> lives they want.
>> 
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>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>
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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

2020-08-23 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hello Maurice,

Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i could 
subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?

Andrew
> On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users list. 
> On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while testing for 
> accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that testing. Please 
> note however that if you got something that really is serious go to 
> beta.apple.com and report it there it has been my experience that the beta 
> feedback form that is included with each kind of beta software, is not very 
> accessible.
> 
> 
> Maurice Mines.
> 
> Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by means of 
> dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the above text, which 
> is the email. If there's something that you don't understand, please write me 
> and ask me what my original intent was? I will make every effort to try to 
> clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from the above written text. 
> Thank you very much for reading this.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
> -- 
> Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
> Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org <mailto:boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org> 
> Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/> Live the life 
> you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind Division, a proud 
> division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members 
> and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every 
> day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> 
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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

2020-08-23 Thread maurice mines
good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users 
list. On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while 
testing for accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that 
testing. Please note however that if you got something that really is 
serious go to beta.apple.com and report it there it has been my 
experience that the beta feedback form that is included with each kind 
of beta software, is not very accessible.



Maurice Mines.

Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by 
means of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the 
above text, which is the email. If there's something that you don't 
understand, please write me and ask me what my original intent was? I 
will make every effort to try to clear up any misunderstandings that may 
arise from the above written text. Thank you very much for reading this.




On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?

Andrew


--
Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org 
Live the life you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
Division, a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a 
community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of 
the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live 
the lives they want.


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Voiceover beta testers discussion group

2020-08-23 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?

Andrew

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