RE: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott,

Just simply less stress with bootcamp than in a vm either virtual box or vm 
fusion.

I do use virtual box for our machiens at work only because it’s a free vm 
system, some of my colleagues use parallels as a preference but they are 
sighted so don’t have the issues of voiceover with parallels to deal with.
It’s a shame parallels isn’t accessible as it appears to be the best of the 3 
vm tools. At least for the sighted.

I find to many things get screwed up with vms around my work place, people 
changing settings or profiles or group policies  therefore I just desided to 
setup bootcamp and keep away from the vm side of things to avoid other peoples 
screw ups.

But more I have better control of my bootcamp than my vm.

However in saying that I have a windows 10 machine at work that I have 3 vm
S on for different uses,
 This allows me to access systems that are more restricted and don’t have to be 
running constantly.

Hope that makes sence.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 3:17 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling 
Mac users: Please read

Simon, what attracts you to the boot camp solution?  I’m interested you seem to 
prefer this.  I am a VM fan but wonder what advantages you’re finding running 
windows separately.  I would have thought having both available at the same 
time would be preferable.  Give me your take on things, very interested.

Thank you

On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Arnold,

I work with both windows and mac systems / machines,

I do a lot of work both at home and work with active directory and exchange 
servers so I prefer to use windows for exchange and windows active directory 
admin tools for AD. The AD tools is not something that at this point can be 
done from a mac or at least that we have found.

I also find that speed for me in windows is  still greater due to years more of 
use so I still fall back to that for comfort.


I play more of my media on the mac as it’s better setup for media both playing 
and production.
But being able to have both systems in one machine is an excellent choice, I 
can flick between OS’s within 20 seconds

But mainly it’s comfort and a lack of knowledge and then the power tools that 
make me use the windows machine.
Hope that helps

Cheers,


Simon f


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Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:33 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac 
users: Please read

Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you 
might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now ordered 
my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things simply work better 
in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the user simply does not 
know how to do something well when they say something doesn't work as well, so 
I am more interested in the answer from the more experienced users.  I know, 
for example, that Openbook will not be available to me on the Mac, I don't know 
how well DocuScan, from System Access works, and it sounds as if scanning and 
reading, by importing everything into a word processing app is about more 
trouble than it is worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB reader on my iPhone.  
But what else does windows do better?  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Scott Granados]

Simon, what attracts you to the boot camp solution?  I’m interested you seem to 
prefer this.  I am a VM fan but wonder what advantages you’re finding running 
windows separately.  I would have thought having both available at the same 
time would be preferable.  Give me your take on things, very interested.

Thank you

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Arnold,
>  
> I work with both windows and mac systems / machines,
>  
> I do a lot of work both at home and work with active directory and exchange 
> servers so I prefer to use windows for exchange and windows active directory 
> admin tools for AD. The AD tools is not something that at this point can be 
> done from a mac or at least that we have found.
>  
> I also find that speed for me in windows is  still greater due to years more 
> of use so I still fall back to that for comfort.
>  
>  
> I play more of my media on the mac as it’s better setup for media both 
> playing and production.
> But being able to have both systems in one machine is an excellent choice, I 
> can flick between OS’s within 20 seconds
>  
> But mainly it’s comfort and a lack of knowledge and then the power tools that 
> make me use the windows machine.
> Hope that helps
>  
> Cheers,
>  
>  
> Simon f
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:33 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling 
> Mac users: Please read
>  
> Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you 
> might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now 
> ordered my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things simply 
> work better in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the user 
> simply does not know how to do something well when they say something doesn't 
> work as well, so I am more interested in the answer from the more experienced 
> users.  I know, for example, that Openbook will not be available to me on the 
> Mac, I don't know how well DocuScan, from System Access works, and it sounds 
> as if scanning and reading, by importing everything into a word processing 
> app is about more trouble than it is worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB 
> reader on my iPhone.  But what else does windows do better?  Thanks for any 
> opinions.
>  
> Arnold Schmidt
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Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Hi.
First to Tim and others, eloquence is faster than fred, no matter how
you slides it. If you need to read long documents. that is the way to
go, but as other says, each to their own, but at least with some of
the documents i read right now , eloquence does a good job of it,
where fred is more weird sounding.
If you are in a study group, or under education, you use what the rest
of the school uses. Im lucky though i can enter the medical data from
my mac into our system, so that is a good thing.
Scot I'm not totally blind, and i have made some special apps for my
iPhone so i can see different things with them, when i interact with
the patients.
I was abused as a girl-child, was taken away to live with my sister
who is a psychiatrist, in my mind there has never been a doubt what i
wanted to be.
Last but not least i will once again say this, if you have a mac, and
need help, speak up, i may not say much , but i can find documents
really fast so all you have to do is read it your self,


Sandi

On 7/9/16, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> Hi Arnold,
>
> I work with both windows and mac systems / machines,
>
> I do a lot of work both at home and work with active directory and exchange
> servers so I prefer to use windows for exchange and windows active directory
> admin tools for AD. The AD tools is not something that at this point can be
> done from a mac or at least that we have found.
>
> I also find that speed for me in windows is  still greater due to years more
> of use so I still fall back to that for comfort.
>
>
> I play more of my media on the mac as it’s better setup for media both
> playing and production.
> But being able to have both systems in one machine is an excellent choice, I
> can flick between OS’s within 20 seconds
>
> But mainly it’s comfort and a lack of knowledge and then the power tools
> that make me use the windows machine.
> Hope that helps
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Simon f
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:33 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling
> Mac users: Please read
>
> Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you
> might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now
> ordered my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things simply
> work better in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the user
> simply does not know how to do something well when they say something
> doesn't work as well, so I am more interested in the answer from the more
> experienced users.  I know, for example, that Openbook will not be available
> to me on the Mac, I don't know how well DocuScan, from System Access works,
> and it sounds as if scanning and reading, by importing everything into a
> word processing app is about more trouble than it is worth.  No problem, I
> will use KNFB reader on my iPhone.  But what else does windows do better?
> Thanks for any opinions.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
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RE: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Arnold,

I work with both windows and mac systems / machines,

I do a lot of work both at home and work with active directory and exchange 
servers so I prefer to use windows for exchange and windows active directory 
admin tools for AD. The AD tools is not something that at this point can be 
done from a mac or at least that we have found.

I also find that speed for me in windows is  still greater due to years more of 
use so I still fall back to that for comfort.


I play more of my media on the mac as it’s better setup for media both playing 
and production.
But being able to have both systems in one machine is an excellent choice, I 
can flick between OS’s within 20 seconds

But mainly it’s comfort and a lack of knowledge and then the power tools that 
make me use the windows machine.
Hope that helps

Cheers,


Simon f


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:33 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac 
users: Please read

Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you 
might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now ordered 
my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things simply work better 
in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the user simply does not 
know how to do something well when they say something doesn't work as well, so 
I am more interested in the answer from the more experienced users.  I know, 
for example, that Openbook will not be available to me on the Mac, I don't know 
how well DocuScan, from System Access works, and it sounds as if scanning and 
reading, by importing everything into a word processing app is about more 
trouble than it is worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB reader on my iPhone.  
But what else does windows do better?  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Scott Granados]

Arnold, to let you know from my angle I started out as a windows user on the PC 
side and in about 2008 migrated to the Mac.  For me I’ve been able to move all 
my functions away from windows.  Most things I hear that people have issue with 
are OCR reading or other very specialized adaptive software like braille 
translation.  Also I know some industries like Insurance have mainly windows 
based tools.  So professionally you may not have a choice.  I just passed on a 
job that required the use of windows by the end user.  I have no desire to 
fight the virtual desktop battle just to do something I can do better and 
faster for my needs anyway with a Mac. So that’s the long way of saying I bet 
you could switch over entirely especially if you’re already to think laterally 
when you hit an issue like your example of using a KNFB reader.  Also remember 
if you do have the desire to run windows you can do so on your Mac with VM 
Fusion while OS X is running or using bootcamp you could boot in to windows if 
you needed to.  The fusion method is the one I find most preferable.  So lucky 
for you with a good Mac you have the best of both worlds available in one box.

Good luck.


> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you 
> might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now 
> ordered my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things simply 
> work better in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the user 
> simply does not know how to do something well when they say something doesn't 
> work as well, so I am more interested in the answer from the more experienced 
> users.  I know, for example, that Openbook will not be available to me on the 
> Mac, I don't know how well DocuScan, from System Access works, and it sounds 
> as if scanning and reading, by importing everything into a word processing 
> app is about more trouble than it is worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB 
> reader on my iPhone.  But what else does windows do better?  Thanks for any 
> opinions.
>  
> Arnold Schmidt
>  
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Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Scott Granados]

Eloquence is all about speed.  It may be highly mechanical but it’s easy to 
pick out with the speed accelerated.  Also doesn’t lag in spots as much as the 
more natural sounding voices constructed from samples.  That’s the big 
difference for me.


> On Jul 9, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't use Windows much at all.  Probably once a month or so for Server 
> stuff, and that's it.  Not sure why people love Eloquence so much either.  
> I've heard others praise its glories, but I've never found it pleasant 
> myself.  I guess to each their own.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 11:52, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> Hi, am not sure if i am experienced or not, but I'm an RN, so well i
> know a thing or two.
> I use the mac for anything, and windows for scanning and well a few
> games like lone woolf.
> That is about it , and i will admit it , if i need to read fast
> nothing beats eloquence. And i mean like nothing.
> Now that you get a new mac, let us know if you need any help. there
> gotta be documents we can toss at you for getting you started :)
> 
> On 7/9/16, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> For me, the things I tend to use windows for are some games, and sometimes,
>> kurzweil 1000.  I have to say, though, that I am not using k1000 hardly at
>> all these days, and really don’t miss it that much.  I am considering taking
>> the vm off my laptop, and I don’t have it on my desktop at all anymore.
>> 
>> For scanning, I use either docuscan(great for pdf’s), and/or abby fine
>> reader.
>> 
>> hth,
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you
>>> might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now
>>> ordered my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things
>>> simply work better in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the
>>> user simply does not know how to do something well when they say something
>>> doesn't work as well, so I am more interested in the answer from the more
>>> experienced users.  I know, for example, that Openbook will not be
>>> available to me on the Mac, I don't know how well DocuScan, from System
>>> Access works, and it sounds as if scanning and reading, by importing
>>> everything into a word processing app is about more trouble than it is
>>> worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB reader on my iPhone.  But what else
>>> does windows do better?  Thanks for any opinions.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
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Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Scott Granados]

Pardon the off topic but a blind RN, that’s pretty cool!  I don’t know why of 
anyone it shouldn’t but there are some jobs that I hear of blind people doing 
that surprise me.  RN is one but I mean that in a supportive good way I’m not 
sure how you do it but I’m glad you figured a way. A blind furniture maker was 
another one that surprised the heck out of me, engine rebuilder was another but 
I sort of get that having worked on cars myself.

Thank you for sharing what profession you’re in you’ve expanded my horizons a 
little.


Sorry for the topic distraction it just impressed me.

> On Jul 9, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> Hi, am not sure if i am experienced or not, but I'm an RN, so well i
> know a thing or two.
> I use the mac for anything, and windows for scanning and well a few
> games like lone woolf.
> That is about it , and i will admit it , if i need to read fast
> nothing beats eloquence. And i mean like nothing.
> Now that you get a new mac, let us know if you need any help. there
> gotta be documents we can toss at you for getting you started :)
> 
> On 7/9/16, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> For me, the things I tend to use windows for are some games, and sometimes,
>> kurzweil 1000.  I have to say, though, that I am not using k1000 hardly at
>> all these days, and really don’t miss it that much.  I am considering taking
>> the vm off my laptop, and I don’t have it on my desktop at all anymore.
>> 
>> For scanning, I use either docuscan(great for pdf’s), and/or abby fine
>> reader.
>> 
>> hth,
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you
>>> might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now
>>> ordered my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things
>>> simply work better in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the
>>> user simply does not know how to do something well when they say something
>>> doesn't work as well, so I am more interested in the answer from the more
>>> experienced users.  I know, for example, that Openbook will not be
>>> available to me on the Mac, I don't know how well DocuScan, from System
>>> Access works, and it sounds as if scanning and reading, by importing
>>> everything into a word processing app is about more trouble than it is
>>> worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB reader on my iPhone.  But what else
>>> does windows do better?  Thanks for any opinions.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
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Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I don't use Windows much at all.  Probably once a month or so for Server stuff, 
and that's it.  Not sure why people love Eloquence so much either.  I've heard 
others praise its glories, but I've never found it pleasant myself.  I guess to 
each their own.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 9, 2016, at 11:52, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:

Hi, am not sure if i am experienced or not, but I'm an RN, so well i
know a thing or two.
I use the mac for anything, and windows for scanning and well a few
games like lone woolf.
That is about it , and i will admit it , if i need to read fast
nothing beats eloquence. And i mean like nothing.
Now that you get a new mac, let us know if you need any help. there
gotta be documents we can toss at you for getting you started :)

On 7/9/16, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> Hi,
> For me, the things I tend to use windows for are some games, and sometimes,
> kurzweil 1000.  I have to say, though, that I am not using k1000 hardly at
> all these days, and really don’t miss it that much.  I am considering taking
> the vm off my laptop, and I don’t have it on my desktop at all anymore.
> 
> For scanning, I use either docuscan(great for pdf’s), and/or abby fine
> reader.
> 
> hth,
> Caitlyn
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you
>> might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now
>> ordered my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things
>> simply work better in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the
>> user simply does not know how to do something well when they say something
>> doesn't work as well, so I am more interested in the answer from the more
>> experienced users.  I know, for example, that Openbook will not be
>> available to me on the Mac, I don't know how well DocuScan, from System
>> Access works, and it sounds as if scanning and reading, by importing
>> everything into a word processing app is about more trouble than it is
>> worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB reader on my iPhone.  But what else
>> does windows do better?  Thanks for any opinions.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
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Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Hi, am not sure if i am experienced or not, but I'm an RN, so well i
know a thing or two.
I use the mac for anything, and windows for scanning and well a few
games like lone woolf.
That is about it , and i will admit it , if i need to read fast
nothing beats eloquence. And i mean like nothing.
Now that you get a new mac, let us know if you need any help. there
gotta be documents we can toss at you for getting you started :)

On 7/9/16, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> Hi,
> For me, the things I tend to use windows for are some games, and sometimes,
> kurzweil 1000.  I have to say, though, that I am not using k1000 hardly at
> all these days, and really don’t miss it that much.  I am considering taking
> the vm off my laptop, and I don’t have it on my desktop at all anymore.
>
> For scanning, I use either docuscan(great for pdf’s), and/or abby fine
> reader.
>
> hth,
> Caitlyn
>
>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you
>> might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now
>> ordered my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things
>> simply work better in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the
>> user simply does not know how to do something well when they say something
>> doesn't work as well, so I am more interested in the answer from the more
>> experienced users.  I know, for example, that Openbook will not be
>> available to me on the Mac, I don't know how well DocuScan, from System
>> Access works, and it sounds as if scanning and reading, by importing
>> everything into a word processing app is about more trouble than it is
>> worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB reader on my iPhone.  But what else
>> does windows do better?  Thanks for any opinions.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
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Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
For me, the things I tend to use windows for are some games, and sometimes, 
kurzweil 1000.  I have to say, though, that I am not using k1000 hardly at all 
these days, and really don’t miss it that much.  I am considering taking the vm 
off my laptop, and I don’t have it on my desktop at all anymore.

For scanning, I use either docuscan(great for pdf’s), and/or abby fine reader.

hth,
Caitlyn

> On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you 
> might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now 
> ordered my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things simply 
> work better in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the user 
> simply does not know how to do something well when they say something doesn't 
> work as well, so I am more interested in the answer from the more experienced 
> users.  I know, for example, that Openbook will not be available to me on the 
> Mac, I don't know how well DocuScan, from System Access works, and it sounds 
> as if scanning and reading, by importing everything into a word processing 
> app is about more trouble than it is worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB 
> reader on my iPhone.  But what else does windows do better?  Thanks for any 
> opinions.
>  
> Arnold Schmidt
>  
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Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Arnold Schmidt]

Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you 
might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now ordered 
my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things simply work better 
in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the user simply does not 
know how to do something well when they say something doesn't work as well, so 
I am more interested in the answer from the more experienced users.  I know, 
for example, that Openbook will not be available to me on the Mac, I don't know 
how well DocuScan, from System Access works, and it sounds as if scanning and 
reading, by importing everything into a word processing app is about more 
trouble than it is worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB reader on my iPhone.  
But what else does windows do better?  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

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